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>https://baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Horizon:Volume_4B_Chapter_55

June 13-19
>13.  6,428  21,797 Kyoukaisenjou no Horizon Vol.23
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Apparently both seasons got removed from CR today in case anyone cares.
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>>15442682
>Apparently both seasons got removed from CR today in case anyone cares.
RIP. At least both seasons are still on my mediafire.
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Does this look acceptable?
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>>15442799
Seems fine to me.
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>>15442815
waifu2x?
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>>15442825
No, they posted the version of the cover without text on the Dengeki twitter. That's the original resolution.
https://twitter.com/bunko_dengeki/status/737953143787540480
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>>15442815
Good.
The ad which is always around the covers says something about Hexennacht, so I'm hoping someone might enlighten me.
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>>15442845
Eh, I don't see anything about Hexennacht.
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>>15443033
There I go guessing wrong.
I thought the magazine stuff on the very left was something about it.
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https://twitter.com/vector_space/status/743060220801228800
Holy shit
Yoshiyasu was added
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>>15443338
Looks like his early scetch
Didn't he got better at art?
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>>15443461
Wouldn't surprise me if he designed Oda pretty early on.
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Okay, I'm going to say sorry in advance for this.
While I was debinding some water got on the spread due to some circumstances.
Luckily only one side is affected and I'll try my best to fix it when I work on the removal of the fold.
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>>15443772
Maybe I'm retarded, but I'm honestly not seeing it at first glance.
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>https://baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Horizon:Volume_4B_Chapter_56
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Just noticed NovelUpdates hadn't reported the last several chapters. It sucks being behind, but its nice to sit down and read 4 chapters at once.
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>>15444335
B-T Watchlist
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hey, i was wondering if someone has all the images that were edited of the novels?
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>>15443772
Above Futayo`s rump?
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Queen smiles today.
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>>15444296
Urquiaga has been really cool these last chapters.
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>>15445076
>Futayo
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>>15445076
Yeah, I'm currently trying to flatten it.
Mysteriously, it only affected this side.
That damn nephew of mine.

I'll have your stitches by Saturday, latest Sunday.
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>>15444412
You mean past what has been translated already?
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>>15445611
Take it easy, b/w illustrations are many and I`m slow.
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>>15445076
That's Fukushima Masanori. Futayo and her do look alike except one's the owner of my heart.
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>>15445672

yes the ones that have been uploaded here
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>>15445983
No idea. Before that one anon posted edited 10 spears pages I had never seen them.
Anon that posted edited 10 spears pages, where did you get those?
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>>15446287
These? I edited them myself.
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>>15446296

can you upload again the ones that you edited
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>>15446484
Okay, here are all monochrome illustrations which I haven't uploaded to B-T yet.
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>>15446505
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>>15446508
Will also include not SPEER.
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>>15446515
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>>15446296
Is that you Muton? How many pages have you already edited?
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>>15446519

>>15446520
Yes, it's me.
Everything that has a scan from Ivan and a name plate in volume 5+.
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>>15446528
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>>15446535
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>>15446528
Who is that guy anyway? I've seen a few pictures of him and..Christina(?) but don't know their relevance to the plot.
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>>15446541
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>>15446548

>>15446546
I try not to read the spoilers, can't help you there. And I'm a bit behind on the actual translation as well.
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>>15446555
That's it.
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Ivan hasn't scanned 8 or are there no nameplate pages in 8?
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>>15446576
He's on it. We started splitting Horizon to catch up; that's why I'm doing 9B now.
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>>15446582
freaking mosquitoes
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>>15445707
Don't worry. I'm not rushing it.
I just want to finish since I won't be at home the whole next week.
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has anyone upload 9A?
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>>15446560

thank you :)
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>>15445611
I didn't notice 10zo there the first time.
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>>15446821
I was thinking Toori held something in hand (izumo branded)
But Its me Di....10zo
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>>15446821
I think it's a joke how even if he is quite relevant and was always there he always goes unnoticed.
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>>15442799
>>15442815
Stuff like this makes me wonder how far off the color of everything printed is from how it was when it was created.
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>>15447311
Only the textless one from twitter had these vibrant colors.
The cover on their website, amazon, etc. is like this.
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>>15447321
So they put some kind of filter over it then?
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>>15447326
No clue what happened.
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>>15447585
Are the swimsuits getting smaller every volume?
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>>15447695
A bit, maybe?
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>>15447695
The swimsuits have Shinto spells woven in to provide a variety of divine protections, but the more they're worn, the more the spells are used up and the more the swimsuits shrink.
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>>15447695
No
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>https://baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Horizon:Volume_4B_Chapter_57
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Horizon 9-B Chapters 37-39:
Kiyomasa holds her own against Niwa.
Sakon takes over the fight against Niwa so Kiyomasa can continue on ahead.
Kani fights Niwa but is defeated.
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>>15449648
Does Hachisuka Koroku have the Genba?
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>>15449922
Yes.

This is the Genbu. (I think.)
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Does Horizon even have anything going for it but humongous boobs?
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>>15450188
Yes. Eastern and Western history lessons.
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>>15450188
No, it's literally just 800 pages of boobs for 23 volumes now. That's what we're all here for. No story or anything.
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>>15449648
Didn't Kani lose to Fuwa, not Niwa?
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>>15450833
Yeah, I meant Fuwa there.
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>>15450910
What is this supposed to say in
>>15449648#
>I just thought what I wanted to do and what everything thought I would do happened to match up there.
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>>15443079
Very cool. Is the new version up yet? I've been poking around here, but it doesn't look like it's been posted.

http://vectorspace.seesaa.net/
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>>15449922
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Done. Check your mails, Ivan.
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>>15451732
What's she even doing in that picture?
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>>15451920
Wrestling.
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>>15451920
Sex.
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>>15450910
>>15451027
I meant to link 4B 57 when I asked this.
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>>15449648
Chapters 40-42:
Sakon defeats Niwa.
Katou Yoshiaki "helps" Kani regain consciousness and escape the ship she's trapped inside.
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>>15453931
I her head separated from her body?
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>>15454292
Yeah, she gets decapitated a lot.
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Any tips for the monochrome illustrations before I start the cleaning?
I didn't really do anything to this besides leveling so far, so it's not the finished one yet.

I'll ask for some pointers in the scanlation thread as well, you never know, maybe I can get some good advice.
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How's 4-B so far? I recently finished 4-A and I'm not sure if it's worth starting immediately or if I should just wait for the complete epub/pdf for easier reading.
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>>15455373
Can you wait it so long?
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>>15455373
This book seems to be all about secret pasts being revealed. It's going along well.
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>>15455429
>>15455443
Thanks. Looks like I'll be staying up late then.
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I tried something new, how's this look?
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>>15455698
More contrast = sharper black lines?
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>>15455764
I used surface blur with an untouched scan instead of grain reduction while scanning.
The other one in comparison.
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>>15455698
Better
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>>15455900
It works pretty well on the chapter pages.
But the normal illustrations are a major pain like always.
And I even got this one with a printing error, dammit.
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>>15456031
What's the error?
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>>15456246
Error might be a bit too much. It's titled.
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And with this I'm done for today.
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>>15456329
That's fine, I can stare at Futayo's thighs until tomorrow. Good work.
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>>15456319
You mean the title on the side? Don't they all have that when they aren't chapter pages?
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>>15456406
Not that much and it's properly aligned with the other side.
If I rotate the p185 illustration it would force me to cut a bunch from the left side.
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I'm about half way through 1A and I feel like huge idiot. I have no clue what is going on.
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>>15456416
Is that Maeda Toshiie? Every once in a while the art evolution is pretty shocking.
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>>15456429
If you've got specific questions, just ask. Helping people figure out the Kawakamiverse is a time-honored thread tradition.
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>>15456429
If you have questions just ask. That's what we're here for. Tbf the translation of 1-A is partially not up to the standard of the other volumes if I remember correctly.
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>>15456443
>>15456446
That's good to hear. I'll power through 1A and see how I feel then. I honestly love the character designs and there's a lot of reading material to look forward to once it clicks.
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>>15456441
Yeah, it is.
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>>15456336
This series has seriously given me a thing for hips and thighs. I've seen the light.
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>>15456450
Skintight bodysuits are a wonderful thing.

You might consider reviewing the character introductions, history, and glossary to help get a grasp of things.

https://baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Horizon:Volume_1A_Glossary
https://baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Horizon:Volume_1A_Character_Introduction
https://baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Horizon:Volume_1A_History

Another option is to start with the anime (grab the Zurako subs). It covers less material and really helps with matching faces and names.
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>>15456454
This so much. I like Satoyasu more and more with each new volume. That he doesn't have an artbook should be considered a crime.
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>>15456468
I'd be happy with textless versions of all the covers like they did with 9-B. Who knows, maybe they'll release one when the series is over.
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>>15456416
>>15456319
I honestly can't see what the problem with it is.
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>>15456504
That by itself would be fantastic, and if they put in the covers from OnC and City as well, I'd be a happy man.
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>>15454701
>>15455826
I`m trying the topaz thing for cleaning up the scanned raw and burning/dodging what comes out of it. All I`ve posted from 9A so far was done with it.
It`s a horrible time eater too, so surface blur may be a good approach. Main problem here would be flattening of the tones, but on many illustrations it may not even be visible.
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>>15457433
The tones indeed suffer a bit, but it decreases the cleaning time tremendously on the other hand as you said.
Maybe increasing the scan resolution to 1200dpi might help against that?
I'll try to play around with the resolution and Topaz to clean the black and whites a bit as well when I get back.

>>15456629
Try rotating and cropping it, you'll see that you will cut a bunch from the left side.
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How do the non-Shinto magic systems work again? I remember that there was at least a relatively detailed explanation regarding Testament contracts somewhere, but I'm not sure in which volume.
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>>15458491
I remember some stuff about Tsirch spells during Muneshige and the pope's fights in 1A and B.
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>>15458862
From 1A chapter 19:

>Muneshige’s speed achieved acceleration with the Testamento Firma and was controlled with his body.
>A Testamento Firma was normally carried out by using a spell contract obtained at a church.
>A spell contract was obtained in exchange for Catholic-style devotions or an offering of Bless. By stamping the written seal of approval it would activate and disappear. Catholic contracts were disposable, but they were highly effective and did not consume any of the user’s Bless when used.
>Muneshige’s spell contracts were compressed to the size of a postage stamp and tens of thousands of them were stored in a cartridge below the radiator on his back.
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>>15458491
The Encyclopedia covers it.
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>>15459178
Is it even translated somewhere? I have it here, but only for the sake of collecting. Can't read moon.
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>>15459185
Nope. Given how long it is, I doubt anyone would even want to try.
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>>15459185
That part was translated and uploaded into the wiki.

There was also a translation project that did the first 30 pages or so.
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http://genesis-horizon.wikia.com/wiki/Ability
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>>15459225
Neat, thanks.
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https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Horizon:Volume_4B_Chapter_58

The next chapter is going to be skirt flipping fight instead of a fight, isn't it?
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>>15461709
In the Kawakamiverse, isn't skirt-flipping a kind of combat anyways?
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>>15461709
>Nobu-tan: “K-Koni-tan! Koni-tan! I did my best to bug the place and my Masazumi is talking about marriage! Wh-wh-wh-wh-what do I do!? If she suddenly brings someone home to meet me, can I shove a spear up his ass and stir him up like in the new show Archipelago Creator Izanagi!? M-my chest feels all tight like a chicken being strangled! It’s squeezing and squeezing!”

Masazumi and Masanobu are the most delightfully disfunctional father-daughter duo ever. I love it.

>Child of the Sun: Alexthunder-Rx hero show
Okay, this is just too obvious.
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>>15461736
I lost it when Tenzo was feeling himself down below in a public fashion. Class Plum is lucky their ninja is too pure.
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Really dun goof`d with this one. After denoising with topaz, I forgot to change image type back to grayscale and went levelling/burning right away, so the contrast between black and not black became too harsh. I think I`ll play with gray point a bit more to fix it in the final variant.
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Surface blur is an interesting option here, it makes that excessive gray component look uniform.
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>>15461723
I meant to say "instead of a debate" there.
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>>15462396
More of a way to get out of pinch in a debate.
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So I gotta ask - what was going to happen when Toori confessed to Horizon? She's dead.
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>>15464228
He would have had a parallel argument with her to convince her to go out with him and none of the cool fighting would have happened until afterwards.
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https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Horizon:Volume_4B_Chapter_59
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>>15465015
>So she exhaled and relaxed her shoulders. Tsukinowa did the same. Good, good. You’re so cute. She rubbed her cheek against the Mouse thrice. All of that counted as a single action. And…
>“Are you jealous, Ookubo?”
>“No, not really.”

Masazumi really is the cutest.
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>>15464228
In the first arc before they knew she was actually Horizon? Toori was going to declare his world conquer plan anyway. She being really Horizon and the whole Logismoi Oplo thing just gave Class Plum a more of a emotional and actual pretext for it.
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>In 9A,Kazuya lullaby somehow connect with royal werewolf lullaby
so Nate daughter?
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>>15462204
>>15462220
Without looking very hard I'm actually unable to tell the difference.
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>>15466685
Kazuya knew the second verse of a werewolf song that supposedly only the Reine des Garous and her direct descendants (in this case, only Nate) should know.
Then in 9-B when Kazuya uses an attack on the level of the Reine des Garous, her presence reminds Nate of both her mother and of Toori.
And a few volumes before that, it was established that Kazuya and Hirano (!Asama) have one parent in common.


If the old theory about the Speers being Class Plum's children from the future isn't true, then Kawakami is red herring-ing as hard as he can.
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>>15467896
theory about the Speers being Class Plum's children from the future
Wait what?
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>>15467967
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theory about the Speers being Class Plum's children from the future


This makes a surprising amount of sense, so why have I never heard of this before?
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>>15468487
Chapters 43-44:
Kani has a rematch with Fuwa and wins this time.
Oichi attacks Kiyomasa.
Kiyomasa tries to negotiate a truce to get Katsuie and Oichi to help with Honnouji, but they refuse and insist on fighting to the bitter end.


>>15467967
>>15468353
The theory's been around for a while and I'm pretty sure I first heard it mentioned in these threads.

This is how it would seem to work:
Hashiba = Horizon and Toori's daughter.
Fukushima = Futayo's daughter.
Kiyomasa = Mary and Tenzou's daughter.
Mitsunari = A fancy sign frame program someone wrote?
Technohexen pair = Naito and Naruze's daughters. (2-A Chapter 4 established that it's possible for two girls to have a baby.)
Hirano = Asama and Toori's daughter.
Koroku = Naomasa's daughter.
Kasuya = Nate and Toori's daughter.
Takenaka = Shakespeare and Neshinbara's daughter.
Katagiri = Masazumi's son? Suzu's son? Masazumi and Suzu's son (for some reason)?

But for all I know, it may have been completely debunked in the latter half of 9-B.
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>>15468667
Huh, very interesting. It does seem to match up well; we'll see if it comes true!

Thanks for translating as always.
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Okay, this one's a bitch.
The details simply disappear no matter how I approach it.

If someone wants to give it a try:
https://www.mediafire.com/?lhf8hmf92736g
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>>15468667
yeah,9B really btfo Hashiba=Toori and Horizon daughter
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>>15468667
>theory
But how and why would they even be there?
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>>15468667
I still wonder why Oichi and Katsuie want to fight to the bitter end? Doesn't actually benefit them that they are offering them a another way out? What they are trying to pull off?
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>>15468667
>Masazumi and Suzu's son (for some reason)?
Oh my.
Well, time travel wouldn't be out of the question when you already have technology that can go forward in time (the Testament), but wouldn't it go against the concept of fate if you could CHANGE time by going back? Either the SPEERs timetraveling is also part of the world's fate, or, much more likely, Contradiction Allowance is doing its thing again.
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>>15468713
Some loss is inevitable anyway.
Picrelated is sorta kinda early proof of concept. How does it look to you compared with physical media in hand?
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>>15469674
The details are actually more visible on your attempt.
The light tones around the legs and lines are barely even visible. To be honest, I didn't even notice them until I opened the scan.

Physical is somewhat like my very first attempt but with a bit more visible details.
I'll do this last or take your attempt if you plan to finish it since I've still over 20 other illustrations to do.
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And with this I'm gone for today.
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>>15469626
Time travel was already established in Honk Kong and Owari no Chronicle 6B, but it uses great amount of ether, akin to destroying one's world, so maybe the SPEER come from a destroyed Genesis world.
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>>15469797
That`s where I am now. Moved gray point a bit too much the first time.
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>>15468667
>But for all I know, it may have been completely debunked in the latter half of 9-B.

Why do you say this? what did you found in 9-B that makes you drop this theory?

After reading OnC and what is translated of City, Kawakami always push his characters to lie or even hide the truth in order to achieve something, what is happening with the Speers and Class Plum is probably something like that considering how well the theory fits in the story.

Still rememeber what people though when you were finishing OnC translations and in the end was true.
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>>15471713
>what did you found in 9-B that makes you drop this theory?
js06 is saying it might be debunked by something he hasn't read yet. Not that it definitely was.
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Chapters 45-47:
The Musashi arrives at Honnouji and tries to fire its main cannon into the ground to mess with the ley lines and keep the Genesis Project from working, but Mitsunari and her fleet of unmanned ships stop the attack.
Before they head out, Toori gets in some last minute lewd with his harem.
Yasuke and his unit of shadow-walking half-dragons attack the Musashi troops in the woods, but they're no match for Muneshige and Gin.
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>https://baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Horizon:Volume_4B_Chapter_60
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>>15470588
Thanks a lot for doing this.
At my current pace I'll probably have 9-B ready next week.
I still have to scan the whole thing; I only did the illustrations so far.
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>>15473337
>Before they head out, Toori gets in some last minute lewd with his harem.
EXPLAIN FURTHER.
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>>15473857
He did one of the following with each of them, but I won't say which was which:
1: Kiss, then get kissed by her so hard he nearly suffocated.
2. Kiss (with tongue!)
3. Groping, back licking, and mutual finger sucking.


This is afterwards: >>15473771
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>>15474126
Why do I have the feeling that the lewdest girl in the group is Asama...

Oh almost forgot, I remember on vol 8 that toori admited his feelings for Asama when she saved him, and is a mutual thing. This kind of scene happens with Nate? because aside Horizon and Asama I never saw any comment about her.
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>>15474205
>Why do I have the feeling that the lewdest girl in the group is Asama...
I'm pretty sure all of us do.
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Let's end this day with some Adele.
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>>15474398
>end
The suffering is only beginning, what end are you talking about?
I think I`m more or less done with 441, check your mail for proper TIFF a bit later.


...dragon in 4B went full motherfucker. Glorious.
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Is there a character info about Kawakami's characters?

They have detailed character sheets but I can't find any info about Futayo's height and age.
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>>15475134
There are the Encyclopedia height charts at least. I can dump them and Futayo's pages if you want. Not sure what info they actually contain though.
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>>15475141
>160 cm
Cute!

Please do anon!
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>>15475151
Relatively sure it's 170.
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>>15475175
And done.
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>>15475158
>>15475161
>>15475163
>>15475165
>>15475171
>>15475175
>>15475178
Thanks for the dump.

She's pretty tall, as expected of Musashi's cutest spearwoman.
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>>15474205
Have you never seen pic related?
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>>15474610
The end of my cleaning all-nighter.
Thanks, I got the mail.
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Delicious tiny Gin!
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>>15475368
I'm jealous of Muneshige for having such a perfect wife and I'm jealous of Gin for having such a perfect husband.
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>>15474126
3 is Nate. Without a doubt.
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>>15475368
Muneshige is so moe
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Chapters 48-51:
Toshiie sends in some ghost troops remotely, but Uqui and Narumi take care of them.
Nate and Narimasa play a few rounds of Adele Ball.
Nate, Adele, Mary, and Persona-kun take turns battling Narimasa with some occasional help from Tenzou, Hassan, and even Ohiroshiki.
Adele gets in the final blow and defeats Narimasa.
Muneshige and Gin continue fighting the shadow-walking half-dragons.
The Musashi group makes their way further into Honnouji and prepare to enter the room where Ranmaru and Yasuke await.
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>>15475587
Adele strong.
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>>15475587
So they basically ganged on Narimasa until they won?
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I want to know when fucking Shibata blows himself and his headcase wife.
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>>15475540
No way it is. Not with groping in the list.
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>>15476024
1 then.
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>>15475587
Js06 is there any explanatio about pic related and why Musashi wanted to fire the main cannon to stop the Genesis project? at this stage I believe you already know what is the Genesis project.
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>>15476152
I think it is
1 Horizon
2 Nate
3 Asama

>>15476204
Because the ones who will start the Genesis project will be Musashi and they can't allow Hashiba's version to go through, of course.
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>For some reason, he was rubbing his hands together as he sold the radishes and green onions.

Kawakami is pretty damn fash among other things.
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4-b is done
>https://baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Horizon:Volume_4B_Chapter_61

Based js06
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>mfw reading 4-B
I thought Horizon was hard to follow before, but I can't keep track who's who anymore.
Where are my England and Spain? Why must everything revolve around obscure Sengoku era references? Why must we go through this Date-Mogami-Sviet Rus circlejerk? And why is every fucking character named Yoshi-something?
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>>15476992
Forgot

Afterword
>https://baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Horizon:Volume_4B_Afterword
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>>15477007
I never had any problem following characters, and even more in Horizon where you have a character profile page for that thing.
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>>15477007
The only problem I had was confusing Houjou and Honjou and thinking Noriki's waifu was involved in this volume.
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Did Innocentius ever appear again or is he still MIA?
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>>15476992
>>15477017
http://www.mediafire.com/download/nxcm3mxczm6nas8/Horizon_4-B.epub
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>>15477704
He's still MIA.

>>15477912
Excellent, thanks.
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>They were Surprise Manju Chocolates, which were sold in Satomi as well. Warring States commanders had been manju-ized (as opposed to anthropomorphized) and the manju acted as a talisman with an illegible description of the commander written in Far Eastern.

Only in the Kawakamiverse is such a thing even possible.
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>>15478389
>still MIA
Damn.

>>15477912
Thanks.
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Chapters 52-56:
The Musashi group battles Yasuke, but Kimi gets the better of him.
Fukushima finally finds her way to Katsuie's troops.
Kiyomasa finally discovers the truth of the misunderstanding between her and Fukushima.
Fukushima battles Katsuie and Oichi.
Just as Fukushima is about to be defeated, Kiyomasa shows up and saves her.
Upon being reunited after so long, Fukushima and Kiyomasa kiss and prepare to face Katsuie and Oichi together.
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>>15480324
Kiyomasa finally discovers the truth of the misunderstanding between her and Fukushima.So what was this about?
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>>15480324
>>15480745
What race is Yasuke? shadow half dragon?
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Horizon 9-B Summary: http://pastebin.com/BVcFzDFb

>>15480573
This was several volumes ago, so I might be remembering some of the details wrong:
They both went to each other's rooms to see each other before they parted ways and ended up falling asleep.
In the few seconds they had to speak before leaving, Kiyomasa asked Fukushima where she had been.
Fukushima thought it would be weird to say she had slept in Kiyomasa's room, so she said she had been in her own room.
Kiyomasa knew that was a lie (since she had been in Fukushima's room the entire time) and thought Fukushima lying meant she didn't care about her.
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>>15481461
>9-B summary
>Nobunaga shows up and explains a great many things
That's really not what I expected. Does everything actually make sense in context? I haven't read books and summaries past 4-A yet, but that sounds somewhat far-fetched.
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>>15481461
Can you explain something about the summary that is confusing.

Horizon = P-01s original Horizon with automaton body but no memories.
Nobunaga = P-01m Horizon's real body with her memories and automaton's mind
Hasiba = P-02m is basically another Horizon that let Nobunaga go outside?

Basically there are 3 Horizon but who's the real one? Nobunaga or P-01s? and the other question, who really are the Speers?
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>>15481461
>Fukushima and Kiyomasa win by chopping off Katsuie and Oichi's right arms.
The classic returns. So then they survive?
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>>15481809
One is Horizon's soul and the other is Horizon's body. They are both real. Hashiba is just a long distance physical terminal.
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>>15482152
That means P-01s is not the real one, and P-01m isn't either, both together are the real Horizon.
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>>15481656
None of it completely came out of nowhere and it fits with everything that's been revealed so far.

>>15481809
>>15482152
>>15482174
Nogunaga directly asks Toori if she is "Horizon Ariadust" in his opinion and this was his answer:
"No, you're not. Horizon's over here. You're an automaton that took good care of her old memories. After all, you've become something more than those memories while watching everything from inside Hashiba."


>>15481816
No. I forgot to mention it in the summary, but they use their left arms to kill each other as an expression of love. All while discussing the happy and peaceful life they're going to live together if they survive this, knowing full well they won't survive.
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>>15482257
So basically...

This is all under the subjective point of view of Toori, who said that P-01s is the real horizon while Nobunaga even having the real Horizon's body + her memories became something else, per se a different person.

About this
>but they use their left arms to kill each other as an expression of love. All while discussing the happy and peaceful life they're going to live together if they survive this, knowing full well they won't survive.
So after all, Katsuie and Oichi killed each other and now they're dead, right?
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>>15482257
Anything interesting in the afterword?
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>>15477912
Anyone got a link to the older epubs, Baka Tsuki's mobile app isn't cooperating with me so I've dusted off my old kindle and want to put everything on there and reread it all from the beginning again.
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Just a little heads up, they're doing another poll like last year for sunfes.

https://bvc.bandaivisual.co.jp/enquete/159/1/
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>>15482433
Try this:
http://www.mediafire.com/folder/2ea1fmakzaem2
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>https://baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=City_Series:Volume7_Layer_1
Tokyo has been updated.
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>>15482257
Why they were so intent to die then? Also, what about Maeda, Narimasa and the rest? And we get to see Katsuie's Five Peak weapon?
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Having fun with the text formatting again, I see.
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So you guys are here now?

Posting best girl.
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>>15485978
You should have posted two.
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>>15485978
Everyone's the best.
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>>15484694
to be honest,kawakami really good at rhythm
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Started reading again, and just got to 4A when Tenzou starts feeling himself down below.

Dude never catches a break, does he?
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Oh, the wonder of air conditioning.

Still figuring best blacks on this one. Those damn things in the back.
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>>15487710
Satoyasu really likes to make people suffer sometimes.
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>>15487895
Jesus.
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>>15485978
I don't get it.
Is this a new joke?
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>>15487932
Bloody Mary-dono
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>>15487959
I need to drink more
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Finished the first season of the anime and i feel like they rushed a lot of things but still it was really good. Especially the soundtrack.
The end has redeemed Tori's character for me I think that's the first time i see an ability like that, his contract is pretty fun.

I want to read the LN now but first i want to know when i'm supposed to read the "Kimitoasamade" part ?
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>>15487990
You can happily read Kimitoasamade after reading all of the translated Horizon volumes. They're not necessary for the main story line, just extra stories released with the BDs.
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>>15487990
After 3-c
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>>15488006
>>15488049
Thanks guys, i'll do that.
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Warmongering Masazumi jokes are getting really brutal.
But she really is a blood-thirsty demon.
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Got myself another print. Turned out really well, the picture doesn't quite do it justice.
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>>15488554
That looks great! Care to post the other Horizon ones you have?
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Sure.
1/2
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>>15488995
2/2
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>>15488554
This one is beautiful anon, i'm jealous.
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>>15487666
I feel down below sometimes too.
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I have two questions:
1. What does reclaiming Horizon's memories/emotions entail?
2. Are the Divine Weapons still usable after Horizon uses them?

Maybe I'm just reading too far into things. I just finished Season 1 and about to start reading the LN.
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>>15490170
Horizon's emotions were used to make the Armaments of Deadly Sins, so reclaiming her emotions means recovering them.

Horizon uses the Armaments of Deadly Sins, which are a special type of weapon superior to Divine Weapons. Divine Weapon is a category term for a powerful weapon (usually based in history) that has a Normal Drive and an Advanced Drive.

For instance, Tonbokiri is a Divine Weapon, and it can cut names (Normal Drive) or concepts (Advanced Drive).

The Armaments of Deadly Sins made from Horizon's emotions are in general more powerful than regular Divine Weapons, and they're all reusable as long as there's enough ether.
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>>15490200
Ah, I see. Thanks for the explanation!
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>>15490139
Nobunaga a cute.
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So I was trying to explain Horizon to a friend and I realized I didn't understand much the government system and shit. The Far East pre-volume 1 is especially obscure to me.
What are the differences between the Chancellor and the Student Council President? What was the role of Musashi's provisional council? And between Musashi and Mikawa, who represented the Far East?
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>>15490589
A bunch of this is already explained in the glossary.
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