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It only took 20 years for this to happen.
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what am i looking at
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thanks op i just bought it off amazon. apparently they ship internationally now
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>>15410257
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>>15410311
>>15410336
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fvkkgQPo9A
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>>15410346
This looks worth a pirate
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Why does the drum have a cat face?
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>>15410346
cute mascot :3 :3 :3 :3
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>>15410257
Does this mean there are Touhou songs in the game like in Sound Voltex?
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ZUNs really whoring out the 2hus to random shit these days, huh?
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Anime announcement in a year max.
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Taiko rules you plebs
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>>15410506
Taiko has had touhou songs for years now

>>15410531
There's already a claymation anime that aired a year or two ago.
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touhous have been in taiko since 2014

unless OP is talking about kirby
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>>15410506
dude anyone can do whatever they want with Touhou, remember? He has no copyright over anything but the games. If Nintendo wanted they could probably put Reimu as a Mario Maker character tomorrow.
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>>15410506
>Nendoroid game
>This game
>the PS4 'fangames' (Where do you draw the line on what's considered "official" "canon" or whatever at this point?)
>>Other game cameos I can't remember at this specific moment

>>15410531
Wouldn't surprise me, slowly moving those goal posts.
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>>15410610
What makes you think they're anything but fangames?
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>>15410597
>He has no copyright over anything but the games
So wrong. If he created characters he automatically got copyrights for them.

ZUN is whoring 2hu because he was seduced by his succubus wife.
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>>15410610
>>(Where do you draw the line on what's considered "official" "canon" or whatever at this point?)
How is this even in question?
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>>15410642
> If he created characters he automatically got copyrights for them.
What? No. It's the reason why you can sell touhou fangames in the first place without ZUN even knowing and it won't matter, try doing that shit with a Square Enix game and you'll get a C&D request mailed to you with a yakuza signature. Meanwhile he does step in when someone tries to make a direct port off his games.
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>>15410654
>It's the reason why you can sell touhou fangames in the first place without ZUN even knowing
Because he explicitly allowed it in his guidelines (and there are lots of restrictions about it).
And Square Enix doesn't allow to use its characters.

Seriously, lurk a little bit more before posting.
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>>15410660
What guidelines? What restrictions? You mean like how he demands that people not spoil the endings to his games?
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>>15410573
What was that claymation anime called?
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>>15410664
I'm not going to continue discussion with utter retard who doesn't know how copyright works. I was trying to be polite, because it's /jp/ and stuff. But enough, kill yourself, imbecile.
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>>15410671
I sure got told.
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>>15410671
FUCK OFF!
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>>15410257
It's not the first time Touhou is in a rhythm game that isn't a doujin game.

But this thread shows /jp/ does get a constant influx of new people afterall.
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>>15410769
>It's not the first time Touhou is in a rhythm game that isn't a doujin game.
I don't see that being stated anywhere as the point of this thread.

Ever thought it might just be the fact that Kirby's there?
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>>15410257
Confirmed for Smash
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>>15410776
We're on /jp/, as much as I like Kirby I doubt that's the point of the thread. Specially since the filename says "taiko 3DS touhou" and not "taiko 3DS kirby".
So unless OP is excited about a Taiko RPG-like game, which I say it does look nice, the thread is about Touhou being a cameo in a non doujin/indie game, which again, it already happened various times.
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>>15410783
>I like Kirby I doubt that's the point of the thread
I am the OP and I can say that the point of this thread is the fact that Touhou is getting a crossover with Nintendo characters.

Hell I've posted before about Touhou songs being in other rhythm games like Daigasso Band Brothers, it's nothing unique.
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>>15410673
>>15410675
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Touhou_Wiki:Copyrights

From the zun/GPL

>The copyright of the Touhou series, including its characters, content, quotes, and music belong to my circle. That said, this series is supported by many doujin creators. (Thank you)

>For the usual activities in doujin (uploading material on a homepage, selling them in a convention or in a shop at your own expense), or doujin material (derivative comics, stories, games, CGs, goods, cosplay), you do not need to notify me or request my permission.

>To avoid trouble, please satisfy the following conditions.
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>8. For the commercial production of derivative material, or the mass circulation of derivative material outside of doujin shops, you must seek my permission. To publish on commercial magazines and books, you must notify me. (You do not need to do so for magazines that describe doujin and derivatives.)
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ZUN sort of helped on that PS2 game ages ago and there was a Reimu cameo in it.

If he had an active (But minor) contribution in a modern game, would you be upset if the game had some Touhou elements in it?
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>>15410803
And he enforces that never the same way he never enforces him not wanting people to spoil the games' endings.
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>>15410816
It shows how new you are. Touhou smash drama was only 1.5 years ago.

Also there was Touhou x Tenchou OVA, Touhouvania selling overseas, Touhou board card game and countless other examples where ZUN enforced his guidelines.
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>>15410816
So we've gotten from he has no copyright to I don't know the difference between commercial and noncommercial
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>>15410257
at least is not that shitty bunny this time.
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Is it just me or is Touhou slowly losing interest in general?

One of the major points on why I liked Touhou was that they managed to go without "big" games, developers and publishers. Everything was kept small and doujin, produced with honest love.

Now that more and more fangames find their way to the consoles, 14.5 getting a re-release on PS4 and all these non subtle crossovers for no fucking reason, just make Touhou look like a soulless mass of waifus to me.

If I had the money, I would buy out the Touhou franchise in a second and would return to the "old" way of handling the franchise; doujin and on PC only.
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>>15410991
It's just you. Touhou always had fangames, it's just that now they're also on consoles. Hell not being limited to PC is a proof of less restraints than it was before.
> just make Touhou look like a soulless mass of waifus to me.
It always was that, anyone could take up touhous and put them in their games with ease, no need for an expensive deal.
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>>15410991
It's fucking old with virtually no change.
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>>15411001
Yet why aren't there new fangames nowadays?
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>>15411017
...But there are? Every Reitaisai/Koroumu/Comiket etc. there's new fangames. That Aquastyle Touhou roguelike gets a new entry fater than Call of Duty.
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>>15410844
>1.5 years ago.
Holy fuck it's been that long already
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>>15411030
What about the rest? Fangames used to be rampant back in the days. Now it's just those guys.
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>>15411045
There's that 3d overhead action game that stars Remilia. Another entry of Touhou Sky Arena and that puzzle game with Sanae and Okuu off the of my head. I didn't really check for fangames this past comiket, those are just the ones I saw while scrolling for other things.
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>>15411045
Didn't the entire gaming movements swift from handhelds to mobile shit?

There are more collect the battle waifu - apps than stars in the sky.

My information is probably old and unreliable, but the amount of doujin developers shrinked about 50% while the amount of app developers exploded by 900% in the last 5 years.

And don't forget all the people who jumped over to other fandoms.
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>>15411080
>other fandoms
*Kancolle. Anything else is making girls und panzer or granblue fanart.
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since the thread on /v/ turned into a /jp/ thread (and is dead) can we have a kirby thread here?
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>>15411189
No.
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>>15411189
Kirby isn't /jp/ related, Touhou is /v/ related.
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>>15411215
Dreamland 3 and 64 are very /jp/ like
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>>15411080
Making a mobile game is way more profitable than a traditional doujin game, but the predatory nature of f2p monetization is incompatible with doujin making and property rights, so content creators are abandoning Touhou and many other possible fan games to follow the money
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>>15410991

There is quite a bit less interest in touhou in general than there used to be, but that's because interest in touhou exploded in 2007 around MoF's release. The number of touhou circles at comike back then grew to ridiculous levels for example, even as comike itself was getting a boom in attendance.

The touhou "fanbase" seems to have plateau'd around 2010 and now is slowly decreasing as people loose interest, and not many people are getting into the newer games. Also the western fanbase pretty much decimated itself but that was always just a small part.

Overall touhou is still pretty big though, lots of people at reitaisai.

Perfectly scientific survey board from last reitaisai attached.
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I don't understand why this is surprising or news to anyone here. Haven't we had a taiko touhou thread before?

I don't understand how anyone can enjoy those games, personally. I've watched videos of it and it makes my fingers hurt.
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>>15411313
It's the crossover aspect.

> I've watched videos of it and it makes my fingers hurt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGY1gmVZVlo
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>>15411322
Yeah, the arcade version would be fun for a little bit (or the expensive drum accessory) but I think most of the score-chasing people use buttons due to ease of use.
This is 3DS, too, something barely more ergonomic than the original NES controller.
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>>15411350
think you can use a peripheral as well as the touch screen too.

also mashing buttons is something that people who've played monster hunter on it are already used to.
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>>15411308
What exactly am I looking at here?

My moonrune knowledge is pretty basic and extremly rusty.
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>>15411350
>>15411353
The PSVita is so much easier to use. I'm at least 25% better and can play twice as long on the Vita compared to the 3DS
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>>15411313
That Reimu drum is fuckable.
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>>15411355
"First 2hu game you played"
(color indicates age-range)
*various games in a pie chart*
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>>15411365
And I guess the one with the tons of stickers is MoF?
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>>15411373
Nah that's eosd.
mof is the one with a decent number of stickers by that one guy's hand.
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>>15411308

Bullcrap. The number of Touhou circles at Comiket dropped because the likes of Reitaisai were created.

Last Reitaisai had 4k Touhou circles. More than any Comiket.

Yes, popularity dropped a little since the peak, but it's like 20% drop at most. And that's mostly because the likes of Kancolle, Granblue or Love Live appeared.
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>>15411350
The absolute majority of good players use the drum peripherals for the console versions over buttons, and while I think 3DS touch screen is gimmicky as fuck there are still a lot of people who make use of them.

Buttons are nice though, they only get in the way on extremely fast songs where you wonder what the fuck Bamco were thinking porting them over to the handheld versions.
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>>15411493
> they only get in the way on extremely fast songs where you wonder what the fuck Bamco were thinking porting them over to the handheld versions.
koreans.
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>>15411417
This. People are looking at statistics in the most retarded ways possible to justify their doomsayer whining.
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>>15411493
That's surprising to me, I don't know how you can even move fast enough to do some of these things.
Play this on the drums (or anything), /jp/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaB8xEik488
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>>15411591

Saying touhou is still big = doomsaying, got it.

Reitaisai has nowhere near comike attendance levels no matter how many circles are there.
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>>15411417
A touhou event has more circles doing touhou than comiket? You don't say.
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>>15411308
>>15411365
I'm surprised at how young the demographic is, or is it the age when they first played rather than current age?
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>>15411045
The Reitaisai 13 convention preview on ishino's blog lists 72 fangames. This is down from ~100 at Reitaisai 10, but it's still quite a bit.

Don't mistake the complete absence of Western interest or uploads with the actual absence of fangames. Sure, a lot of them are probably shovelware-tier, but it's doujin.

>>15411831
Kancolle's showing at Comiket is actually larger than it's showing at most dedicated Kantai Collection conventions.
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>>15410991
Compared to what it was before 2010? Yeah.
It did lose quite a bit of steam.
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>>15411800
that's baby play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yauyikTT2hI
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Are you guys really suprised a franchise is starting becoming less popular after 10 years? Many can only hope to stay alive for 3.
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>>15411955
I'm a little grill
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>>15410461
Can you pirate it onto a mismatched region system?
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Touhou and Kirby mix well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAU311Cz5HM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz9fzj-SWb0
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>>15412218
You can these days, if you hacked the 3DS before 10.07
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The main problem I see is not decline of 2hu in the east, no, it's still healthy there. I'm worried about 2hu in the west. People lose interest and there is not enough newcomers to substitute them. And it means that we get less translations.

One year ago I made a chart: >>13733916. Here's an updated version after 1 year. It's doing even worse than I anticipated - we got 0 translated doujinshis in May and 0 so far in June. I checked voile.gensokyo.org and it's dead. We still get lots of 2hu raws uploaded on sadpanda every week, but we get a lot less percentage of translations compared to previous years. Same goes for danbooru, people translate and put notes for all other franchises, but not 2hu.

Bottom line: if you know japanese you have nothing to worry about (yet). But for EOP it's not a bright future.
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>>15412373
My 3DS is on old firmware, I haven't installed custom on it yet though which I've been meaning to do for a little while. When game rips of the new Taiko come out I might do it.
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>>15412392
Forgot to mention that I noticed a positive change since last year:

>>13733916
>Just a year or two ago the top of catalog was always 50% touhou, now it's less than 20%.
It seems /jp/ is back to normal and there are shitton of 2hu threads now. First half of 2015 was really terrible for 2hu in /jp/, but it seems LoLK did fix something.
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>>15412402
Taiko 3DS3 was uploaded like three days ago, check some archived /hbg/ threads on /vg/, they should have a mega link.
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>>15412475
Thank you
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>>15412392
Well I'm glad I'm both parts of the fanbase, although the Chinese fanbase is always up to weird shit and dank memes well showing more interest towards "Touhou literature".
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>>15410844
>Touhou board card game
People actually play those? I thought they only functioned as collectibles, aside finding someone to play with being difficult enough itself.
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>>15411955
It's the current age.

>>15411308
Ironically, this is the exact image that got a lot of attention in the Japanese fandom as a sign of the fandom's rejuvenation. This survey confirms what many event-goers noticed at the last Reitaisai: there's a lot of new young blood in the fandom. The question going forward is whether these kids will end up becoming fanwork creators.
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>>15413799

I know, I got it from the thread on futaba.

The number of red (and to some extent yellow) dots represent both the decline of the fandom from the last decade (fuck touhou is old) and the young blood that keeps coming.

The point I was making is just that the 2007-2010 bubble is still deflating.

One point of discussion was that it seems a lot of people into touhou now got into it from derivative works and don't care too much about the games. I don't really know how true that is but I do know a few like that, mostly into touhou music. Other people only seem to collect merchandise like fumos, figures, clear files or those fucking keychains that are everywhere.

The only consensus in that thread was that the guy who put a dot in the center must be some kind of badass.
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Do people actually care about this touhou dog shit anymore lmfao it was always ironically liked but you newfags have taken it seriously
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I'd rather see my beloved franchise being whored out than seeing it become old and forgotten.

I'll just rescue whatever thing of value I manage to find on the pile of heap.
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>>15410991
Is it official? Is Touhou finally reclining?
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>>15410597
No, you cant sell the characters but you can use them for free.
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it's not like reimu was in graffiti kingdom or anything
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stop it you're playing with my toys wrong
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>>15411308
>>15414900
At the very least, Touhou will still a fondly remembered franchise despite the declining interest. You'll still find people drawing fanart like they do with Vampire, Ranma, or Sakura Taisen. Can't say the same with all these newer cellphone games.
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>>15410991
Reimu was in several games Zun worked on before though. She's in Graffiti Kingdom for PS2, for instance. He never had a problem with putting Touhou crossovers into stuff.
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>>15410346
"~don" sentence endings for a drum mascot
Japan, ..
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>>15411308
I am quite shocked that PCB was below MOF and IN. I always thought most people got in around EOSD and PCB.
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>>15410257
Is this an e3 "leak" or why take a photo of a screen from a retarded angle?
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>>15410346
Oh the rythm crossover. We knew about this for some time. Apparently nintendo has been very gentle with the handling of music pieces instead of bumrushing an existing culture and players like sony with ulul.
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>>15410666
A Grand Day Out.
They eat cheese on the moon.
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>>15411417
How do we kill Kancolle?

Seriously. I want to gas every fan of this shit.
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>>15410346

That girl clearly says "Toe Hoe." I can't believe I fell for the Two Who meme.
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>>15418094

A good start: kill all the traitor artists/circles who use to draw Touhou and now draw Kantrash.
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>>15418299
I will still pronounce it as "Two Who" anyways.
Because they are not feet appendage whores.
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>>15413727
That's because they find it easier to read it, right? I'd love to have better translations for Touhou lit and dialogue. Everything seems to be either grievously mistaken or clunky on the English wiki.
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>>15418299
how long have you been living a lie
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>>15418299
It's Toh ho.
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>he fell for the 2hu meme
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>>15418299
2hu is like saying meguca

I can't believe you fell for a meme either.
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>>15410991

you're a hipster
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>>15419766
This moon princess really needs to be raped.
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>>15419965
or will she do the raping instead.
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>>15410257

Kirbeh!
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>>15419976
She is too pure for that.
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>>15411215

We had a DM thread here before, and Kirby does get occasional doujin materials itself. Doesn't the fact ZUN is a Kirby fan count for anything?
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>>15422041
Waitaminit, DAMMIT!
I'm not Kirby, I'm a fuckin' Luna!
When Rosalina hears about this, she's gonna stomp your clown ass!!!
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>>15419110
And don't forget that the common pitch for 東方 is flat (as opposed to 当方).
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Touhou will outlive Kancolle IMO. Kancolle is just a shotty mobile cash grab scam 課金ゲーム but Touhou will forever be a doujin masterpiece.

I'd worry more about 07th Expansion. There's like 5-10 circles at Comiket total these days. Also I heard rumors Ryukishi07 was banned from Comiket.
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>>15422494
>Touhou will forever be a doujin masterpiece

At this rate?
I expect ZUN to sell 2hu to Sony in the next few years.
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>>15423090
He hasn't even let them have one of his mainline games, just the Tasofro-made ones.

He said that even if the fandom died he'd keep making the games.
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>>15422029
psh.
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>>15422018

I actually find this horrifying, like those weird fetish comics were people turn into balloons.
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>>15422494
>Ryukishi07 was banned for Comiket

Any reason given or is it a baseless rumor?
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>>15423092
>He said that even if the fandom died he'd keep making the games.

That was years ago.
Now he's saying he's getting tired of this shit.
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>>15424984
When? He just released like 3 games.
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>>15424987
DDC came out 3 years ago.
LoLK a year ago.

This is what you consider "just released"?
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>>15424987
When asked about his plans for the next game in an interview after the release of LoLK,

>What is to be expected in your next work?
>ZUN: Because I'm having such a fun personal life right now, I don't know whether or not I can make games. Oh well, I think this time was the most difficult.

He's getting too old for this shit.
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>>15425264
>personal life
3D succubutts, everytime.
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>>15425154
He also released that totally exclusive nips onry game at that one event.
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>>15425264

It's confirmed. Kantrash started the decline, and Granblue finished Touhou off.
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At first I thought this was going to be some kind of Paper Mario game.

I'm disappointed.
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>>15426604

That would probably make Nintendo money

>meanwhile at nintendo hq: giant pile of money burns as nintendo execs dance naked

Hmm gonna think it's no dice on that idea
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>>15426624
I guess you guys missed the cruelest practical joke related to touhou.
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>>15426647
You mean a pixiv ugoira? Why would you think that's a real project?
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>>15426647
I didn't even know how badly I wanted a Paper Mario x Touhou game. And now I'll never get to experience it.
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>>15426658
Because I'm dumb, okay?
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>>15423090
>Sony
Please no. Sell it to G.Rev at the very least.
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>>15426647
It's still hurts even after all this time
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>>15410346
>no raiko
ONE FUCKING JOB, GODDAMMIT
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>>15411308
almost no love for phantasmagoria, damn
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>>15422494
>Also I heard rumors Ryukishi07 was banned from Comiket.
But why?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORpB26JlF0k
Damn, ZUN has really been selling out recently hasn't he.
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>>15431486
remind me, what game was the first in have the fantasy seal and (temporal) miko as an attack?
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>>15431536
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOk2CCL8Fgk
It was Magic Pengel.
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>>15431486
Not selling out when he was a Taito employee during the making of that game, /v/eddit-kun.
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>>15411955
Most probably first played. Since it says 最初.
I met one 2hu fan when I went to Japan recently, and he said that he started when he was 13 or something. Every 2hu fan or people with interest in 2hu I've seen in shops in Akiba and the like were at least 20 years old.
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>>15432072
As already pointed out, it's the current age. Here's the futaba log of the relevant thread: https://futathlog.net/thread/6712037
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>>15431756
>Going against the current means you're a shitposter from /v/, reddit and tumblr
So it really was true.
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>>15435144
Who are you quoting?
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>>15435144
My my, greentext, an indicator of a low IQ...
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Eh, really?
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