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How is this legal? A pseudo military force policing international waters, why can't the Japanese navy just sink them?
>>27557341
>>27557341
>How is this legal? A pseudo military force policing international waters, why can't the Japanese navy just sink them?
It's not legal but Sea Shepherd don't care because they're no cucks.
The Nips COULD sink them but they since they're a nation of cuckolds they lack the ballls.
>>27557483
This it's not at all legal, I wish someone would step up, regardless how you feel about these people it's a dangerous setting to allow them, next you know if I hated BMW's and had a billion dollars could just start smashing containers.
>>27557349
>dat dazzle camouflage
at least they have good taste!
Perhaps France should get back into the business of sinking hippie ships
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_the_Rainbow_Warrior
>>27557483
Sea Cucks sink themselves and then blame the japs and ask for more shekels
>>27557341
They believe in something enough to take up arms over it. I may not agree with them but I do envy them.
>>27557722
This. They also highjack tankers that are heading out to refuel whaling ships.
>>27557341
>Legal
Hell no, they've been port jumping every few months because countries refuse to let them flag from their ports.
>Why can't they just sink them?
Because Nat Geo or who-the-fuck-ever on TV runs around with cameras with them and makes prime time episodes out of it, it would be a colossal PR disaster.
>Pseudo Mil
Organized, yes, not anywhere resembling a real force though. They have water cannons and ramming prows, no firearms or incendiaries. Another reason nobody has shot them yet.
Sea Hippies. Harmless, attention-seeking idealists.
I don't mind it, Japan is dirty as fuck when it comes to the IWC, it only makes sense to have something happen back to them.
If we could get a ship together for /k/ and manage not to invade sealand or anything small countries along the way we could capture their ship and have twice the ship.
The captcha gods have spoken.
>>27557808
I remember back in the mid-00s there was talk of forming a naval PMC for just this thing.
But unless you can scrape up the dosh for one of two former south african missile corvettes that were decommed in the US, and then for electronics, ammo, weapons, and a BOFORS, you aren't gonna do shit.
Because the have amerifats on their crew. You arrest an amerifat, it's a great big deal.
>>27557709
Everyone makes fun of us now because we were the only one to get caught doing a pseudo terrorist attack in NZ. Nevermore.
Fuck the japanese. I wouldn't care if Sea Sheperds would start shooting at them, they deserve worse for what they're doing.
Keel Laid for Sea Shepherd’s ‘Dream Ship’ at Damen - October 13, 2015
>The keel has been laid for the new flagship of the controversial marine wildlife conservation organization, Sea Shepherd Conservation Society, at Damen Shipyards Antalya in Turkey.
>Sea Shepherd touts the vessel as their “dream ship”, capable of achieving speeds that “far exceed” any of the vessels in the organization’s fleet.
>Sea Shepherd ordered the new ship earlier this year after winning 8.3 million euros in the postcode lotteries in the Netherlands. The vessel appears to be a modified Damen Fast Crew Supplier, a line of purpose-built vessels from Damen Group featuring the innovative Sea Axe hull form and known for their seakeeping and fuel efficiency.
>>27557989
>Sea Shepherd
Doing shit /k/ always wants to but never achieves to do.
>>27557890
>Japs deserve to die for hunting whales
Sea hippie detected
>>27557890
what's the big deal with whaling?
They're basically sea cattle, dumb huge beasts.
Crows are the most intelligent animals on this planet, and we have no problem shooting them.
>>27558012
i really don't understand the logic behide this Sea Shepherd, it is not most whale will go extinct, some of them are huntable
people need job, you know
>>27558024
>They're basically sea cattle, dumb huge beasts
You couldn't be more wrong. You've either never been around cows or cetaceans or both.
>>27557989
>Sea Axe hull
a) Longer, wider turns.
b) Absolutely does not go into shallow water.
c) Needs a big rudder to handle properly in high seas.
>>27557341
I personally think we should sink the illegal whaling nip boats. The Sea Shepherd would be acceptable collateral damage.
>>27558024
This i have no problem with hunting or whaling of any kind as long as the population is kept in check
>>27558041
it is also not a ice breaker
why didn't they buy a Russian nuclear ice breaker?
what if we pose as a whaling ship and if they try to board us we simply slaughter them in protection because we thought they were pirates
>>27557808
i like this idea
>>27558065
>Russian nuclear anything
DEATHTRAP
>>27557989
>purchase ship to operate near arctic circle
>No ice breaking rating
Idiots
>>27557808
Honestly, the jap gov would be happy, they no longer have to worry about these idiots and have plausible deniability
>>27558070
Do they attempt to board ships? I thought they just do annoying things and attempt to get rammed.
Hijacking when?
Mobile pirate radio station when?
>>27558085
this meme need to die
we all know that a Typhoon could make a perfect /k/ompound
shit even have a shooting range
>>27558039
i grew up on a farm with cows, and there were whales in the fjord outside my house all the time. I've been enough around both.
Really, the ethics of whaling all depends on what kind of whales you hunt. Blue whale is a big no, since they're threatened by extinction, minke whales are a whole other deal, since there's shitloads of them.
Sure, whales have some sort of intelligence, and can be empathic towards each other. But pigs are also smart as fuck, we eat them. Crows are smart as fuck, and we kill them.
Whales are not some super special unicorn that deserves more protection than other animals. If they're not threatened, kill them, if they're threatened, don't kill them.
Only reason i don't eat whale, is because it simply doesn't taste all that good.
>>27558095
They arrested a couple people that boarded a ship.
They also throw stink bombs onto ships.
I'm fairly certain that ramming, boarding, and chemical weapons are all offenses that would allow one to take defensive actions.
>>27558125
It's not a meme when it's true.
Whats the legality of operating a private submarine if its even possible without being hunted down by Ruskies and US Navy?
>>27558125
No thanks, I would prefer not dying from lung poisoning.
>>27557890
Faaaaaaggggooooootttttt!
>>27558131
Didnt their commander aim to get shot by the japs but was proven to be lying?
>>27558136
it is also true that American nuclear sub are as shit as Russian nuclear sub
Typhoon is less shit because it is have swimming pool and stuff
>>27557341
Fucking eco terrorists.
Japan is getting less passive. Maybe the spirit of the Samurai will once again posses them all, and next thing we'll see is all those faggots being boarded by Japs in full Samurai regalia...or just using helicopters with missiles made to look like Hello Kitty.
>>27557529
That isnt at all a good comparison.
I don't get why you guys don't like them. They're harmless and mess with the japedophiles. No important offense done to you.
Well legality had nothing to do with any of this since international water has no laws. The Japanese could sink the ship with zero repercussions.
They have a right to defend their ships but the families of the victims all have the right to sue. But the gov of Japan has the right to not pay. A country and a person can do whatever it wants in international waters.
>>27558167
>American nuclear sub are as shit
Better sonar
Quieter
Far better safety record
More of them
USA has SOSUS, Russia does not
And that's just scratching the surface.
>>27557831
Well. We could get enough money to get a seafaring vessel and a Japanese whaling company to say "HOKY ROUND EYE", we could do it.
I have about $600 dollars to my name. I'm willing to invest about tree fiddy. Where do I sign up?
Is there any bounties on these activist they probarly pissed of every nation with acceses to the sea?
>>27557341
Fuck Japan.
Japan needs to understand they're just USA's immovable aircraft carrier.
>>27557341
Anything is legal if you can fight off the people trying to arrest you. Escecially in international waters.
>>27557341
If Japan wasn't a No-Guns country, they'd probably shoot back.
>>27558024
Because of endangered whale species being a target to the jap whale industry either on purpose or inadvertently. It's no surprise that they'd be affected.
>>27558206
A whale murdered my parents and ate my dog then it occuoied and chased me out of my house wich been in our family for generations.
>>27558226
send it to my paypal. i swear this is legit
>>27558217
Russian sub have worse record track cause they was run by drunk slav
>>27557341
In reality i give 0 fucks about whales dying, but after watching a few episodes of the first season, and doing reading, im sick of the jap whalers just on principle.
they talk like a meathhead when you bust them shooting meth into their own arm, they still deny deny deny, and get mad at you for attacking their character, shit pisses me off
>>27558287
Nah man. I have gun-...I mean kids to feed.
>>27558290
Also they were designed like shit.
Varnes is hooking us up with a boat. Let's steal sea shepherds boats. /k/navy is best navy.
>>27558062
That's the problem. They aren't keeping the populations stable, they're hunting indiscriminately.
>>27558213
>country and a person can do whatever it wants in international waters.
Isc this true? Can I Rob yachts and then go home and not worry about being charged with anything
>>27557341
>bob barker
>>27558280
Oh dear. I change my opinions on whales now!
But objectively speaking, >>27558337 IS correct.
They hunt indiscriminately. Even the Blue Whale has been found in whale chow in Japan.
>>27558203
Gundams and sex bots killing hippies when?
>>27558246
Now now, no need to be rude to our allies like that. Japan's alright, and better then the Russians and Chinese by a country mile.
What would happen if one theroertically managed to get ahold of a boat and rig a 20mm cannon to it and balst these rainbow pirates to Davys locker and flase flagged under ISIS flag?
could one simply pull down the flag and repaint the boat and glide into the nearest port and disappear
>>27558361
Your specific country might have laws against piracy but they would have a hard time proving you didn't "find" it floating in international waters. A civil case might be more realistic.
>>27558361
>>27558389
From what I've been reading you could still be charged by the country you fly a flag for, the country you come to port in, and the UN. International waters aren't actually lawless, there's a UN pact that governs them.
>>27557709
JASDF has the power to do something since the repeal of Article 6. I dont think those hippies would try to ram a Japanese destroyer.
>pic related its the Atago
>>27558449
*Of course, they would have to catch you first.
>>27557989
How would this hold up to a rocket boosted torpedo ram?
>>27558449
>Charged by ISIS
I can already see the international circus this going to be
>>27558167
There's a reason why that pic is in black and white.
Never change, Vatnik.
>>27558482
Still better than my bathroom...ill bit sign me up lads
>>27557341
Australian tree huggers support them and keep the government from getting involved.
>>27557808
You're going about this the wrong way. Just infiltrate their crews.
There is no need to sink them.
With the quality of seamsnship they have they will sink themselves eventually.
>>27558375
I don't have a problem with hunting non-endangered species at all, if it's done consciously and with the populations in mind (like with deer in the USA).
Indiscriminate hunting of endangered species though is a different matter.
Doesn't mean I think the Sea Shepherds are right. They're assholes who care more about publicity than actually reducing whaling. The only people who can stop them are the international community in general.
>>27557341
While they are doing a lot of illegal shit, like boarding other ships without permission and avoiding the law by porthopping.. they do get illegal fishers out too, not just the whaling kind..
And the Japanese have a borderpatrol fleet that is going against them to protect the whalers, there have been collisions and some of the artsy shitty ships they had have even sunk.
They are not organized and most of their crews are new to the sea, idealistic ecohippies that can maybe last one year.
All in all, I think you should look more at greenpeace, they board ships illegally, porthop and endanger sea oil operations.. and if they keep doing it, they will eventually cause an oil spil eco disaster, the very same thing they are lip servicing of trying to prevent...
>>27558579
so, you're fine with how Norway does their whaling, and not how Japan does theirs.
Norway don't hide behind "muh research vessel", they're pretty open about how they hunt whales for food, and they don't hunt endangered whales.
>>27558482
>>27558530
Not a bad idea. We might be able to do it with a group of 3-5 per ship
>>27558203
>boarding action in samurai regalia painted in Hello Kitty colors
>>27558361
The US will actually prosecute you for crimes committed abroad. Which includes international waters.
It's stupid but on the other hand they need concrete evidence. Cleaning up a crime scene is probably extremely easy out in the ocean.
>>27557989
Shoulda went with an inverted bow.
>>27557341
>Bob Barker
NIPPY GOOKS COME ON DOWN
>>27558246
Now now, don't undersell Japan. They also provide us tons of high quality animated tentacle rape.
>>27558602
another other guy here
So would it be safe to say norway tries different methods in which endangered whales aren't inadvertently caught?
>>27558579
>Indiscriminate hunting of endangered species though is a different matter.
Why, though? The presumption is that more biodiversity is better, but that has yet to be justified. A whale species on the verge of collapse will not have much effect on the ecosystem if driven to extinction, since such a small population doesn't really do much. And since the ecosystem is complex and generally has redundancy, the effects will be balanced out after a few generations.
>>27557341
to be honest, they sunk themselves quite often.
>>27557529
>implying you shouldn't
The world needs less people like you.
>>27558125
This picture is deliciously Soviet.
>>27558130
>Only reason i don't eat whale, is because it >
>simply doesn't taste all that good.
you take that back!!
Have you tasted sealmeat?
>>27559178
No, its because norwegians are beautiful aryans and japanese are yellow subhumans, so whity gets a pass despite them both eating the same food despite the slightly cruel practice of whale hunting.
Its also why Icelandic people get away with eating shark and horse while Chinese people get made fun of the same thing.
>>27558591
Fuck greenpeace. France did nothing wrong.
>>27558213
While in international waters you are bound by the laws of your home port, and any treaties that they may have signed
>>27557989
Wait, there's a commercial shipyard commissioned by known terrorists to construct a purpose-built pirate ship?
How is that allowed?
Even Blackbeard couldn't just walk into a shipyard with a chest of gold and buy a warship.
>>27560141
>Turkey
>>27560141
>How is that allowed?
Money
>>27557989
>Winning the lottery
More like stealing it from the guy who actually won it. I never knew that Whitey Bulger
>>27561014
*owned a pirateship.
>>27560141
>Sea Shepards
>real terrorists
Call me when they start killing Japs.
>>27558024
dude didn't you watch the journey home? if we don't save the whales the earth is kill....
>>27558024
They're really fucking cool, and there aren't a lot of them.
That's good enough reason in my eyes for them to be considered more valuable than human lives.
>>27558265
fun fact, japan has the death penalty, and they do it right... no bs about "do we have the humane deadly drugs? what does the media say?" nope, they put you on death row, pick an execution date at random, inform you that morning that you will be killed, no visitors allowed, they give you a last meal, then they hang your criminal ass... they do try and make sure the family is the first informed of their loved ones death sentence being carried out before the general public.
>>27557341
Because it's for a show. At least back before I stopped watching it, they'd always track and lose the same whaling ship, then find it again, harass it, lose it, find it, harass it, lose it, repeat. They don't actually harass real whaling ships because then they'd have to step up for real and get their shit wrecked. Maybe the show has changed since, but it used to be completely staged.
>>27561165
The sea shepards are real terrorists they've rammed and scuttled a few ships before
>>27557831
You're doing it wrong. Get a tall ship, mount 12 pounders, sail up alongside, run out the guns and give them a taste of grape. Come about smartly and give them the other broadside. Close up alongside, and away boarders.
>>27561435
Is this true?
>>27561525
Yep
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Shepherd_Conservation_Society_operations#Spain_and_Portugal-area_whaling_.281979.E2.80.9380.29
France stopped too soon.
>>27558167
Russia plz go
>>27557890
>whales are more important than people
Go fuck yourself, misanthrope.
>>27557483
Due to the territorial claims in the China sea, and since shooting at each other is shunned upon by the UN, the japs (and ) have equipped their fishing boats with armored prows and giant engines. And when they encounter someone on their claims they just ram them and pretend they didn't saw them before the impact. They made boats that specialize purely in ramming, now.
Don't worry, if the japs could get away with it, sea shepherd would be eating plakton by now. It's just that SS have very good PR.
>>27561067
>That's good enough reason in my eyes for them to be considered more valuable than human lives.
Ten year old detected.
Opinion disregarded.
>>27561067
Can they reason? Are they self-aware? Can they create guns and rockets and trains and cities and colossal structures that defy nature on a daily basis?
DID THEY GO TO THE MOON, ANON? DID THEY?
>>27558024
I always felt shooting crows was weird. They are extremely intelligent.
>>27561743
Did you go to the moon?
Did you invent anything important?
Are you going to make any change in the world whatsoever? Odds are strongly against it.
The same is true for Japanese fishermen.
Logic dictates that the most valuable animals will be more valuable than the average human. There are 7 billion humans and no sign whatsoever of a shortage.
And whales are pretty cool.
Mammals the size of office buildings with 7 ton tongues, aortas large enough to swim through and the largest penises known to man.
Fuck, I'd drop another nuke on Japan to keep that shit around.
https://youtu.be/fyLGa0E3OXk
There, have some footage of their ships getting rekt.
>>27561743
>DID THEY GO TO THE MOON, ANON? DID THEY?
>>27561806
I wonder if some Japanese whalers are in the market for some old sea mines.
>>27559603
The only thing they did wrong was attempt to blow the vessel when nobody was aboard and minimise casualties
>>27561894
That isn't true.
The only thing they did wrong was be French.
>>27561864
I bet the Japanese whaling industry would hire /k/ in a heartbeat if we had a ship or two. I'm pretty sure everyone here would like to show those smug fucks what it really means to be a pirate.
>>27557808
There was a thread about a week ago where /k/ helped pick a decent sized ship out for a guy that was legitimately going to be able to buy a ship within a year or so. He was picking it out as the official first ship of /k/'s navy. The ship we picked for him was a former anti-pirate vessel.
>>27561951
>not siding against the Japanese
You're a disgrace to your kind.
>>27560141
I bet you it gets seized as soon as its launched. The shipyard gets to sell it to an oil company in the Middle East AND gets to keep all of SS's money.
>>27561806
Those sea org sailors are really something else. They cause accidents at sea and the whole time pretend their the victims of an attack.
>>27561695
>No shooting at boats
>Ramming and trying to sink other boats is totally cool
United Nations. Determined to promote social progress and better standards of life.
>>27562004
Right? They've got all this footage of them being thrown around their cabins like they didn't park their asses there in the first place.
>>27562004
>Sea Org
No, that's the paramilitary arm of the Scientologists. All they do is run the company cruise ship.
>>27561988
Hippies v. Japs
I'm kind of conflicted here.
>>27561806
>Bob Barker vs Yushin Maru #3 2010
>Bob Barker vs Yushin Maru #3 2014
>Steve Irwin vs Yushin Maru #3 2009
Yeah I'm going to say >>27561165 is right. The odds of these repeat meets are just crazy
>>27562027
That would explain how they got their hands on the footage from the Japanese ships.
>>27561988
Oh yeah I forgot that we fought Japan once so we can never be friends with them again just like with England and Canada and Mexico and the south and Spain and Germany and Italy and Vietnam and Russia.
dumb faggot
>>27562027
Not really. It's not like Japan has a large whaling fleet since it's supposed to be for "research". If the Yushin Maru is the primary harpoon ship, that's the one the hippies are going to be harassing constantly. There's no point throwing shit at the factory ship.
>>27562025
I may hate hippies, but whales are pretty cool.
I support environmental conservation as long as it involves really cool animals.
The one thing that bugs the shit out of me about the Sea Shepard people is that they haven't managed to make contacts with the yakuza and arrange for whalers to start being found dead.
>>27562048
There is if you're a fanatic and believe you have the right to assault others for engaging in a completely legal activity you disagree with.
So what country could we fly a flag under? Some shithole African country maybe? SA might not give a shit.
>>27562068
It isn't actually legal.
Japan just doesn't give a fuck.
>>27562056
Well that would be an effective use of their ridiculous funding. They'd rather continually pay for ship repairs and silly paint jobs instead.
>>27562069
Sealand
>>27562056
If they tried that, with the racist garbage Sea Shepard has spewed in Japan, it would more likely be the Sea Shepard crews found floating in Tokyo Bay.
>>27562068
You missed the point completely. There's no point in throwing shit at the factory ship WHEN THERE ARE OTHER SHIPS ACTIVELY HUNTING WHALES AT THE SAME TIME.
>>27562079
Well, hippies are naturally attracted to the most photogenic and pointless gestures.
>>27562082
>racist garbage
You have my attention. Sauce?
>>27562069
A flag older than all of us Kommrade.
>>27562077
It's at least legal under Japanese law, and they are not fishing in anyone's territorial waters, so it's legal. If the Japanese were doing something truly criminal, the Australian and New Zealand navies would stop them.
>>27562069
Japan would probably let us if we said we would kill the sea shepherds
>>27562099
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-ddV-rCE7U
>>27562103
Do you think international law actually matters?
I mean, it's illegal, but Japan is the world's third largest economy. Nobody wants to piss them off over some gay whales.
>>27562093
Oh no. I got that. I'm just saying their fanatics, thus most like crazy, so one shouldn't expect much from their decisions.
>>27561554
Did anyone actually read through this? It's literally a list of terrorist actions against sovereign ships. How the hell are these guys not all arrested, especially after using explosives to sink ships in a port?
>>27562116
An unenforced law might as well not exist. Besides whale, dolphin, shark fin, etc. is delicious. You can usually find it at the fancier restaurants in Yokohama or in Ginza.
>>27562116
You would be surprised. Australia helped out the Sea Shepard people for a while. They even deployed a warship in response to Japan trying to give their whalers escorts.
>>27562153
Well, the law against attacking Japanese whaling ships isn't enforced either.
Alright, how do we hijack their fleet and start a navy?
>>27562190
>we like care about the whales, man
>cut everyone throats in their sleep and take the boats
>continue to harass Japanese ships just because
>rob rich Califaggots on their yachts
>>27562181
Sea Shepard should be sunk for being a bunch of dirty terrorist hippies by a Japanese escort then, and since they've amended their constitution, I have got my fingers crossed.
>convince hippy faggot sea hippies that there is tons of illegal whaling going on in Syrian territorial waters.
>send Putin postcard reading "Fuck You Vlad" with sea hippy return address
>hilarity ensues
>>27562207
Here's a plan.
>>27562228
That's just give them what they want.
Right now, nobody is getting hurt, and it's barely putting a dent in whaling.
They'd love for someone to force the issue.
>>27558162
Yeah if I remember correctly he just so happened to be wearing a bullet proof vest and a bullet magically appears dead center of it despite no sounds of shooting and I think he was inside the ship as well
>>27562249
barely put a dent.
yeah. u don't really know jack shit do you
>>27562249
Yeah, but it would still be fun to watch them die.
The funny thing is, I'm sure that most of SS greatly admires the USSR, who during their day killed more whales than just about anyone in history... they just lied about it, until documents came to light after the Wall fell.
>>27561806
Could you imagine the smell emanating from the Bob Barker??? DAMN! You know those econazis don't bath often and/or use deodorant.
>>27557341
Thats a good fucking question. I've been reading through the list of actions that they have done for the last 40 years and they are literally terrorists.
>Sea Shepherd spent part of 1979 hunting for the whaling ship Sierra... To increase the effect of a ramming, the bow of the Sea Shepherd was filled with approximately 100 tonnes of cement. In July, the Sierra was found off the port of Oporto, Portugal. Sea Shepherd put non-essential crew ashore and manned by three crew, returned to ram and cripple the Sierra. The Sea Shepherd then attempted to reach the United Kingdom, but was intercepted by the Portuguese Navy and escorted back to Oporto. The Sierra was able to make it back to port for extensive repairs In Oporto.
>Watson decided to scuttle the ship rather than have it be sold for scrap and potentially used to compensate the owners of the Sierra
>While in Lisbon in February 1980, the Sierra was sunk with limpet mines.
>In a 2004 interview Paul Watson said, "Meanwhile, the Sierra had been repaired and was ready to return to sea. It never did so: on February 6, 1980, my crew blew the bottom out of her and permanently ended her career. We traded a ship for a ship, but it was a great trade because we also traded our ship for the lives of hundreds of whales."
>In April 1980, explosives were used to sink the whalers Isba I and Isba II in Vigo, Spain. Watson said that the boats were "victims of magnetic mines, one of them homemade, which had been planted by the same trio that destroyed the Sierra." Sea Shepherd does show these vessels on the tally of vessels "sunk" on the side of the Farley Mowat and the back of some Sea Shepherd shirts. The whalers Susan and Theresa are also shown on these tallies.
>In November 1986, The Hvalur 6 and Hvalur 7, two of the nation's (Iceland) four whaling ships, were sunk by opening their seacocks while they were moored in Reykjavík harbor.
>>27557341
>How is this legal?
its not. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-24985001
>>27557341
I'm not a military man but I'd love to organize some vets to make an NGO that is basically the red cross with guns. Goes into high destabilized parts of the world and basically defends the normal folk just trying to get by from all sides.
However I'm pretty sure at best this would be considered a mercenary organization by the UN and at worst a terrorist one...
>>27558530
>infiltrate a crew that vomits and cries over rotted fish, which they caused by forcing an illegal fisher to delay his net retrieval
Going to need to take a few acting classes.
>>27562543
I really have to wonder how this fag Watson hasn't found himself sitting in a prison cell somewhere for the rest of his life.
I'm guessing it's because he targets countries that won't fuck his shit up, which is why they don't try these kind of stunts with the Russians.
I also have to wonder if anyone would bother bringing charges against you if you blew up their ships in port.
>>27558217
rolf. and then some Putin puts his dick into anglosaxon mouth by making a simple fucking border patrol boat into strategical weapon which nukes ISIS from caspian sea.
>>27562602
>which is why they don't try these kind of stunts with the Russians
>In July 1981, The Sea Shepherd II sailed for the Bering Sea with the intention of harassing the Soviet whaler Sevetny. The IWC had authorized a Soviet take of 179 migrating whales off the Siberian coast.[62] On August 10, the group photographed what they considered an illegal whaling operation at an onshore packing plant.[63] The Sea Shepherd II was pursued towards American waters by Soviet helicopter gunships and a frigate. The Soviets signaled for the Sea Shepherd vessel to stop, dropped flares on the deck, and attempted to foul its propeller.[64] The Sea Shepherd II remained in the area for several days despite the Soviet warning of "decisive action" and potential espionage charges.[65]
>In the summer of 1982, Watson offered a reporter an exclusive story on the group's plan to ram a Soviet vessel. The reporter informed authorities and the ramming did not take place.[66] On September 13, 1982, Watson dropped paint filled light bulbs from an airplane onto a Soviet vessel to protest the country's whaling.[67] The ship was positioned off the coast of Washington state's Cape Flattery and believed to have been monitoring a nearby submarine base.[68] Watson and Sea Shepherd were charged with violations of Canada's Aeronautics Act. The charges were dismissed by a provincial court judge because they did not specify where the act had occurred.[69]
Its fucking amazing that this man is not dead or in prison for life. I want to think its just dumb luck and not actually being talented in this sort of thing because he is literally dumber than a bag of hammers.
>>27557831
Ya'll realise that if we sail under no countries flag we are considered pirates and fairgame.
>>27562658
what's a solid if not entirely stable land locked country we can use?
>>27562650
Aw, is widdle vatnik mad cause big bad murrica could buiwd and opewate nuke boats without killing entire cwews wholesale? poow baby.
>>27562653
My guess is that the Soviets didn't waste them on the spot because the cold war was still going on at that point. It would be pretty bad if they killed American/European citizens.
Who the fuck cares if it's legal?
If you don't like watching big ass boats ramming the shit out of each other then you don't love freedom.
>>27562674
Fuck it use chechenya. Or some random country such as Lichtenstein, or Chad or Sudan.
The Holy Murder Kubes HMC kebab remover
ok if /k/ gets it shit together I would sign up to keep the japs killing whales.
Don't get me wrong I hate the japs, and I also hate hippies .
But what I really hate in this world is whales. Why?, Because I spent half a year having to make fucking bronze whales for people that like whales WAY too much.
These fuckers would spend 6 to 7 thousand dollars on a fucking bronze whale. The worst part is that each whale needed to be "perfect". I would spend 2 hours on average making sure that the whales junk, yet alone the days to make the fucker. oh and these fuckers knew there whale junk. They would send anything back that did not have the "feeling" of a whale. What the fuck dose that even mean? do they summon dead whales in the fucker, or have weird sex to it? I will never know, but I know the whales must pay!
I don't even like the sea. I swore I would never get back on a ship, but to help people to kill whale I would go back to the bitch they call the sea.
And I will a fix a small whale on my nagant, and shove right up a hippies ass..
>>27562721
>And I will a fix a small whale on my nagant, and shove right up a hippies ass..
I would assume that whale would have anatomically correct junk, right?
>>27558482
Why is their water always olivine in color?
>>27562742
Oh you bet it will
>>27561055
That future doesn't happen now , didn't you watch the new star trek movies?
>>27562685
>Aw
tell me more about Canada my dear ukrainian whore.
>>27562758
Is it just me or have the Vatniks abandoned even the pretense of trying to make sense lately?
>>27562674
If it doesn't have a shipping registry it doesn't matter. The only landlocked country that has one of those is Mongolia, and they'll probably do anything if you give them a portable stove.
>>27562658
That doesn't matter if you can just defend from any boarders. Your only real problem will be from a navy and having a nations flag won't do jack shit to stop them from boarding you.
>>27562796
Pretty sure you will have any nations navy try to arrest your crew as soon as you try to go to port in any civilised nation or are seen by a naval vessel anywhere.
>>27558028
Not when they hunt in other nations waters because their own are over-fished as fuck. Fuck those slant eyed niggers.
>>27562674
>>27562788
If you piss off a country enough they will send a naval force after you, flag or not. Registry doesn't really matter.
The US will prosecute you for crimes committed abroad. As in US laws.
If you attack a ship and murder the crew in the middle of the ocean you can still be prosecuted when you get home. Your only chance is to do it quick and destroy the evidence or sink the ship.
If they get a distress signal out you can bet your ass the nearest warship will be on its way flank speed.
>>27562746
is it because of the chemicals in the pool ?
>>27562814
I'm not doubting that, I just meant that being registered in a country won't stop another country from sinking or stopping you.
>>27557622
Needs more dazzle. Not dazzle enough.
>>27562796
>having a nations flag won't do jack shit to stop them from boarding you
Not true. Having a flag requires them to at least have pretext to stop you and then board you. If you aren't flying a flag of convenience, it'll usually keep you from being harassed if you're not committing a crime. If you aren't flying a flag, however, you can be boarded and arrested at any time by any warship. They don't even need a reason, and in fact I believe they're encouraged to do so.
>>27562822
I was talking about just having a shit without registry or flag BEFORE we start doing things that get us noticed enough to have arrest orders and seizure of the vessel.
>>27562056
the Yakuza would never side with dirty Gaijin
>>27562837
No doubt if you upset them enough , but I'm just saying that from the get go , if you sail a vessel with no registry or flag , you are not legal and will be fucked over by the first navy or coast guard vessel that spots you.
Enjoy being charged with piracy and losing your vessel even before you /k/ it up.
>>27562861
Yakuza aint shit compared to the Triads.
>>27562840
Well unless the nation of the ship that is being boarded is going to do anything about it, unlikely, it really doesn't help.
The US navy can and will board any ship they want if they feel it will stop a crime or in some way help them. So what if the registry country objects. What are they gonna do?
Same thing applies for other countries navies, the US won't give a flying fuck if on of our ships is stopped and searched if a country believes illegal activity is going on. And there is nothing we can do unless we are there. and we won't unless we think it is irrational, like iirc Iran stopped and boarded one of our ships for shits and giggles.
>>27557341
There is no international state, therefore there is no international law. International law is simply what individuals nations feel like doing on a given day. And no I am not being edgy, I bet you thought Interpol has police officers ? Wrong Interpol has no agents to make arrests with.
>>27562895
As I said, they have to have PRETEXT. Navies can't just randomly board and seize ships for shits and giggles; that's how wars are started.
>>27562895
>>27562840
But let me rephrase. I agree with what you are saying. Having a flag will deter a search a BIT more than having none. Especially if it is a powerful flag. But only if your aren't commuting s crime.
>>27562912
>>27562918
>>27562895
Yea ok we are basically on the same page.
>>27562928
Operating a private warship will however get you extra attention.
>>27562953
That's why you just use frog men with mines...
But yea a search would just be a waste of time and resources without probable cause.
>>27562653
>>27562981
I wonder what their response would be if someone used their own methods against them?
>>27562981
Fucking up the ships in the dock would be easiest.
Nothing beats the time honored tradition of rental vans and homemade bombs.
>>27563022
You guna do this in Japan ?
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>>27557341
>Whereas Japan sneaks around pretending to kill whales for "scientific research," the Norwegians have blatantly defied the moratorium with commercial hunting. Like Japan, they have raised their own quotas year after year.
>mfw they hate us more than the nips
norwegian coastguard have run into them several times, but they usually rams them and shit. don't think they are very active up here
>>27560141
>Sea Shepherd
>terrorists
So this is the power... of american education...
>>27563132
>setting off explosives at ports
>not terrorism
So this is the power of Kommifornian private schools..
>>27557341
as an australian/shitposter I can explain it to you really simply
there is a big treatie about whaling signed by heaps and heaps of countries
japan signed a nuber of such treatise, and jus breaks them willy nilly
they have also been whaling in other countries territorial waters
the reason they do this is because the Japanese have a latent fear of not being able to support their population, and of loosing their traditions; so for Japanese politicians it's an easy sell
many austalians have a strong will to protect the environment, and form a voting bloc
the sea shepard is a bunch of eco-terrorists, who try to stop the japenese, and only the japenese
many australians support the sea Shepard
the sea shepard has been enormously sucessful in it's roll, stopping the entire japenese whaling fleet at some times, and saving countless whales
what makes this issue intractable is that the sea sheapard is doing something the australian navy would be perfectly within their rights to do, so any attack on the sea sheapard would be seen as an attack on australian maritime authority; which would draw a slew of critisizm from a large number of asian and euro countries
>tldr she sheapard is doing australia's navy's job for them, australia prefers this "unofficial enforcement" , and the japenese can't do shit because they are breaking the law and have no navy
>>27563224
How does this still hold true considering the fact that Sea Shepard is primarily comprised of largely ineffective attention whores?
What are the chances of being caught if you are a pirate in the Pacific and you sink every ship you Rob
>>27563224
yeah but Japan has rammed and sunk Sea Shep' vessels in the past with no repercussions.
>>27563257
lulz , Japanese Navy ,Australian Navy & US Navy would ruin you pirate.
>>27558530
I've often wondered if you could secretly contract (for sweet pay) with the Japs to infiltrate sea Shepard crews and bring aboard GPS trackers so the whaling fleet can avoid the Sheps.
>>27563263
Except the Japanese have never sunk a Sea Shepherd ship.
http://www.3news.co.nz/world/ady-gil-sues-sea-shepherd-over-antarctic-sinking-2013011013#axzz3oWOz6ayd
>>27561770
You I like. And agree with the nuking. Fuck it whales are cool. Would be sucks if they disappeared because some people want to have scientific research on toast in the mornings.
>>27563257
>ships now worth millions of dollars
>ships now have multiple methods of satellite communication
>also have several methods of location broadcasting mandated by law
>one that only broadcasts after a ship sinks
You'd get one before the US Navy starts hunting you down. Get two and they won't try to bring you in for trial.
>>27563251
they need attention to gain funding, as the government can't bee seen to directly support them because of the grey area they fall into
and they have actually been really effective, they used to just ride up the ass of the japenese so they blocked the chutes the whales were drawn up
they also shielded whales with their ships at enormous risk
>>27563263
that is more or less true, however that was when sea shepard too a much more aggressive line
also there were serious consequences for japan, many small asian countries saw japan as an aggressor because of it
australians are even more reluctant to give japan our defence contracts for submarines
now there is a fight for the china sea, more countries will think japan is not the victim
all for the price of some small boat
>>27557341
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94W4trkb1Pw
Watch the Norwegians fucking wreck them
To Valhala!
>>27563369
>and they have actually been really effective, they used to just ride up the ass of the japenese so they blocked the chutes the whales were drawn up
No, anon, they really haven't. They've briefly interfered with one ship at a time out of over a dozen, and that's one ship for about 10% of the time. The other 90% of the time, they're looking for a ship to mess with. Meanwhile, the factory keeps churning meat.
These chucklefucks are obviously in it for the glory, not any real change. Anyone who's read up on Watson's life can easily diagnose him with a narcissistic personality disorder.
>>27563341
So the Ady Gil wasn't lost ?
>>27561695
there are motherfucking 21st century triremes?
>>27563451
No it sank, but:
"Ady Gil’s skipper, New Zealander Pete Bethune, claimed Mr Watson had ordered the vessel to be deliberately and secretly scuttled to increase public sympathy.
Read more: http://www.3news.co.nz/world/ady-gil-sues-sea-shepherd-over-antarctic-sinking-2013011013#ixzz3oWVk24DG
>>27563353
Pretty much this. Destroyer Captains would put Ragu out of business pleading to be the ship sent to deal with a modern pirate in a ship large enough to call for the 5" cannon.
>>27563416
If they were in it for change, the Steve Irwin would have a deck gun and the factory ship would have been sunk long ago.
Losing one of those would put the whalers out of business for at least a year. A factory ship cannot be cheap or easy to replace.
SS claims they are willing to die for the whales, but why they haven't taken an action that would A) ensure real change, at least for a while and B) very likely result in Atago or some other Japanese warship coming down and murdering them all tells us all we need to know about them.
They are not about change, they are about attention. They are sea-SJWs.
>>27563378
I love how choppy the editing is so as not to challenge the Sea Shepherd narrative, including their leader already on the phone selling his story to the media. If some nations navy is attacking you, chances are you are the one that fucked up.
>>27563579
Well yeah. That's what all of these eco-fanatics are about. They're willing to do anything that only involves symbolic sacrifice and feeds their egos. If they were asked to make real sacrifices they'd shit themselves and beg for someone to save them.
Think of the whales!
Whaling is an insignificant source of food anyways.
It's just that the whalers are right wing yakuza connected along with the right wing politicians.
>>27563582
They're, as usual, in the wrong. I like to think of that as the highlights real of them getting rekt
>>27563604
Killer whales are the most adorable of all the big bad ocean monsters.
>>27563594
I am waiting for the day someone does take it to the extreme of sinking a factory ship with shell fire. There must be some surplus 3" or 5" deck guns out there from WWII in the Middle East or Asia that can be had for cold hard cash.
Because SS is allowed to get away with all they have without real repercussions, someone will one day buy a ship, mount a deck gun and a pair of 50s on her and really go after whalers or some other group on the high seas.
The whaling fleet will not be prepared for it, that's for sure.
>>27563631
>Killer whales are the most adorable of all the big bad ocean monsters.
Orcas are bro tier.
>>27563632
I'd love to fly a kamikaze drone into a sea-shepherd ship
>>27563378
Holy FUCK btfo.
Remove whale.
>>27563378
That Norwegian ship was not fucking around. Putting a shot across the bow is pretty extreme. Also, calling them pirates is amusing as the ships they were bothering probably sent distress signals which means that Norwegian ship was withing every legal right to do what it did. In fact, the Captain of that ship showed restraint.
SS is lucky it wasn't the Russians. They'd have put a WP round into the bridge, a high-ex into the engines and raked the deck with shrapnel shells and been done with them.
>>27563641
>has one of the highest human kill count of the man-raping dolphin family
>bro
Fuck all dolphins.
>>27563604
Fuck you! Whale Bacon is delicious!
>>27563378
Norwegians should have sunk them, give them an opportunity to turn themselves into the custody of the navy, if not then have fun floating around in your lifeboat
>>27563691
Only captive ones, there are no recorded instances of orcas attacking humans in the wild.
>>27563691
To be fair, they were in captivity and under stress.
Well I'm no Marine life Psychologist, but I sure as hell wouldn't want to be trapped in a fucking tank my whole life .
>>27563710
But Orca's also attack and kill even more endangered whales.
>>27563719
The remains of the Minke Whale washed up near Formby - the victim of a Killer Whale attack
>>27563378
>Ram a naval vessel which has right-of-way over you
>Throw a hissy-fit when they start firing upon you
Wow. Just wow.
>>27563710
>be giant niggery dolphin
>smash through ice and eat K'i'lik'i'nuk'chuk while he's fishing a mile from his Inuit village
>his family presume he just got drunk, stuck his dick into his fishing hole, and died
>no record that you ate his ass
Even Canada does it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=97&v=_nUSWTzvzZA
>>27563798
How many times do you hear sorry yelled?
>>27557341
Am I the only one who thinks these guys are badass for taking the law into their own hands?
I don't even care what the nips do or how much fucked up shit they are into, but the fact that these people got off their asses and did something about a problem that bothers them is commendable.
Most people will sit around and bitch for their entire lives, and they never do anything. Not these guys, they live to harass the shit out of people on the other side of the world in cool looking boats
>>27559404
I need more soviet pictures in my life
The mystique and unignorable danger both frighten and fascinate me
>>27563866
I'm just saying some assholes do that to me and I'm launching a 81mm shell from a mortar mig welded portside of my rustbucket named willieguts
