>you don't ever want to mess with any firearm that's illegal, you know, that's just stupid
>you know, you hear about people doing that occasionally and it's just stupid
>you know, they deserve to be in prison if they're messing around with class 3 [sic] firearms without the proper licensing and that kinda thang
http://youtu.be/s30IjVts73M?t=1m57s
According to the latest ATF letter on the SB15, hickok45 illegally manufacturers a "class 3" (the class 3 special occupational tax is paid by certain federal firearms licensees and has nothing to do with the firearms themselves) in this video:
http://youtu.be/U7WsEjkO0fk
will he turn himself in since he "deserves to be in prison" for his law breaking?
>ATFs latest letter
>video 2 years old
OP, don't be that faggot.
>>24410826
people have said since day 1 that the sig brace is illegal to shoulder and, lo and behold, they were right.
>>24410795
You're talking about by shouldering the brace?
Nearly every big gun youtube channel did that, as did probably millions of Americans
It will probably be like 922r.
Technically it's a law, but it isn't enforced. Nobody is going to come to your house and arrest you for breaking 922r, just like they won't for shouldering a brace.
I do know that 922r is enforced for importation, but not after that.
>>24410837
people saying it does not = atf saying it
the atf didn't say it til a few days ago.
he technically wasn't doing anything illegal at the time as far as i know.
>>24410863
wrong, the law never changed. the law always said "designed or redesigned" but of course thousands of idiots thought "hurr durr SBR loophole nobama chemtrails" and bought it.
the ATF always has been wrong at first on technicalities because, guess what, they're staffed by the very same morons that make up the general public.
>>24410795
>you know, they deserve to be in prison if they're messing around with class 3 [sic] firearms without the proper licensing and that kinda thang
trolling aside I am severely disappointed with youtube grandpa after hearing this
Fuck him and fuck his channel
>>24411140
>implying Hickok45 was ever worth watching
R.I.P. Hickok.
>>24410942
No, there was a loop hole. Then a bunch of people bothered the ATF about it (Everyone has to have their own signed letter talking about it!) and they made a real ruling. Thanks gun owners
>>24411204
This.
It's just some old fudd shooting guns. I see that every time I go to the range. He doesn't even really "review" the guns he shoots.
>>24411348
What I don't get is why everyone has stopped sending letters now that they finally said "no" I swear gun owners are the dumbest people. They simply can't go to bed until they've had a good beating.
Bump
Why is no one talking about this?
>>24410795
2015 starting off horribly.
>>24411348
>there was a loop hole
incorrect, you (and many others) were dumb enough to believe there was a loophole when there was none. enough letter writers wrote to alert tier 2 at the ATF. now the higher ups who supervise the dummies that respond to letters from conspiracy theorists have set the record straight.
>>24411814
You mean they actually respond to conspiracy theorists instead of ignoring them?
>>24411799
ATF made their position known AFTER hickok's video.
>this entire thread
Goddamn does /k/ go to total shit during holidays.
>>24411835
>woosh
>>24410795
Ex post facto laws you fucking idiot, OP. Jesus christ.
>>24411862
It's not even a holiday
>>24411853
Thread's over.
Everyone go home.
>>24411862
What holiday?
>>24411869
the law. never. changed. the law was always "designed or redesigned". but kudos for being one of those dangerous idiots who throw out irrelevant legal terms to sound like you know what you're talking about.
>>24411878
>>24411905
>>24411928
Literally who?
>>24411937
I rest my case.
>>24411928
What does a picture of a black man have anything do with the question?
>Hickock45 here [whispering]
>Today we have a little something special for you
>As you can see... Jon, give them a better angle here...
>[The camera pokes up above a barricade, revealing a perimeter of ATF vehicles and armed agents surrounding the compound
>As you can see, we have a bit of a predicament here at the Hickock45 compound
>So today we brought out a few things to kick off our finale here on our YouTube series
>First I'd like to thank Federal for supplying me with all this ammo because *chuckles* I'll probably be needing it!
>Lets just open up with the Glock, because you know I like my Glock.
>What should we shoot... Oh, I think I see a sniper setting up out there. Lets see if I can... -bang- -GOOOONG- Hahaha, alright, I still got it!
>pop, pop, pop
>ATF agents dropping
>ATF returns fire
>Hickock45 hits the dirt
>Looks like my mag is empty. I think I might need a bit more firepower for this... Good thing I've got my trusty GARAND. The old warhorse! Lets give it a try.
>BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM -ping-
>8 ATF hit the ground
>Boy, wasn't that satisfying. I always love pulling out the ol' Garand.
>Banging at the front door
>Now that I think about it, I've got some 00 buck sitting around that is just begging to be shot. And we shall oblige!
>camera pans to the front door
>ATF agents break into the room
>a flurry of shotgun blasts reduce them to quivering heaps
>Yeah, gotta love that 00 buck, it gets the job done every time! Life is good!
>slow motion of sniper being headshot at 200 yards with a glock brand glock
>slow motion of entry team getting rekt
>>24411853
It's also an indefensible position.
They pretty much stuck their dick in a grinder and will need an executive order to top any judge from cranking out freedom sausages.
>>24411959
Read it all in his voice.
>>24411905
>>24411878
>>24411937
please PLEASE be not fucking american or 11 years old something. PLEASE.
>>24411140
I'm pretty sure he's just covering his ass.
>>24411959
I read that in Mr. Rodgers voice.
>>24410795
this is tyranny
>>24412023
not every cares about MiLK JaR day
>>24411972
>bought sig brace
>shouldered the shit out of it
>atf: hurr guyse we changed our mind, as of today thats bad mkay
>cool story, guess its an sbr now right?
>atf: yuuup
>which was made before you 'banned' it correct?
>atf: yeeep
>cool, thanks for the free grandfathered sbr. guess ill go attach a real stock now
>atf: hey no prob- WAIT WHAT THE FUCK
>later loser! hahaha!
>atf: ill throw you in prison for 50 zaquillion years!!!!!
>except i have this receipt for the brace and gun that dates before your ruling
>atf: FFFFFAAAAAWWWWWKKKKK
i can only see good things happeneing
>>24412086
i sure as fuck do, its a free 4 day weekend for me nigga
>>24412118
>we granfather'd now
>>24412118
>atf: actually we just had our lawyers take a second look at the law. shouldering the sb15 is illegal.
>idiot: but muh rights!
>atf: look, you're just too dumb to understand the law and too poorfag to hire a lawyer to read it for you.
>idiot: hurr durr!
>atf: the law never changed. let's introduce you to the judge.
>>24412023
I didn't fucking know until I tried to go to the bank and they were closed
>>24412204
>atf
>lawyers
>caring about the law, even the ones they made
0/10 could not immerse in the story
Who cares? If you want an unregistered SBR, just put a fucking stock on your pistol and there you go.
friendly reminder that paying for stamps is bootlicking.
I would personally kill everyone in the ATF, if they laid a finger on Hicock45.
>>24412274
>not having life experience to know govt agencies employ an ungodly amount of lawyers
>/k/ommandos actually defending the ATF and their ruling
>>24410795
Was just at my LGS today and they still stock the Sig braces and still have AR and AK pistols on sale with the braces installed. Does this mean my LGS willingly encouraging people to break the law, or is there no law to be broken?
>or is my LGS a certified ATF honeypot
>>24412303
>I would personally kill everyone in the ATF
yeah, i'm out of here. enjoy getting v& and goodnight everyone.
>>24412303
>willing to murder strangers for a stranger
>cant even spell his name right
>>24411878
>>24411905
>>24411955
This board is completely fucked
>>24412382
he knows what he spelled
>>24412329
the brace is still legal to sell and to install on a pistol, you fool. you can still use it by strapping it to your arm, in accordance with the original design.
>>24412303
Ohhh i can picture the army of /k/ marching down with their nuggets to free their master
>>24410795
It's not a retroactive decree dickhead.
Why am I replying to this bait.
>>24412370
First thing after reading what he said I wondered if the atf actually does lurk /k/
>>24411959
Oh god
Yes
I can actually imagine the whole fucking thing
Thank you /k/omrade
>>24411959
If the feds try to arrest him we need to go all Ruby Ridge on their ass.
>>24412420
you think people are kidding, or are really too lazy to read the fucking document and instead just believe everything they read on /k/?
>>24411959
>>24411959
You forgot him shooting a .45 LC or .45 ACP and telling me to look at that big ol torpedo. Oh, and he never put on his ears!
>>24411914
> ex post facto
> common knowledge
> irrelevant legal terms to sound like you know what you're talking about.
Nigger please
Assuming you're right, nobody was arrested and made a felon for shouldering it up until this point.
At least he'll have some company in prison. Maybe they can discuss stuff like selling Tavors after they get out.
>>24411580
>black rifles
>full auto
>"hi cap" mags
>fudd
You fucking wot m8?
>inb4 lel /K/ is ez 2 b8
>>24412204
>ATF
>arresting people
>not just killing them and "accidentally" their home.
>and home
>and wife
>and dog
Sure thing faggot
>>24413169
>home twice
Christ I'm tired
Is this the daily hate Hickok thread from our resident autist?
>>24412389
>abloobloo, no one cares about muh chocolate leader
Welcome to every other holiday, how many people do you think can say what St. Patricks day is about without looking it up?
>>24413232
No joke, isn't St. Patrick's day about a guy who expelled all of the snakes from Ireland or something?
>>24413232
>abloobloo, no one cares about muh chocolate leader
Yeah, it totally wasn't that idiots have no idea what's going on or that they couldn't even recognize a picture of a very publicised figure. Yeah, I was totally going on about people caring about.
You fucking idiot.
>>24413169
>any 3 letter agency
>not 95% powerpoint jockeys, paper shufflers, space occupiers
dank conspiracy memes brah
>>24413232
nigger if you are somehow able to be totally blind to the shitload of civil rights mess that gets crammed fucking everywhere leading up to and including MLKday and don't even know what the man looks like you deserve to be made fucking fun of
>>24411878
You're not aware?
Today is Robert E. Lee Day.
>>24413278
>Waco and ruby ridge didn't happen
Sure thing pal
>>24413255
>it totally wasn't that idiots have no idea what's going on or that they couldn't even recognize a picture of a very publicized figure
Or it could be that your favorite chocolate leader is not as relevant to the modern day as you would like him to be.
Honestly do not I think he would be happy that he died for the current black culture, but this is a /pol/ topic.
>>24413307
got enough straw there?
>>24413282
>watching MSM
you only have yourself to blame
>>24413332
I'll have you know I only watch Fox News.
>>24413329
>heavily reference Waco and ruby ridge in post
>lel nice conspiracy faget
>outright state the events
>lel strawman
U wot m8? Do you have to be reminded to breathe?
>>24413318
>Or it could be that your favorite chocolate leader is not as relevant to the modern day as you would like him to be.
Please stop trying to comprehend blatant intentions and points, you're clearly incapable.
Whether you like him or hate him, MLK is a household figure. His fucking name was in the fucking filename of the picture the tripfag posted. Google has a fuckhuge picture of him on the homepage. Every fucking news outlet has some shit pertaining to it on the frontpage or top story, the banks are closed, most schools are closed, and a shitload of businesses are closed. And then all of that is apparently not enough for some people? No, go fuck yourself, I don't even like this forced feel-good shit, except for the fact that I get a day off because of it. But at least I'm not a fucking idiot and am able to understand not only why i have a day off, but that I have a day off period.
>>24412636
Damn, he's a big guy.
>>24413356
>implying two events happening in the span of several decades accurately portray an entire agency's modus operandi
don't you have to be up early tomorrow to buy up all the 22 at some big box store?
>>24412424
Bonus points if they line up and fire a couple minutes of volleys into the building before moving in. 200 guys with nuggets firing 15 volleys per minute would be equivalent to doing a driveby with a minigun.
>>24412636
WHY DOES HE WEAR THE CAP
>>24410795
Ex post facto.
>>24413460
>thinking you're the first moron in this thread to drop that irrelevant legal term
>>24411869
>>24413448
So people will care who he is.
>>24413376
>meme bait
I will not bite, no sir
>>24411928
>Martin Luther Coon
>>24411959
>Impotent Rage: The Post
>>24411204
Don't you have a ditch to hide in, Buck Angel?
>>24411959
>>24413289
Happy Birthday, Mr. Lee!
>>24411809
Don't worry. We're gonna make it. The kiddies and and newfags and /pol/acks are gonna leave, and soon /k/ will be good again, and Ivan will start tripping again.
Gotta keep livin' to see the change. We're gonna make it, brah.
>>24412636
I also have the problem of pant cuffs looking odd while wearing comfy shoes.
Shoelaces are also annoying to deal with
>>24412636
>knees buckling under the sheer weight of his arm
>>24411814
>incorrect, you (and many others) were dumb enough to believe there was a loophole when there was none
OP, I am afraid you have a case of stupidity. It's incurable. The ATF said the Sig brace was fine initially, as misusing it was not against the law. They recently changed their minds and closed the loophole.
>>24413318
>Honestly do not I think he would be happy that he died for the current black culture
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpcvPrGl_KU
One of the reasons that I love the Boondocks. The other reasons being Colonel Stinkmeaner.
>>24413448
A LOT OF LOYALTY FOR A GLOCK SHILL
>or perhaps he's wondering why you'd shoot a man before puttin' yer ears on
>>24413643
>Ivan will start tripping again.
Nah man, that ship has sailed. This place is a wasteland of reposts, shitposts, tripfags and their lovers, and unknowledable retards. Each day it becomes more bloated and cancerous. Leave for opchan or bannedchan.
>>24413376
...If I take that hat off, will you die?
>>24413643
...and all that will happen just in time for summer to start.
>>24413737
No. I will stand and fight, and if so be it, I will go down with the ship. This is my, no - OUR sacred motherland. This is the Original /k/, and I'll be damned if I'm not gonna use every fiber of my being to make it the Best /k/.
Last summer, I've written down a list of thread ideas that I thought would help liven up the place, but I've never gotten to posting them... Is it time? One last attempt to save /k/? One final push?
>>24413737
Thank you anon-kun, I missed getting a screenshot of that thread because I was at work at the time and didn't know how to take a screen shot on my phone.
>>24413793
/k/ turned me into the man I am today. I can still remember when I started, as an edgy /b/tard with a slight interest in guns... /k/ is like a second home to me, and to countless others we have to save it.
>>24412143
How old are you kiddo?
>>24413793
Just give up. This isn't 'Original /k/', not anymore. The place went to shit years ago. The userbase has changed alot since the early days. The 'board culture' consists entirely of LE KEBEB MAYMAY, BRRRRT, and dragon dildos. There are better chans out there now. I hardly come here anymore.
>>24413802
Yup.
>>24413731
WHAT'S GOOD, NIGGA!?
>>24413643
Much as I'd like to be hopeful, Sandy killed this board, and then the tumblr bullshit took a piss on the corpse. Not saying the /k/ we knew and love can't ever come back, but it won't be any time soon...
>>24413881
I meant Original /k/ in the sense that it was the first /k/, on the first American 'chan. I only joined up in late 2012 IIRC, so I'm not really an Oldfag, but I can still tell that the quality of posts in my early days was generally better.
>>24410795
No, hes not.
>>24411959
glorious
>>24413967
>I only joined up in late 2012
It was bad before that. As >>24413958 said, Sandy really hit us hard and diluted the userbase, but the decay was already there. This board cannot be saved by a single person, best not to waste your efforts. At this point, you can either embrace the board in its march to r/guns2.0, or move on to better chans.
>>24414080
Not him, but in what ways do you see /k/ turning into r/guns 2.0?
>>24413683
>but duh aye tee eff said it wuz ok!
they wrote a letter with no legal weight whatsoever saying what one guy at the ATF thought the right answer was. he was wrong. the above happens a few more times. now, they've issued their latest and only relevant opinion about the law. there was never a loophole to close. the only relevant "hole" is the empty space between your ears.
>>24414136
somehow people who own guns because the police won't protect them, and cite legal ruling that the police only have to provide general protection to the community, think the ATF has their back with opinion letters. letters that are inadmissible in court. lel.
>Hickok is a zionist sympathizer.
Dropped.
The wife beating I could tolerate, but this is too much.
>>24414080
>but the decay was already there
/k/ was by no means a flourishing paradise in the months and years leading up to Sandy, but what that event, combined with the Trayvon shitshow, did to this board cannot be understated in my eyes.
>>24414272
proof?
>>24414325
there is none
it's a baseless accusation, because it is now a meme to shit on hickock45
>>24413349
>>24410795
