What does /k/ think NATO will look like in 30 to 50 years? Only logical thing that I could of think of besides the Alliance going to shit and dissolving.
Ireland isn't in NATO.
Either dissolving as the world slips further into an anarchic clusterfuck, or expanding into a worldwide alliance (obviously changing their name) to include West-aligned countries outside of Europe and North America
>>27892860
Yes this is why the picture is titled 'Future of NATO, maybe'.
How come Chinese military history is such a complete joke?
Is it a cultural thing that makes them so bad at war?
A long history of internal conflict meant that when China had to muster forces to actually defend themselves against modernized militaries (which the Chinese weren't) they usually only had shitloads of poorly equipped inexperienced troops.
why this thread is such a complete joke? did you mean to post on /his/?
That's what happens when you build your military to protect whoever the ruler is and not the country, something they do to this day.
If you get the Yamato.
Put radar.
AA missiles.
Replace every AA turret with a Phalanx CIWS.
Anti-torpedo missiles.
I doubt any force would be able to sink it.
What's the fucking point? You could have the exact same ship except much lighter by not having the stupid armor and guns.
>>27890845
you got to be 18 to post here, underage weeb
we stopped using battleships for the same reason we stopped using plates of armor
Why should civilians have access to the same firepower as trained Army Officials /k/?
Also, would you buy it? What'd they change about it from the older ones?
>>27889179
>Makes her picture a tri color because 100's of civilians were shot and blown up the other night
>Lol why civilians need guns?
What a common cunt
>>27889179
because we can cunt
>>27889179
>mfw its just. 92 FS in tan
>9mm apparently is different in a "military" side arm
>mfw these people are still somehow smart enough to breed
so /k/ how many of you neck beards would actually enlist during ww3?
>>27888946
>enlist
At this point in warfare, the fight would already be on the doorstep, m8. Enlist would just take up valuable kebab removal time.
Why not?
It'd be really fucking important to be a third world war.
>too old to enlist
Well in war times they typically extend the age so maybe. But we'd need an actual enemy for me to get involved, Not just "brown people". That's why I never joined in the first place
It's time for another Se/k/ret Santa thread, here's the rundown on what's up.
/k/ has been doing Secret Santas for the past few years run by some awesome /k/ommandos. The hosting privilege has changed hands a few times each Christmas. Last year I aided "The Metallurgist" in running the 2014 Se/k/ret Santa and together we paired up at least 65 /k/ommrades. Each year things have gone great, everyone had fun, no one ever got doxxed or anything unpleasant shipped to them as we continued the tradition of having one of the most tight knit and chill...
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ATF stop trying to get my address
I've gotten a few emails from people saying "I'M IN!" and then providing a wishlist then nothing else.
You should send the PROPER information.
Good luck guys, I lost $60 last time I participated in Se/k/ret Santa.
>Martini-Henry
>Rolling Block (military style)
Which of these two would /k/ buy? I plan on getting one and I also plan on shooting it, although it will be minimal.
>>27883260
My personal preference would be the rolling block.
Many different models out there with varying histories and chamberings.
>>27883260
Why not Martini-Enfield for ammo availability .303 british is on the expensive side but you can use modern factory hunting rounds.
>>27883365
Because I want a big-bore blackpowder rifle. I already have 2 lee-enfields.
Edition edition
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#MEG on Freenode
If you're on mobile look up AndroIRC for the app. Any questions, ask in the thread to get you set up.
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Which branch are you enlisting/enlisted/considering?
http://strawpoll.me/4671253
Ask questions, answer questions, bitch about Air Force recruiters. Just keep it contained to this general.
ITS here leaving this month.
How often are you in a sub and for how long is the duration of the trip? When you port, how long do you port for?
I have virtually no will to do anything due to undiagnosed depression/anhedonia.
Would 2 years or so in the army contribute to me unfucking myself? Has anyone experienced a similar change in themselves during/after the army?
sorry If I've made some kind of mistake
>>27881627
It should probably help, did in my case. Boosted my self-worth a ton.
As long as you're not actually mentally nutters, and don't show depression, they probably won't care/notice at recruiting.
Alright /k what do you put in your home defense shotgun?
>>27879576
my wife's penis. natch.
>>27879576
shotgun bullets, duh
>>27879576
00 buck
I'm fascinated by the variety of grenade launchers whether stand alone models (ex. M79, M320, RG-6), rifle grenades (M7, M31, APAV40), and all the crazies in between.
So lets talk grenade launchers and whether the older models could find a use on the battlefields of today and tomorrow and how well the modern ones are doing!
Pic related is Danish soldier with Lewis Machine Tool M203 performing guard duty at anti-terror conference.
Finnish SFs use the HK69, one of the oldest standalone 40mm GL systems.
I still see man-portable grenade launchers to have a role on battlefield; they can be utilized as poorman's mortars, destroy weaker fortifications and lighter vehicles, and cause fear in the enemy forces.
All the special ammos (smoke and so on) can provide some tactical advantage as well.
sometimes I wish they would bring back rifle grenades but I'm not sure if the 5.56 round can reliably launch them long distance compared to .30-06 and 7.62x51.
Alright /k/. Hip, drop-leg, or shoulder holster? Go.
>>27847470
It's whatever you prefer you fucking faggot.
Think for yourself.
>>27847487
I know that, I just want to see what different people prefer
I've only ever used hip
>>27847470
If I wasn't living in the subtropics I'd consider a shoulder holster for concealment.
For OC the only one I don't care for is drop-leg because they inevitably become loose or otherwise get in the way while running.
Anywhere in Australia where i can get a Moist Nugget? Is it worth the buy?
Trawl on used guns.
Or yknow. Get a SMLE for cheaper, and get a better rifle too!
>>27847240
>Anywhere in Australia where i can get a Moist Nugget?
Yes.
>Is it worth the buy?
No.
>>27847240
https://www.usedguns.com.au/Product.aspx?p=65740
One here for $450
does /k/ like stippling?
do you do it your self or send to someone else
nope.
>>27846953
Absolutely not.
>>27847135
why
This might be more suited for /his/, but I'll take a chance with it here.
Post warrior cultures or countries that you think are cool, have influenced warfare historically, and hopefully remain /k/ool today despite our western pussification.
Also post their weapons
I'll start with the Gurkhas
>be poor village boy
>grow up, join nepalese army
>fight so hard, the global superpower decides to enlist you in East India Trading Co. Army
>fight...
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>>27846828
>Completely under the thumb of the British
lol
>>27846828
What about natives?
>>27846859
>Gurkha's
>Completely under the British thumb
Shiggy Diggy Doo friendo, i sure hope you don't believe this.
How loud is a supersonic 5.56 round? I understand suppressors lower the db by quite a bit, but just how quiet are they?
Youtube videos don't seem to provide a good means for understanding how loud they are and Hollywood movies depict them as being quiet death machines that won't wake the neighborhood.
If someone were to fire a suppressed 5.56 supersonic from a 16" barrel, 10 feet away from you in an open environment, how loud would it be? Would the round still cause hearing damage? Can someone compare what it sounds like to an everyday sound?
BOP BOP
>>27846818
Rifles and shotguns?
Still over 110db, as in can cause some instant damage.
it'd be a loud, spiky bang. Like a very loud stapler being hit nearby.
Just look up some Youtube comparisons.
>>27846818
>If someone were to fire a suppressed 5.56 supersonic from a 16" barrel, 10 feet away from you in an open environment, how loud would it be?
About 135dB at1m, depending on the can and conditions.
So at ~3m, about 125dB.
Still rather loud, but hearing safe for a hundred rounds or so.