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Hey /jp/, sorry for asking a stupid guestion, but I don't get the visual novel Euphoria (https://vndb.org/v6540). What is the appeal?

Am I supposed to like rape and pictures of human feces? How many of you guys actually enjoyed this VN? Isn't this kind of a weird thing for a company like MangaGamer to bring over? Does anybody know how well this actually sold?

Also, some of the characters don't make any sense. How am I supposed to believe that a virgin teenage girl wants to experience rape, torture and mind breaking? And what about that Byakuya bitch? Is she a human being or a robot? Has her writer ever interacted with humans?
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>>14823544
>Shit taste.
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>>14823544
>How am I supposed to believe that a virgin teenage girl wants to experience rape

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_fantasy
>A 1974 study by Hariton and Singer[1] found that being "overpowered or forced to surrender" was the second most frequent fantasy in their survey; a 1984 study by Knafo and Jaffe ranked being overpowered as their study's most common fantasy during intercourse. In 1985, Louis H. Janda who is an associate professor of psychology at Old Dominion University[2] said that the sexual fantasy of being raped is the most common sexual fantasy for women.[3] A 1988 study by Pelletier and Herold found that over half of their female respondents had fantasies of forced sex.[4]
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ya
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Euphoria sold very well. A lot more than other recently released story-heavy VNs like Kara no Shoujo 2 or Gahkthun.

People do indeed buy games with extreme fetishes.

Here's what to like about Euphoria written by a female superfan: http://blog.mangagamer.org/2015/12/21/12-days-of-visual-novels-euphoria/
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>>14824102

Well yes, but that is mostly limited to fantasies and doesn't translate how people behave in real life. Especially while they are actually experiencing pain and/or mindbreaking.
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wait till you get fraternite then remake this thread
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>>14824448
Aren't nukiges always selling more than story heavy games in western market? How did Euphoria do compared to other nukiges? And yes, I do think that Euphoria is a nukige.
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Power rape fantasy losers that should be on a watch list.
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>>14823544
>Am I supposed to like rape and pictures of human feces?
better question: why did you buy a guro/scat VN if you don't like the genre?
>How many of you guys actually enjoyed this VN? Isn't this kind of a weird thing for a company like MangaGamer to bring over?
unlike you, most people who watch anime are quite open-minded and don't really care about what you think about their fetishes.
>How am I supposed to believe that a virgin teenage girl wants to experience rape, torture and mind breaking?
Teenagers have a strong libido and everyone has their fantasies.

>>14824807
>Well yes, but that is mostly limited to fantasies and doesn't translate how people behave in real life.
'Beware of “the real world”. A speaker’s apeal to it is always an invitation not to challenge his tacit assumptions.'
a rape fantasy is a rape fantasy, what are you trying to imply?
the writer is a human and if he can have that as a fantasy, obviously any other human can.
>Especially while they are actually experiencing pain
masochism
>mindbreaking
it's not like you can approve it or not once you are mindbroken
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Come for the rape fantasy

Stay for the rape fantasy

Get surprised by the surprisingly crazy actual story
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>>14825012
>better question: why did you buy
Anon plz.

>unlike you, most people who watch anime are quite open-minded and don't really care about what you think about their fetishes.
I don't think that I've ridiculed people for having extreme fetishes. I also don't think that having an open mind necessitates one enjoying said fetishes.

>Teenagers have a strong libido and everyone has their fantasies.
I challenge you to find one recorded instance of a teenage virgin enjoying violent rape in practice

>the writer is a human and if he can have that as a fantasy, obviously any other human can.
The writer is an adult employee in a pornographic industry writing a fictional story.
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>>14825056
>I also don't think that having an open mind necessitates one enjoying said fetishes
if you are open-minded enough you can fap to pretty much everything

i've been a teenager. also look at tumblr. more people than you think fantasize about being raped.
enjoying? human body is made to get pleasure from sex included rape; never head of evolution? people who rape/get raped manage to have children of their own, so that's probably why.
on a side note consensual rape is an oxymoron, so either they enjoy it but are not ok with it or it's consensual.
>The writer is an adult employee in a pornographic industry writing a fictional story.
... based on his fetishes.
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>>14825118
>also look at tumblr
Go back to tumblr
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>>14825196
no thanks
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>>14824448
>The moment I was met with the English version’s menu, I felt overwhelming excitement and joy within me. Finally, I would be able to understand the finer details I missed playing Euphoria in its native language.
What? It should be the exact opposite.
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>>14823544
>Am I supposed to like rape and pictures of human feces? How many of you guys actually enjoyed this VN? Isn't this kind of a weird thing for a company like MangaGamer to bring over?
Yes, and it was very enjoyable. And no, it wasn't at all weird.

>Also, some of the characters don't make any sense. How am I supposed to believe that a virgin teenage girl wants to experience rape, torture and mind breaking?
Have you never properly spoken to a virgin teenage girl before? It appears not. If you're self inserting into Euphoria it's already an issue anyway.

>And what about that Byakuya bitch? Is she a human being or a robot? Has her writer ever interacted with humans?
Yeah likewise, speak with more females than your mother. People of her caliber are carbon copies of her.
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Rape and breaking someone are always good, scat is always shit. Obviously.
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>>14825545
Scat is good when it's not combined with rape and breaking someone. There needs to be more consensual scat like with Marie in Starless.
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>>14825970
No.
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>>14825545
>Scat is good when...

Stopped readding here
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It's not rape if she wants it, it's just some rougher than average vanilla sex. Damn gooks don't know shit about good fetishes. Same for the mindbreak, yeah there is a "breaking" concept in BDSM but its treatment in nukige is bullshit. It requires intense trust and dependence, not physical pleasure. Mindbreak in euphoria was more akin to real one, so that's cool.

also euphoria has one of the most dramatic title drop moments I've seen in a VN.
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>>14826327
Euphoria is japanese, not korean.
>it requires intense trust and dependence, not physical pleasure.
[citation needed]
wikipedia says the opposite https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome#Evolutionary_psychology_explanations
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>>14826568
I don't know about that, and I was talking about BSDM terminology anyway. Just search with "breaking" and "bdsm" keywords. There are a lot of documents about it, now of course I don't know how many of them are legit or fanfictions. I heard those stuff from a guy within a submissive lifestyle, so I think it has a little bit legitimacy.
>not korean
seriously you don't think I don't know that and browse /jp/ right? I just like the word, not like all people say "nigga" use it for blacks.
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"Hey we have this awesome game with intense and extreme H content!"
"Cool"
"Ha ha ha fooled you nerd boy it's actually a parade of half-assed bdsm with a plot that is just basically it was all a dream so no hard feelings"

Never believe the hype, Euphoria is mediocre. Even Saya no Uta is better which is saying something
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Reminder that Euphoria is fictional, because strangely people seem to forget.
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>>14827084
They do? How?
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>>14823544
Euphoria hits the right levels of degeneracy, that first scene where that girl is electrocuted and shits herself is amazing.
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>>14826863
The "twist" was so stupid.
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>>14825242
She didn't know Japanese very well when she played it originally. And it still takes more than a year or two of studying to understand the nuances. MG's translation is pretty good so it probably captured those.

>>14824928
True, nukige sells well, according to MG. But this is a fetish nukige with a substantial story, so it probably attracted both types of audiences.
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