Previously on Victoria:
>hi all, welcome to the /k/ book club!
>today's refreshments are potluck, because anything else is shilling
>we'll be discussing a craptastic post-apocalypic themed generation warfare tract that flies in the face of logic and history, even in the realm of fantasy
>because of that, the refreshments are mostly vodka and various pharmaceuticals
>now let's take a walk down masochism lane with The Sta-I mean Victoria, ghostwritten by William "Teutonic Caboose" Lind
>As it turned out, the Nazis took over Wisconsin while the cultural Marxists conquered Minnesota. Jews, blacks, Hispanics, and feminists fled Wisconsin for Minnesota, running headlong into whites and Asians coming the other way. Leader Braun set up a concentration camp at Oshkosh, with gas chambers, ovens, the whole works, and began building a new state capitol in the form of a swastika so huge it would be visible from space.
>Really makes you wonder if Lind's erotic tastes swing to JAV rather than Nazi bondage porn.
>Oh, I'm sure there's at least one JAV somewhere out there where a geisha in bondage gets railed by the most teutonic motherfucker they can find wearing a Nazi uniform, after a ten minute long segment where she fellates a Luger.
>I didn’t mind a bit of multiculturalism with Asians, because their culture, like Western culture, had earned respect.
>>“Tell the air boss on the John Kelly to get a transport ready along with four dive bombers as escorts.” The Kelly carried our ground support air wing, which the Japs called Jaeger Air, using the old German word that meant both “hunter” and “light infantry.” It included two squadrons of Val II prop-driven dive bombers. They were slow but deadly accurate, and unlike fancy PGMs you could stock a lot of 2,000 pound bombs because they were cheap.
>>30597403
Previous Threads:
http://desuarchive.org/k/search/subject/Let%27s%20Read%20Victoria/
>tfw even lind's japs are wehraboos
Chapter 41: Awaken My Masters
>Like most flying boats, the big Kawanishi was slow. By the time we reached Buffalo, the Northern Confederation’s westernmost city, the sun was long gone from the sky.
Is it any surprise that Lind is a fan of flying boats as well as trains?
>The ones we took were solid stock, plain folk and hard working, with the friendliness that had characterized English Canada. We didn’t let in the French Canadians.
Let the Eastern bastards freeze!
>“She leaves at midnight,” the sergeant answered. Trains were always “she,” which was odd since they were supposed to be on time. “But we couldn’t get you a Pullman berth or even a seat. All filled up. Folks are traveling again, mostly on business.””
LIGHT
>“That’s OK, I’ll ride the RPO.” The Railway Post Office car was another old idea we had revived. The mail was sorted en route. You could put a letter in the RPO's slot in Buffalo Tuesday evening and it would be delivered in Albany Wednesday morning.
RAIL
>“No sweat,” the sergeant replied. “The streetcars still run pretty often even this late.” Thanks to Niagara Falls, this part of the N.C. had plentiful electricity, and streetcars had made a fast comeback. They were another good idea we had forgotten about in the Motor Age.
ENTHUSIAST
>The RPO exploded with an immense WHUMPF as steam entered the Niagara’s cylinders and the 80-inch drivers grabbed at the rail. I looked at my old Hamilton watch: right on twelve midnight. In the Northern Confederation, the trains ran on time. Soon the engine was belting out the steady TCH-tch-tch-tch TCH-tch-tch-tch that meant steam at speed. It proved an effective sleeping potion.
Sure, we might have sacrificed computers, farm vehicles, and research universities, but at least the trains run on time.
>>30597489
>“Don’t worry, you won’t,” he said. “We just put those off for last. We know our soldiers need their sleep. If you’d like some breakfast, we’ve got a thermos of coffee and a cheese sandwich we picked up for you at Albany.”
>“Thanks. How’d you get coffee?”
>“We Buffalo boys do a bit of trading across the river. Got some Cuban cigars too if you’d like one.”
A black market for minor luxury items like coffee: always the sign of a healthy economy
>Bill stared me down, expressionless. Then he came to attention, saluted, and barked, “Heil dir im Siegerkranz!” “Hail to thee in the Victor's wreath!” It was the old song played at German military triumphs, the tune known elsewhere as “God Save the Queen.”
Gratuitous German Quotes: 24
>“You know the first law of war, my boy,” Bill replied, grinning. “All’s well that ends well. You got the result we intended, at virtually no cost to us. That’s my definition of a brilliant campaign.”
And somehow the Chinese aren't upset enough to stop building NC infrastructure. Not that it matters, because logistics is for 2GW chumps that don't even use mission-type orders.
>The governor intended to stay in Portland for a few days, nosing about and taking the pulse in our busiest port. [Kraft/Fedora Man's] duties as Field Marshal never detracted from his work as governor of Maine, which he regarded as his first responsibility. He understood that smaller, not bigger, is better.
So why is he Il Duce of the Northern Confederation?
>“We’ve got some rather interesting boats sailing out of Portland now, schooners, some three-masted, heading toward the Grand Banks. It would be a real 19th century experience to crew on one,” Bill said.
Remember that writefag parody about ships-of-the-line? Yup, this is going pretty much where you think it is.
>>30597575
In 4th Gen whale hunting, the leviathan moves more in time than space
>>30597575
>I nearly choked on my falafel. “You mean my reward for a job well done is to be demoted from Admiral of the Fleet to cabin boy on some damned lobster boat? What’s second prize, a moose shit sandwich?”
I keked.
>“Piracy. Our fishing boats are disappearing on the Grand Banks.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdJg6Duzzf4
>“Because we don’t really have one. Your magnificent Pacific squadron was a rent-a-fleet. Our real Navy doesn’t have near enough ships or men to patrol the Grand Banks. Of course, you can leave this mission up to them if you want. I simply thought you might want to visit the front, as wise Chiefs of the General Staff have been known to do.”
I thought they had trawlers with 240mm mortars and Grad rockets. To me, that seems like it would make a better Q-ship than what they're going to use.
>The next morning I walked down to the Navy Yard, where our High Sea Fleet of torpedo boats and converted trawlers was based. The subs were at New London. Alongside the pier was moored a three-masted schooner. I quickly spied Captain Rick Hoffman, the senior officer of the N.C. Navy, chewing somebody’s ass on the quarter-deck.
Of course they have those, but an armed schooner is just the trick. Retroculture amirite?
>“She’s the former Victory Chimes, out of Castine,” Rick replied. “She was built early in the 20th century as a lumber schooner, and later converted into a cruise boat that worked Penobscot Bay in the 1960s and 70s. She’s got the lines of a barn and the speed of an old house darkey on a hot July day, but she’s sturdy, and that’s what we need most.”
Damn orcs
>>30597662
>Rick led me down to the lower deck where the passenger cabins used to be. In their place was a full gun deck. I could see a row of 120 mm breech-loading mortars mounted on each beam. Rick grabbed a line and pulled, and a port opened in front of the nearest gun. Putting his shoulder to it, he ran it out on a carriage that looked about right for a twelve-pounder. “We’ve got fourteen ports a side, with a mix of 120s and 50. cal. machine guns. Plus, fore and aft, we’ve got Sagger missiles on pivot carriages, which we can use on broadside or as chasers. What d’ya think?”
I think this would really cool if anyone other than William Lind were writing this. He however, will make it remarkably boring.
>“The name of our ship! We’ve wanted to rename her now that she’s a man o'war, but couldn’t come up with anything we liked. Admiral, you stand on the gun deck of the NCS Horatio Hornblower!” A ragged cheer went up from the men working around us. I was glad to know some people were still reading C.S. Forester. His books are excellent studies of military decision-making.
Lind probably learned (and poorly at that) from Honor Harrington school of strategy
>It didn’t take long for the first military problem to crop up. We saw some other Northern Confederation fishing boats, sailing ships like ourselves. But most of the fishing operations we encountered were foreign, motorized, and poaching the hell out of our fishing grounds. I knew what my first order of business would be once I got back to Augusta.
And whose fault is it for knocking the Northern Confederation back to somewhere between 1760 and 1860?
>Just after noon, as I was enjoying some cheese and hardtack with the daily grog ration, the foretop lookout cried “Ship ahoy! Two ships close abeam 30 degrees off the starboard bow. Range five miles.”
These are two Mexican ships that they saw earlier and which are probably pirates.
>>30597710
Oh God it's happening..
>>30597403
>mfw I literally wrote the book club part while on the john
>>30597710
>“His flag,” Rick answered. “He just raised it to his bridge, but I don’t recognize it. It’s red with some kind of white blob in the middle.”
Prepare yourself.
>The trawler suddenly shifted his helm and came starboard of us. The gun crews quietly moved from one broadside to the other. We could hear the trawler suddenly back engines as he came abeam of us. Above, Rick yelled, “Ahoy, what ship?”
>Through an open gunport, I got a clear look at the pirates’ flag: red with three white skulls in a horizontal line, and above them a white, stepped pyramid. Aztecs?
Guess who's back?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUhVCoTsBaM
>The gunfire from the trawler was quickly drowned in a cascade of exploding 120mm shells. They ripped whole sheets of metal from her bridge and her hull. Our .50 cals smothered every point from which enemy fire had been observed. In a matter of seconds her bridge was a pile of flaming wreckage and we could see gaps in her hull that reached below the waterline.
Another entertaining and tension-filled battle from Billy Lind
>I walked forward to find the bowchaser crew manhandling their Sagger on its pivot carriage from the starboard to the port side of the ship. By the time that muscle-intensive operation was completed, the trawler was in Sagger range. It was still a long shot. We’d see whether today’s Yankee gunners were as good as their ancestors who served Preble and Decatur. The carriage extended the Sagger on a long arm to keep the back blast out of the ship. It was a jury-rig that made aiming awkward. I knew I couldn’t have hit much with it, not at that range.
Which means that they're going to hit
>>30597786
>You're next line is.. The gunners made Perry proud
>>30597786
>Flight time should be about 15 seconds. I leveled my binos at the oncoming trawler and counted: 11, 12, 13–a hit! The warhead flashed, smoke and parts of the ship flew upward and a dull boom echoed across the water. Then it was Beatty at Jutland all over again. With an enormous flash and roar, the trawler exploded. When the smoke cleared, nothing was left.
Heaven forbid they leave some foes alive to give some warning to their enemies.
>“We’ll get it out of her, sir,” a sailor said, grinning, Men may not like shooting women, even in war, but there are plenty of other things they enjoy doing to a woman caught on a battlefield.
I bet this guy is a secret sodomite who owns a laptop.
>“Not that way,” I replied with an icy look. “Remember, we’re a Christian country. If anybody needs God’s favor, it’s men at sea on a sailing ship.”
It's okay. We're white TRUE Christians here.
They pick her out of the water and give her some hot soup.
>“I am sorry, señor, but your food is very bad,” she said.
>“We know. Yankees generally don’t make good cooks.”
>“I was the cook on the Nuestra Señora de Guadaloupe,” she replied. “If you want me to, I will cook for you also.”
Where all women belong. Anyone that thinks otherwise is a silly broad whom we will kill with dive bombers.
>“No señor. I was not on the pirate ship. I was cook on the trawler, the one the Aztecs took. The ship you sank with a rocket, señor. It was my brother’s ship. The Aztecs took me aboard their ship for their pleasure, señor.”
It is confirmed, the Aztecs are back.
>“We are Cristeros, señor. My father is a leader of the Cristeros in the province of Tamaulipas. We are at war with the Aztecs. That is why we were here.”
Honestly, this is what I was waiting for since we first learned that the Aztecs were back in Chapter 21 or so. For those who don't know their Mexican history, here's a summary.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cristero_War
>>30597917
>If anybody needs God’s favor, it’s men at sea on a sailing ship.”
ONLY sailing ships though. Diesel is the blood of Satan and his heart is a nuclear reactor.
>>30597403
Please keep it up. I only joined the fun in part 5, and am now reading through the archives.
I never understood why my roommates liked watching shitty movies, yet here I am.
>>30597917
>“Yes, señor. They do not search for fish, nor for ships, nor for treasure as we understand it. They have come to take captives for Huitzilopochtli. In the time of Cortez, Huitzilopochtli preferred Indian blood. But through his priests, he has told the Mexica Tlatoani, their priest-king, that he will no longer accept the hearts and blood of Indians. He demands white hearts and white blood now. So the Mexica go ever farther in their quest for those things.”
Brutal
>“I am Maria Mercedes de Dio de Alva,” she replied. “And I would like to cook for you.”
Good woman.
>Maria Gift of God of the House of Alva, one of the noblest families of Spain. I had no idea any of the Alvas had gone to Mexico. Good thing for her she was rescued by an N.C. ship and not a Dutchman, I thought. Well, if an Alva wanted to cook for us, who were we to say no?
How convenient that she's Spanish nobility. She relates that, at this point, the Cristeros have been reduced to guerilla warfare
>I was always puzzled when someone used the phrase, “reduced to guerrilla warfare.” Even brain-dead attritionists with their Lanchestrian equations thought a superiority of three-to-one enough to attack a conventional opponent, when a superiority of ten-to-one was the minimum required against guerrillas.
Lind hates using math in theorycrafting about war. This really explains a lot.
>“We have no leader, señor,” she replied. “Remember that we are Latins. With us, everything depends on one Great Man. Without such a one, there may be ideas, hopes, even efforts, but in the end nothing happens. If we had a leader like yourself, then we would have hope. But as it is…” Again, she shrugged. “Would you help us?”
What's really hamstringing them is that they're lazy spics as we will find out.
>>30597917
>Anyone that thinks otherwise is a silly broad whom we will kill with dive bombers.
Kekkonen.
Just wanted to recognize the anon who put this in the Google doc
>Ramirez called out that Victor had ran a cable to the weather vane on top of the church, a clear sign they had set up a COC in the basement, as was their unchanging way. S2 called it 'retroculture', we all just called it retarded.
For anyone wondering, I looked into the swastika visible from space building. The only similar thing listed on wikipedia as visible from space is a series of greenhouses in Spain that cover an area of 200 sq km. If given the same density of workers as the Sears Tower, Space Swastika Capitol building would hold 5,714,287 people. For the capital of a war/holocaust ravaged Wisconsin.
>>30598040
>muh 6 million
>>30598003
>Well, here I go again, I thought. The Hispanics had driven the Anglos out of the old American Southwest, and killed plenty of us in doing it. Was I now supposed to go in and help pull their tamales out of the fire? On the other hand, the Hispanics were Christians and the Mexica religion was pure devil-worship.
Let me translate: B-but they're brown people!
>Maria was a good woman. She took life as it came, doing whatever woman’s work needed to be done, including cooking on a warship that had sunk her brother’s boat with him on board. She didn’t demand and she didn’t complain. She had none of the excitability of Latin women, for which I was thankful. The blood of the Alvas had left its mark on her. She had the quiet strength and genuine humility that mark a real aristocrat.
>Being a Christian, something had to mean marriage. It seemed eons ago that I’d last thought about marriage. I admired Maria, and I liked her. Could I love her? I had no expectation of romantic love, nor any desire for it. By its nature it was a flash in the pan, the only effect of which was to lead incompatible people into marriages that didn’t last. A better question was, were Maria and I two people who would grow to love each other over time? I couldn’t answer, but I found it interesting that I was asking myself the question.
Waifufaggotry: Lind-style
>“Philadelphia orcs?”
Someone's guess at the identity of the pirates. I guess it caught on.
At this point, it is suggested that they nuke Tenochtitlan.
>“As Chief of the General Staff, I’d have to advise against using nuclear weapons unless our survival is at stake. Any country that looks like it’s loose with nukes invites pre-emption. Remember, Rick, it’s a nervous world out there.”
This is from Rumford. Who back in Chapter 36 had Atlanta nuked to ethnically cleanse the niggers and exterminate the politically correct politburo.
>>30598086
>Remember, Rick, it’s a nervous world out there.”
YEAH BECAUSE THAT EVER STOPPED YOU
>>30598057
>Oi vey, its anuddah Super Bowl 32
>>30598086
>Maria said that the Cristeros' main weakness is that they lack a strong leader. She asked if I would go down there and be one.”
I hope he gets sacrificed on a step pyramid desu
>“I wouldn’t say this about Maria, Rick, since she is a Spanish Alva, but its mestizos we’re talkin’ about helping. La Raza. Mexicans.”
Oh, Maria is white. Rumford just has qualms about helping swarthy people.
"Oh, but Billy Boy, they don't have that much power projection. That's a good reason to be doubtful."
Didn't stop them from renting the Japanese navy to fight Cascadia for vague reasons I still can't make sense of.
>The Krafts had invited Maria to stay with them, and she was happy to join Mrs. Kraft in the kitchen. Mrs. Kraft was a first-rate cook, but she gamely demoted herself to scullery maid for the evening and let Maria take over. She knew her husband was both catholic and venturesome in matters of the table, and as a good wife she always looked first to his pleasures and comforts.
Cringed.
>As usual, I was counting on a good dinner to put Bill in the best mood toward my proposed adventure, and Maria did not disappoint. Bill was more enthusiastic about the squid cooked in its own ink than I was, but Maria's chicken molé left everyone purring like cats with cream. Dessert was a flan as rich as Ebenezer Scrooge. When the ladies retired to the kitchen to clean up, Bill brought out the treasures he reserved for happy occasions: Uppmanns and Grand Marnier. The omens were favorable.
Kim Jong-Un is Bill Kraft's spirit animal
They go with Maria to the study and start asking her about the war in Mexico. As it turns, out the cusp of victory, her father was betrayed by his brother.
>>30598271
>“That was not possible, señor. The assassins were from another family, the Ocampos. They made one of their own the new captain-general. That left blood between our families, so we cannot work together. We both fight the Indios, but when our men meet, they also fight each other.”
A rift in the Cristero ranks. They're as likely to fight each other as the Aztecs.
>“I see our men go out, señor, and I hear them talk when they get back. My father tells us about the war sometimes. The men do not believe women should go with them near the fighting.”
>“They’re right about that,” I injected.
Captain autism strikes again
>“Señor, it is Mexico. It is possible to make great plans, but nothing happens. You go to meet someone and they do not come. The man who was to bring the bullets got drunk last night and is still in bed. Nobody told another man to put gas in the truck so he did not do so. In your country, when things go wrong, people make them right. In my country, they find a place in the shade and wait for someone else to do it. Many people have tried to change Mexico and make it like other places: Maximilian, Dias, Cardenas, Salinas. But in the end, they go away or die, and everything is the same.”
>“There are always plots, señor. You can trust no one. When you Yankees have a problem, you put a group of men together and they solve it. In Latin countries, if you do that, the people do not think of the problem. They think of how they can please other men who might be useful to them. They look for patrons or clients. They support one against another. The problem is not important and is soon forgotten. That is our culture, señor.”
They can't win because they're lazy, dishonest mestizos in so many more words. Kraft decides to let Rumford make the call as to whether or not he can salvage things.
>>30598327
It's like Lind read some McCarthy and went "Yeah, the problem is the Mexicans. I can't be assed to look up these Spanish words, but seems right." He probably thinks Glanton was the hero of Blood Meridian.
>>30598327
>Oh, it worked better than some others. I’d rather live in Mexico than Africa. But I remembered a joke a Spanish Marine Corps officer told me at Quantico. “People talk about the German economic miracle or the Japanese economic miracle, but those aren’t miracles at all,” he said. “Germans and Japs work like crazy. Spain is the real economic miracle. The place is booming and nobody works at all.”
This seems a little dated based on when he published it.
>But that answer left me facing another question: what about Maria? What did I owe her? What did she want from me? Anything, now that I had to refuse her request to help her people? Was I really thinking about marriage?
I would care a lot more if she had been introduced some time before this chapter
>The problem was that I was already married. I was married to Bellona, goddess of war.
Pic related, I hope.
>“Maria, I have to tell you something I would rather not. I will not be going to Mexico. I do not think my presence would make a decisive difference, even if the Cristeros were to accept me as a leader, which they might or might not. I cannot justify leaving my duties here in the face of that fact.”
He decides not to. After some debate as to whether or not to send her to Houston. His eventual solution is to have her live with him.
>Lead us not into temptation, I thought. What about when I was home? Maria and I alone under the same roof, liking each other, perhaps in time loving each other, unmarried. Could I maintain her honor and God’s law?
Chastely of course. He is TRUE Christian man, mass murder aside.
>For once, I thought, I’ve done something right, and it wasn’t just fighting a battle.
I wonder if Maria is supposed to stand in for a childhood love Lind once had.
End Chapter 41
Next chapter, prepare for the horrors of California FEMINISTS!
>>30598495
Are you ready for Lind to go full Sprey, OP?
>>30597786
>120mm shells
Hold up. That trawler was close enough to be hailed verbally. And they dumped 120mm on it? 120s have a range of nearly 10 klicks, so that's charge zero and firing at 89 degrees? And no damage to your stupid, century old wooden ship? Who came up with this fucking plan?
>>30598495
Calling it right now. Cali is an Amazon woman society where men are a slave underclass. Bonus points if they use bows and remove their left breast.
>>30598536
I'm normally a chapter ahead of the one that I'm riffing, so I'm well aware of Lind's opinion of "flying pianos"
>>30598567
I think they have Russian 120mm breach-loading mortards mounted on 18th-century gun carriages. It's dumb, don't get me wrong; but it superficially is not the dumbest thing I've read so far in this. It's pretty tame for Lind
>>30598577
I wonder if we will see some weird femdom bondage thing conjured form the depths of linds shame filled secret place
>>30597786
So they're not just pirates, they're Aztec pirates?
I legimately did not see that coming, that's pretty amazing.
>>30598672
I miss the space wizard hummingbird. That was cool.
>>30598613
I'd be surprised if that wasn't the case. The morally offended good Christian monologue will be entertaining as well.
>tfw live in WI
>tfw went to college at UW Oshkosh
lind thinks this place will be a nazi paradise?
>>30598003
t. Senora Totally-not-a-mouthpiece-for-lazy-old-racist-stereotypes.
$100 on making her food way too spicy for any CHRISTIAN MUHREEN
>>30598003
>Even brain-dead attritionists with their Lanchestrian equations
ok I'm pretty sure I've got where Lind's "dive bombers>paveways" shit comes from now
This goes back to Lind's origins as an early 1980s theoretician, when the Revolution in Military Affairs was an untested export from Soviet military theory (in which it was known as the Military-Technical Revolution, and was far beyond the economic and technological capacity of the USSR to actually implement) forecasting that these newfangled beep boop computers and star wars laser pointers would present revolutionary operational capabilities.
Lind was a Maneuver Warfare man. While Maneuver wasn't ignored by AirLand Battle, I get the impression Lind remains very sore about the the intrusion of PGMs and computer networking into his cherished schwerpunkts-and-shock ideal. Back then, laser-guided bombs and computers were to Boyd, Sprey & co. what the F-35 is today: fragile, expensive nerd shit stealing money from real warfighters. For a long time the military in general saw emergent technology as only force multipliers for existing concepts rather than revolutionary capabilities, and I guess Lind ended up privately stereotyping techno-enthusiast RMA proponents as being simplistically obsessed with firepower attrition, and assuming by extension that RMA weapons systems were incompatible with Maneuver as the thinking man's doctrine.
The irony is that RMA actually works very well with Boyd's concept of disrupting enemy decisionmaking through deep strikes. PGMs made it possible to strike unprecedentedly far into the enemy's rear area, and networking creates massive new efficiencies in the intelligence and decisionmaking cycle. The Soviets assessed that NATO PGMs effectively neutralized their existing doctrine and shifted the balance of forces in Europe radically towards parity. We could not have achieved that effect with "robust" non-joint, non-precision systems.
>>30598788
I'll take that action.
A hundred on her being an Aztec spy.
Wait, hold up. Never mind. Lind would never let his self insert be wrong about anything.
>>30598807
>The irony is that RMA actually works very well with Boyd's concept of disrupting enemy decisionmaking through deep strikes
Wasn't that basically how the '03 invasion of Iraq went?
>>30598897
and the Gulf War.
ironic that a rapidly-developed PGM solution to bunkers that could only be dropped because the IADS had been degraded to the point of toothlessness was one of the final nails in the coffin for Saddam in '91
>>30598897
And the 1st Gulf War, and basically every war we've fought.
Clearly we don't have the perfect answer to modern insurgency, because we haven't won ours decisively and Israel got memed on pretty hard in Lebanon by what Lind would probably categorize as "4GW" forces, but RMA capabilities have certainly proven themselves as extremely valuable for all manner of COIN operations.
Lind probably hears offhand about how ISIS is still around and takes this, like the Iraq or Taliban insurgencies, to mean that the US bombing campaign is a failure and that LGBs have been exposed as a meme. I sincerely doubt he's given any thought to whether we could have sustained a two-front COIN compaign for over a decade with a historically low casualty rate, and a wholly professional military to boot, using A-10s, dive bombers and radio shack walkie-talkies.
Chapter 42: You Never Go Full Sprey
>I couldn’t say they were pleased with what I’d let follow me home, but they had good manners and minded them. The name Alva helped; we Rumfords knew the best families of Europe had not come over on the Mayflower.
>tfw no qt3.14 homemaker Latina descended from Spanish nobility
>Back in Augusta, I found plenty to keep me occupied. Good intelligence work was the first requirement for security in the New World Disorder, and while my staff was good, they tended to get lost in the weeds. Intel types always do. I needed to be involved personally to ask the man from Mars questions that sometimes draw meaning from mere information.
This is a valid point, however, Lind's absolute disdain for depth of intelligence irritates me. You have intel guys to tell you beyond what newspapers can tell you about the situation and provide details which better illuminate the situation.
Ree, gentlemen, ree.
>The next couple years saw order re-established in the Mid-Atlantic and Midwestern states, sometimes bloodily, more often not, as sources of disorder were given the option to repent or die. The biggest source of disorder had been the blacks, but inspired by what our blacks in the N.C. had done, the good ones took their communities back. Then, most of them followed our example and left the cities to become farmers. They knew there was no other way they could rear their children in a healthy environment, physically healthy and morally healthy.
The Turner Diaries is probably less insulting to black people than things like this.
>Most Mexicans and Central Americans headed home. All the states passed laws forbidding the preaching, practice, or profession of the Mohammedan religion. Regular crime became rare as hanging became the usual penalty, at least where violence was involved. We remembered that if you hang a thief when he's young, he won't steal when he's old.
Outstanding.
>>30599024
>Lind's absolute disdain for depth of intelligence irritates me.
Clausewitz disdained intelligence, and he was Prussian. Checkmate, mein herr.
>>30599024
Draco of Athens, the man who gave us the adjective "draconian", once was asked why he punished both thievery and murder with death.
His (paraphrased) response was: "For theft, I know of no more fitting punishment. For murder, I cannot think of a harsher punishment"
>>30599024
>Mohammedan religion
Got-damn Musulmen.
>>30598782
and reading further, it looks like the nazis are defeated and we kind of get a pass... WI recovers?
am I to assume the high population of german immigrants to the area saved us in lind's mind?
danke
>>30599086
old-timey religious slurs are fun. for example:
Lind is a papist cur, and his self-insert Kraft is romish agent designed to remove the Bible from the priesthood of all believers and hand a false, sole authority over ecclesial matters back to that Whore of Babylon known as Rome.
>>30599167
Rumford is High-Church Anglican, actually
>>30599155
That and the 4th Reich cleared out that Black-Jewish stronghold of Chicago before it collapsed.
>>30599178
so he's a smells-and-bells crypto-Catholic.
if you couldn't tell, my personal heroes include Martin Luther, John Calvin, Zwingli, Melancthon, Hus, Wycliffe, etc.
>>30599024
>All this made my life easier. By the end of 2037, a wild-eyed optimist might have allowed himself to think that the lone Teutonic knight, order, had a fighting chance against Old Night. In all of North America, there was only one place where things were still getting worse: California.
Prepare your sides.
>When the American republic blew itself to pieces in 2027, the Hispanics promptly seized southern California, which they had long occupied. They drove the remaining Anglos out, then slaughtered the blacks, who had been slaughtering the Orientals until Korean marines landed at Long Beach to get their people out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyJum-dkkSo
>Northern California had it all. It had resources, timber, and minerals it could sell in Asia. It had high-tech industry. Its farming country remained productive. But the first sign that it would turn itself into a colossal mess came early. In 2028, the government moved the capital from the pleasant and historic city of Sacramento to Berkeley. The stated reason was that Sacramento included the word sacrament, “an exclusive reference to the phallocentric Christian cult.” Berkeley, in contrast, was a shrine to the cultural revolution that broke out in the l960s and, in time, broke apart America.
I know there's the Voltaire quote, but I feel like Lind overdoes it.
>The new venue soon made its spirit felt. Because offices such as state governor were deemed “hierarchical,” northern California—officially now the Azanian Democratic Republic, a name soon unofficially abbreviated to Zany—adopted a popular assembly form of government. There were no officers or committees, all matters being debated and decided by the whole assembly. The assembly itself was vast, more than 1,000 members, the better to ensure democracy. Since, in the time of crisis, men had real work to do, the delegates were soon mostly women.
If only the California men had dive bombers of their own
>>30599204
best. story. ever.
>>30599210
Nah, he hates the Church for Vatican 2.
>>30599221
> But ours were not happy times. Where nature intended comic chaos, ideology produced disciplined fanaticism. The ideology that grabbed hold was radical feminism.
Or retroculture, take your pick.
>By 2030, the Feminists had a solid majority in the Human Gathering, as the assembly was named. Their early actions were a mixture of the predictable and self-satirizing. Women were given preference in all hiring, and the Azanian national flag became a pair of bloomers hoisted up the flagpole.
Can't make this up.
>Ideology, by its nature, demands purity. Any compromise is hypocrisy, weakness, and betrayal. The pursuit of purity can have no limits, least of all limits on the power of the state. Intentions, not results, are the measure of all actions. Where reality contradicts ideology, reality must be suppressed.
But not Retroculture, even though we base our entire society on it, that's completely different
Honestly, this entire description is perhaps nuttier than Cascadian Deep Green, so I'll quote it in full.
>The ideological imperative exposed itself quickly in Azania. In 2031, the assembly was renamed the Womyn’s Gathering and the male members were expelled. Later in the year, men were stripped of the right to vote. Only San Francisco’s homosexuals were exempt as the new law made them “honorary women”.
>>30599267
He could be a member for the Society of Saint Pius X. All the Catholic with none of the Vatican II.
>>30599221
and now it finally hits home. grew up in SF, LA for college. he gets race relations wrong in So Cal, he gets Berkeley wrong, he gets Sacramento wrong, he gets the farming in California wrong.
>>30599267
why would an Catholic who dislikes vernacular masses go to the Anglicans?
>>30599254
We're still gonna drive up to the Dells and shoot each other every summer, bud. You can't stop us.
t. FISH
>>30599269
>2032 saw the beginning of what the feminists called Fair Discrimination. All pretense of equality between the sexes was thrown out. It had never been more than a cloak for power, anyway. Under Fair Discrimination, girls got higher grades in school than boys for the same work, plus a monopoly on the playground while boys spent recess inside where they were forced to play with dolls. All executive positions, including in private businesses, were legally reserved for women. Only women were allowed to be policemen, firemen, judges, attorneys, or clergymen. In all jobs, women received higher pay for comparable work, and where a job required physical labor, the woman was assigned a male secretary to do the heavy lifting while receiving half her pay.
>Men had to pay more to ride the bus or subway. When a male columnist for the San Francisco Chronicle wrote that the government “couldn’t seem to tell the difference between Fair Discrimination and fare discrimination,” he was thrown in Alcatraz for the crime of public sexism and the paper was shut down.
>In 2033, a new law made all sexism, along with ageism and lookism, felonies punishable by imprisonment, “alteration,” or both. Alteration was a euphemism for castration. Conviction required no evidence beyond a woman stating that she had been offended. Only women were permitted to serve on juries.
>In order to break down stereotypes, sumptuary laws were enacted. Pants were reserved for women, and men had to wear skirts. In what was called the “stud muffin amendment,” muscular young men were exempted. Instead, they had to leave their chests bare and wear leather.
>But these measures proved insufficiently pure. Men were reduced to second-class citizens, but they were still there. Their very presence was soon deemed “offensive to women” by the more radical feminists. The only solution was their removal.
>>30599307
>The only solution was removal
Gas chambers?
>>30599307
what the fuck is wrong with this man?
someone must have molested him when he was young
>>30599277
Man, I don't know. The book cold opens on his (Episcopal?) church "Putting faggots to the torch." Maybe Anglicans have a penchant for mission-type orders. I doubt there's sanity to be found here.
>>30599307
>The resistance was led by mothers. Many mothers and prospective mothers, it seemed, liked the idea of having sons as well as daughters. Mothers started marching and protesting. Ten thousand mothers gathered in Berkeley to make their views known. The Gathering turned dogs, fire hoses, and tear gas on them.
>But the radicals realized they had a problem. The solution, as always, was more ideology. First, the radicals slipped frying pans and rolling pins into the Gathering. Then, in the mother of all cat fights, they physically drove their opponents out. The Gathering duly cleansed, the radicals passed a series of new laws called the Gender Purity Acts.
>First, motherhood was outlawed. Any woman who got pregnant was required to get an abortion, regardless of the sex of the baby. Reproduction would henceforth be by cloning. Then, sex between men and women was also outlawed. Only lesbian sex was permitted, though male homosexuality was winked at. Finally, the vote was restricted to “women of full consciousness,” that condition to be determined by precinct committees made up entirely of lesbians.
Lind comes up with the insane post-apocalyptic societies and then utterly wastes any narrative potential they might have.
>When Azania first formed, it had a military similar to those of most former states and state fragments: the old National Guard, some local regular military units and a few militias. The Fair Discrimination laws had reserved all military positions for women and the men had been dismissed. This eliminated at one stroke almost the entire Azanian army. What it left were a variety of women technicians and a cadre of pilots left over from the final senility of the U.S. Air Force, when it had begun training women to fly fighters and bombers. Now, the only real military force the Zany Gathering had was an air force.
Here's what that one guy meant by "lesbian Californian F-35 pilots." At last I truly see
>>30599307
>>30599334
what's worse is that there are people who think that this is in some way a reasonable view of the future.
>>30599335
weirdly enough, the most time i spent around female Christian clergy growing up was when i went to an Episcopalian school for kindergarten-2nd grade.
>>30599307
>In what was called the “stud muffin amendment,” muscular young men were exempted. Instead, they had to leave their chests bare and wear leather.
Oh fuck I can't stop laughing. Just a country of male strippers in assless chaps and oiled up chests doing all the public service jobs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X9tBHX_Fl4
This but a country. Holy shit my sides.
>>30599348
it's like he read the plot synopsis for Y: The Last Man once then filtered it through grouchy old man glasses.
also as a professional fighter aviator, i'm wondering what sort of neo-luddite pablum he comes up with next.
>>30599307
>Instead, they had to leave their chests bare and wear leather.
Manowar must have felt right at home.
>>30599348
>So it used it. On July 4, 2037, opponents of the Gender Purity Acts gathered on the lawn of the old State House in Sacramento. They rallied to demand universal suffrage and a restored state government like the one they used to have. They were husbands and wives and kids, grandmothers and babies in prams, armed with nothing more dangerous than signs, petitions, and sparklers.
>The rally began at noon. At just a quarter after, two F-35s, formerly of the U.S. Navy, flew over. The first dropped cluster munitions, the second a Fuel/Air Explosive device. Over a thousand people died on the spot.
Naturally, people start to leave, because they have open borders. They don't keep people in like Fuhrer Kraft's Northern Confederation.
>In Berkeley, the Gathering debated what to do about the exodus. On the one hand, a nation without people wouldn’t last very long. On the other, they welcomed the departure of the ideologically impure, the mothers. Borrowing from another Brave New World, they had made “mother” their term of abuse for women who did not share their view of men, a view summed up in Azania’s official motto: “A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle.”
Rev up your cloning program.
>Their ideology informed them that, across north America and around the world, millions of oppressed women were desperate to be free from men. So the Gathering issued a clarion call to feminists everywhere to come to Azania, the world’s first “Man-free Zone.” And come they did, by the thousands. Soon, the inflow of feminists exceeded the outflow of normal people. Azania, it seemed, would represent ideology’s long-sought triumph: a triumph over human nature itself.
Nope. No lesbian clone army, sadly
> I couldn’t imagine our own women getting a case of the zanies. Oh, we had a few. Maine’s Episcopal “bishop,” Ms. Cloaca Devlin, was one.
>Cloaca Devlin
Even now, 40+ chapters in, Lind still manages to surprise me.
Anyone feeling like he's leaving power vacuums all over North America larger than a whores anus? It's almost like him and Kraft are living the, "We did it Patrick, we saved the city!" Meme even though only God knows what takes its place. I mean it too, this faggot should know what happened to every damned country who's country was taken out.
>I'm also now /r/ing Linds head and some Prussian cosplayers head photoshoped over Patrick and SpongeBob with that exact quote. Representation of Kraft over Patrick obviously.
>>30599371
>>30599387
It's like Six String Samurai or something, isn't it
>>30599380
If you could post a timestamp, that would be great.
It's amazing how Lind has managed to piss off the entire spectrum of /k/ users
>>30599437
I'm not pissed off. The sheer what the fuck has caused me to transcend mad. I'm through to the other side. It's full of retard.
>>30599422
Back in the writefag explosion, someone put forth the idea that Bill Kraft did not exist, and Rumford was general staff member whose mind broke and started creating fantasies as the federals finished with China and quickly crushed his Maple Republic with smart bombs and combined arms in a week.
>>30599437
>It's amazing how Lind has managed to piss off the entire spectrum of /k/ users
Its why I love these threads. We've had residents of every region, amateur literary critics, big blue arrow guys, history buffs and people with experience in small scale stuff all jump down his throat at some point.
>>30599404
>Cloaca Devlin
The fuck kind of name is that? Sounds like the name of some side character from a Gundam show.
>>30599526
A cloaca is a snake vagina
>>30599526
I'd like to say that there would be no way even they would name a kid "Bird Genitals" buuuuuttttttt Quattro Bajeena.
>>30599526
Lind would love Zion. Dropping a colony on Detroit is pretty 4th Gen desu
>>30599437
yeah hold on, i'll grab my checklist and timestamp it.
>>30599565
I feel like Mobile Suits embody everything Lind hates about military tech post 1970.
>>30599526
A cloaca is literally an asshole/genital combination. Fish and birds have them.
I'm sure lind will explain this as some equality thing.
>>30599547
Yeah, I know. But it's still a dumb name.
>>30599557
>>30599565
This entire story would be more interesting if it invovled giant robots and colony drops. The best part is that the setting is so ridiculous that they wouldn't be out of place in the slightest.
>>30599592
You know he would be using Zaku's to destroy Gundams because Zaku's are reliable, easy to maintain and suited for REAL space combat.
>>30599623
Nono, Zakus are newfangled claptrap that have no place on a real battlefield.
Space!Victoria would use mobile worker pods.
>>30599404
>But I had miscalculated about the Northern Confederation’s women. They were deeply interested in what was going on in Azania. They were interested and appalled. In their eyes, Azania represented the ultimate degradation of women, worse even than the whorehouse or the female soldier or the crooner who in the old American Republic had dared to call herself “Madonna.” Marriage and motherhood represented women’s highest calling, and in Azania women had turned their back on both. They felt something had to be done.
Fuhrer Kraft has some pretty good reeducation camps.
>When spring came and the roads were again passable, women began making their rounds, gathering signatures. Their goal was a ballot referendum on the question, “Resolved, that the Northern Confederation shall undertake any and all actions short of a declaration of war to overthrow the wicked and unnatural feminist government in Azania and return northern California to the civilized world.”
Convenient.
>“Remember, our government is founded on the idea that the people are sovereign. Unlike the old American Republic, we’re serious about that. That’s why we have the referendum process and a weak central government. If our women can convince a majority of voters that we should intervene in Azania, then we probably should. If I thought we were putting our national existence at stake, I might feel differently, but I don’t see that in this case.”
This seems like a pretty bizarre position for someone who opposes the Iraq War.
>“Azania has nuclear weapons,” I warned.
Things will get pretty dumb soon enough, Oppenheimer.
>>30599655
And guntanks because space combat is a meme.
>>30599691
>>30599691
>The church returned to its unpleasant duty of putting newtypes to the torch
>>30599680
>The radical feminists drove their opponents out and brought more women like themselves in to replace them. The whole country is made up of True Believers. In time, of course, you are correct: all ideologies fall in time, because eventually reality reasserts itself. But where the whole population has caught the ideology bug, that time will probably be measured not in years but in generations.” [Kraft said]
And Retroculture is totally different
>“Think of the damage the French Revolution did, not only to France, but to all the West. In a sense, Azania is its final and most bitter product. It is part of the price paid for the Duke of Brunswick’s fatal decision at Valmy.”
>Bill had told me about that before. More than once. “Hier schlagen wir nicht.” With those words the Duke lost the chance to strangle the French Revolution and “The Rights of Man” in their cradle. That was exactly what I was saying now: we’re not going to fight this one.
Gratuitous German Quotes: 25
Sip your Sam Adams.
>“Start planning a campaign. I expect the referendum will get on the ballot and pass handily. I certainly wouldn’t want to tell Mrs. Kraft I voted against it.”
I would guess that it will win 83% of the referendum.
>“They’ve been building it up as fast as they can. They’ve gone the high-tech route, the stuff the U.S. military was losing itself in toward the end. Information warfare, computerized systems of systems, remote sensors, stealth. They believe technology can tell them everything an enemy is doing and allow them to hit him with stand-off weapons. Push-button warfare.”
I misjudged. He doesn't go full Sprey until the next chapter.
>“With what, Bill?” I asked plaintively. “The referendum says we should do everything short of declaring war. Where am I supposed to find troops?”
>“In the Vendee.”
The Vendee, as Lind explains next chapter, was a province of France that remained loyal to the King during the Revolution.
>>30599732
>>30599723
>>30599691
>>30599623
>>30599655
My sides. Careful lads
>>30599580
let it never be said that i don't deliver
>>30599764
>The rights of man
>A mistake
HOLY SHIT I'M MAD
>>30599764
Things Lind is assblased about:
>Peace of Westphalia
>French Revolution
>Gulf War
>MC2k2
>Invasion of Iraq
>Magna Carta (Probably)
>Diesel engines
>Transistors
>A robot Allah Ackbar'ing an active shooter
>>30599820
>transistors
I'm surprised that Lind hasn't written in some country EMP'ing the US. Which of course would cause the Vickies to stomp all over everything. That seems like something that would work in his addled mind.
>>30599820
hahahaah
>windows 95
>the fall of constantinople
>wireless networks
>the "save" button
>the smoking ban in bars
>the allies in WW2
>interstates
>>30599864
Considering how common an EMP is in patriot/prepper wank fiction, I'm surprised too.
All the talk about Gendum in Lindsanity Land has me inspired.
I shall deliver some sort of writefaggotry later tonight.
did Lind ever say which character was his gratuitious self-insert?
>>30600005
My bet is that its secretly Kraft
>>30599993
White God bless this thread.
>>30600066
some anon asked him on his website.
>>30598327
>comparing Cardneas with these filth
At least Maximilan died here, unlike that fucker in switzerland
Anyone interested on beter historical revolution text with at least one true german in it i recomend
Ochomil kilometros en campaña
La guerra secreta en Mexico (The secret war in Mexico)
BTW can you resume why the Rommel infantry tactics are wrong
>>30600099
And what did the fucker say?
>>30600159
so far, silence. it's on a site called American Conservative or something, and it's everybody else calling him out as a retard for supporting Trump and """"""""4GW"""""""""
>>30597917
>Anyone that thinks otherwise is a silly broad whom we will kill with dive bombers.
How quickly you forget about burning at the stake
>>30599873
>Interstates
Nah, Eisenhower was inspired by Nazi Germany's roads to create the interstate system, so they're good. It's cars that are the problem. Just walk them, like The Road.
>>30600245
>silence from Lind
>called out by fans for suggesting it
sounds to me like its a distinct possibility then
>>30600245
Got a link to the comments?
Chapter 43: Full Sprey
>The English had raised a French Royalist army from the Vendee. Bill Kraft was telling me to recruit my army from among the Azanian refugees.
What our favorite murderous fattie meant.
>But history told me something more.
Oh boy
>The army the British cobbled together from among the French Royalists was a defeat waiting to happen. It was torn by factionalism and petty jealousies, commanded by incompetents who thought rank was leadership and motivated by regrets and recriminations. The French Revolutionary army kicked its butt clear out of Europe.
Which was conveniently not the case for the Cascadian rebels
>That Royalist army was the prototype of all exile armies. The Whites in the Russian Revolution, the Chinese Nationalists, the anti-Castro Cubans, the Iraqi exiles who lured America into that quagmire were all cast in the same mold.
I could have sworn that the issue with the Chinese nationalists was that they were bled white fighting the Japanese and engaged in harsh scrounging of supplies from local villagers while the fuggin gommunists bided their time.
And I don't think anyone outside of the wildest conspiracy theories blames Iraqi exiles for getting into Gulf Wars 2: Attack of the Drones, though I could certainly be wrong here.
>Maybe Bill Kraft thought it sufficient to train would-be soldiers in sound tactics and techniques. I knew that for trained men to become an army took much more. It took cohesion, motivation, and belief in a cause strong enough to sacrifice ego on the altar of Mars. I hadn’t a clue how we could find or create those virtues among the Azanian exiles.
I can't believe Rumford straight up disagrees with Kraft on something.
>>30600438
Good thing for Rumsford and Kraft every single problem they face has a 1:1 historical analogue they both know intimately. It's almost like Lind can't support his own bullshit with a hypothetical or innovative solution but has to ignore history to retrofit events into his own world view.
>>30600438
>In April, 2038, the Northern Confederation General Staff numbered 23 officers and one NCO. Ten officers were assigned to the General Staff in Augusta and the rest to the field forces. Of the ten in Augusta, four were on leave—spring planting—so the group that gathered on the 20th in the General Staff ready room was six officers, plus myself, plus Danielov, our single Staff Sergeant on the General Staff. By our standards, that was a large meeting.
I'm genuinely curious what the rank structure of the Northern Confederation Armed Forces looks like.
> how could we find or create an army to retake Azania for civilization,
If you were thematically consistent, you would work with the locals within the bounds of the local culture and give them mission-type orders to accomplish tasks in the manner they think will work best.
>and how should that army fight a high-tech opponent?
With T-34s and long-wave radars, because stealth is a meme
>I turned to our intel officer, Major Erik Walthers, to explain. “The Azanian military has realized the wet dream of the French Army of the 1930s,” Walthers explained. “The whole thing has been reduced to artillery and forward observers. The artillery is high-tech, with stealth bombers, missiles, and logic bombs to hit enemy computer systems, and the FOs are automated sensors, but the concept is the same. The centralized headquarters is now banks of computers, a fusion center that automatically targets any enemy the sensors detect. It’s the same crap the Pentagon was pushing in the 1990s. The U.S. Marine Corps called it ‘Sea Dragon,’ the Army called it ‘Force 21’ and the Air Force called it ‘Global Reach, Global Power.’ Or collectively, ‘Transformation.’”
Sounds like a rather tough nut to crack.
>“Why have they gone this way?” Ross asked.
>“Because it's the only way women can fight,” answered Danielov.
Never mind. lol women.
>>30600245
TAC commenters are just as likely to shit on the columnists as they are to praise them.
I should know; I've shit on Hartnung, Vlahos, and Lind himself every time they talk about F-35 under the moniker 'LMIDF.'
>>30599680
>This seems like a pretty bizarre position for someone who opposes the Iraq War.
It's retarded as fuck regardless
>feminists set up feminist republic
>normal people leave
>feminists enter
>republic now made up entirely of feminists who approve of system
>maplefags blow them up with dive-bombing fishing trawlers armed with nuclear mortars and .50 cals welded to them that they rented from Uganda for a '57 Studebaker
>???
>profit
>>30600537
>“The Azanians have a few battalions of what they call infantry,” Walthers said. “They’re recruited from among the bull dykes. As you can imagine, they’re not anything we would recognize as infantry. Their actual function is as security guards for airfields, computer centers and headquarters.”
Lind, you so crazy
>“How effective is Azania’s high-tech military?” I asked Walthers.
Prepare your sides.
>“It can hit stationary targets if it can find them,” he replied. “It can easily drop a bomb or put a missile on a building. It’s deadly against large concentrations of troops camped in the open or caught moving in columns on the roads.”
Sounds like it would kick ass if your strategic mobility takes the form of trains.
>“But that’s all it can do. Camouflage defeats it, deception defeats it, digging in and dispersion both defeat it. You’ll take some attrition, of course. The easiest ways to beat it are stay dug in, like the Serbs in Kosovo, or move too fast and covertly for it to track. But the latter is difficult.”
I don't necessarily agree with some of the technocratic conclusions reached by some people about OAF; but, having written several papers about it in college, the impact of airpower was absolutely non-trival (and not in the sense that airpower was the primary combat arm involved). A lot of NATO's problems came from poor battle damage assessments. And saying, "Oh, it didn't go as smoothly as optimistic initial assessments predicted" is a disingenous position.
>“The whole high-tech warfare business was an extension of the propaganda about Desert Storm,” Walthers said. “By the late '90s anyone who followed the literature knew the initial claims from Desert Storm were bullshit. But if the lie is big enough, the truth never catches up. Azania has swallowed the lie. I think that is to our advantage.”
Lind is in outright denial about Desert Storm. Like "LALALA, I'M NOT LISTENING!" denial.
>>30600713
>“It can easily drop a bomb or put a missile on a building. It’s deadly against large concentrations of troops camped in the open or caught moving in columns on the roads.”
Sooo the WWII style dive bombers he was praising during that pointless war with the Chinese/Hippies?
>>30600784
That's asymmetric 4GW, this is techo-attritional 2GW
>>30600713
I want to believe he's self aware how retarded his ideas are and thus wrote this whole thing as satire. i don't want to deal with the alternative.
>>30600864
Are you sure? Cuz it's been feeling like operator wet dream SHTF for awhile now.
>>30600713
>Lind is in outright denial about Desert Storm. Like "LALALA, I'M NOT LISTENING!" denial.
This is the reaction of a man who just had all of his preciously crafted ideas shattered by reality, but refuses to admit it and instead doubles down on the retardation.
>>30600713
>“By the late '90s anyone who followed the literature knew the initial claims from Desert Storm were bullshit.
Which is why it played out literally the same way again in 2003, only even more overwhelmingly one-sided?
>The centralized headquarters is now banks of computers, a fusion center that automatically targets any enemy the sensors detect
I'm not clear if he thinks fusion centers actually take humans out of the decisionmaking cycle entirely or is just taking networking to the logical extreme in order to tear it down.
>>30600816
The worst part is, thanks to this thread, I understand that sentence.
>>30598588
I haven't been following, where did they even get all of this russian weaponry?
>>30601371
the Tsar. yes, for real
seriously lind is such a hack
does he seriously think russia will revert to a state with a literal tsar just because "everything old is new again"?
>>30601371
Why from the Tzar of course.
>>30601371
In the Lindiverse Russia is an expansionist theocracy so their Tsar (!) sent the Vickies a shit-ton of materiel when they broke off from the US.
>>30601387
Well, we have Imperial Japan again. For no reason. Because a hugely successful nation just reverts to imperialism because 4th Gen I guess
>>30601421
also the aztecs
seriously it's like lind has no ability to even intelligently guess at what the future looks like, so he just says "hey it'll look just like the past!"
>>30601421
Japan still has an Emperor, so technically all they'd have to do to revive the IJN is abrogate article 9 and change the JMSDF's letterhead
It's still far fetched but much more plausible than the Romanovs regaining power in Russia
>>30601443
Neo-Aztecs, raiding The Grand Banks for white slaves to sacrifice to the space hummingbird god. I miss them.
>>30597489
>Trains were always “she,” which was odd since they were supposed to be on time.
Goddamn man. I've been annoyed a few times when my mom would be late for something too, but I've never seen someone consistently sperg out about women for this long.
>>30601500
It's easy to blame women for things when you haven't had any sexuals in the last 40yrs my man.
>>30600713
>“Azania has four operable B-2s, about 20 F-117s, and around 50 F-35s,” O'Hearn said. “Thanks to the fact that our Russian friends never throw anything away, we’ve gotten our hands on some of their old long-wave radars. They were built in the 1950s, and they pick up stealth perfectly. The F-117s can’t reach the N.C., and if they send any B-2s our way, I’ll have F-16s on 'em long before they reach our borders.”
God damn. It's like one of those Sprey parody posts.
>“What about the F-35s?”
Get ready to be asspained, Mr. Fight Pilot
>“They are horrible air-to-air fighters. They have a higher wing loading than the F-105, and less than a 1:1 thrust-to-weight ratio. They're Thuds. Our long-wave radars will pick them up. We’ll use GCI to vector in for visual kills with Sidewinders and guns. And remember, we’re facing women pilots.”
Because BVR is a meme. And they have this trick up their sleeves to beat AMRAAMS
>“Formation effects.” Every radar-guided missile ever built was a sucker for enemy fighters flying a box or diamond formation. They all went for the centroid.
Something tells me that Lind is completely full of shit
>“OK, it’s obvious you’re on top of the air side,” I said. “What about their sensors?”
This is going to somehow be more retarded
>“Go to it,” was my order. In the Vietnam War, the high-tech “McNamara Line” had tried to catch NVA infiltrators with sensors so sophisticated they could distinguish human from animal aromas. The North Vietnamese foxed them by hanging buckets full of piss in the trees. Most fancy sensors had simple counters. But Ron was right: you first had to know how they worked.
Sounds like fuddlore to me
In addition, an accurate picture of William Lind
>>30601554
Or ever. That's my guess
>>30601500
Man, having grown up in a house with three women this could totally be a decent joke if it wasn't surrounded by insane shit and Lind had shown anything but disgust toward women.
>>30601500
I'm as much of a misogynist shitlord as anyone on /k/, but Lind's attitude towards women genuinely offends me. Even the fucking Turner Diaries included a positive and competent female character
>>30601563
oh fuck this
>>30601563
>They are horrible air-to-air fighters. They have a higher wing loading than the F-105, and less than a 1:1 thrust-to-weight ratio. They're Thuds.
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>Sounds like fuddlore to me
it is. Sounds like he's thinking of the seismic sensors they had MACV-SOG guys planting on the HCM trail, but the problem with those was a matter of figuring out what the fucking noise meant, not any shit about piss.
>>30601563
>Thrust to weight ratio
>In AMRAAM fights
I hope F-15-san stops by to confirm my suspicions that this is fucking stupid.
>>30601563
>Our data dink, Capt. Christian Patel, grinned. I knew the N.C. military wasn’t vulnerable to information warfare, because I had forbidden it to own or use computers. That was the only real electronic security, plus it kept people thinking about the enemy instead of some damned system. The one exception was Patel’s department: Offensive Information Warfare, or as it was usually known, the Goatscrew Office.
An Indian techie, of course.
I love how their ECCM capacity is "we have no computers lol"
>“We’re already having fun,” Patel said. “We started hacking their system the day after I heard about the petition drive. Info war against women is more fun than a hog-calling contest in Pakistan. They talk all the time, they can’t keep a secret and they’re conspiratorial, so when we mess something up they blame each other. It’s the first time I’ve ever seen hair pulled electronically.”
Oh no, hackers on steroids! Ready the party van.
>“Thanks to the power shortage, almost everything has been de-computerized. Most communication is by mail. Banks rely on ledgers, as do businesses. Transport is horses and steam locomotives, neither of which find much use for data. The area that gets hydropower from Niagara Falls is a partial exception, but the power system itself has put in manual back-up for its computerized systems. I would recommend they switch to that before we open hostilities.”
Why do people want to trade with these fucktards?
>Walthers replied. “Their missiles are short range, and missiles are only useful against fixed targets.”
Someone is in complete denial about the Maverick and Hellfire
>“OK then, what about the big question: how do we fight this bunch of Amazons?” I asked.
I can't wait.
>>30601563
The Mcnamara Line used thermal sensors to detect body head and acoustic sensors to detect ground vibrations (such as marching feet, or charlie stepping on a landmine) in order to gather data on NVA troop movements. It didn't have fucking smell sensors, that's completely retarded.
>>30601500
I've been reading this so long and have become so hardened to this sort of shitlordery that I actually skipped over that one.
Lind is so far out there that he makes me, something of a shitlord, seem like a pinko SJW.
>>30601716
>“OK then, what about the big question: how do we fight this bunch of Amazons?” I asked.
inb4 magical realm
>I knew the N.C. military wasn’t vulnerable to information warfare, because I had forbidden it to own or use computers.
has Lind ever heard the term "EMCON suicide"? because this seems like an extreme version of it
>>30601716
Is the implication (true white) CHRISTIAN Patel just sent some emails complaining about Cindy's hair to the wrong people?
>>30601754
What a fitting end it would be Rumford, for all his hardcore mysogyny, to be killed in the form of "death by snu-snu"
>>30601716
Am I wrong in thinking that an utter lack of computers means that there will be an utter lack of hackers learning their trade? (read as: nobody to draw the second generation of e-warriors from)
>>30601834
Apparently Lind thinks the Vickies will destroy all the straw men who use computers, making that a moot point. Because the Middle Ages were such a great time, his heroes will force everyone into that.
Of course, that's all horseshit, but this is Lind we're talking about.
>>30601834
That would make sense, but we're living in a world of Lindsanity
>>30601790
>"You may recall that old patriarchal militaries used to allow their soldiers three days to rape the enemy's womyn after taking a town," the oiled lieutenant in the assless chaps said, cutting off Rumsford in the middle of reciting his serial number
>"Have you ever heard of retroculture?" the Azanian interrogation officer beside him asked conversationally, as she buckled the strap-on around her hips.
>"We find it has a wide range of applications."
>>30601933
kek
>>30601716
>“With infantry.” The reply was from Major Van der Jagd, our tank specialist. “Light infantry, on foot, on bicycles, and on dirt bikes. The largest unit should be a platoon, which is too small for high-tech systems to find, target, and hit, especially if it keeps moving. It doesn’t have to be very good infantry, since there won’t be any infantry facing it. Low-quality militia can do most of the job, which is stomping sensors and scaring women. We’ll need a few high quality units to cut through quickly to the key targets: airfields and missile storage sites, computer centers and headquarters. Dano, can your guys handle that?”
And then they get hit with a Hellfire from a drone watching on thermals.
>“What this sound like to me is essentially a large-scale Special Operation,” I concluded. “The militia absorbs the attention of their centralized, computerized system, while we slip in a few small units to bring that system down by hitting its central nodes. Does that make sense?”
It really doesn't
>The railroad now ran to Hartland, as it had many years ago. Cousin John met me at the station with his wagon, which we needed to haul all the books I’d brought with me up to the farm. While every military situation is unique, none is wholly so, and I wanted time and quiet to study some campaigns with similarities to ours: Von Lettow-Vorbeck in German East Africa, T.E. Lawrence against the Turks, the Tet Offensive from the North Vietnamese side.
Which will of course be 100% applicable
>Maria met us at the door, welcomed me home, and said she had dinner ready for John and me both. Her manner was friendly but also formal, as befitted both her heritage and her present position. That came as a relief, as it would help keep some distance between us even at close quarters. I expect she knew that.
Ew, cooties
>>30601999
>The largest unit should be a platoon, which is too small for high-tech systems to find, target, and hit, especially if it keeps moving.
What the fuck does Lind think FLIR does? There are plenty of guncam vids of talib platoon sized elements getting their shit pushed in with 30mm.
>Maria met us at the door, welcomed me home, and said she had dinner ready for John and me both. Her manner was friendly but also formal, as befitted both her heritage and her present position. That came as a relief, as it would help keep some distance between us even at close quarters. I expect she knew that.
Literal autism.
>>30601999
>dem trips
Also, this stuff makes my crazy-ass crossover fanfiction look like Yeats or Kipling. Fucking amazing, and not in a good way at all.
>>30601999
>which is too small for high-tech systems to find, target, and hit, especially if it keeps moving
Yeah, see, about that.. You're advancing into their defenses, not the other way round
>>30601563
>>30601716
oh lord.
F-15E guy. let's just say GCI and heaters only means you're not going to last long against a competent air force. we practice against enemies like what he's describing daily. and yes, he's full of shit but to reveal more is potentially classified. but i can guarantee that Lind is stuck in the 1960's technologically.
also he's forgetting that the F-16 is a heavily computerized jet. it can't fly without the flight control computer.
>>30601999
>John took the horses to the barn, curried them, and fed them while I unloaded the wagon.
And we're supposed to believe that a country that relies on a local rail network and horses can conduct a military campaign on the other side of the continent.
>Yet as the days went on, Maria showed me there was more to it than that. Despite my books, I could still see no solution to my problem. In the best of times, California had not been famous for its martial vigor—if the United States had been Europe, California would have been Italy—and now I was supposed to create an army from Californian men who had run away from women.
I chuckled a little
>On the evening of April 7th, after a fine omelet of six fresh eggs, potatoes, and onions, Maria brought me my usual apple brandy and cigar, on a small silver tray. But instead of retiring to the kitchen to eat her own meal, she pulled out a chair and sat down opposite me.
I love a girl that's a good homemaker as much as the next guy, but Lind's utter disdain towards women implies that he was masturbating furiously while writing passages like this.
>“Señor John, you have spoken to me of your great difficulty in finding an army for this war against the crazy women. As a woman, I understand nothing about how to fight a war. But there is something women do know that men do not always understand.”
>“What is that, Maria?”
>“Men fight when women want them to.”
At this point, if you were expecting a highbrow reference to the Lysistrata, you would be...
>I took a few minutes to think about that. Years ago, I’d heard the Israeli military historian Martin van Creveld explain why war exists: because men like to fight and women like fighters. As a Marine, I knew men liked to fight. But I’d never really thought much about the second part, probably because I was too busy fighting.
... utterly disappointed
![Soldaderas-The-Women-of-the-Mexican-Revolution-MainPhoto[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/SXs0Ywo.jpg "Soldaderas-The-Women-of-the-Mexican-Revolution-MainPhoto[1].jpg")
>>30598327
Just leaving this here dont mind me
>>30602093
>Israeli military historian Martin van Creveld
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja_cUS222pc
>>30602089
also i guarantee that he hasn't given a though to the logistics train generated by a fighter. there's no way that steampunk wonderland can support a competitive 4th gen fighter in whatever-the-hell year it is - 2040? the design is ancient at this point, and like any machine they're going to start falling apart more as they age. the newest F-16s are early 90's. they can't target the F-35s, they likely can't take off, and sheer attrition has probably brought down their 18 inherited F-16s and similar number of F-15C's to probably 4 of each. that is, if they have anyone who can fly or fix them. they're Argentina trying to menace England with a fleet of rusty A-4s against a full squadron of Typhoons.
and F-16s are notoriously short-legged. how the hell does he expect them to get to the other coast when even the F-15E needs to be refueled several times?
>>30602222
I assume through the power of LIGHT RAIL!!!1!11!
This book easily takes the cake for the worst book in print. It is even worse than that damn Patriots book, which I had unfortunately bought myself.
>>30602093
So, Rumford needs a way to get some California nu-males to take up arms against their womyn oppressors
>“I do not know,” she replied. “But I helped your sisters and your mother and aunts carry the petition for the referendum from door to door, here around Hartland. One woman we visited said her sister was a member of the Council of Conscience, the group of women who coordinated the petitions. She heard her say that they were corresponding with some of the women among the Azanian exiles. Perhaps they could help you.”
How convenient. He decides to go to Boston and meet this Council of Conscience.
>Mrs. Bingham again welcomed me and introduced me around the room. Some names were from the history books—Mrs. Thomas Weld, Mrs. John Cabot, Mrs. Russell Sage, Mrs. William Schermerhorn—and others were new to me. But all were ladies, in hats and gloves and some, in the cool of a Boston spring, wearing those little fox stoles with the head and beady little glass eyes. No stringy-haired, horse-faced, jeans-clad professorettes here.
Well yeah. You stabbed them to death a few chapters ago.
>Then there were éclairs and coffee and, for me, a cognac and a Davidoff Churchill. “We do hope you smoke, Captain,” Mrs. Weld said. “We so enjoy the aroma of a good cigar.”
Cringing t b h
>“Yes, Captain, we are [in communication with some Azanian women],” Mrs. Cabot finally said. “Some of their women heard of our effort and wrote to us. We wrote back. At our urging, they have formed Committees of Correspondence, and we have communicated our progress to them. We thought that if our initiative passes, we would need some type of support out there. I hope we have not done anything wrong.”
Like the American Revolution. Geddit?
So clever. Much analogies.
>>30602093
>As a Marine, I knew men liked to fight. But I’d never really thought much about the second part, probably because I was too busy fighting.
This is FUCKING HORSESHIT. Every motherfucker who walks into a Marine recruiting office picks up on the idea that dress blues will get you laid. Throughout your training and enlistment it gets repeated that real Marines go out and get laid. Half the Goddamn Corps had a long term girlfriend/spouse break up with them when they were deployed for six months to a year and the other half married them before they got a chance. If you spend 10+ years in the Corps and never think about why it appeals to women or getting married because "I seen things you people wouldn't understand" you're a fucking autistic faggot. And not the gay kind of faggot.
>>30602271
Lind was never in the military but I'm sure the Marines were good Christian boys in his day
>>30599782
>>30602089
>>30602222
Witnessed, also
>mfw an actual fighter pilot is reading these threads and shitting on Lind
>>30602222
it would have been kind of cool if they ended up falling back on more antique but cheap to maintain slavshit multiroles like Fishbeds or Fencers
>>30602320
They should be using some sort of super-duper Flanker t b h
Knowing Lind, they'd probably be using La-7s as their fighter of choice and Po-2s for ground attack
>>30602368
I'm surprised the Victorian Air Force isn't just two dozen A-10s
>>30602299
No, they weren't. Anyone who has met a 'Nam vet or even read a book knows that the Corps was always a wretched hive of scum and villainy. Yeah, even in my day (08-12) we had our share of hardcore Christians but it was mostly your boys standing outside the door shitfaced cheering you on as you fucked a Ukrainian whore in a port town.
>>30602264
>“Thank you very much,” I replied. “But I am not at all certain that sending women to a war zone is consistent with what the Northern Confederation represents. War is properly a man’s business. Bombs and missiles will be falling in the Rocky Mountains as soon as the Azanian feminazis figure out what we’re up to. Men’s duty is to keep that sort of thing away from their women, not send women into it.”
>“Captain, no woman in this room has any illusion that women can be soldiers,” Mrs. Bingham replied. “But that is not my intention. You will never see me in camouflaged fatigues, unless a floral print dress counts as such when working in the garden. But as the people who have brought on this war, we also have duties to perform in it. The women of London and Berlin did their duty under bombs and missiles, as I dare say did the women of Hanoi. We aren’t sissies, Captain. If you think we are, I invite you to join us at a sale in Filene's basement. I tell you, I’m going.”
This is a particularly cringeworthy chapter.
>Not wishing to seem less bellicose than their women, [the husbands] pushed the referendum through to victory with an overwhelming 86 percent.
Wow, not 83%
>The eternal war between men and women was about to become the shooting kind.
Gas the womyn, gender war now!
>The Rocky Mountain Confederation had consented to let us use their territory as a base, even though it guaranteed they would suffer missile and air strikes from Azania. They were also a Christian nation, and regarded Azania as the perversion it was.
How convenient. Has anyone else noted that there are a lot of Confederacies?
>All they asked from us was air defense, since they had only a handful of operable fighters. The Boys from Utica were already deploying their ground crews and antique, anti-stealth long-wave radars. F-16s would soon follow.
Why did they even agree to this? Plot fiat, it seems.
>>30602133
I assume you have a problem with van Creveld. Why's that?
>>30602368
La-7s? To modern Friend, you get a Yak-1 and you like it.
Actually, I'm surprised the NC navy doesn't have at least one Swordfish. After all, they 4th GW-ily killed the certainly 2nd GW Bismark.
Oh wait, never mind, the Bismark was German,
I'm surprised the NC navy hasn't raised the Bismark.
>>30602320
if California did manage to keep F-35s flying against old Russian jets, then NC air is even more dead. but even a MiG-21 needs maintenance. sure, less than some other aircraft. but still needs it. just the nature of turbofans.
honestly the all-piston engine air force makes more sense given the year and the societal collapse.
>>30602507
Don't they have a base/ally literally an hour up the I-5 in Cascadia?
>>30602425
My dad tells a story about when he was a Green Beret and the time when his buddies dragged him to a whorehouse in Thailand. He didn't fuck any whores because he promised my mom that he wouldn't bring back VD, so he played cards with the mama-san and a few girls while his buddies fucked their way through everyone else.
Since he's the hardcore Christian chaplain's assistant in pretty much every story he has about the Army, I get the idea that in combat arms of every American force, comradery trumps being the chaste warfighter that only exists in Lindland.
>>30602532
I would've expected "good ol' P-51Ds", but this is Lindland. He would've found "good ol' Me-105s" somewhere, I just fucking know it.
>>30602507
>On May 21st, Mrs. Bingham and 81 other ladies—our 82nd Airborne Division, some wags called it—boarded a Russian Antonov for the trip to Salt Lake City. The Tsar also didn’t think much of a nation of harpies. If the feminists could find international support, so could we.
Like Ben Franklin. Also, the Tsar is once again a man with a great sense of humor.
Anyway, they send these women to publicized speaking locations. This is so the Azanians send cruise-missiles onto these locations. Because they are dumb.
>But the missiles had their usual effect. They made the local people angry and helped our recruiting.
Because, as retarded as Rumford and Kraft are, everyone else is even dumber
>Our radars had been netted into a good GCI system, and we watched six flights of four F-35s each come over the mountains. We positioned two F-16s, flying in trace with a couple miles separation, high and behind each flight of F-35s. The first F-16 drew off the rear pair of F-35s, which were escorts. Then, the second F-16 went for the bomb-carrying F-35s. It was a tactic the North Vietnamese had used with good success against the U.S. Air Force.
>It worked for us, too. In every case, when the lead F-35s came under attack from the second F-16, they had to jettison their bombs in order to maneuver. That was the end of the air strike.
Pic related
>More interesting was what happened next. Once the second F-16 had done its job, the first turned back into the escort while the second continued to mix it up with the bombers. We got what we wanted: furballs where we could gauge the quality of Azania’s female fighter pilots.
lol women, of course
>As expected, they stank. As soon as the unexpected happened, they started to come unglued... Three-dimensional maneuvering—the Boys from Utica made lots of use of the vertical—was more than the female sense of space could handle.
We get it, Lind. You hate women.
>>30602697
Disappointed we won't get a scene of P-47D's swooping in with eight .50s and 5in rockets.
>>30602721
>It ended up a turkey shoot. The F-35 was as bad as its pilots, a real flying piano. We lost one F-16 to a mid-air collision when a befuddled and panicked woman turned into our aircraft. Eleven of the 24 F-35s were shot down, most with cannon fire, and some of those that made it home were pretty shot up. Our guys came back to their bases whooping and hollering.
At this point, ignoring that he admitted to writing this piece of shit, you'd know it's Lind because he's the only faux-Reformer that I know of that calls the JSF a "flying piano"
>The Azanians went back to missiles. By way of revenge, they hit and destroyed the Mormon Temple and Amphitheater in Salt Lake City. Not only did that bring swarms of Mormons to our recruiters, the state of Utah declared war on Azania. That put the superbly trained Mormon Legion at our disposal. I had planned to send military training teams from the N.C. to teach the newly-recruited Azanian exiles and Rocky Mountaineers, but when Utah entered the war they volunteered to take over that task.
This sure is convenient
>Back in Augusta, I felt events were moving well and, more important, quickly. It was time for me to get in on the action. On July 3, with the rest of the General Staff, I boarded an Ilyushin at Portland for Salt Lake City.
End Chapter 43
>>30602721
>>30602757
either the Californians decided that a century of aerial warfare institutional experience was complete bullshit, or Lind is a hack.
and yeah, i know a few female fighter pilots.
>>30602757
>Hit by a nation in the NE
>Retaliate by bombing highly important cultural centers in an uninvolved neighboring state that apparently has a famous expeditionary force
Just end this fucked world, fambruh
>>30602806
I can only imagine how conflicted Lind was with the mormons
>They're white
>They believe in Jesus
>But its the wrong Jesus
>Shit shit shit....
>Oh wait
>They don't allow female priests!
>Definitely good guys...
That will be it for the night.
Only five chapters left!
Many thanks to the 40-70 anons that have shown up over the last two weeks or so.
>>30602862
We finishing this tomorrow? I need to know how much beer I need.
>>30602901
I'd say at least a six pack of Sam Adams.
>>30602806
What's worse is that Rumford magically gets the reins of the Mormon Legion, which should properly be called the "Nauvoo Legion". That would require research on Lind's part, however, and may ruin Lind's fantasy of Utah not having Hill AFB.
>>30602823
>They believe in Jesus
Sure they do.
>>30602901
That's plan. We'll probably need two threads, since this one will probably go into autosage sometime tomorrow.
It's been a wild ride, and I couldn't have done this if it weren't for the kommandos counting on me to bring them some laughter and not leave them hanging
>>30603032
Oh, I know it's a convoluted plot element based in "lmao women right" to give Rumsford control of an elite force that can seek, close with and destroy any tension that might exist in this encounter. Doesn't make Lind less of a hack piece of shit.
>>30603076
>>30602823
I feel the need to post this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVJgmp2Tc2s
Thanks for actually buying this for our amusement
>>30602757
>the superbly trained Mormon Legion
>>30601999
>The largest unit should be a platoon, which is too small for high-tech systems to find, target, and hit
Is this fucking nigger for fucking real? I've seen, like first hand, drones target, and wipe out in detail, platoon sized elements that split into multiple fire team sized elements. It's like this fucking retard has zero concept of how anything remotely related to the military works. I'm legitimately triggered that this fucking garbage even got published. And not haha triggered, I'm actually fucking angry.
>>30603471
Self-published, basically
>it's a Lind thread
>get a "select all trains" captcha
p o t t e r y
>Jews, blacks, Hispanics and feminists fled Wisconsin for Minnesota, running headlong into whites and Asians coming the other way
>concentration camp in Oshkosh
I love this book.
>>30603471
> I'm legitimately triggered that this fucking garbage even got published.
Vanity publishing is a hellava drug, man.
Actually, there's a book out there called How Not To Write A Novel, written by two editors from some big publishing house. I'm starting to think Lind has hit every goddamn chapter.
I think I'll do this again with another book. I kinda want to dust off the Axis of Time novels. Or do something actually good like The Killer Angels.
>>30603600
At this rate, reading something good sounds like a good idea, my man. I read Red Storm Rising not too long ago, and I'm pretty sure /k/ could get some mileage out of "The Soviets would've never done X" while at least enjoying a damn good book.
Or hell. The shittiest Tom Clancy book is miles better than this crap.
>>30597424
japan is kinda wehraboo irl anyway
>>30598365
+1 for based taste, anon.
Christ what a ride, glad I only jumped in on this thread, sounds like the ending will be great
At some point throughout the story, I thought "this kind of shit is why people like me shouldn't write books", guessing that the authorial fiat, lack of editing and general lack of suitability of the author were the main issues.
But then comes
>>30599404
>Cloaca Devlin
and I know that no matter what I may ever write, it just cannot possible be any worse.
>>30599824
Why is there not already one of these for Lind?
>>30600438
The nationalist Chinese were pretty successful for a while in locking down the Reds and it was due to German advisors. I'm surprised Lind isn't all over that.
>>30599511
This is how I prepare for every new thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snTaSJk0n_Y
>>30603471
At this point, C&C Generals is a better prediction of 2020+ warfare. And that had future!Daesh defeating America by turning an orbital weapon against a carrier group and revealing the US had nerve gas.
>>30605409
That was less about the reveal and more about stealing the toxins for their own use.
inb4 irl black sheep incident ;_;
>>30605743
Yeah, it's been over a decade. Still more plausible than legbeards flying stealth fighters right into SAM country undergunned because cooties.
It would explain General Alexander's penchant for particle cannons and super Auroras...
>>30597403
Is this actually interesting, and relevent, to /k/.
I smell bullshit and turbosamefagging.
>>30605783
There are 44 posters, just as many as there generally are in /arg/
>>30605774
Fuck, I miss Generals. GLA were so fun to play, and they actually felt like real terrorists. No "secular rogue-PMC terrorism with railguns and invisible tanks" crap.
>>30605808
Nod wasn't just terrorists
they were a semi-state, semi-religion, semi-corporation
>>30601563
>They were built in the 1950s, and they pick up stealth perfectly.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
THE B2 HAS EXCELLENT LONG WAVE RADAR CHARACTERISTICS DUE TO BEING AN INFINITE FLAT PLATE WITH NO VERTICAL SURFACES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>30605832
It's like if Blackwater & Green Berets became a cult and recruited the taliban and used modern equipment purchased with money from Apple insiders.
Mostly they were a stand-in for Cobra vs. GDI's GI Joes.
>>30605832
I'm pretty sure he's referring to the bad guys in Act of War and Act of Aggression, which fit that description to the tee.
>>30605832
>>30606054
Yeah. Nod is fun, but I want to win with low tech, down and dirty solutions.
>>30600537
>Northern Confederation General Staff numbered 23 officers and one NCO
I... what?
>>30606342
Wait wait, I got this.
The NCO is there to shoot any officer that proposes such ludicrous ideas as "planning" and "logistics" and to stop the officers from being afflicted with that most deadly of twenty first century diseases, competence.
>>30606541
The NCO is Danielov, who was in charge of such special operations successes as "pretend to a be a beer truck and kidnap a bunch of pilots" and "let's get the Texas Rangers to steal a nuke"
>>30602721
>>30602757
Unless I'm missing something 11 out of 24 F-35's were shot down by only 2 F-16's.
I don't think Sprey would write something this retarded.
>>30606862
No, see those F-35's were also being flown by women.
Women, when taken out of their natural habitat of kitchens and parlors become confused and bewildered about the world around them, and get themselves silly ideas about how the world works, usually by hiking up their skirts to show off a bit of ankle and immediately flustering the nearest non-TRUE christian man around her.
This could've been quashed by forgetting about all that silliness about "human rights" and such, but in degenerate 3GW societies like the United States at time of publication, women had silly ideas like work and loving other women, completely blind to the fact that they simply aren't good at either of those things with their lack of manly strength and penises, or inability to read a watch ever.
And so, it should come as no surprise that men in good ol' F-16s -which is already a superior airplane to the F-35- handily shoot them all down, because deep down women simply don't know what they're doing.
>>30599422
>>30600583
I'm bored so I looked up The American Conservative again. It's basically Rod Dreher writing some good, thoughtful columns alongside a bunch of tards like Lind.
Time to create an account!
>>30607492
Fuckin' A plus anon
>>30607492
Now that Billy Boy has passed beyond the paywall event horizon I can't get enough Lindsanity:
https://www.traditionalright.com/the-view-from-olympus-the-lone-shooter-problem/
>In military theory terms, what we see here is one combatant, the 4GW entities, using Auftragstaktik–on a very broad basis–while the other is bound for political reasons to Befehlstaktik. Any guess who has the faster Boyd Cycle? I will put it bluntly: unless the state can also use mission type orders–“Citizens, don’t let a shooter keep on shooting!”–the state’s helplessness before the 4GW lone shooter will grow. And the legitimacy of the helpless state will wither.
>>30607492
Fukken saved
>>30607559
I pretty much read it for Rod and Larrison, although I enjoy Eve Tushnet's occasional film and book reviews.
>>30607642
>https://www.traditionalright.com/the-view-from-olympus-the-lone-shooter-problem/
I thought I was ready. I was definitely not ready for this much concentrated Lindsanity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou6JNQwPWE0
>>30607845
>4GW and Beyond the Infinite
https://www.traditionalright.com/resources/
>Resources
>The traditionalRIGHT staff wish to provide resources and list essential reading material for the Traditionalist in the modern age.
>Imperial and Royal Austro-Hungarian Marine Corps Field Manuals
>These FMs were written by a series of seminars on 4GW which Mr. Lind led before his retirement, mostly made up of US Marine Corps officers. Why were they issued by the Imperial and Royal Austro-Hungarian Marine Corps? Because they could not write official manuals for the US Marine Corps, and also because, as anyone on the traditional right should understand, it is important to keep the old empires alive, even if only as shadows.
>>30608061
Every time I see that picture, then compare it to just about any other picture of Donald Trump, the rigid posture and forced smile looks more and more forced.
That and the more I read from Lind, the more I get the idea he literally cannot shut up about this shit. This is all he says ever, stopping only to ask for regional delicacies in whatever diner he's in.
>>30608121
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>>30608121
Oh man, I never zoomed in. That smile is painful. I can feel it.
>>30608061
Kekd heartily at his synopsis of the "Canon" literature top fucking Wehraboo drivel.
>In the 1940 campaign, the Second and Third Generations clashed head-on, and the Second went down to defeat in six weeks (though the French had more and better tanks than the Germans).
>Select all images with airplanes
Chapter 44:
>An endless, howling rain of cruise missiles had obliterated Salt Lake City’s airport. The tower and hangers were rubble. The terminal building somehow still had one wall standing. Through its gaping windows showed the smoke-blackened artifacts of early 21st century travel, heaped like broken toys in a bad boy’s toy box.
Surely this will cause some problems
>Nonetheless, we landed. Using pushcarts, the Mormons filled holes in the runways as fast as Azanian missiles could make them. All you really need for an airport is a runway. It was the oft-repeated story of high-tech warfare. It kicks the enemy in the shins, not in the head.
Oh who am I kidding?
>The Legion was a first-rate infantry outfit, and we quickly established a good working relationship with them.
They might be heretics, but at least they're men
>Our strength was staff work, so that’s what we did: refine the campaign plan, issue the necessary orders, organize the logistics, schedule the deployments.
>organize the logistics
You must be kidding. You've mission-type ordered them away this entire book but only now are you caring.
>They focused on training our newly recruited troops.
More ASL, I think
>D-Day was set for September 1. But the work went smoothly, despite the Azanian reprisal weapons. The relatively few casualties they caused in the small, dispersed training camps helped harden the troops.
Can't have them terrified or stressed out by the possibility of sudden attack. That would be unrealistic.
>But boys will be boys, and ours didn’t stop with collecting. They started clearing the sensors from key passes. Usually, the devices were poorly camouflaged and easy to find. Women have shitty field craft.
How much do you want to bed that Lind has been furiously masturbating given how much abuse he's been laying on women for the last few chapters.
>>30608303
Remember when they completely crippled Logan International with a mortar strike to the point where F-35s couldn't land? Well, when it happens to Rumsford, all you need is some tractors.
>Select all construction vechicles
>>30608303
>“I’ll save him to scare a POW with,” Dano replied, tossing his kill aside. “Besides, I just ate an MRE.”
>“Ugh. Meals Rejected by Ethiopians. If that’s the alternative, I’ll take the snake. Anyway, I assume you came back here for more than a bad meal. What’s going on?”
Lind has a better relationship with food than with women
>“The Zanies are starting to re-seed sensors in areas we’ve cleared.”
>“How are they doing it? They’re not sending out the Dykes on Bikes, are they?”
Shitlords to right of them,
Shitlords to left of them,
Shitlords in front of them
Volley'd and mansplain'd;
Storm'd at with shot and shell,
Boldly they rode and well,
Into the jaws of Rape,
Into the mouth of Hell
Rode the six hundred.
>“It’d be nice if we could whittle down their air strength before we go in. Even with a broad flying it, an airplane is smarter than a missile. Since they tried that F-35 strike and lost their asses, their Air Force has stayed in the kitchen. Maybe we could use this to draw ‘em into some more furballs.”
I know that it has already been established that 50 year old F-16s with spotty maintenance beat F-35s, but it is still fucking stupid. And he has to throw in that "get in the kitchen" dig.
>It took just over a week to put all the pieces together. The long-wave radars were too big to move forward, and their continuous emissions would bring HARMs. But our flak outfit also had some small, single-ping radars adapted from the MiG-47 for ground employment. They put a few on peaks just west of the passes. They would pick up stealth because they'd be looking straight up at the F-35's huge, flat bottom.
Ree.
>The Boys from Utica, now unofficially the Condor Legion with Utah Air Guard markings and uniforms, cheered when they heard Dano’s plan.
Fucking wehraboos
>>30601999
>platoon
My grunt brain is rebelling against all of this.
>"So let me get this straight. You want my platoon to tear-ass north for 450 Klicks, Deep into enemy held territory and hit a hardened installation that houses all of their command and control for their automated missile artillery network."
>"Correct"
>"Soooo... We'll be doing this at the head of a larger push into Azani territory?"
>"Lieutenant, you are the main push. There are four other platoons with your mission but they have their own targets."
>"Fucking what?... And you want me to assault an urban structure that is guarded, to say nothing of being filled with choke points and pre-planned ambushes. Well what do we have for support? Resupply? Artillery? CAS?"
>"The Azanian dissidents. Their militia will distract the main effort.
>"You mean that bunch of Abercrombie and Fitch models with hammers and frozen paintballs?"
>"Lieutenant, you're not thinking 4th generationally..."
>"You're goddamn right I'm not, sir."
>>30608459
/tg/ here. I've played Hearts of Iron for about five hours, and I think the word this dunce is looking for is "brigade" or better yet "division".
But you and I both know this guy doesn't give a shit.
>>30608423
>They figured a game of aerial grabass against women pilots among the peaks of the Rockies would be a demolition derby.
>aerial grabass
>As one fresh-faced lieutenant pilot put it to me, “If you think women have any sense of spatial relationships, next time you’re in a supermarket, see who always leaves their shopping carts in the middle of the aisles.”
At this rate, Lind will make me a feminist
>The challenge was bringing aircraft forward into Nevada without making them missile targets. Our aviators knew they’d have to keep the numbers down. They finally decided to go with just eight F-16s, for four two-ship rotte.
>rotte
Gratuitous German Quotes: 26
Sip your Sam Adams
> By flying them in at night, letting the engines cool down, then hauling them into hides with horse teams, they effectively hid them from eyes in the sky, even eyes with thermal imaging.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0
He is in complete denial about sensors.
>Meanwhile, Ron’s guys laid land lines back from the radars to an improvised GCI site, which communicated to the fighters from dispersed burst transmitters.
I'm no SIGINT SME, but since we have everyone from grunts to fighter pilots to nuclear think tank analysts in this thread, I'm holding out for a hope that someone can tell us laypeople how Lind, reverse renaissance man he is, completely fucked it up.
They shot down some unescorted helicopters. This is entirely successful and they don't get bounced within the Azanian's own territory because lol women.
>Three days later, another sensor replacement mission came out. This time, there was just one helo, but it had four F-35s as escorts. We hit them with all eight of our forward F-16s. Again we left one survivor to go home and weep her debrief.
lol women, always crying, amirite
>>30608499
Oh no, Lind is entirely serious about platoons. He really is that delusional
>>30608459
But come on, fellow white TRUE Christian, these are women you are fighting
>>30608534
>horse-drawn F-16s
that's some 5th-generation shit right there
>>30608534
>Again, we let one get home, the same little lady our boys let go the first time. Her aircraft was easy to recognize. She’d had the whole fuselage painted up as a cut-off penis.
>fuselage painted up as a cut-off penis
Kek
>It took the witches five days to figure out what to do next. On August 22, they came out with two helos and twenty-four F-35s. So many more little figures on broomsticks to paint on our F-16s, our pilots figured.
Pic related, I hope.
>Then, just after our diamond formations had foxed their barrage of AMRAAMS but before the merge, our pilots got a warning from one of Dano’s boys that he had a visual on four fighters, high and fast, behind us and starting to turn.
How the hell are they getting a visual?
>I was listening on the net, and we all knew at once what the report meant: F-22s, the old U.S. Air Force’s ultra-hot stealth fighter. We didn't know the Zanies had any.
Surely this will cause problems and lose some of their 8 F-16s
>So our F-16s ran away. Holding their diamond formations to guard against AMRAAM tail shots, they turned, dove for the deck, went to afterburner and fled all the way back to Utah.
Of course not
>Our SIGINT heard the Azanian pilots giggling and cackling as the helos made their inserts in safety. They’d given those pricks a licking, all right. Hi-tech had triumphed over testosterone.
Not testosterone, writer fiat and wishful thinking. Rumford's general staff makes the IJN seem like a model of efficiency and shrewd planning.
>One of the most basic rules of warfare is, don’t fall into predictable patterns. But women don’t understand war, and high technology does the same thing over and over.
Just have elan, bro.
>Our recon troops quickly cleared the fresh Azanian sensors, so two days later, early in the morning, the ladies came to replace them. They had two helos, just eight F-35s, and four F-22s again protecting the whole gaggle.
Naturally, they didn't get ambushed by Dykes on Bikes
>>30608601
This could work if only he had enough car windows!
>>30608698
I'm still triggered as fuck that Lind thinks that AMRAAMs can't home in on individual aircraft flying in formation. Also that F-22's can't chase down F-16's.
And I'm not even autistic!
I fucking guarantee you back in 1985 Lind was one of the people disparaging the F-16 as a disgusting overengineered waste of money
Please, please make /k/ book club a regular fixture, I absolutely love reading and riffing on this trash, and it might even be some fun with a less terrible book. Billy Boy, you're a true /k/ommando for buying this horrible book, and I'd love to read over your shoulder some more
>Being a Christian, something had to mean marriage. It seemed eons ago that I’d last thought about marriage. I admired Maria, and I liked her. Could I love her? I had no expectation of romantic love, nor any desire for it. By its nature it was a flash in the pan, the only effect of which was to lead incompatible people into marriages that didn’t last. A better question was, were Maria and I two people who would grow to love each other over time? I couldn’t answer, but I found it interesting that I was asking myself the question.
>But that answer left me facing another question: what about Maria? What did I owe her? What did she want from me? Anything, now that I had to refuse her request to help her people? Was I really thinking about marriage?
>The problem was that I was already married. I was married to Bellona, goddess of war.
>Lead us not into temptation, I thought. What about when I was home? Maria and I alone under the same roof, liking each other, perhaps in time loving each other, unmarried. Could I maintain her honor and God’s law?
TRUE ROMANCE
>>30608862
Radio isn't shaped like Hulk Hogan/10, otherwise perfect
>>30608821
It's extremely painful, but I do it for you. I'm a big guy withs big heart.
>>30608862
>that fucking pic
Sides = gone
>>30608862
>She had none of the excitability of Latin women, for which I was thankful.
>The problem was that I was already married. I was married to Bellona, goddess of war.
First off: the Latin excitability is the BEST PART LIND HOLY SHIT
Second: So what you're saying is that she's simply not as exciting as war? WHAT DO YOU WANT IN A WOMAN, LIND? BORING OR EXCITING?
>>30608894
I had to find one that said "RADIO SHACK" on it. Es tut mir Leid.
>>30608862
>The Kaiser rolling in on a T-34.
Lost it.
>>30608862
>tsar in lego t34
i'm fucking dying
>>30608862
ayyyyyy
>>30608862
>Tsar in a lego T-34
Just noticed that one. You are a genius. All it needs to be perfect, in my opinion, is a "No Girls Allowed" sign somewhere
