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First time posting, so here goes. I turned 21, got my permit to purchase finally, and am deciding between the Zastava M70A and the P-64. The Tokarev is in 9mm, $240.00, comes with two magazines and a hard case. The Makarov is in 9x18, $225.00, Polish made in 1967 I think, comes with two magazines and the original military leather holster. These are the prices at stores near me. My primary use is for recreational shooting mostly, but also teaching beginners how guns work and taking them shooting for the first time. Since I go to a very liberal university there are a lot of people...
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>>30201543
Mak-daddy has a decocker, and SA/DA trigger, so there is more you can teach someone with the platform.
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I own both, however (both) my Tokarevs are Russian TT-33s in 7.62x25. One is 1942 production the other is 1951. My Makarov is a Baikal MP-442 single stack in 9x18.

Assuming they're in the same condition, the Makarov is easily the better gun. The trigger is nicer, the grip is more comfortable, and it has an actual safety systems integrated into the original design of the gun.

The Tokarev simply isn't a very good design. A lot of elements stack up against it- trigger, grip angle, bad sights, no/poor safety, and in all likelihood long term durability. Every new shooter I've let try it (mostly girls) has been intimidated by the snappyness of 7.62x25 though that might be different with 9mm. Certainly the grip angle and bad trigger lend no favors to someone interested in just plinking, and IMO the TT-33 is mostly valuable as a collector gun if other options can be had for the same price.

And honestly, the Makarov has a lot of good things going for it. It's actually pretty accurate if you can get around the short sight radius, not just for a compact handgun but in general. It's been totally reliable while both my Tokarevs have seen malfunctions ranging from magazine-related FTFs that needed the detent enlarged slightly, to a stuck case that needed a table edge to open the slide.

If you're really looking for a first handgun that can also serve to introduce people to shooting, I'd recommend a 4" .357 of some type, although it might be out of the price range. For purely recreational shooting you can get wadcutters to really learn how to shoot precisely, and .38 special out of a gun that size is a real sweet spot for recoil- enough to be exciting but not so much that it's intimidating.
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>>30201543
>>30201884
The P-64 is not a Makarov design.
It just shoots 9x18, calling it a Makarov is confusing.
And actual Makarov will be better than a P64.

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Calling all pre-WW1 fags and
Mauser fags.
I jave a chance to purchase this gewehr 88
But some of the markings are throwing me off.
Could anyone help plz?
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Also it has the 88 on the side of the reciever milled out because a thumb groove is there for using stripper clips i believe
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Last pic i have
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I already saw that thread today

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What does /k/ think about the dragon skin vest/carrier?

It seems to be more effective than regular plate carriers, but failed tests for some reason. It's also twice the weight of a normal plate carrier(about 45lbs/20kg ish).

it' said that Chris Kyle got one from his family, that he used. But he was a sniper.

Thoughts? do you think the concept will be the new norm in the future?
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I think the adhesive failed in hot conditions which is why the US military didn't use it. Idk google it.
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>>30201433
>It's also twice the weight of a normal plate carrier(about 45lbs/20kg
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>>30201458
This, fine for fair weather but rain, heat and the cold soon made it collapse.

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It's Two Stamp Tuesday, and I'm finally able to submit OC. Post what you've got.

Mine is an 8.5" SBR with a Silencerco Omega
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>>30201342
Is that magpul sand? Looks good but it always appears white in other pics I've seen.
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>>30201342
Wow
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>>30201354
That's a gen2 mag, don't think those were available in sand.

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/p/ Thread in /k/, post what you've taken. Any tips for taking decent /k/ related photos you guys might have? Gonna post a few I took today. Never done anything with photography, what do you think /k/? They're unfiltered and except for removing the serial no. off of my AR and part of a hose from one of the K31 pics unedited.
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These were all done with a Nokia Lumia 925 btw

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>dream gun
>not offered in black like the other M9's

SOILED IT
SOILED IT
SOILED IT
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what's different from a normal M9 besides the rail?
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>>30201198
>>dream gun
buy it and get it cerakote in black. new grips and mag base plate and youre done.
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>>30201208

>grip circumference
>removable sights
>threaded barrel
>flattened trigger guard (though not a fan)
>new coating on mags that make them more reliable in dusty conditions
>safety is at a more elevated angle to help prevent accidentally engaging

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Lets say you are the Chief of the Ordnance Corp during a dire conflict.

>You desperately need weapons to arm your soldiers, raw materials and funds are in short supply.

>You have access to the schematics and tooling to any firearm that has ever been designed.

What firearm would you would put in production for your general infantry that is both capable and efficient resource wise?

>Bonus: what would you produce for these specific categories?

>pistol
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Nothing short of God coming to Earth himself could have given the Third Reich victory. They had no way to win even if they weren't run by loons.

The cheapest/best gun out there is the AR-15. You can run a CNC machine out of a garage.

>pistol
I wouldn't
>Lmg
Ares Shrike
>DMR
18" AR-15
>Sniper rifle
I wouldn't
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>>30201224

>The cheapest/best gun out there is the AR-15

Military contract AR: $750

Military (foreign import) Contract AK: $150
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>>30201224
>Nothing short of God coming to Earth himself could have given the Third Reich victory. They had no way to win even if they weren't run by loons.

I know, just curious as to what people would choose.

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Legitimate /k/ question here…

How feasible is pic related? I mean, Doom takes place way in the future, where there are handheld WMD’s and plasma weapons. Hell, even the standard pistol basically fires superheated plasma using some sort of disintegrating gel cartridge.

Would a belt-fed .50 caliber assault rifle make sense in the far-off future as a standard weapon? For the sake of the argument, we can assume that weapon technology has improved greatly, so we can mitigate the inherent problems that a modern weapon system might have with a handheld 50 BMG machine...
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>>30201081
You're failing to take into account how much the ammo itself weighs. Yeah you could probably shrink a platform down to shoot .50 BMG into something that's fine to carry, but carrying any worthwhile amount of ammo is what will be the killer.

I'm sure a .50 can be redesigned with less power to allow more ammunition to be carried, but it will still be heavy as fuck. Do you think you're going to reload 50 rounds of .50 BMG with you off hand?
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>>30201081
>How feasible is pic related?

Lets see..

boullets>
yes
>canon
yeees
>Space for firing mechanism
yes.

So... I guess I can say that there is 90% probability that is feasible.

But, is feasable the feasibility of the feasable technology for such a gun without implementing it somewhere else more efficiently?

now thats the question.
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It makes sense in Doom where 15 ft tall demons are standard encounters, its needless IRL when a .338 belt fed (if you really have your mind set on big bullet) would do the same thing but lighter and more compact munitions.

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light edition
if you dont have a SF light kys

old thread >>30210314
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>>30212989
>early

Kys and kyd

>>30212992
Wow MSD actually said something funny.

Say something else funny
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>>30212989
nah
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Why does anon never, ever post his AR when he's asked to?

Who here can tell me about the Marine's Special Forces? Anyone with any experience? I'm going to be a marine when I finish school, like every other man in my family, but I want to pursue special operations. Any tips, or differentiation between force recon and battalion? Or Raider experience?
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>>30201020
No advice except make sure that you can swim gud, land navigate with a map and compass alone, you have excellent cardio, and you're strong as hell. Obviously you better be a excellent marksman.

If you don't have any experience with this, hit up your local school that has a ROTC program. They have land nav courses, and you can contact your local sheriff to get certified.

Woodland firefighting is a great way to get in shape for the military. Paramedic training is great too, if you want to be...
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Don't do it and switch over to army, go Rangers, actually do shit
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>>30201020
if youre recon that goes marsoc indoc the recon cadre marsoc instructors will treat you better than non recon inductees.

lots of "squared" away Admin Marines will go to your marsoc unit so you have a lot of drill instructors in your support companies so actuall marsoc team people will be constantly yelled at by these drill instructors for their low regs, marsoc issued gear, and why field day and rosters were perfectly done.

How's Kansas? Family is moving to Sedgwick County this winter.
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>>30201006
Methheads/10.
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Nice laws, shitty people. If you hate the great plains you're going to go crazy.
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>>30201006

City? Just Why....
Country? Better have some land so you can fuck around outside.

MO is better iMO, we have mountains and lakes.

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Hi /k/,
I recently got into this topic of 3D printed guns and i want to know your opinion, not just about if they are efficient, but if its okay for people to have the oportunity to just download and print a gun. I found out this FP 45 Liberator gun (which is by my opinion already pretty interesting) and than its 'sibling' 3D printed gun called liberator. The first liberator was originally intended as an insurgency weapon to be mass dropped behind enemy lines to resistance fighters in occupied territory. The pistol was valued as much for its psychological warfare...
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They're shit.
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>>30200896
But is there any potential?
But i guess I'm mainly interested in your opinion about their availability.
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>>30200911
They are good for like 1-2 shots max. There are better options but fuck it still kind of cool to 3D print a gun. Regardless I would only shoot once.

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hey /k/ im about to buy my first own weapon
what you recommend?
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What are you looking for? Shotgun? Rifle? Handgun? Tibetan elephant launcher?
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>first weapon
pocketknife
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a handgun >>30201032

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Redpill me /k/
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>>30200784
Oregon is the most /k/ state

/thread
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>>30200784
it seems every nice state rich libs go there and try to turn it into the shithole they fled from.
>idaho
>montanna
>florida
>colorado
>tejas

How do you stop that? Statesgun rights got their butt kicked recently.
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>>30200792
I'll agree but only because portland has lots of traps

I've read lots of accounts of D-Day stating that the beaches were supposed to be heavily shelled before the invasion to create cover for the invading troops. But this never happened and soldiers were shocked to be met with a flat untouched beach with no cover.

Is it possible the beaches weren't shelled on purpose to prevent soldiers from hiding in shell holes and refusing to advance?
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>>30200723
No
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>>30200723
No, it's because the bombers missed that all the shells fell short into the water, making massive underwater craters to drown in.

Plus, they succeeded in this concept in places other than bloody Omaha, partially why the beach earned the reputation.
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>>30200723
Allies fired a literal storm of rockets but they all did fuck all, I bet if at least half of them hit they would of had some cover.

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