Hop in guys. It's time for Summer Mahjong.
Useful links and tips: http://pastebin.com/9WYsXMLF
Well?
>>15334723
I'd probably throw the 4 or 6 man in vain hopes of suji and the 2 chance 5 man.
>>15334723
2m. How dead am I?
>>15334723
No safe tiles. No big hints on what north could be waiting for either. It's possible he's waiting for something connected to 9m, like 5-8m. You could start by dropping 2m. It's efficient and somewhat safer than the rest of your options, because the 1-3m kanchan isn't possible. If it passes, you could drop it again next turn, as well, and hope safe tiles come during those two turns.
>>15334723
3s. p got dora and m full dangerous.
>>15334823
>>15334838
>>15334841
>>15334850
And the result. I guess I should have at least thrown away a man tile instead of betting on terminals.
>>15334867
While this isn't a hard and fast rule and it isn't always true, you should probably be wary of two areas when someone declares a riichi.
1) Tiles near the riichi tile, if it's a number tile, including its suji. (IE, if riichi tile is 5s, 3s-4s-6s-7s-8s)
2) Tiles connected to the dora. In this case, 1p-2p-3p-4p.
Terminals aren't any safer than any other number tile if suji isn't involved, either.
>>15334895
Include 2s in 1) as well, I left it out by mistake.
>>15334723
Given how little information is available I'd toss 1p and go for an open tanyao. His hand is probably not worth all that much, so you might be able to outrun it
>>15334867
>>15334723
Unfortunately, yea. Every tile is a dangerous one.
Argument against 1-pin. Sure, it is a terminal. But it is also a dora indicator. This leaves a wait such as 1-4 to be very much possible. Plus, only 1 dora is accounted for.
>>15334948
Welp, guess I fell for that one too
>>15334723
2m imo.
Norhing is even close to safe, so you should simply discard outter tiles first, starting with terminals, then 2/8 then 3/7 and so on.
However the 1p is near the dora so it goes down in safetey and of course 2p as dora is even more dangerous leaving the 2m. This also has two other benefits: First you have two 2m which slightly reducses the chance for a tanki or shanpon wait and also gives you one more safe tile (the other 2m) in case the first is safe. Secondly the first discarded non honour tile was 1m, so there is a chance that he didn't have anything around it. Of course this is a weak information since the riichi came only a few turns later but it's still better than nothing.
Another possible option would be to keep attacking since the difference in danger of your possible discards is so low that the chance of getting into tenpai yourself outweights them. In this case 7m should be discarded.
https://sites.google.com/site/mjnetguide/events
Events are fun. Since I had some free time and better understand how they work now, I added some pages to the guide about them for those who play MJ and are interested in playing in them.
I don't expect I'll be able to keep the current events list -current- but I will try my best.
Speaking of events, I'm meeting up with a mahjong club later this month for some sweet sweet tile slapping on auto tables. Fun shit
>>15336152
Good shit, anon. Autotable is the real deal.
>>15336152
Auto tables are great. Have fun, anon.
Now that I've moved back to San Diego, I found that there's biweekly meetups. However, it's only Chinese and American mahjong. I'm doomed.
>>15336377
Chinese mahjong is more fun than Japanese mahjong. At least the PRC competition rules are: some of the hong kong stuff is too random for competitive play.
>>15336439
>Chinese mahjong is more fun than Japanese mahjong
Get out of here fag.
>>15336377
If you can get up to Irvine I'll take you the rest of the way
>>15336613
I'm considering it. But seeing as I was dumb and didn't look for a job while I was in my last semester of college, I am currently a NEET. Driving that far would cost too much gas and I currently have less than $25 dollar in my account.
I appreciate the offer, though. I'll hit you up once I can afford to do so.
Are you talking about the event at Torrance? I was lucky enough to go there once.
>>15336812
lmao oops why did I type $25 dollar?
>>15336812
Yes, but it's at a different location this time. I troll this thread regularly so reply to a post if you change your mind
>toimen riichi
>Set down tile
>"Wait... why did I do that? It's an ura suji"
>Get ron'd
>Keep playing like a moron
>Forget to save replay URL and doom self to repeat same mistakes
Who needs R anyway?
>>15336377
>American mahjong
Maybe, you might meet a MILF
Just nother day at ippan.
>>15336923
Oh, I see. Thanks. I'll let you know.
>>15336969
I think the assistant organizers are not bad on the eyes. The rest are not quite there.
>>15337018
NoName doing good work.
>>15336969
On second thought all the people who are going to this upcoming one are chicks according to profile pictures. Two of them don't have any pics but
>Grace
>Geri
Wow
Got a rinshan, girls.
>>15337080
Are they all grannies?
>>15337665
http://www.meetup.com/San-Diego-Mah-Jong-Meetup/events/231133440/?showFullList=yes&showAttendance=true#yes
Check for yourself.
I think Margie isn't bad for an older woman and Barbara is probably the best of the bunch.
I just can't bring myself to go since American and Chinese mahjong seem so weird.
>>15334501
Thi is my favorite mahjong moment
There was a variety of options to be had here. What would you have done?
>Discard 2p and stay in tenpai, keeping the penchan wait?
>Discard 8s to keep 2s to go into iishanten and hope you can call a 2m, 2p or a 5p to re-enter tenpai?
>Discard 2s to stay in tenpai but discard 8s and 7s when you have the chance for a better wait?
>>15338471
>2s, 8s
Where?
>>15338482
Oops, meant
>Discard 9s to keep 2p to go into iishanten and hope you can call a 2m, 2p or a 5p to re-enter tenpai?
>Discard 2p to stay in tenpai but discard 9s and 7s when you have the chance for a better wait?
Didn't really sleep so typing is hard. Harder than winning at mahjong apparently.
>>15338471
You're in the lead, east, and it's early in the round. Dump 2p and go for a quick win
>>15338471
Cut the 9s. My play style revolves around calls anyway so I'd definitely be aiming for the bigger hand.
>>15334723
2m no brainer. This is a full defense situation, amplified by ifv the guy wins, you can close out the round
2m is best because less likely to deal in with and lower expected hand value due to proximity with red5 and 2p dorra
>>15338471
In this situation you have good lead and want to maintain it. This is a quick cheap which you need to defend against ahh touching. Defense and points being taken to account, just discard 2p. Winning fast is the obvious priority here, you need to outrun your opponents and bail quickly
>>15338471
See that 4-pin? You risk getting into furiten by keeping 2-pin.
You're in a fast tenpai now. Just shoot for your 2900 and be happy with it.
>>15337683
If San Diego can form a riichi group, that'll be great.
>>15338512
Mm I ended up discarding 2p. But I didn't keep the kanchan wait, which was my mistake.
>>15338837
Haha interesting.
>>15339217
Yeah, I should have done that. Would have won a few turns later. My switching to a ryanmen wait allowed shimocha to reach tenpai, but it also allowed me to score a riichi stick.
>>15339678
Good point.
>>15339689
Are you here in sandy eggo, too?
Seems like the last kind of riichi mahjong meetup was back in 2012 or something aaaaa.
0+0+2+5
I'm on a roll this month. At this rate I'll downrank within a week.
2 : 0
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>>15340130
>Mm I ended up discarding 2p. But I didn't keep the kanchan wait, which was my mistake. Looking at your discards, I don't see a reason why you needed to break tenpai in the first place.
There's a general misconception that a kanchan wait is a bad wait. At the same time, it can be improved to a ryanmen, if a conveniently adjacent tile pops up (like 6-sou) to switch waiting for 5-8 instead of just 8.
Good wait vs bad wait is dependent on the number of tiles available. When you were kanchan tenpai before. you had all four 8-sou to rely on. All you needed was one. Unfortunately for you, that one popped up; and you weren't tenpai.
At the same time, yes, there are legitimate reasons to break up tenpai. Trying to rework a hand to get a better wait is not one of them. Doing this actually gives other players a chance to catch up and get to tenpai themselves.
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016060409gm-0089-0000-2c071bb9&tw=0
The impossible becomes possible.
Moral of this story: Look before you leap.
>>15340690
We have a houou player now?
>>15340130
>Yeah, I should have done that. Would have won a few turns later. My switching to a ryanmen wait allowed shimocha to reach tenpai, but it also allowed me to score a riichi stick.
Also, I didn't realize the typo I made, but basically i was also saying that if you called you would have less tiles to defend against other riichis (which you want to do at your point situation). So its even more reason to not call
>>15340690
holy fuck, i am sorry for your loss
>>15340731
Nah, just some screenshot of someone fucking up.
>>15340130
this play didn't make much sense to me
You deleted you kanchan 97s, which would win on 8s or make ryanmen on 6s, in order to go for getting a non-terminal, then getting a neighbouring tile to make a ryanmen
Getting the neighbouring tile is the exact same as if you kept 97s and waited for a neighbouring tile on 7s, except with the latter situation, you win on the 8s
>>15340757
I was wondering whether nocculta or Corak got there already.
>>15340759
Beginner to early intermediate players seem to not believe kanchan can win.
>>15340781
Here's a question : disregarding the number of discarded tiles for either waits, what's better, kanchan wait or shanpon wait?
>>15340812
Shanpon's usually better because if it's not with honor tiles, it can turn into edge waits easier.
>>15340761
Corak here. I'm well on my way back to 5 dan.
>>15340458
Yeah, I'm still slightly cagey about kanchan waits. But I think I just messed up in this particular case. Most of the time I embrace the kanchan or penchan wait. The first pic is a nice example, which was an earlier round from the same game. Then again the 6s just came to me so I didn't even have time to second-guess my wait.
>>15340737
Mmm. That's like a page straight out of Washizu mahjong, haha.
>>15340759
Yeah, it wasn't a good call. I played the rest of the game pretty well, if I do say so myself.
>>15340781
Yeah sure.
>>15340874
Don't give in to despair, nigga!
>>15340874
You're a braver man than me. I gave up on my 4-dan main and am working my way back up. Looking pretty dank so far, but
>ippan
>>15340952
0+0+2+6
390/2400 pt
It's not getting any better.
>>15340966
You should take a break mate. I played quite sloppily when I stepped back in joukyuu and lost games consecutively but now I'm picking back up the slack.
>>15340982
That's without a single day where I played more than 2 games. It's been bad and bad for a while now.
>>15340966
Keep at it! There was a point where I was like below 200 points as 3-dan, but I bounced back. I know you have a knack for the game. You're just going through a bad streak right now.
>>15340985
I only play two games at most per day and my pace is real fucking slow but it has been a pretty consistent performance so far.
>>15341000
I'm looking at the replays and I'm definitely not playing any differently. People this week for whatever reason are all hitting their tsumos (even with terrible and occasionally hell waits) and I'm not hitting anything while in riichi. I know I'm on tilt right now, but Saturday is usually my best day so I will see how it goes tomorrow.
>>15334501
anyone up for a game?
1.0
>>15341037
I guess it's just a matter of luck right now. I hope Saturday fares better for you.
>>15341037
I wish you well Corak.
>>15341109
2.0
>>15341125
3.0
>mfw won a game with an average of ~2100 points per winning hand with a maximum of only 3 han
>create new account to warm up and fuck around
>Get beat by fucking ippan players
This is going to be my fate since the only times I can play are late at night where I keep making the stupid misakes
>>15342087
Ippan is harder and far more unpredictable than tokujou m8.
>>15342111
Yep. In ippan, textbook mahjong needs to be thrown out the window.
>>15342087
Tough being a family man (if you're that anon who has two kids).
>>15342111
They're more unpredictable, I'll give you that.
>>15342245
This game better resulted in +100 or better.
>>15342274
It stopped at +92.
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016060416gm-0009-0000-1985625d&tw=0
>>15342294
Gosh dammit man.
>>15342245
Reminds me of that game I had in ippan when all the other three players ragequitted. I systematically destroyed them one by one and relished every moment of it.
>>15342309
It's okay, here's one of the last games I played in joukyuu. +101 here.
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016022706gm-0089-0000-83a9682b&tw=0
>>15342311
Good shit.
Whoops I clicked the wrong lobby.
>>15334723
2 man.
>start of the month
>3+2+2+4 = 11戦
Fuck this shit.
>>15338471
Discard 2pin and stay in tempai for a quick win.
You're ahead by 10900 pts and the dealer you don't need points you just need to win fast to stay dealer.
Who wants to play ? It's been so long since I last played.
>>15342536
Gogo is that you?
>>15342538
No sorry.
>>15342536
Come on in faggot, I need a breather.
>>15342540
Still a fellow anon returning to the tiles, so all good.
>>15342536
Remy or Cersius?
>>15342563
Cersius.
Thanks for the game, gents. It's a good thing I went to 7447 instead of L0.
>>15342606
I knew that 2m is really dangerous but I had to go for the ryanmen tenpai since it's 7447 after all.
Some tips for you faggots:
1. Don't fall in love with the dora(assuming you're not trailing badly)
2. Don't fall in love with the dragon
3. Don't fall in love with the round wind tile
4. Don't fall in love with your seat wind tile
>>15342614
>1. Don't fall in love with the dora(assuming you're not trailing badly)
But I want to fuck Kuro in the ass.
>>15342245
Guilty
I'm actually quite jealous of folks getting to 4 Dan and such. I should figure out a way to play at work...
>>15340966
It's alright, even if you demote, if you have the skill then you'll get back eventually. The main thing is to just keep playing normally. Try not to let losing streaks get to you.
Post your stats, by the way.
Just love Saturday night JST. Lots of prey came outta the woods.
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016060502gm-0089-0000-6d926cf6&tw=1
>>15342614
but muh riichi dora 12
>>15340966
Well at least it's consistent.
0+0+2+8
Absolutely nothing I'm doing is working. That's 16 straight riichi where I dealt in.
>>15343689
Just unlucky. Sucks.
>wake up
>"i feel like playing mahjong"
>start a game
>net issues suddenly happen
>keep trying to refresh
>come back to see I dealt into toimen's 7700 hand
>game ends with me only 4300 behind toimen
Feels bad knowing I would have been first if I didn't have net issues.
>>15342859
Get your ass into joukyuu and learn it until you get to tokujou.
>>15344088
What lobby?
>>15345055
Tokujou
Aside from not drawing anything I think the other problem is I've been going into/forced into betaori too fast and too often. My normal deal in rate is ridiculously high for a 6 dan, but it has actually been going down this month. I just won my last game when I decided to say fuck it and just attack into anything but dealer/multiple riichi
>>15345090
Your riichi rate is really high, so it's not surprising that you often deal in after you riichi. Remember that declaring riichi doesn't guarantee you to win the round. In tokujou and houou, particularly, people will know how to push against riichi and win.
If the other players look dangerous, if you've got a decent lead and it's not your dealer turn, if you can dama with a hand worth 5200 or more (depending on the point situation), or if you've got a bad wait with good odds of improvement, then you should hold off on riichi.
Also remember the importance of last place avoidance.
>>15334867
You should've thrown the 3 bamboo, turd.
>>15346122
>bamboo
>>15338471
Throw your 2 circles. You've already a complete set of circles. You don't need another one to make a mess out of your tiles.
>>15346133
>circles
>>15338471
Throw your 2 Chinese characters.
>yfw you're in the lead when shimocha scores 3 haneman tsumo in a row and busts out kamicha
>>15346133
They're called dots, son.
>>15346442
CRACKS
2:0 lads
Who wants to play?
>>15342614
I find that new players often heavily undervalue dora, and would actually do very well to appreciate it more. The number of times I've seen stuff from inexperienced players like discarding a dora pair to go for honitsu after a yakuhai pon is staggering.
I can easily see some people being too unwilling to discard dora in a winnable hand that has no room for it, but being respectful of dora is likely more healthy for their development as a player than disregard for it.
>>15347453
You don't understand, man. What I mean by don't fall in love with the dora is in a situation where you have no use for it but still keep it because it's the dora. I mean, what do you want to do with that isolated 9p dora? Wait until you're tenpai? By then someone would already be waiting to ron you with that tile. And boom! you lost to a damaten 12000 hand.
But sure, keep being greedy.
I do understand, as I should hope is indicated by the second paragraph of my post. I responded the way I did because I fear someone might take your advice more literally than was your intention.
Obligatory
>3-dan and 4-dan in ippan
>>15347589
Good wait, hand is worth 5200 points minimum. Suji against riichi discard is spooky but ultimately worth the risk.
How many points did you lose?
>>15347604
I fucked up here since I discarded the 3p instead of the 7p two rounds earlier. Would have let me get into tenpai without discarding the dangerous 7p. But I was thinking I would have to call pon on 2m or 7p to speed things up.
It's okay, luck went my way after this. 4-dan busted etc.
>>15347604
>>15347639
Forgot to attach result.
Session 2 of the tenhoui vs renmei pro tournament ended
1 Shuukatsu(9th tenhoui) +94.6
2 Maeda (pro) +81.3
3 Suzume (4th tenhoui) +81.1
4 kanimajin (8th tenhoui) +36.4
5 ASAPIN (1st tenhoui) +24.1
6 Doppo (3rd tenhoui) +16
7 Sasaki (pro) -7.3
8 Setokuma (pro) -62.2
9 Fujisaki (pro) -87
10 Katsumata (pro) -177
>>15347647
>pro
2:0 faggots, let's jam.
>>15347718
Soon
http://tenhou.net/cs/2016/06ak/
>>15347647
Got any VODs on Youtube?
>>15347706
It's D-rank Hira.
40 minutes later and it's still 2:0. I'm waiting.
3:0
>>15347747
All of them are D-rank?
Not that I know what D-rank means.
>>15347808
Read more mahjong manga.
3:0, come back in Hei.
3:0 still
>tfw you accidentally queue up for ippan as a 2-dan
I've become what I hate.
>>15348346
That's why I was motivated to grind up to to tokujou!
Did you at least win?
>>15348442
I must get to tokujou fast so I can accidentally enter joukyuu instead.
I won with 70k, some guy quit after I got a dealer mangan and I hit him later in S1 with a dealer baiman. I really lucked out, would've cursed the R decrease from playing against 4-kyuu.
>>15347028
>>15347723
And the results:
http://tenhou.net/sc/?C0011-sc5m
>>15348479
Good goal
And nice that you got through it.
But idk, man, maybe some 4kyuus have high R.
2:0.
>>15350927
>Playing on some old mahjong clients just to see what it's like
>Get daisangen on toupai-ou earlier this morning
>Get kokushi in tonpuuchan
Man, I wish I had this luck in joukyuu
Tonpuuchan is pretty cool though, only mahjong client I know of that lets you furiten riichi
>>15351151
Didn't mean to reply there, woops
>>15350927
2:0 again.
2:4!
Could be worse, but god damn this is annoying.
>>15351595
Yes, that feels like dragging on a walkway covered in shit
The wait is over, lads!
>>15351670
Oops didn't attach.
>>15351674
Thanks.
A good month so far.
>>15352779
This is what a shit month looks like:
5+7+3+8 = 23戦
>>15352833
-255 does not qualify as a shit month. Not yet.
Going well so far.
>>15352937
Whose pussy juice are you drinking?
Today was a good day
>>15352842
Well, I just got demoted.
>>15353009
I don't know, honestly. Not sure if my current style resembles that of any lesbian's.
This is probably the best I'm ever going to look since I'm still trying to get out of ippan.
>>15353184
I'm sorry to hear that. ;_;
>>15353184
From where to where?
>>15353213
>busted out every time you lose
Do you play with an all or nothing playstyle?
>>15353213
Good streaks will occur in higher lobbies as well. As long as one doesn't get complacent by winning too often, it's fully realistic to go 30 games with just a couple of fourths and 10+ wins in tokujou. Just keep being aware that the other three players aren't just spectating, no matter how good it gets.
>>15353280
It's Anon's only loss.
>>15353280
Well, on this account I have busted out a single time. 1/24 = 0.041
In that particular game, I played really poorly. Didn't start the game with the proper mindset to play and dealt into an obvious honitsu 6 dora hand in East 1 when I was only iishanten. After that, I couldn't complete a single hand and busted out in south 1 as everyone else kept getting tsumos. If that one game captured my style, I think you'd be right.
But no, this time around I'm trying to deal in as little as possible. It's like practice for the higher lobbies where other players know more about tile efficiency.
>>15353303
Alrighty, good to know. Just gotta keep being careful, then.
>mfw I got blinded by the huge gains of a baiman instead of going for the quick mangan, sure lead and likely win
![488cb9ad5e67b7b9e9ba5cca0007c398[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/FeqK39O.jpg "488cb9ad5e67b7b9e9ba5cca0007c398[1].png")
You know the drill.
>>15353545
9man
>>15353545
9 of cracks. If that doesn't kill me then 5 of cracks and hope I can make it into a ready hand with the 4-5-5-6 bams.
>>15353576
9 of what?
>>15353589
Come back once you learn the terminology.
>>15353576
>cracks
>bams
Jenn Barr, plz
>>15353467
At higher levels, even 2 han or 3 han hands are significant.
>>15353613
Thing is, I was near the lead/ leading by less than a thousand points but then got blinded by the baiman. I got my would-have-been winning tile just a few rounds later to rub salt in my wounds.
>>15353557
>>15353576
Let me change the question. Riichi or dama?
>>15353545
I don't have any safe tiles so I might as well finish the hand and solidify my lead. Call riichi and cut 5s. It's possible that no one is in tenpai yet and they might bail. I also don't see any dora or 7m so there's a decent chance I can tsumo it.
>>15353697
So it passed? What's the wait?
>>15353545
Is there setting to make tsumogiri tiles greyed out in game?
That looks like fail attempt of chinitsu.
>>15353719
Yeah, 5s passed. His hand hadn't changed since kamicha's 8s discard, and the 3s pon makes 25s one chance. The late honour tile discards suggest that it's more likely to be honitsu than chinitsu. The only remaining fanpai is xia, and since I have the souzu akadora, we're probably looking at 3900 at most. He hasn't discarded any souzu yet so he might still be iishanten.
I'll post the outcome in a bit, but first I'd like to hear whether people would rather riichi or dama.
>>15353737
It's only for replays and spectating. During a game, you have to watch out for it yourself. It's too valuable information to just give away.
>>15353024
so riichi, ippatsu, tsumo, shanshoku, pinfu, dora 2? sorry im new to mahjong and i want to learn as much yaku as i can
>>15353977
I ain't him, but that's pretty good. You're missing tanyao for this particular hand.
>>15353737
No. I don't know why since if you were playing in real life you could easily see if someone is discarding the tiles they drew.
>>15353750
Dama. It doesn't seem like the 4 or 7 will come out and the hand is worth enough as it is. I would riichi if it were earlier in the round.
What do?
>>15354708
Fold and hope for the best.
>>15354708
3m suji
>>15354708
5 pin in hopes of making shimocha push because he's unable to fold. If he deals in, you could take second.
>>15354708
6man
>>15354780
He's able to fold.
>>15354726
>>15354741
>>15354780
>>15354797
Never go full retard during the final round.
>>15354907
I hope you'll remember to fold and hope for the best next time.
>>15354907
Very unlikely wait but you need to consider all the possibilities
>tfw got rewarded because someone else played like a retard
>>15354708
6m, then 1m, 5p if no new safe tiles have come up.
>>15355363
Why do you put the 6m over 1m as a safe tile?
>>15355447
Because 6m is a safe tile against the riichi.
My brother, who keeps telling me to go for chiitoitsu every hand no matter what, was here while I was playing and consequently saw someone score big for the first time.
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016060704gm-0009-0000-bfd1242e&tw=3
Also my stats have suffered as I played through the night instead of sleeping in an attempt to fix my sleeping schedule.
>>15355461
So is 1m. But 1m is probably safe against kamicha and shimocha as well, while 6m isn't safe against them. Since all dragon and wind tiles are on the table, nobody can have fanpai. Shimocha doesn't have honitsu, so he can't win on an 1m, and kamicha could have a shanpon or tanki on 1m, but probably wouldn't have yaku so he wouldn't be able to ron either.
>>15355484
It's better if anyone but toimen wins, thus dealing the riskier tile is fine. East is probably bailing after the riichi, so the only concern is toimen and shimocha. Shimocha is only a concern if he has a 5 han hand, which is possible, but unlikely (tanyao dora 4, tanyao sanshoku dora 3). If you deal into his 7700 hand, you still get third because of seating order.
>>15355614
>If you deal into his 7700 hand, you still get third because of seating order.
Yeah, nice catch, I noticed that myself after I posted. Funny when the numbers work so well.
>>15355472
>My brother, who keeps telling me to go for chiitoitsu every hand no matter what
Tell him that he's a fucking idiot.
>>15355472
>who keeps telling me to go for chiitoitsu every hand no matter what
http://osamuko.com/tsuchida-koushou-homage/
Is your brother this guy?
looks like kobe bryant better sticks to basketball
>>15356284
>kobe can't deal his safe tile because it's shaped like a basketball
>>15356311
Well done.
>>15354741
I'm not sure but I think suji near riichi is as dangerous as non-suji
>>15357157
It is because of R, R+2, R+4 patterns which tend to be held onto until as late as possible.
Riichi 6 from a 246
Riichi 5 from a 135 or 579
Riichi 4 from a 468
Etc.
what did you guys do to get good at this game?
I know all the rules, I just don't understand how to predict what the other players' hands are
>>15357209
There's no substitute for experience. Looking at replays might also help if something happens in-game that doesn't match your expectations.
>>15357209
You never "know" what they have, it's about weighing likelihood and value.
Read blogs in the bottom of the OP pastebin. Most of them are broken down lesson by lesson.
Dynaman's book is actually really useful when you have a lot of spare time.
>>15357209
Don't even bother. Just focus on tile efficiency and defense.
>>15357209
Learn tile efficiency and basic defense first and basically just play a lot. Just like that other anon said nothing beats experience but as you play you should also learn about the important aspects of mahjong so you'll actually play better instead of repeating the same mistakes.
>>15357223
>>15357209
This
>no substitute for experience
Play play play. You will lose early and often. But don't be scared of that.
WWYD?
>>15357351
5s. 5m is appealing but a little sketchy.
>>15357351
Cut the 5m. What could possibly go wrong? Hell wait on both waits looks pretty bad but I have no idea how to fix that and steal a win before someone else does. There's also the chance that someone will bail and toss the 5s since it's safe against the riichi.
>>15357351
2m. I think the mangan is worth pursuing.
>>15357209
>predict what the other players' hands are
Become lesbian.
Jokes aside, you can somewhat "read" the opponent's discards. Open hands are easier to read of course.
>2+2+2+12
Well so much for 6 dan. Can't really say I'm surprised. As always, anytime I try to go dama it backfires into what should have been an ippatsumo.
>>15357366
>>15357370
>>15357378
pushed for that mangan like a moron and here's the result. not a big deal, but i could have been first if i avoided this.
>>15355980
He doesn't play mahjong; he's just being a meme.
The point of said post was to actually point out that shimocha got a dealer yakuman in E1.
>>15356023
What an article. I still laugh.
>mfw riichiing 3p on a 357 form only to get the 4p next turn
Sometimes there are just games when I get multiple 5-7 han hands and win absolutely none of them. Fucking kusoge.
Captcha: SATAN WAGRAM
>>15357777
If Satan were behind this he probably would've given you more sixes.
>>15357474
Dealing in doesn't mean you were wrong. If you push, that means you think the risk of dealing in is worth the chance to win the hand. If that's correct, it doesn't actually matter what happens next.
>>15357474
Doesn't sound moronic to me.
>>15357453
You got demoted?
>1:0
>>15359184
3.0
Started 5+4+1+0 and now my streak's going wayward.
3:0
>get into joukyu
>lose 50 R with one loss
>>15359864
what the fuck? what's your dan?
>>15359864
Rate shifts a lot before you have a decent number of games played. If your Rate was significantly higher than your opponents', then that seems reasonable.
just misclicked and entered an ippan game. fml.
>>15359885
1kyuu.
Which tile would you discard?
>>15359963
chun
>>15359963
5p. You are already leading.
>>15359963
9s, then 8s. Leaving possibility for shansoku.
It's e1 so why the heck not.
>>15359963
Tsumogiri. Since we can fit the double dora in our hand, we should not let it go. If we let anyone call it, we're setting ourselves up for losing 4000 points, all for the sake of pushing what would likely end up being a cheap hand.
>>15359963
>>15359981
>>15359991
>>15360021
I definitely chose the worst tile to discard but was awarded for it.
>That feel when the flow is with you and you can ignore defense and play like shit and still win
Once in a while, it's nice to be on the giving end of a fill-on kusoge
at which point would you say your account is fucked up beyond recognition and you should just start a new one?
>>15360524
If you can't get to 4 dan in the first place, it doesn't matter how fucked your R is. If you haven't done that, don't even bother with a new account.
>>15360551
but it is worth to keep trying to get there with an account that you don't know if it'll be able to recover the R?
Ch 18 is out. What a tragedy.
I love how TnK features all four players and their own struggles to win, as opposed to a 1v1 with two nameless suits on each side.
>>15361050
I suppose it's a nice change of pace, although it does add a lot of noise that distracts from the protagonist's struggle and can get a little cheesy.
tfw your hands touch
>>15360742
You will be able to recover the Rate if you're good enough. If you're not, your new account is unlikely to do much better in the end.
If it's really low and you somehow become a much better player since you last played ranked, then it might be quicker to make a new account if the old one has a lot of games played. I sincerely doubt that's worth trudging through ippan again, mind you.
>>15361485
which game is that?
>>15361791
https://sites.google.com/site/mjnetguide/home
This one.
>>15361811
>It won't replace Tenhou for you, most likely, but it's a solid and enjoyable client that reminds us all of a certain Mahjong client before it went down the dark path.
What is this client that went down a dark path?
>>15362099
Janriggedmon
