How to Tenhou:
http://arcturus.su/
Tenhou
http://tenhou.net/0/?L7447
Sega MJ instructions
https://sites.google.com/site/mjnetguide/home
Even third dan can't resist the free sex button.
>>15089858
isn't this tenhou?
>>15089909
it WAS tenhou, yes
Now it's a furiten double riichi.
2:0 waiting patiently for players
>>15089930
1:4
>NoName that doesn't know Yaku and calls for empty tenpai every round while dealing into huge hands
Only 7447 things.
>>15090149
No worry. He will learn.
>>15089930
when will you get a real account?
>>15089915
Of course, he tsumo'd anyways and won the game. But he did lose his Tenhou and a +110 game.
>>15090207
I play for fun, points and rankings mean nothing to me.
>>15090333
it's more a point of knowing against who you are playing than anything.
But i understand your point
Man Ten is a blast, I'm not far in but Eight Turn Game was great.
Post 'em.
This is some fucking Saki tier match. Absolutely insane, everyone's seizing the flow by the balls.
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016041807gm-0089-0000-96bfd49c&tw=2
>>15090720
I don't really see anything strange in that game other than the bullshit ura dora on the second hand by B. Sure that last hand turned a Jun Chan into a mangan, but that's not a big swing. The game was still a blowout.
Also you played like a retard on the first south 4. Don't open your hand to try and chase a sanshoku (especially one with a terminal) you likely won't hit.
Stop copying my discards, UNIVERSE.
>>15091367
Anyone else do things like this? If I have a trash hand or extra tiles I'll try to make patterns with my discards or copy someone else's discards.
>>15091421
No, because I'm not autistic.
>>15091421
It's basic defense when your hand is crap. It just means you aren't getting anything.
>>15091367
I had to at the 2 pin to keep my itsu, but I'm glad you actually noticed.
>>15091421
>I'll try to make patterns with my discards
What?
>>15091421
Of course. Riichi can make some good ones.
>too busy preventing daisangen
>forgot all about shousangen
Fuck this shit.
>>15092671
It literally would have been better for you if he tsumo'd dsg lel
2:0
>>15092671
>Why would you discard the 6m when the 4p and 4s are 100% safe?
>>15093358
And who am I quoting?
>>15093223
>lel
Don't do that.
>>15090656
If I was a bit faster I could have made 5dan under 3 months.
>>15093488
what're you gonna do about it fgt
C'mon lads.
2:0
>>15090656
Can't find better pic to illustrate that last game.
Maybe we should play nother game.
>>15093599
Jesus.
>3:0
>maybe I can finish in 2nd place!
>this
Aight you lot, let's get set to get DECKED!
Come on and GET YOUR GAME ON
Rockin' this 1:4 like nobodies business, get the fuck in here
3:0
>20minutes waiting on a 3:0 queue
Holy shit, and people said 3:0 was fast track to a game
>>15094479
So how'd it go, hotshot?
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016041905gm-0089-0000-4729a2b0&tw=1
Oya mangan too stronk.
>>15094789
>all ron
someone should at least try to defend
>>15094799
Must be an ippan game.
>>15094847
Joukyuu.
>>15094789
>>15094886
What the fuck? Where are these people when I'm playing?
>>15094895
Well, it's the middle of the night over there, isn't it? Maybe playing against tired people is actually beneficial to you.
>2 games in a row the game ends with me being 3rd despite having over 30000
>>15094789
>shimocha almost survives with 1000 points after ragequitting
Toimen shoulda been the one killed.
>>15090656
14+8+17+12 = 51戦
I started hot earlier in the month. But I guess the law of averages is kicking in, as I am now tilting.
>>15090656
Spent most of my time in 7447 this month.
3+1+1+1 in Tokujou though.
>>15090768
>(especially one with a terminal)
Dude, terminals are more likely to come out than middle tiles. When he opened the hand one 9p was discarded. Seems like a viable option to go for sanshoku there, especially since he just needed any cheap hand to get in 3rd place. I'm not saying that it's definitely better to keep the hand closed, but it's certainly not as obviously false as you make it seem.
>>15090656
Can't post, 7447 onlyfag here.
I hate this game. Noname is horrible to watch.
>3:0
Which 3 Touhous would you play mahjong with?
>>15096650
Cirno, Okuu, and Youmu.
>>15096650
Suika, Yuugi, and Yuyuko.
>>15096650
rinnosuke,youki,unzan
not gonna play with lesbos.
>>15096650
Doc, Yukari, and what's her name again, Marisa's teacher.
>>15096650
Marisa got into tenpai before the 4p was discarded, why didn't she ron?
>>15097032
Check again. 4p was never discarded.
>>15097090
You check again.
>>15097090
Look at Remilia's discards
Quick query
What does clicking the kana at the bottom of tenhou do during a match?
>>15097223
Auto win
Auto discard
No tile calls
Not sure in which order though.
>>15097223
If you're in client, left to right:
Auto claim win, auto discard, auto pass, auto arrange.
If you're using Flash version, omit the last one.
>>15097236
First one is auto win. Click it after calling riichi, sit back and fold your arms like a smug bitch.
>>15096650
who 2hu unreal mahjong 4 here
>>15096650
All of them
I wish, that I get this kind of shit more often.
>>15097608
>drawing 2pin
Bad flow right there
The fuck with my stat
hanchan
13+17+13+13
tonpu
4+5+4+3
even 7447 is quite similar
5+7+4+4
Hopefully jong isn't turning me into a goddamn queer.
Oh whoops, I just pressed the "my hand is so shit can we restart" button, not realising what it was. What are the odds for completing kokushi musou when you start in nishanten?
>>15097730
http://osamuko.com/i-told-you-not-to-go-for-kokushi/
Less 15% if you have 10 different tiles, about 35% if you have 11.
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016041920gm-0041-0000-fa67b8c7&tw=0&ts=0
>this guy
What an asshole
>>15097767
what is that パオ and why did he lose his point too?
>>15097826
>why did he lose his point too?
Because he's dumb asshole.
>>15097826
Pao Rule.
SoCal Riichi Mahjong Mini Tournament is scheduled for Sunday, May 15th at 1pm. Hope you can make it! http://www.meetup.com/Pacific-Mahjong-League-SoCal/events/230495189/
>>15099041
>Sunday
Finally.
2:0.
Please register soon. We're down to 4 spots. :D
>>15097767
In fairness it didn't matter because North would have ended up 3rd anyway due to tiebreakers.
>>15099830
>:D
Fuck off.
3:4
>>15099970:D
>2:0
>mfw, needing to pee during mahjong
>>15100878
>not having a pissbottle ready
Cmon where do you think you are?
>>15100878
I had to take an urgent shit in the middle of a game once and still won in the end
Boy was that intense
3:0
Every time I check 7447 there's a 0:4 going. Even online, I'm a loser playing alone.
>>15100981
Just like for getting laid, you just need good timing.
>>15100989
But that doesn't happen either.
>have 50,000+ points early in the game
>still get rekt
My flow was shit towards the middle and the end, but I still grabbed the lead. Phew.
>>15101256
>Open kanning in west round.
It's like you want to lose or something.
>>15101272
He had the flow of the game and was in tenpai, actually. It's just he made a 50/50 choice of discarding a bad tile.
>>15101272
Kan is fun.
>>15100944
The shit or the game?
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016042020gm-0029-0000-e8094a83&tw=0
AU Gogo still a buster.
>get roned on the discard that brings me into tenpai 4 times in a row
sometimes I hate this game
>dealer tsumos for mangan
Sucks for kamicha
Why should i play this game over chess or go?
Where can i learn about it's strategy?
Can the comp beat humans in it yet?
>>15104726
no randomness in chess or go
tile order in mahjong is random
by counting tiles, however, you can work out how likely you are to draw each tile, and thus work out the efficiency/difficulty of each yaku from your current hand, as well as when to go on the defensive, and what tiles are the safest; the learning aspect would mostly be in reacting to and predicting human behavior and exploiting it
the AI would probably be a lot different to how alpha go is done, as it would have difficulty planning more than a turn or two ahead due to the monstrous number of possibilities
>>15104726
You won't get beaten by people with a program on their phone
Internet is a good place
Yes but not reliably
>>15104726
Chess is for plebs.
You'll have to dedicate your entire life to Go to get good at it.
>>15104892
That doesn't say anything about what's interesting about mahjong.
>>15104726
Can I learn this game exclusively through watching Akagi?
>>15104864
Is the game complex? Or is it just random?
The idea of being completely random seems to eliminate the idea of strategy to me.
>>15104765
Why not just play poker? How is this better than that?
More people play it, there's more resources online, and it's even more portable than these tiles.
Mahjong is at the perfect intersection of luck and skill. The basic rules of play are simple, but get progressively more complex as you learn more about strategy.
The flexibility and drama involved is incredible
>>15105017
There's a lower emphasis on pure chance in mahjong than poker. Of course it's still a big factor though. Most things have an aspect of chance to them, doesn't mean they aren't considered competitive.
>>15105017
Why not just play with your dick? I'd say it's objectively the best game out there
>>15105017
Poker is too luck-based. People like to shit on mahjong but poker is like 95% luck-based.
>>15105017
Aside of amount of cards (52 v 136), mahjong works a lot different than poker.
In mahjong, you actively make your hand by draw-and-discard process. That also includes using other players' discards. While in poker, you only rely on your and the dealer's hand.
In mahjong, your outcome result and amount comes entirely from the hand you make, while in poker, your hand only decides whether you win or lose. No difference between high card or RSF.
In mahjong, there are lots of information you can get using tile discards etc, while still retaining some degree of randomness from the tile wall. While in poker, at most, your decision comes from 7 cards.
The closest card game to mahjong is gin rummy, and even then, the pattern combination, and thus the outcome, you can make is much wider in mahjong.
>>15105225
Thank you for answering my questions.
I guess I'll play you all sometime soon.
>>15104986
It's both complex and random like>>15104765 said there is a lot of strategy to be made. Still it's pretty much one of the few comepetive game where a total noob can beat an expert if he is lucky enough.
>>15105294
>that hideous quality
Skill in mahjong just allows for a bit more consistency. You'll probably end up losing less if you're good at defending than if you aren't. Because at the end of the day, it's about losing less not winning more.
>>15105300
>a total noob can beat an expert if he is lucky enough
Yet, Beginner's Luck can only last so long.
>>15104948
I know, I was just saying that if you want to get into a board game other than mahjong, you could do a lot better than chess or go.
>>15104955
Of course not. But it shouldn't take you more than 15 minutes to learn the basics of the game.
>>15104726
at the very least, crop your screencaps
Odd thing is, mahjong really looks heavily dependent on your draws and your starting hand, but as you watch the excellent players play, you can see that somehow they get into tenpai almost every time without fault, and they only edge each other by being there first. It's a balance of luck and skill to make up for the lack thereof.
>>15105960
Yet it takes no time for them to break up their good hands, even without riichi warning.
>>15105960
>excellent players
I think most average players could probably get every hand to tenpai if they didn't have to betaori
>>15105970
Just yesterday I saw a guy with a 10k lead and a 7han tenpai fold on the 2nd to the last discard with a fairly safe tile. He ended up losing that game by a slight margin.
>>15105989
>if they didn't have to betaori
The key difference is they know when to continue and push and when not to most of the time.
2:0
>http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016042122gm-0089-0000-1df8c3ed&tw=0
>I'll play one more then go to bed
Why are Kyuu players allowed in Jou?
>>15105960
>as you watch the excellent players play, you can see that somehow they get into tenpai almost every time without fault
But more importantly, you don't see them get ron'd very often.
>>15106715
1-kyuu qualifies into joukyuu.
>>15106762
Nobody told me that at 1kyuu
>>15106767
Is it really worth the switch? I'm having a considerably harder time in joukyuu than ippan where it was mostly fun and games. My current stats are 1-2-1-3 with two of the fourths being the first games I played.
>>15106795
I'm almost to 4dan and I'd say yeah. While Ippan games are highly unpredictable and can be fun like 7447, the quality of play is much better. You're also much less likely to encounter things like disconnecters. Plus you don't have to deal with nonames who may as well be dropbots.
If it's much harder it's probably because you need to learn a little defence to round out what you know. Basic betaori along with suji and kabe is all I use and I don't often deal in anymore. But I'm not as good as many other people who play here.
>>15106822
I've been aiming for first and settling for second so I'll get into the swing of things sooner or later. Do I lose points for ranking fourth? I know I read how it all works somewhere but I don't remember where.
>>15106836
>Do I lose points for ranking fourth?
Yes, you do. That'll be the case from here on out.
>>15106836
Yeah, I don't know if you lose points for last in 1kyuu but you definitely do at 1dan. Avoiding last is the most important think as the penalty increases, which is why defence becomes so important.
>>15106846
http://tenhou.net/man/index.html#DAN
Here's the whole table.
>>15106836
Until you get to Tokujou, 2nd is almost the same as 3rd. Avoiding 4th or pushing for first is almost always worth it. The only real difference is in R which is irrelevant until 4 dan.
>>15108298
I don't think it's irrelevant, since the more games you play the harder it is the gain R.
What godly ranks are these people?
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2015090911gm-0029-0000-f2b24272&tw=2&ts=11
Look at this and answer this question:
What was this dumbass thinking?
Finally it's happening, Tenhou vs Renmei
http://tenhou.net/cs/2016/05tr/
No big names like Kojima, Moriyama, or Nikaido sisters, but hey, it's fucking Renmei. Also, they're using Tenhou Meijinsen rule, not JPML ones.
>>15109505
>No big names like Kojima, Moriyama, or Nikaido sisters
If they lose to the Tenhoui, they ruin their reputation.
>>15109513
Looking at names in the event and ron2 site, there's a guy in 9dan, so comparable to Kojima etc. But yeah, I really want to see ASAPIN vs Kojima. Too bad.
>>15109505
Can white piggu watch it live?
>>15109578
There's nico link in the event link.
>>15109597
I know, but knowing nips it may be Japan-only or premium
>>15109611
>premium
Yea, what cheap Jew runs NicoNico? And when will these Nips discover Twitch?
>>15109611
Is there country block in niconico? I only know one in jewtube.
Worst night in a long time. Just flushed close to 100r right down the shitter...
>>15110284
>perfectly straight tile wall
The game must be full of cheater.
>>15110284
did he just discard into double ron
>>15110609
The guy in the back declared tsumo judging by his last tile
Not sure why he's taking a point stick, maybe it's honba or his riichi stick
The guy on the left shouldn't feel so down, because the winner's hand is not legit since he only has one chun and another in his pond
The guy on the bottom is probably raging or something
The guy on the right doesn't give a fuck
Also playing with both hands is shitty manners
>>15110284
>100r right down the shitter
And I thought, that I'm having a shitty time right now.
Some big waves this guy's riding. All I could do was watch.
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016042217gm-0089-0000-86510c6f&tw=3.
>One retard dealing into one of your other opponents hands every single round, discarding dangerous tiles even against riichi when his hand is utter shit
>You end up in 3rd place without losing or winning any points when he gets below 0.
This is truly the worst kind of game. Always makes me paranoid about cheating.
>>15110284
>>15110745
I dropped from 1830 to 1679 R over the last 3 days if it's any consolation for you.
Anyone up for a game?
>>15111425
>without losing or winning any points
plus minus zero?
>>15111425
>dropped from 1830 to 1679 R over the last 3 days
No tokujou player would allow that to happen.
>>15113273
Well no because you wouldn't be a Tokujou player for very long.
>>15113273
No Tokujou player would be a Tokujou player after he drops below 1800R
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5TDHWMn76I
>the bald old guy is dead
>mfw I busted a player with a baiman and mangan in E3
.
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016042308gm-0009-0000-64359808&tw=2
I know a played bad but fuck I'm so mad right now.
>>15113302
Why does he keep breaking up his hands and dealing in? Is he hustling with the other guy? I don't nippon
>>15115500
In Janki series, mahjong isn't just about winning hand.
>S3
>Player in 4th wins with a Riichi only hand
Every time
Sometimes I just wonder why do I hate myself so much that I indulge in something so sadistic and hateful.
>>15117095
You mean your life?
>>15117159
>indulge
I don't think so.
>>15117095
Who hurt you? Do you want to talk about it?
>3:0
>>15117261
>0:4
thread auto-update a shit
>>15117197
The NoNames are always out there to make my life miserable.
2:0.
i will not press the free sex button
i will not press the free sex button
i will not press the free sex button
i will not press the free sex button
>>15117398
It doesn't happen often but when I do press it out of habit or mistake, it ends up absolutely horrible for me.
>>15117398
>>15117404
>>15117398
I pressed it again for no good reason other than "I'm in last place in south 3 so I may as well double down on stupid"
2:4 faggots, get your daily dose of kusoge right now.
>>15110717
Using both hands like that is totally fine if it's not during a hand being played
Friendly reminder that menzen tsumo is actually a yaku.
No place is safe against the wrath of the NoNames.
>>15117539
>my games as NoName have better placement than when I'm using my ID
Thanks for making a very lopsided game interesting UNIVERSE, also nice gyakuten.
>>15117539
Or would be if Nonames still didn't deal into hanemans with a 25k lead in south 4.
>ragequitting
>in 7447
>>15117671
Almost had my gyakuten but UNIVERSE pulled a Corak on everyone.
I'm high and drunk as hell, but I'm going to wreck your asses on 7447 anyway.
1:4
>>15117687
Now that ya mention it, Corak hasn't pulled any godly わざ as of late.
Rankin up change people huh.
>>15117797
I'm pretty sure my powers only activate in tournaments. I've never been all that consistent in L7447 and only occasionally in L0.
>>15117919
Kokushi via chankan? Replay link plz
>>15117994
That screenshot is months old, and I never saved the replay.
>>15117687
>>15117797
>pulled a Corak
>pulled any godly わざ
What are their signature moves?
>>15118086
It's just /jp/ meme, like Anony/a/ pulling yakuman.
>>15118049
>not saving amazing replays
Why?
3:0 lads
>>15118204
Not anymore!
>>15118111
Oh, I see. This is kind of disappointing though. I thought they had lesbian superpowers.
>>15118224
Never forget
>>15118242
MrZen was my rival back in 2009(?). Good times.
3:0
>6 dan 2069
>6 dan 2033
Now I remember why I don't like Tokujou.
>>15118999
>not wanting those sweet R points from winning
>not wanting to see despair of those folks falling into the gutter hell again
>>15119029
Well I got behind early, but I'm holding 3rd bullying the table with the free sex button and picking up 3k a round.
>4 draws in 5 hands
>>15119042
>Started up 15k over 4th in South 4
>Eternal South 4
Got a nice wait on the last hand and ended up 2nd.
6 dan #1 3rd
6 dan #2 4th
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016042411gm-0029-0000-3b8a3923&tw=1
Houou pls go
3:0
tfw the best time to play in 7447 for me is always dead
good bye my virginity.
>>15121251
>Suuankou tanki
>on a NoName
What a waste.
>>15121251
>NoName
That doesn't count for shit
>>15121275
NoName is a yakuman pro
What?
>>15124045
What do you mean what? The furiten riichi or the toimen holding onto 6p?
>>15124045
He progressed from a 3/5/7 shape to a 5/7 tenpai, then decided to riichi a 3/6 furiten a turn later. Didn't make much sense to me. He dealt into a mangan for that.
He then made it up with this, so I'm rooting for him.
>>15110284
Me right now. Before I started my current losing streak I was at 1888R. Now I'm at 1796. It wasn't all loses, but all my chances at winning were swept away from me so I ended up second a couple of times I had a good chance at first place.
It's frustrating.
>>15124045
MIND GAMES
Fuck, I didn't know Houou games were so fun.
>>15124127
>It wasn't all loses, but all my chances at winning were swept away from me
THIS. FUCK MEEEEEEEEE
>I'm fourth but this hand is so strong and only two away that my gyakuten has finally c-
>toimen open tsumo. Yakuhai only
I void my bowels everytime
>>15124524
The beautiful "4th is hell" system that Tenhou loves so much.
>>15124070
Dealer riichi. He was expecting everyone else to bail and well as tsumo.
>>15110284
Recently I feel like I've been playing utter crap and I find myself winning less and less even with good waits. I don't know if it's the players getting better or just me playing like a fucking noob the whole time.
>>15125273
Tenhou replay bug.
Not a bad hand to break 4th streak with
>>15125686
desu senpai good shit on that hand rape him with your doras
toi toi
dora 3
east
hatsu
hon ro
whats that a san bai man?
>>15125719
Baiman nomi, I'm afraid. Toitoit, Hon, Ton, Hatsu, Dora 3, 9han
>>15125719
>hon ro
You mean chanta?
>>15125763
si my mistake
>>15125763
No, Hon Routo
https://twitter.com/ai_mahjong/status/724488349017219072
>962 matches just to get to 7dan
>and still not qualified for houou because it has less than R2100
>>15125686
Too bad kamicha didn't drop that. But oh well, you fucked that victim good.
>playing a rigged mongolian tile matching game
>>15125830
houou is r2000, it has more than 962 games (about 14.6k)
>There are people not reading the best mahjong manga
>>15126196
Yeah, my bad.
IIRC those 962 matches are the match needed just to get one rank up, and I think it fell back to 5dan once.
>>15126223
Wait, that's just its match count this month
>almost 40 matches per day
Why are you leaving so fast, after only one game? I want to play more ;_;
Every once in a while, someone will come in 7447, look at the eternal 3:0, and leave.
What does it mean?
2:0
3:0
Come on, let's play.
my start with joukyu.
i suck hard and might as well call quits.
>>15127651
Better than my 1-3-1-6. I can only blame bad luck for so long before I have to admit I just suck.
>http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016042607gm-0089-0000-bfe23b99&tw=0
>Having to press the free sex button because I'm not brave enough to push it dama
Man fuck playing with Universe.
Guys a bully
>>15128235
>>15128235
Just bully back.
>>15128235
Don't take his shit. He's all bark and no bite.
>>15128235
Hit him with a Daisangen.
>>15128235
You need to step up your game, nigga.
>>15128335
I think he misunderstood.
>>15128715
>Discarding that chun
Had it coming.
>>15128715
>feeding an open daisangen
>playing right into open daisangen
>ever going full retard