So what would be the best camo for a forest like this? Flecktarn is not working there at all.
Pic related
standard woodland camo
Personally for forested areas like that I use CADPAT woodland/ ERDL
>>22773539
what's that structure in the middle background OP?
>>22773595
Fragments of WW II fortifications
>>22773539
JGSDF camo
ERDL
Multicam tropic
ATACS FG
OD
(probably ) flecktarn D camo
russian Palm camo
KLMK
chinese type 07 woodland
Marpat wood
AOR 2 ( or 1, i forgot wich one is the green type ) also NWU green
1964 tiger stripe, not the 1991 OPFOR version wich is more darker
mitchell's vine pattern
that USMC camo that look like AUSCAM used during the pacific war
and that's all i think
>>22773609
danke anon-chen
>>22773539
DPM-95 is perfect for that kind of environment
>>22773623
Whole area is pretty much a forest grew on old fort
>>22773621
I hear tiger stripe actually sucks.
>but i still love it
>>22773539
I think any pattern based off the woodland camo should be good, the French and the Slovakians made a camo based on it.
Any tropical camo.
The green navy work uniform would work really well, DPM and portugese lizard would also.
Hell, OD green and roll around in the dirt a bit would suffice.
>>22773640
Its supposed to be more of a symbol in its time though, no?
I was thinking of stuff like Multicam Tropic, CADPAT, ESTDCU or M/05, unfortunately only the MC is obtainable
>>22773539
This OP.
OD green or regular old M65
CADPAT or MARPAT
>>22773639
I almost want to say its a shame that it's overgrown, but it still has beauty to it.
>>22773639
What area?
>YOU SHOULD GET X OBSCURE MILSURP CAMO YOU WONT FIND ANY GEAR IN.
>"Yeah dude I got this carthaginian woodland camo for $60 on ebay, its way legit"
/k/ in a nutshell
Just buy some woodland and ignore /k/
>>22773729
These two photos come from forts arround Pozna?, Poland
>>22773675
Well special forces did use it quite often, but apparently as general camo it was crappy.
I suppose the idea was to be able to get pretty close to your adversary before he could see you. But that's just some shit I heard on /k/
That doesnt stop me from wearing tiger stripe BDUs inna woods kek
>>22773738
this
I recommended dpm-95 as you can get a jacket and trousers for about £10 pretty much anywhere here (UK). I expect it is a similar story with old woodland camos wherever you are from
Kryptek Mandrake?
This, or CADPAT. Woodland from a surplus store if you can't order online/ have a small budget.
>>22773751
Ah.
Reminded me of northern Mississippi, which is why I asked.
>>22773539
ATACS FG
>>22773809
Mandrake looks interesting, I wonder how effective it actually is.
>>22773823
From what I remember ATACS FG is pretty bad.
>>22773640
It's a short range camo designed for jungles, of course it sucks when it's out of the intended environment. It doesn't suck in the jungles it was designed for.
>>22773841
>From what I remember ATACS FG is pretty bad.
Have you never actually used it? Our woods look like OPs pic during early winter/ early spring and it works great then.
The camo is only half of it, get it dirty, then it WILL blend in, even ACUs blend if you dont wash them.
PS: MARPAT, Woodland.
>>22773660
this. I have an OD green longsleeve shirt that might as well be predator stealth if I smudge it with dirt.
>>22774016
>>22773965
Not tacticool enough
>>22773539
>So what would be the best camo for a forest like this?
Commercial hunting pattern camo.
Military camo is always going to be a compromise and while it's good for a lot of environments,
it'll never be as good as commercial hunting camo specifically designed for a particular environment.
>>22774289
Not really. Photo camo works pretty good if you don't move, but it tends to form into a solid color when looked from afar.
Besides, everyone knows Ghillie suit is the best camo.
Pencott greenzone
>>22774433
If you like cooking yourself in your own clothes, yes.
>>22773539
God I really hate to say this joke tier company put out something that would work anywhere, but I have to speak the truth.
>>22774623
How are they joke tier?
>>22773539
Realistically, unless you're hunting turkey, your prey has worse eyesight than you. Old tricolor will do fine for 90% of forests in the US. Spending more will only get you very marginal returns if you already have something like MARPAT
That said, Mossy oak and Lost camo are the sexiest commercial camo.
>>22774623
>>22774636
Refer to>>22774659
>>22774671
That hardly makes the joke teir at all. You're just being a fucking retard.
Multicam and other camo pattersn come in LE / urban versions as well.
Hi kam.
I recommend M/05.
>>22775355
>Multicam
hue
>>22775479
Seconded. M05 is absolutely beautiful.
>>22774623
>>22774659
>>22775496
>making money off of the police fags tacticool fantasies is retarded
And this is why you don't run a business.
>>22775913
M/05 is shit, go away you fucking finfag
>>22774433
>Not really.
Yes, really.
>>22775998
Nigga, u just jelly.
>>22773539
Pencott GreenZone, Multicam Tropic, Slocam.
>>22776016
Good only for a specific area in a specific season, and only when standing still. It's a decent choice for hunters, but if OP wants to play with airshit or prep for SHTF, military camouflage patterns are a better investment.
>>22775954
>I was laughing at you quoting multicam for use in defense of the other camo not being joke tier
>I-i'm not a hobo, this is normal, see there are plenty of other people living in boxes as well, normal.
>>22773558
>>22773579
>>22773738
Fucking this. Woodland rocks the fuck out in environments like that--and doesn't cost an arm+leg.
>>22773539
CADPAT, why did you even have to ask?
>>22776036
I'm jelly, finnfriend
How impossible is it to get M05?
>>22773738
>Implying it's better than Roman M-XIXV.
Stay pleb, Carthage.
The Army has spent years and millions of dollars in two separate trials empirically testing camouflage and twice declared the Multicam family of patterns to be superior to all others.
You can ignore the evidence of these findings, but it doesn't change the facts.
>>22776189
Not quite impossible. I can give you the contact details of the guy who sold me those, if you'd like. I don't think he has any left, but it can't hurt to ask.
>>22776215
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>22776257
You think this is a motherfucking game?
>>22776254
Not that guy, but how much did you pay?
>>22776288
His anal virginity
>>22776288
Á EUR85.
>>22776303
So not that much then...?
>>22776307
That's actually not too bad.
>>22773539
If you're a nigger. Wait until it's dark and use mother nature's natural night camo.
>>22776328
Actually, camouflage patterns work better at night than flat dark.
>>22773539
bullshit fleck works everywhere
>>22776126
>>I was laughing at you quoting multicam for use in defense of the other camo not being joke tier
Never said you weren't retard.
>>22776285
tropic sucks dick though.
>>22776351
Come on, stop. You aren't even trying
>>22776489
>outperformed literally every other camo on the market
>sucks
Get a load of this faggot.
>>22776550
Nigger, stop shilling.
>>22776561
>I don't have any facts to support my opinions
Just spreading awareness. OP wants a camouflage for a specific environment, Multicam and it's derivatives are proven to be the best. Let the facts be known.
>>22776610
>I don't have any facts to support my opinions
>Implying you do.
>>22776550
>>22776550
And where did they test tropic you retard?
Further more if you read their actual tests you would see that there were camo paterns that beat multicam.
Stop pulling shit out of your ass.
>>22776688
>implying you do.
Why yes, in fact I do.
>http://soldiersystems.net/2013/10/12/us-army-camouflage-improvement-effort-us-army-awards-contract-to-crye-for-ocp/
>>22776700
>And where did they test tropic you retard?
You can go back through the past three years worth of news regarding the camo trials if you want to read the specifics of the scientific method used to evaluate patterns.
>Further more if you read their actual tests you would see that there were camo paterns that beat multi cam.
That statement may be true in specific environments, for instance Multicam is not a suitable camouflage for dense jungle environments - Hence Multicam Tropic. That's why the testing was for a family of camouflages with the transitional variant of the final four contestants shown in pic related. Of all these finalists it was concluded that the Multicam family of patterns to include Aird and Tropical variants there of performed better than any other.
>Stop pulling shit out of your ass.
Again, these are the facts. You're just going to have to deal with them.
>>22776812
>>Further more if you read their actual tests you would see that there were camo paterns that beat multi cam
Just to further debunk this statement I should point out that the specific data from the Phase IV trials have not been released other than the final four contestants and obviously the overall winner.
If you're attempting to refer to the 2009 camo trials you'll find that Multicam (now OCP) did in fact perform the best, and that's why it won.
>>22773539
CADPAT
>>22776215
DON'T FORGET ME!
Also,
>>22775355
Why can't you see that those LE versions are shitty, worthless, goof ninja crap.
>>22776610
>Multicam and it's derivatives are proven to be the best. Let the facts be known.
That never happened.
>>22777063
What's it like living under a rock for the past five years? Or was that your mother's basement?
>>22774446
this.
>>22777113
Such hilarious
So haha
wow
>>22776752
>Government test
>To prove what is actually best.
You must lead an enchanting life if you honestly believe that.
>>22776070
>Good only when standing still
That's one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Are you suggesting someone will be spotted while
moving in commercial hunting camo, because the observer notices a leaf or branch in the camo pattern
is out of place?
>>22773634
I second this. DPM would be perfect and is pretty common so your not ruining something expensive.
>>22777899
Yes. Human eye is good at picking up movement, and commercial hunting camo does nothing to break the silhouette.
>>22773539
UCP it works everywhere
>>22776343
>But muh ninjer fantasies!
>>22773539
>So what would be the best camo for a forest like this?
Learning how to camouflage.
>>22773621
>that USMC camo that look like AUSCAM used during the pacific war
It was called M1942, or frogskin by the Marines.
DPM
M84
M90
wouldn't be too bad either.
>>22776307
>>22776254
Finnfag here, I'd love to get my hand on some real M05
>>22780408
Give your email address and I'll send you the seller's info. Like I said earlier, he's probably sold it all already, but it can't hurt to ask.
He also had M05 woodland fabric for sale at a price of 25eur/1.5x1m
>all these tacticool faggot responses
>they've never worn woodland
>>22780463
kiitti broidi!
[email protected]
>>22776812
or in other words they didn't test tropic.
>>22776930
>ATACS should pass up on money from tacticool cops because you don't like it
>>22778262
> Human eye is good at picking up movement
Yet not better then prey animals.
> and commercial hunting camo does nothing to break the silhouette.
All right, _this_ is the stupidest thing I've ever read...
>>22781119
If that seems stupid to you, then maybe you should look up some facts about camouflage before shilling commercial hunting patterns.
>>22781203
He's been at it for at least 2 months now.
He's asshurt that nobody likes or discusses his overpriced fuddshit (in a favorable way).
>>22774446
This looks like CADPAT, MARPAT, Flacktarn, and hunting camo had an orgy..
>>22781119
You're right. Mossy Oak is awesome. Too bad most of it isn't treated with fire retardant or you'll be like this when tracers hit your position
>>22778421
What are some good guides we could learn from?
>>22773539
after reading where this thread went i'm not so sure i want to post this here...
But i'm going hunting on the 4th for the first time. It was a last minute planned thing and i cannot post pone it so i will have to go with the best camo (at a low price).
needs to be durable as possible but i don't really care if it doesn't blend in as well as real tree does. I don't have the money for real tree and honestly don't see much point in it as my state requires i wear a significant amount of orange anyway.
Pic related is in the same Unit i'm going hunting in. I'll be hunting prong horn, any cheap recommendations?
just gonna throw this out there and say "anything but this"
>>22780584
>or in other words they didn't test tropic.
No other words, just simple ones you refuse to accept: They tested transitional, tropic and arid version of Multicam, and they performed better than the transitional, tropic and arid versions of everything else. It's not that hard to understand, but then again I'm not mentally challenged.
>>22782192
M81 Woodland, Flecktarn, DPM or just wear normal clothing in earth tones.
>>22782240
>>22784318
Why the fuck does the US stick out like a sore thumb. Please tell me new uniforms are right around the corner
>>22784425
Yes, the army is going to some Multicam knockoff, but they'll be using specific patterns for different areas.
>>22784455
Scorpion came before multicam...
>>22781533
tracers arent that flammable. Ive shot plenty of god damn tracers and ive only caught something on fire once.....there was a severe drought and I actually burned down the range at fort bragg. (I was a muhreen training there). Oh the memories.
>>22785415
this
>>22773704
do like
>>22776189
I have two of the jackets. Feels good man. At work so can't post a pic to gloat.
>>22776215
Actually the best camo in the competition that resulted in the abortion known as UCP was basically American version of DPM.
>>22785781
Do you have any pics of that pre-UCP thing?
>>22785556
I honestly wonder if Hugo boss would ever design another military uniform given the Nazi ties of the past.
I think we need more designers making uniforms, The pattern stay the same however the cut is what the designers would modify
>>22785781
Wasn't Dpm a knock off of American woodland? That's like copying the copier that copied you...
Copyception
>>22788249
Are you retarded?
DPM was made in the early 60's based on the early Denison smock pattern, a brushstroke pattern from WW2.
M81 woodland was made in 1981 from ERDL which itself was based off of WW2 German Leibermuster.
>>22788281
All I know is that MTP is nice.
It looks like one of the forests I airshit at.
You could either go for Danish M84 camo, or any green-based Slav pattern : Flora, KLMK, Tochka-4... Your call.
Where do you guys get your camo?
>>22788700
I've seen flora being used there once, it looks nice but the greens used in it are too vibrant and it just glows.
>>22788737
ebay, local ebay alternatives, milsulp stores
>>22787963
Not as good as terrain specific camo (no universal camo will beat a terrain specific one in its native environment), but the best of the "universal" designs. Heavy on the brown, with strokes or green and tan, just like multicam.
>>22789002
Sorry about the photo quality. Apparently they only had potatoes to takes pictures of thsi stuff.
>>22773640
I allways wondered why the tigerstripes are horizontal and not vertical like on a tiger
I wonder how many patterns out of these listed in this thread can be bought new.
>>22788234
Boss actually never designed the uniforms. Someone the Nazis appointed designed them, Boss' factories were just manufacturing them.
>>22789131
A Tigers stripes is only a two color Camo, while Tigerstripes is a four color Camo, both try to blend into the Environment in different ways.
>>22789131
Because most people scan from left to right, not up and down.
>>22782240
So in your opinion he shouldn't use UCP, Multicam, a woodland patterned ghillie suit, or sniper veils?
Because ghillie suits and sniper veils really help in wooded terrain in my opinion.
>>22789131
The tiger stripes are meant to "break up" the longest parts into visually smaller ones. A tiger is longer horizontal than it is vertical, so the stripes are vertical.
A human is vertically longer, so the stripes run horizontal to make the human appear as shorter sections. Please note that this also works when a human lies prone, as the stripes then are vertical breaking up the long horizontal form the same way it does on the tiger.
