does the ATF consider the barrel the part of the firearm with a rifled bore or is bore length and barrel length different in the eyes of the ATF?
if somebody makes an AR with a a 10 inch bore with a 6 inch faux suppressor, is that still considered a 16 inch barrel?
all i understand is that the ATF measures the length of the tube of the receiver of a firearm from the end to the bolt face.
tl;dr what is the legal definition of "barrel" and "bore"
>>30613860
>if somebody makes an AR with a a 10 inch bore with a 6 inch faux suppressor, is that still considered a 16 inch barrel?
yes as long as it's permanently attached
I believe the faux suppressor would work if it was welded to the barrel since 14.5 inch barrels are good to go with a muzzle device pinned and welded.
>>30613901
i know on the kel tec SU series rifles, they submitted one with like a 15 inch barrel but it had a 1 inch muzzle device and the ATF said it was a 16 inch barrel, even though the actual barrel was 15 inches
man the ATF and the NFA need to get their shit together, pic relate
Is Israeli carry (aka condition 1, full mag no round in the chamber) for scrubs? I have never carried a gun and am a little bit weary about carrying condition 0.
Does everyone pretty much carry with a round chambered?
>>30613106
Everyone who is not a dumb mother fucker yeah. Some people will say "hurr you'll have time to pull the slide!" but think about this.
George Zimmerman didn't have time to pull the slide on his gun or the means. The only thing he had time to do was pull and draw.
If you wanna get your head caved in because you can't fire your gun that's your business.
>>30613106
>Is Israeli carry (aka condition 1, full mag no round in the chamber)
That's condition 3
>I have never carried a gun and am a little bit weary about carrying condition 0.
Then get a gun with a manual safety.
>>30613169
>Then get a gun with a manual safety.
And regularly practice your draw while disengaging that manual safety. You want the muscle memory to take over when you have to reach for your gun, because your brain won't remember shit.
Cleaning after shooting corrosive? Hey guys, I need to know the best/cheapest/easiest/whatever you do that works way to clean after shooting corrosive. I don't want to fuck up my baby. Sorry for being a newfag
>>30612861
> make a pentagram of slavshit
> drizzle hot cosmoline around it
> leave a bottle of vodka and a pack of cigarettes inside it as an offering
> hear a deep, cackling voice speaking in Georgian
> later, find that your entire neighborhood has been ransacked with every male shot and every female raped
For a bolt rifle?
Remove bolt and wipe down with a solvent. Dump a pot full of hot water down the barrel, let dry, then clean and oil as normal
>>30612900
My sides just went into fucking orbit around Saturn.
Hiya /k/unts, newly hasguns here. Picked up this Mak IJ-70 18A just today, as well as 550 rounds of HP and FMJ. Can anybody recommend me a good IWB holster? Also Makarov thread I guess.
How much did it run you?
I picked up an IJ70, 200 rounds of FMJ, an extra mag and Russian Makarov holster for $220 a few months back.
>>30612660
i got hosed apparently, armslist guy got me for $490 for the mak, 2 mags, the ammo, and an owb holster
>>30612737
You didn't really get fucked. I think you paid an amount close to market value (for reference, even though a Bulgarian isn't necessarily as valuable as Russian made gun, J&G is selling Bulgarian Maks for $300). A year or two ago I bought a Bulgarian Mak with 3 mags and 300 rds of ammo for $420 because no one else was selling them for a reasonable price in Oregon that I could get to. Meanwhile there were posters here buying them in more proliferated states buying the same thing for half that. Getting...
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Is it worse to be shot in the head or through the heart? Which is more fatal? If you had to choose where to be shot, where would you take it? How about the most painful?
not everything in a head is strictly vital, and the skull is a bone with a complex shape.
but depending on what kind of caliber we're talking, the question may be just open casket or closed.
>>30611805
>Fuck you, you son of a bitch, now it's my turn
When you hear that off your mark, you should know that you've made a very poor decision.
>>30611731
cleveland
Post some ammo cans
>>30611672
Other side
>>30611672
>>30611699
Good job op. Great thread.
>>30611672
I used printer paper as a stencil. Knowing is half the battle.
Is this a good crossbow?
>>30610953
Gee you sure did give us a mountain of information to go off of. I dont know how we will ever get through all of it.
trading big ass for a bigger picture of dat X bow
>>30610982
Holy shit nice
It's an sa sports fever
I have a kill'n'eat attitude. I live by the beach. I fish and catch crabs and I hunt in season. I track deer and bores. I love hunting and only eat food I kill personally. I have freezers full of meat year round, I cook my own shit. I only buy my veggies from the local IGA.
is anyone else on /k/ like this?
>>30610948
Not me. Hunting is a periodic sport. Hunting season comes around. I eat game. I fish only in warm weather. I give zero fucks about where my produce comes from.
>>30610948
I would like to but i have no time to hunt and im not gonna kill the cottontails in my back yard or the foxes at my work
Taking my zulu shotgun to the range for the first time tomorrow.
What do you think the chances are it will explode and I'll go out in a blaze of glory?
>>30610417
Will bump with a few pics
>>30610417
Holy shit was this on gunbroker 3 weeks ago are you the asshole who out bid me?
>>30610441
No. Lol. Second time I've heard that up here actually. I got this at a LGS. Hope much was it on gb?
You have supreme command over all the island's offensive and defensive forces.
If the island falls, you will be in charge of the resistance.
>>30609976
Here is the terrain layout to aid in your planning.
Note the abundance of mountains.
>>30609976
laugh because china has no capability to invade , also beg big daddy us to help
>>30609976
Do as much damage as possible with your air force and navy before they get wiped out. Use mobile, land-based systems to make a large-scale landing basically impossible.
Hello /k/, i just got an old coach gun from my grandmother. The triggers and hammers work but I cant get it open. The fucker has been through Louisiana's version of Katrina and was then tossed in a shed and forgotten. Any ideas to open it? Also sorry about the auto rotate in advance.
Pic of top
Shameful self bump
Smash the barrels against a tree for a minute or two then try again.Repeat as necessary, if any bending occurs stop and hold the barrels while hitting the stock against the tree instead.
Britfag here.
I want to escape this oppressive country.
I can't even own a weapon unless I abide by the shitty laws which prevent me from owning the rifle I want. Pic related.
Which is the best country to flee to?
>>30609934
Switzerland or Czech Republic I guess
>>30609952
I'd rather stay in Europe simply because travel is cheaper and I don't like a lot of the culture in the USA
So /k/, did you hear about a game called "Onward"?
It is Virtual Reality Tactical MilSim game
What do you think? Will it be success? Will it be worth getting and will it have good amount of non-cancer players?
Alpha Gameplay Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkDrMbQhh3Y
>>30609740
I'm in the alpha. It's beyond great. [NDA] and [NDA] and [NDA] Amazing what Dante has put together.
One day we'll have full on Arma VR and the circle will be complete, but until then there will be Onward.
Also, >>>/v/
>>30609791
>One day we'll have full on Arma VR and the circle will be complete, but until then there will be Onward.
Imo it will be only in very far future, because of arma CPU optimization and usage.
Maybe Arma 4, who knows.
>Also, >>>/v/
Was thinking about it, but is there a lot of people who like tactical milsims?
>>30609740
this will go great with ptsd
Soon I'll be buying a Remington New Model Army. It'll be my first cap and ball revolver. Is there anything I need to know about these before I buy? I know I need no. 10 caps, a powder measure, .44 balls and patches. Anything else I need?
Ballistol and water is the best mixture I've found to clean up black powder residue... you can just dump the disassembled pistol into a vat of it for a few minutes and wipe it down if you feel like being lazy.
Also recommend a conversion cylinder and some .45LC rounds for convenient everyday shooting.
>>30608763
Always clean the cap nipples after firing; people tend to forget that and then they corrode into place.
Also, patches are unnecessary if you use a .454 ball, as the shaved lead will seal the front of the chamber. Some oiled patches or bore butter makes the fouling a lot easier to get out but isn't necessary to prevent chainfires as long as you have tight caps and balls.
Considering that europe has horrible gun laws, and that muslims are killing us.
How easy it would be to get my hands on a black powder cap and ball revolver?
How are laws regarding them?
What about carrying one?
What models of could be purchased?
>>30608386
In Germany black powder weapons are easy to get, but you arent allowed to carry also it is for defence purposes easier to buy a gun illegaly
>>30608451
Is there any EU country where there is a loophole regarding black powder guns for carry, i heard that in some EU country which i can't remember they arent considered weapons.
>>30608386
>Don't get it wet
>You need to change powder and caps often at a minimum daily
>Hard to draw a long barrel in a tight spot
>Will misfire more often than a cartrage gun
>Not going to have time to reload if you miss
>Will still be illegal to cc
But a black jack.