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Elona+ Custom 1.55 General Information (for newer players): http://pastebin.com/Zcavai8x
Elona+ Custom 1.55 Mods: http://pastebin.com/vZ8Hfw6C
In Nefia if you try to make sourdough, the bread will become sweeter the more you feed the starter. Sugar exists in Nefia but isn't widely used.
So, er, to kick off the thread:
I originally wanted to make the prompt: 'Post Character/pet ideas!', however when I got to writing mine it sort of got out of hand. At this point it's a short fanfic, it's not done yet but would any lurkers mind if I posted it for feedback/help summarizing it?
Martial artist fairy.
Gunner golem.
Wizard giant.
Productive member of society elea.
I love contradictory/impossible template.
Its 1.56 already, trash thread
>>15084685
Not even linking to the previous thread at that.
What's the best place to put up a house?
>>15084978
I like to pick near the center of the continent, but that's just me.
>>15084680
I've done martial artist fairy and beat zeome with it, it worked out better than I thought it would honestly.
You just gotta dump a lot of early level skill points and plat into martial arts to get the base dice up.
Is it me or magic seeds only grow rods now ?
>>15085721
If that's the case that's not necessarily a bad thing. The only other thing they used to grow into is spell books? Probably could go elsewhere for spell books.
Previous thread: >>15024773
>>15084725
Be the change you want to see etc etc
>>15084680
>Productive member of society elea.
I'm intrigued by this. It's true you don't see many Elea in towns. You mainly see them in dungeons or in the slave auctions in Derphy. I imagine it would be hard for an Elea to assimilate into the cities of North Tyris for example after well, living like an animal. Makes me wonder what a typical day of life is for an Elea.
>>15085795
If Derphy is any indication, it includes running from or regularly killing slavers.
>>15085721
>>15085744
Farmed a full magic farm on a lucky day, zero spellbooks
1.56 seems to be pretty unstable, so be extra careful with it. There's a gauge attack crash and a couple of other issues.
>>15085958
Is this exclusive to custom or does it happen in vanilla 1.56?
>>15086586
Vanilla. There are also reports of Manytia ignoring the player.
Second piece of artwork I've seen that depicted Itzpalt as Kiwi. Was wondering why that was the case so I did a bit of research. Found that the reason why he's depicted that way is because in the Japanese version if you put in Itzpalt as your wish it would summon a kiwi. So not only does Itzpalt grant some neat stuff but he's tasty fruit with lots of health benefits too. Ano that's a bit too much. Please nerf. I can't handle the glory of kiwi.
>>15086715
>No yacatect
>>15087248
She was but a line in game files during the days of original Elona.
>>15087307
>line in game files
Holy shit, I never knew that she was in vanilla Elona. I also learned very recently that south tyris was also in there, along with... uh... the slut and the leopard.
>>15087352
Oh come on now, you sleep with the entirety of the planet and you're branded a "slut".
Ludicrous.
>>15087307
ah, that makes sense.
>>15087381
The nerve of some people is just astounding, isn't it?
>>15087381
My feelings are a bit hurt anon. I haven't been approached by this lady yet. I'd never sleep with her because of lewds but I'd feel a lot better if she approached me and I had the satisfaction of telling her no.
The thumbnail for lost irva looks like a mallard duck's head with soap suds on it.
>because of lewds
Explain further.
>>15087477
You know, it's t-that thing you do with t-that and then t-hat thing happens. Too lewd! Moving on, is the black angel pet any good? Anyone have one that they're using?
![1356603436481[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/9Goygdf.jpg "1356603436481[1].jpg")
>>15087606
>>15087606
>is the black angel pet any good? Anyone have one that they're using?
I'm using her every night
A cup of coffee is now a cupcup of coffee ?
>>15088182
double the cup, double the caffeine
I didn't like how the girl was covered by the menu so I moved her to the right.
nue spritshits for 1.56, if y'all interested.
monster girl
https://jii.moe/VyTMic3yZ.bmp
>>15088932
non-monster girl
https://jii.moe/Ek7ji93kZ.bmp
Already checked the export settings in gimp, so hopefully there shouldn't be any compatibility issues.
![ZjQExyDfGE[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/XCakiG9.png "ZjQExyDfGE[1].png")
>>15088932
>>15088951
>.png
>1.5 mb
>>15089294
Nm, it's fine.
Btw 1.57 seems to be up. Another week until custom update orz.
>>15089465
Yeah.
http://www1.axfc.net/u/3653070.zip
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:21906
>>15088932
>>15088951
Thanks, updated the pastebin.
>>>15089482
>The type of shop that you own can be changed. It's similar to expanding the shop in that it will cost money. Items that are not compatible with the shop type will not sell at all, but compatible items will sell for more, and sell more quickly. For example, food shops will sell food items very easily. This and the above change make roleplaying a shopkeeper much easier - not that this was the reason for the change.
>the food shop. Will sell only food items. Final selling price has x 2 modifier.
Hello.
>Cold damage deals more damage on wet targets. The multiplier is higher than the one for lightning damage.
For anyone at the high-levels, how will this change affect your skill rotations/strategies?
>Precious equipment will no longer come with random equipment attributes.
Noooo. No longer rerolling to get OP effects.
Think someone requested the black valkyrie in the past? Found it buried in pixiv while searching for something for my shoggoth.
>>15089767
Won't change much since I've been leveling my fireball, iceball, and thunder vortex spells. Fireball and iceball do more damage than thunder vortex but the wet status added a multiplier which made up for it. Now fireball has its own multiplier through oil and from what you're saying iceball is getting one too. Kinda puts fireball and iceball over thunder vortex in potential damage but the spells I use to damage enemies has always revolved around enemy resists.
For instance, undead creatures when I see them triggers a sense of glee because they burn so easily without adding multipliers or applying elemental scar. I love running into the zombie queen because I can expect to see a log full of six digit damage figures to her and all the zombies she spawns. Adding multipliers or stripping away resists through elemental scar would just be overkill.
If something were to be weak to thunder I'd use thunder vortex or if something was weak to ice I'd use iceball. Everything else I use magic storm.
There is one special case that comes to mind and that's the possible enemy that has superb resists in everything including magic. In that special case, I'd probably use iceball. I'd use elemental scar to rip out the enemies resist making my elemental spells actually do more damage than pure magic and then I'd apply the wet damage multiplier as that's really easy to apply over oil. It takes a bit more work to make oil and it's easy to apply wet through chucking a random potion at an enemy or to just use bubble storm to make a bunch of enemies wet.
>don't want to update to 1.56 because you're a shameless Kumiromi stamina slut who holds a key to shadowstep everything in sight
>don't want to stay with 1.55 because Sophia's quest is broken after a new year passes
Decisions, decisions.
>>15090496
How about1.57?
>>15090555
Unfortunately, I've become the lategame faggot who complains about not enough content for lategame players like myself. Specialized shops and the other tweaks aren't hideously exploitable gamebreakers like herb farming and artifact fusion, so there's no compelling reason to hit 1.57 so soon.
>>15090496
It is almost the same for Kumi, you recover 1 less stamina per 5 turns compared to pre-1.56
Here's a face1.bmp I made using portraits from other elona faces and rueken's art.
https://jii.moe/NJl6V76J-.bmpPlease forget about my failed post earlier.
>>15091343
Cute! Added to the pastebin.
>>15089767
Mmmh, assuming cap negociation, this makes it desirable to empty shops inventories and dump into your own shops.
Especially attractive with the spellwriter, something like reserving only jua cure ( or is oracle more expensive ? domination ? ).
You can finally roleplay as a jew, buying low, selling high !
Yacatect and her saint Recette will be proud of me.
does 1.6 include the 1.55 custom bonus scenes? Or will I need to wait for 1.56 custom to include those?
>>15089482
>the inn shop. Will sell only containers and potions
>containers
I'm confused. "container" as in container items like chests/safes/mat boxes? And can empty ones be even sold?
>>15092039
Wait for custom.
>>15092041
Yes, I would assume so.
>箱、ポーション
It's like how the real innkeepers sell gamble chests and crim ales.
>>15095213
I wanted make a remark about how slow the thread was and how we'd fall off the catalog but I didn't want to bump it.
So aside from
>precious items, kitty banks, Figurines, cards, deeds, and Small Medals
Are there any items I can't inherit? Are evolution hearts fair game?
>>15096362
Yes
Yacatect's glasses sure help my autism. Now I realize how many herb stats I was wasting by not quaffing potential potions at the correct time.
>>15090245
I am that anon, that you anon
>>15097619
Thank you, sorry anon for the typo
Do I need to wait for any custom mods to update for 1.56 or 1.57?
>>15097629
There are apparently some bugs in vanilla 1.56 that Custom has not fixed so if you'd rather not deal with them you could wait until Anna has something up for 1.57.
How big is the Elona fanbase?
>>15097694
Counting in the Japanese? Small-ish. It's an indie sand-box roguelike that was never marketed particularly heavily, to my knowledge. I'd be surprised if the number of regular players was equal to 1000 in NA alone.
>>15097723
>>15097694
I googled
>indie sand-box roguelike
thinking it sounded like the majority of indie games being developed but instead of getting lots of hits, I only landed on one game. Is there anything more frustrating than cropping pictures in paint? It's like trying to glue a mint-leaf to a coked-out moneky's anus using only your tongue.
>>15097737
>It's like trying to glue a mint-leaf to a coked-out moneky's anus using only your tongue.
You seem to speak from experience.
>>15097770
Tastes like chicken.\__( ``/)__/
Why is my Strength stat red? I removed every equipment and item in the inventory, checked for mutations and diseases, checked for debuffs, and nothing there causes my strength to go red.
>>15097814
You're cursed, talk to a priestess or drink a (blessed) bottle of restore body.
>>15097821
Oh, thanks.
>>15097837
No worries, on my first character I didn't realize that either. I had all of my status dropped down to ridiculous levels and I was wondering why my leveling wasn't increasing my damage at all. Also, quaffing the blessed restore body potions, or blessed restore spirit potions, boost those stats by xx amount for, I think, 1 ingame year, or until you die. I highly recommend it.
I must have prostituted myself at least a thousand times, but my charisma won't go up - instead my learning just keeps growing way better than my charisma even though I'm a Juere Gunner and I never actually tried to train learning.
>>15098589
Your potential f or charisma, which is the rate at which you earn experience for it is too low, gotta increase it.
What are the known bugs in 1.56? Or at least where can I go read about them?
>>15098589
Also you don't get any exp while at NEED Sleep status.
>>15098907
There was a crash with enemies' gauge attack and bugs with new NPC in Lost Irva.
>>15098975
That's only the red "Need Sleep!" one right?
since when don't material gathering spots spawn in puppy cave?
>>15099924
I think that was a recent change actually. Probably can track it down in one of the change logs. Guess Ano didn't want people to have it easy farming materials.
>>15099991
That's fair, sadly tend to ignore the other dungeons for a while cause of level scaling.
Thanks anon.
Are there any Return points in Lost Irva aside from Ulm-Leson?
Holy shit Gene Engineering is broken as fuck, I can't believe I never used it before.
>>15084114
Downloading Elona custom and placing it on elona plus just gives me an "invalid version" error. Is there a way to fix this?
>>15100924
The deepest level of the Cradle of Chaos you've reached. Not very useful, obviously.
But you can also talk to Norne the fairy in Larna to have him warp you to the Shrine of Guardian in Lost Irva and back. That makes the shrine/Larna a defacto return point.
>>15101031
Wait until valid version comes out? This friday probably.
>>15101073
Yes, I'll update Custom to 1.57 on Friday.
>>15101721
You're the best
Is http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Translation_and_spelling_errors up-to-date or did Custom already fix all of that?
>>15102666
>>15102666
Short answer is no. The slightly longer answer is should it? Longest answer is currently here: http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:21644
While I personally don't mind either way if it does change I'll miss some of weird English.
>>15097814
>>15097847
Something like +5 or +20%, whichever is higher, and that includes speed. Blessed restores are pretty much the first things I try to get.
I took some god gemstones and a statue into the Abyss to waste a month (shop needed to unload some Lucky Day loot) and now their cooldowns are stuck.
What the hell do I do
>>15103526
What do you mean?
>>15103526
I've had this before but it was quite a while ago. I don't remember specifically having to do something to unstick them. I think they just unstuck them selves after a while.
Just got banned from /tg/, what did you do today fellow Nefians?
>>15104207
Today I opened a shop. My pets aren't very good so business is bad.
>>15101721
Oh shit its AnnaBanana!
>>15104237
Zombie dancers, despite being dead, are creatures of Yacatect. Look into recruiting one.
>>15103593
They've been on (72hr.) and haven't changed.
>>15104599
If I remember correctly there's a mechanism in place to prevent people from spamming statues - what you were trying to do. If the cooldowns are getting stuck when you leave the abyss, though, then that may be a bug.
Are you outside the Abyss now? Are the statues still stuck? Have you entered any towns/traveled on the world map since? Have you dropped them and picked them up again? Which statues/gemstones are they? Are you playing on custom? If yes, have you tried on regular E+?
>>15104678
Great questions. However, they started working.
I noticed after I slept that they started working but they might have worked earlier than that. Dropping and picking up, dropping and leaving + re-entering area did not work.
I went straight from the Abyss to the town to the Border back to my North Tyris home and they remained stuck.
It was two gemstones of Kiwi, a gemstone of Yacatect, and a statue of Kiwi.
On E+Custom 1.55.3.
So, my guess here is just "sleep and you'll be good."
>>15105449
Wait not Kiwi, whatever the baller stamina one was.
>>15104370
is it possible to grab a zombie queen? I realize they're about level 130 or whatever, but looking them up on the wiki with their 306 CHA means they're probably worth it, no?
>>15104207
Jut got off of work, time to level my juere monk
>>15105791
Should be possible with good enough dominate spell lv or through a rod of domination.The wiki recommends an MRA as a shopkeeper. It has a charisma of 250 and negotiation of 117. Zombie Queen has more charisma, 306, but just slightly less negotiation at 103. Still, zombie queen should be good as a shop keeper since it's similar to the MRA.
>100 consecutive arena wins you will receive 20000 fame, a potion of evolution, a random material kit and a treasure map. This bonus reward seems to scale based on the number of wins. 200 wins gave the same amount of fame but dropped two material kits, two potions of evolution and two treasure maps
does 1000 consecutive wins give 10 treasure maps?
Is it possible to change a race after making a character? Either through elosnack or file editting.
Would I get the racial feat?
>>15107375
You can change the text that appears after 'race' in the character viewer. You can do that with the Philosopher's Stone Mask. To get one you must either wish or find a recipe for it then use a pot for fusion. I have no idea where to find the recipe.
No racial feats are gained or lost.
>>15107443
yeah I decided I want different feats in the end, I'll fiddle around with elosnack, thanks anon.
>>15107477...another (You)....
>>15107506
u wot aniki
Is it possible to use a sprite from the character.bmp as the player's appearance? If so, how do I do it?
>>15089785
>Precious equipment will no longer come with random equipment attributes.
This is complete bullshit
All my precious items were rerolled with superior scrolls for amazing attributes
Sound, Magic resistance
I even have some spell multipliers on weapons
Fuck this update
Golden Knight>Exile>Black Cat>Black Angel>Defender>Cute Fairy>Android
>>15108331
They won't change if you don't reroll them again. Treasure them forever.
>>15108331
I thought it said somewhere that it was also buffing the enchantments to make up for it? Either way I'm going to wait till the wiki's been fully updated with all the changes before switching.
On the upside I doubt equipment you already have will change unless you do something to reroll it.
>>15108313
If you overwrite your pcc_body_x.bmp files with the sprite (16 times, that is), you can take the form of anything. Disable smooth scrolling for the full NPC experience.
https://jii.moe/Ek9qSrGe-.bmp
>>15108313
Put it in /user/graphic and then iirc you can shape change yourself into that form. It needs to be named pic_1 or something like that.
>>15108425
I see, Thanks
>>15108407
More like
Defender>cute fairy>android>goose>exile>mediocre
>>15108407
Little Girl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Android >>> Exile >*
>>15108424
>I thought it said somewhere that it was also buffing the enchantments to make up for it
The update gives godly artifacts more attributes
>>15108458
>>15108472
Android is decent now?
>>15108407
Cute Fairy > Android > Exile > Black Angel > Golden Knight > Defender > Black Cat
>>15108494
You can teach any pet most skills and customize AI. So really the only difference between pets is INI (if you don't do degrade their stats) or cBitFlags.
Android has the cArmour flag + low ini, which makes her good for anything desu. Sleeping Giant is another creature you should have your eyes on as well, baka kouhai.
>>15108494
Poor man's pro-jet. Less damage reduction, but easier to farm ap and no need to raise life.
>>15108331
Guess this is a bigger push to get in on that artifact fusion instead.
>>15108407
Golden Knight sure is cute. Not exactly sure what else she has going for her aside from what I hear with being able to carry lots of your luggage though.
>>15108556
> carry lots of your luggage
If any of your pets are melee units then this becomes a moot point. I'm not even a melee and she would be useless if that's all she offered. And it is all she has going for her.
I have multiple melee pets, the only reason I don't have more is because I can't figure out any unique methods of attack. It's gotten to the point where I'm considering a shadow step + Zero Shoot/Shining Wave hybrid combo. Should be good desu.
>>15108632
I've learned not to rely on shining wave because its prone to killing allies.
Wait, so if I don't update, I can reroll my Kumiromi Scythe until it gets OP stats?
>>15108506
So the answer is no, basically!
Also do pets staying at home get exp? Any other info on this?
My younger sister keeps leveling up.
>>15108331
I'm fine with this, there's no reason for miracle/godly to exist if precious is always better, and that's a little boring in a roguelike.
>>15108506
Don't sleeping giants fall asleep often though, even through sleep immunity?
>>15109156
They do seem kinda lazy.
>You can harvest Rod of Wishing from magic seeds
I actually have no idea what to wish for. Should I put a God Altar in my home? It's still an unupgraded cave, so idk if it'll get kept when I get enough money for a real house.
Man this shit's gonna be OP with the new food shop
My sandbagged monster keeps going to this certain spot in my house every time I reenter my house even when I sandbagged her in a different spot. I also tried putting water tiles around that certain spot. While it does make the monster stay at a different place, when I remove the water tiles it goes back to that spot again when I leave the house.
What the fuck is going on here?
>>15109267
>altar
No, especially if you live next to palmia or plan to.
>it'll get kept
Yes. All your stuff gets stuffed into a pile at your new home.
Keep it when you need to summon a god for the special reward, maybe. Or if you don't have 7LB/aurora ring/happy bed yet then you may want to just spend it on those.
>>15109439
Spooky!
>>15109394
Depends on how you look at it. The way I see it, you can truly play a peaceful character now . People please try to contain your laughter. Please? With a food shop, a farmer can now make a nice bit of gold comparable to how much an adventurer can make clearing high level dungeons if they have enough farm fields. No longer do farmers need to be jelly of adventurers!Also no reason why anyone should be poor now.
>>15109514
Looking forward to the shop changesNow if anna would stop putting custom releases on e+ patches off for a week or two...
>>15109045
If you're looking for something early game then the android might fit the bill. If you're already in act 3 then probably not.
>>15109439
Try using the house board to set it's location somewhere else.
>>15109562
>Try using the house board to set it's location somewhere else.
I tried it and it doesn't work.
It seems that depending on where the monster
appears when it is summoned, the sandbagged monster would stay on that spot after leaving the house as long as it's a walkable tile regardless of where you used the sand bag on it.
>>15109045
>do pets staying at home get exp?
Some actions give exp to all allies on current map. For example, if you come home and get traveling experience, pets in your home will get the exp too. Other than that - no, as far as I know.
>>15109774
That's fascinating though, thanks anon.
Nice way to level up weaker pets I suppose, at least early.
Also, I feel like I'm seeing adventurers a lot more often in the newer versions, like two to three times as much, idk if it's only me but I enjoy running into them more often in towns.
>>15110152
That's by design. Apparently adventurers in earlier versions used to just hang out in one general area. Now they tend to spread out all over the place whether that be North Tyris, South Tyris, or Irva.
>>15110277
That's pretty nice, makes adventurers and the game feel a little more alive.
>>15108407
Duck > the rest since I haven't used them.
>>15109527
Sorry anon, but I'm much busier now than I was when I first started Custom. I still try to put out an update build on the Friday after a new release (which is my day off). The past two weeks have just been bad because we got 2 new E+ versions back to back.
But don't worry, custom will be updated for 1.57 tonight.
>>15111536
Don't listen to him. I, for one, and I'm sure the majority of anons, appreciate the time and effort you put into this project. Thank you for your continuous hard work.
>>15084114
So I'm just playing the tutorial of this, and it says it's better to move with the keypad. However I have a tenkeyless keyboard, will that seriously hamper gameplay?
I have both Jure and Itzpalt in my house. Apparently Jure became an alcolohic because she cant get out (i am not holding her hostage i s-swear !), she fucks with Itzpalt and they begin fighting, those neverending lightning bolts of Itzpalt lays ruin to my house (every decoration is fucking burned, goodbye rank 1 home)
So what the fuck do i do ?
>>15111970
Very yes. I think movement is hardcoded.
>>15111970
I have over 700 hours and never used the keypad
I just use arrowkeys and the normal number keys
>>15111970
>Tenkeyless
I thought this meant arrows. No, I don't think you'll have issues. I don't have a numpad either and I've never suffered for it.
>>15112037
>>15112046
How do you guys move diagonally? Do you have to give up hotkeys for it?
I'm running low on hotkey slots as it is.
>>15112037
>>15112046
Alright, thanks. It took me a while to figure out what the fuck tutorial-man meant by "press 9", but I got it now
>>15112052
>>15112053
Up arrow in conjunction with the left/right ones. It's a bit tricky but it's not hard with even small amounts of practice.
There's a tutorial..?
>>15112058
Yes, there is a tutorial
I just got out of the tutorial and I got killed by a hermit crab, RIP.
By the way, my character doesn't have a sprite (it's just a shadow) and I saw one monster that was just a big white square. I'm running through WINE on Gentoo GNU+Linux, is this a known issue or did I fuck up the installation somewhere? Most things do have proper graphics, though.
>>15112073
> sprite (it's just a shadow)
Something, somewhere, is fucked up. Try pressing c and p. See what happens when you change the values there.
>>15112076
I can't change any other than portrait
>>15112086
Are you
>>15108313
?
>>15112128
Good because I was worried I'd screwed you over with my rambling.
As for your issue, I recommend deleting the game and then re-downloading it. I've heard of people using WINE to great effect.
>>15112193
A few files might just be corrupted, I'll look into it. It seems to only affect my sprite (which is not there) and the sprite for rabbits (which is a white box)
Also, this game is very lewd isn't it? I'm only just getting started and I've already "learned the pleasure of being hit hard" and tried to put a leash on a little girl
>>15112239
You'll see that being hit hard flavour text a lot. I think it's the message whenever you gain CON stat.
>>15111536
No pressure Anna, just ranting!
Take your time. I definitely appreciate all the work you've done for the game.
>>15112472
E+C1.57 is up now.
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:17104#472
Also did vanilla 1.57 fix all the bugs introduced by vanilla 1.56?
>>15112578
>includes E+1.57
Thank you. Why is 1.57 hidden at the bottom of the Elona wiki anyway? Is the build not stable or something?
>>15112781
No, it's up top too but I felt like direct linking would be best.
Did you see this yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLKalctcEEU
>>15098589
horee shiet anon what are you doin. I thought I told you in the /sgg/ thread to go to the king's room in palmia to remove your clothing from visibility
>>15114673
oh wait that was a different anon.
anyway sleep whenever it says to sleep you silly person.
>>15108477
Ah! It's taken me several days and re-reading that line several times before I finally read it correctly. Guess I better try re rolling a few of the artefacts that I'll actually use.
Anyone know what the gauge release Mind Break invokes off of? Wiki doesn't seem to say.
It seems to crash my game half the time and doesn't really do all that much when it doesn't.
I suppose insanity and dim is neat? But this is why I have pets with Eye of Insanity and Insult.
Running 1.57 Custom, incase it's just something on my end.
Any of the eye special actions except eye of brainwashing.
How are you using it if you don't know what it invokes off of?
I have been playing for about 10 hours of gameplay now and I'm starting to lose the motivation to play mostly due to the lack of goals that I can attain in a short amount of time. I'm mostly just mindlessly running around the map and doing quests to get the money for a palace deed.
>>15114959
That's a bad sign anon. In a sandbox type game like this you gotta be able to make your own goals and stay motivated.
>>15114958
Wow, Really?
Seems a waste of a Gauge, but alright. Thanks for the quick answer.
No, I have pets who have Eye of Insanity (Black Cat) and Dimness (Gwen) who were AI'd to use the eye actions from quite a bit before when the new invoke was added and just noticed random crashes in the middle of fights. I tend to tl;dr most updates and just see for myself.
Man I wish we got some sort of gap-closer earlyish, maybe a feat. I guess I'll pump stealth for all my melees, as little sense as that makes.
>>15114959
>I'm starting to lose the motivation to play mostly due to the lack of goals that I can attain in a short amount of time
Definitely not the right mindset to have for this game. Everything about this game requires anywhere from a moderate amount of grinding to a lot of time invested to get something. It's rewarding though. You start off insanely weak and as you overcome the challenges in the game and grow in power there is a sense of satisfaction to be had. All of it takes time and a a bit of thought and strategy though. Elona is definitely not a game for the impatient and for people that hate repetition.
For the most part, people either embrace the grind or go back to another game where the rewards are easier and faster to achieve.
>>15114860
>Mind Break
Deals nerve and mind damage dependent on enchant level of equipment and Magic and Will stats.
Also deals MP damage.
Also increases target's sanity by the same amount as Eye of Insanity.
Also causes the same amount of Dim as Eye of dimness.
Also causes the target to vomit.
Unique NPCs and characters immune to dim will be unaffected by dim and insanity.
IT's in the 1.56 changelog.
>>15115129
Shadow step is gained at thirty stealth. Just 'r'est near lots of N{PCs with high potential. Don't waste level up poiints on it.
>>15115818
I'LL WASTE ALL MY POINTS ON IT
And I know, usually takes quite a few levels to attain though.
Nowadays you can start predator and select stealth as your special skill and you end up with 19 something levels on it.
I've been playing an Elea mage and have mostly only focused on casting and a bit on firearms.
I'm around level 40 now and noticed I have less than 10 levels in all the melee related combat skills. Is this something that will screw me over in the late game, or am I good to keep relying on magic?
>>15117506
Screwed? No, but you won't have as much of an easier time as hybrids. You can rely on casting as your only damage source for a very long time though. Don't know what or where your late game is but it isn't until you start seeing level 140+ enemies that a character that draws from different damage sources really starts to shine. It's those kind of enemies that you'll start to see that have immune/high resists to spells, love to silence(and have the hex last for quite some time), and have the HP to actually make the fight drag on so they can bring their full power to bare. You may run out of MP during the fight and wish you had another good damage source to finish the fight. Or you'll wish you could just use your MP for only heals and just use your other attack skills.
Still, a pure caster type should be fine if they over level themselves for a situation or come prepared to deal with the pitfalls listed above. Just keep in mind that the fight could of been easier if you were a hybrid.
>>15117623
Oh, and can't forget enemies that love to make you go insane which leads to confused and dim. Both makes casting treacherous as a miscast will either zap you of all your MP or blow up your character killing him/her. It's a lot safer to approach these enemies with melee or range skills.
How come moongate names are all in mojibake even though I ran in Japanese locale? Can I only fix this by running the regular Japanese version of Plus?
>>15117623
>>15117660
Thanks. I have been working on magic device as well as a backup to getting silenced. I will try to put some more work into firearms just in case I need some non-magic damage.
>>15117879
If you draw some of your damage from firearms remember this. The skill marksman is where most of your damage comes from as it's prime responsibility is raising damage multiplier. The firearms skill raises accuracy so if you're missing too much raise that skill. Something to keep in mind if you're wondering where to spend skill points on level up or gotten through AP.
Finally, remember that you spike your damage through special ammo on your ammo. Some players will even carry around multiple bullets just so they have a nice pool of special ammo to draw from. This is especially possible to do if you just throw your bullets into the 4d pocket.
New player here, I accidentally put on a doomed item and my one scroll of uncurse didn't fix it. Is there an easy way to un-fuck myself?
>>15118034
Talk to the nun NPC in town that can uncurse your equips for you. It will cost a few thousand gold. There should be one in every town. In Vernis she's with the magic vendor.
>>15118227
I'll try collecting a few thousand gold while teleporting all over the place, then
>>15118248
Just looked it up and it's 2500 gold. If you've got a blessed bottle of water you can also Mix that with your cursed things to make them blessed instead (not sure if this works with currently equipped items, never tried it).
So 1.57 isnt on the main page, is it some kind of secret alpha experimental build or should i upgrade already ?
>>15118011
I'm a Gunner, but I managed to get my hands on <Shena's Panty> which vastly outperforms my current gun even with my throwing at only level 4. Should I just give up on firearms altogether and level throwing?
>>15118526
No. There are much better guns you can get later that will outperform all throwing weapons. If you want to just take a break from guns for a bit to use those panties that's understandable but there isn't a reason to drop firearms altogether.
>>15118408
Probably just haven't gotten around to updating it yet. 1.57 is out and so is the custom mod for it. Haven't had any problems with it so far myself.
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:21906
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:17104
What skills should I spend my bonus points at, assuming that they are all at low levels.
>>15118712
Depends on what you are. The skills that you use to deal your damage are a safe bet. Various utility skills, especially cooking, is nice to get to a decent value as soon as possible. Consult the pastebin in OP for beginner tips and general information on commonly asked questions and suggestions on stuff to do:
http://pastebin.com/Zcavai8x
>>15118712
I wouldn't spend your bonus points on a low level skill unless you desperately need to level it up - typically saving points for high level skills at low potential is the most bang for your buck.
brainwashing is horseshit
>>15119134
Think having enough resists, possibly mind, helps prevent it. You have to be diligent in raising it though. I have superb+++++ in all my resists and while creatures in normal dungeons can't brainwash me, creatures deep in the void certainly can. Probably got to stack more resists. I agree though. Brainwash is one of the worst status ailments to have placed on you because you remove your gear which causes a loss of resists and immunities. A recipe for disaster if you're surrounded by enemies salivating at casting spells and other bad stuff on you. Think pets that are brainwashed might attack you as well.
Do soul spindle allies retain the equipment they were wearing?
Can you lose precious equipment when you die?
>>15119344
I think so. If you can't get it from where you died, the only way to get it back is through the Little Sister quest rewards.
>>15119344
Yes. Only way I know of to get back a loss precious item is to do the Little sister level 30 quest.
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Little_sister_level_30
>>15119360
>>15119361
Damn, that quest looks hard. Looks like I'll just have to store them in my house till I'm strong enough to take on a Big Daddy.
How good is Martial Artist? It looks a bit weak early game but the late game power looks tempting.
>>15121180
Pretty wild, actually. The main issue I have with it is that it's not as versatile as multi-wielding. I mean that you can't give your character twelve arms and twelve weapons/shields for all the damage reduction procs or invokes etc. You can still use shields though so it's not all bad.
>>15121180
Working on an MA char right now. Two big problems at low key levels: you do shitty damage without claws/tonfas, but your accuracy will be shitty if you wear them. This becomes less of a issue later on when you unlock MA skills which add in some great utility and damage.
>You can use Sexy Dance in Party Time quests to get points
This game just gets lewder and lewder
What are some good pets to get at early game (less than level 20) and would still be good at late-game?
Is Necromancy any good?
Also, does anyone remember that japanese site where you can download lots of character sprites and PCCs? I forgot what it's called.
>>15123617
Can't comment on necromancy as I haven't given it a hard look at it yet. I do know that it has steadily been buffed over the various versions.
Some good early pets are the little girl, younger sister, older sister, gwen, probably all of the god pets, warrior/wizard Eleas, fire dragon child, fox brother, younger cat sister, M girl, or pretty much any pet with a low INI that you feel is worthwhile.
Sprites can be downloaded from pixiv or from here:
http://www.elonaup.x0.com/sozai/index.htm
Additional links to stuff you might be interested in are in the OPs pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/vZ8Hfw6C
>>15123768
>http://www.elonaup.x0.com/sozai/index.htm
Ah yes this is the one, thank you.
>>15123617
>Necromancy any good?
Yes. Less fuss than pets, scales in power with you, you can have a whole bunch of them, replenishable in fights. They don't replace pets, but complement them very well. Grab palmia/lumiest/etc coffins if and when you can.
>>15123617
This guy >>15123768 is pretty spot on
Little Girl, any of the deity pets, any of the "Diary" pets, etc. are pretty good
Remember, weaker pets early on are actually superior to stronger pets in late game due to INI.
Pretty much any pet that is a cute girl is also a good choice long term.
>>15123768
>>15123949
>>15124041
Got it. Thanks
I've been wondering - how good are the gods and inner gods as pets? Do they keep killing themselves and you with map-wide attacks?
>>15124073
God-recruiting penalty.
>>15124073
Sadly, when you recruit the gods and their inner god forms they either lose some of their special attacks or they're nerfed very hard. Also yeah, the god recruiting penalty that anon talks about hurts too. What you're left with is a god that is a mere shadow of how powerful they were and are incredibly hard to train due to high INI. Despite that, if you're willing to deal with all of that it, you have some interesting pets from a role playing perspective including lewds. Seriously, be thankful you're one of the few or the only one to bury your face into the pillowy mammaries of Ehekatl or even deflower one of them.
>>15124250
You don't need to recruit them as pets to fug them though. All you need to do is invite them to your house and raise their relationship level via gifts and friendship tokens. Then you just use squeeze on them over a bed and be as lewd as you want. Collect all their bloods.
I invited all the deities to my house and screwed them on the regular while they get drunk and vomit everywhere. Although I don't lewd Ehekatl or Lulwy too much anymore after inviting Kumi and Mani over. That wouldn't be a nice thing to do.
>>15124138
>>15124250
Huh? Is god-recruiting penalty applied after ini calculation?
>>15124324
Don't know when it's applied but the INI value is bad. I have the inner god version of Ehekatl. Speed and attributes are higher than default due to me training her for a bit but shelving her for other pet projects. May work on her at a future date.
>http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Changelog_%28Elona%2B%29
>[Changes affecting only the English version - an *unofficial* list]
> "You have no gag reflex." in the profile has been changed to "Your jokes are terrible.".
FUCKING SJWS ARE CENSORING OUR GAME BROS
>>15124785
THOSE FUCKING SJWS!!!!!1111 WHAT IF ME OR MY WAIFU ARE SNEKS? THAT'S LIKE DENYING SNEKS EXIST!!!!1111Seriously though, glad to see more translation corrections. Thanks whoever is responsible.
>>15124282
Well yeah I guess you can do that too but don't you want naked apron play with Jure while she cooks you breakfast in the morning? How about having them climb into bed with you of their own accord? Becoming the godslayer to tap that. Certainly the Rance of goals in Elona. My goal is more humble. I just want to retire away with my golden knight and live my life as a part time adventurer and part time shopkeeper where I peddle the loot I find and the things I make as a blacksmith.
>>15125497
Scratch the godslaying part. Seems like you just need to be high enough level to astral pen them. Think you can do that without provoking them. At least, their regular form. Not sure about their inner form. Seems like a very hostile and dangerous mating ritual seeing as I can't imagine them being happy about being defeated prior to that form.
>>15084114
Isnt this game kinda dead?
>>15125552
Far from it. Game keeps getting updated with stuff frequently. Then there's Elona Custom that's translating stuff for it and is also adding new features to the game too.
>>15125517
3 - 4 great gifts (can get cheap gifts from general vendors and use scrolls to change them), half of their level, have enough magic ink, then astral light pen.
Inner gods are doable, the amount of gifts remain the same, main problem is that unless you have equal speed to them, the 4 turns it takes to get them to soul mate is probably enough to kill you.
The Gods are all 350, so you need to be level 175 yourself. (and 35 magic ink iirc) Inner Gods are all 600, so you need to be level 300, and 60 magic ink I think?
In the regular game though it's not that great to use the Astral on them if you're looking for artifact weapons and such, since a lot of the Lost Irva artifacts are locked behind Astral Light Pen recruitment - as in the Gods that drop them don't drop them on death. That with the INI hit and the god recruitment penalty, the Gods are only a choice if you want them for fluff reasons.
>>15125552
The servers are kill.
>you will never again see Ray of Gay Jay melting in mines
Why live.
>>15125769
Most likely his partner or the same person.
>>15125769
Damn, we will never know what happens to Zyklon Knight White.
How do enemies scale in this game with your level?
>>15126250
Enemies don't scale. Rather harder enemies are introduced based upon the highest level dungeon cleared. Then theres the void where enemies just progressively get stronger the further you go.
You can easily get a better understanding just by playing the game.
>>15125626
>can get cheap gifts from general vendors and use scrolls to change them
WHAT
Are you serious?
Why didn't anyone tell me I could just change all my cheap gifts to good ones?
>>15124785
>Changes affecting only the English version
> "You have no gag reflex." in the profile has been changed to "Your jokes are terrible.".
WHY WOULD THEY DO THIS
>>15126258
>Enemies don't scale. Rather harder enemies are introduced based upon the highest level dungeon cleared.
Thank you very much.
I'll play the game.
>>15126267
Apparently the "gag reflex" was a mistranslation.
The new translation is the japanese meaning.
And it's shit.
>>15124785
What's the relationship between terrible jokes and the inability to vomit? I don't understand this change.
>>15126355
Well I still prefer the previous translation, but I feel better knowing that it was just changed to the original Japanese description.
Still stupid though, I like the silly, lewd parts of the game.
>>15126374
The no gag reflex was an awful translation of the original Japanese. Makes me think it's a machine translation. The word gag can mean mean to retch or it could also mean make jokes. This is where the machine probably tripped up. It looks like it was fixed to convey what was really being said.
>>15125769
Is that why I can finally read my log now and why my game loads faster on my toaster? I'm fine with them being dead then. It was funny and maybe interesting for a bit but it quickly got annoying as hell as I saw tons of people dying to the same shit and clogging up my log. It's just people dying in the puppy caves, starving in the wilderness, or melting down in the mines. Why do I fucking care after awhile? Glad I can finally see what's happening to my character instead.
>>15127749
You could always turn it off.
>>15127749
Actually, why were so many people dying in the puppy cave? Memes aside, it's not a dangerous place. As well, most deaths were to putits. Wtf? Why weren't they dying to Amurdad or adventurers or whatever?
>>15127922
Kobolds really hurt for a fresh lvl 1-2 character.
>>15127922
If I had to guess, part of the reason is that not many people even got that far. Of the people that did get that far, I'm sure there were some deaths. The problem is that such deaths flew underneath the radar because an avalanche of deaths from beginners, that most likely would be dying in beginner related areas, buried those deaths in the log.
I've seen a couple of people come up on my log as dying to chaos fort bosses, one of them to Lulwy, and a couple to Zeome and the second continent boss. Had to be paying attention to my log to spot them though. Also, once you get far enough in the game people have probably learned what they can and can't take on and have learned how to survive better so they don't die as often.
>>15127922
By the time you get to late game, you don't actually die very easily assuming you've actually gotten to Act 3 in any stable fashion. With around 800 speed (the limit Leold can take you to in Act 3) you actually outspeed the majority of level 100 - 130 dungeons and surviving isn't an issue. The tough part is grinding up to 800 speed, and a lot of people just get bored before that, even with the Void being a good place for speed upper pots. If you're into savescumming, there's always the free medal hermes pot graveyard run or temple run that can be done at level 1 to get you to whatever speed you can tolerate grinding to.
Pet masters can get even more ridiculous, as long as you have enough gold to keep your pets potentials up and food to boost their stats, you can get a stat average ratio of 7:1 (stats to level). If you're looking for some gauge of what this looks like - a nerfed level 164 undeadgod Ulzassil has a stat to level ratio of 1.8 to 1. The tough part is grinding out herbs and food, and even that can be savescummed safely if you're into it, since Vernis has the "free herb cave". The less pets you have, the easier keeping this ratio up gets.
Basically, no reason to die later on in act 2 - 3 unless you trying to actively stay as weak as possible to keep the game somewhat challenging. Things change once you hit the 160 - 170 threshold where Gods start spawning in dungeons. An Atlas hits harder than Ulzassil, which is kind of funny.
>>15128050
To add on to this, a list of common player killing mobs.
In the very early game. Performers and Kobolds can be very nasty since the former has ranged attacks and the latter hits like a truck depending on your race. Slimes can also be terrible since they can melt you down to nothing.
In Act 1 depending on how you build and your equip/resist set up, dragons and casters like Lichs can be terrible depending on whether they can abuse your elemental resists. Without mist of silence for the latter they can get real annoying real quick.
As you start to get into Act 2, things like Bomb Rocks and shit that show up and go boom for 99999 damage can ruin a run. Liches and dragons usually stop being much of a problem, and if you die to them it's a sign you haven't gotten good equipment resists or countermeasures like silence/weaken.
The Yith can be troublesome in the transition between Act 1/2 and late Act 2, but really they aren't that bad if you focus them down instead of letting them do whatever. Xeren Satellite Units/Fighters/Tanks however are pretty dangerous due to their speed and sonic booms.
If you last into Act 3, generally the former enemies become manageable except for things like Bomb Rocks, and if you can do level 100 dungeons, generally 100 - 140 is just a steady climb as you get more health and stats. The performaid bitchiacks can be a real menace with their MP breath though.
Then Atlas and Five Element Dragons start showing up and you're basically in for it if your stats aren't already phenomenal. The threshold where they start showing up, like 150 - 160 range I think is where you're basically looking at end game short of fighting the neutral NPC Gods.
>>15127938
also if you loiter too much you'll get things like asuras
>>15128198
Reminds me how some unlucky low level anon was just loitering around in the wilderness when a Yith creature showed up. I sometimes wonder if Elona is a sentient creature that is truly scheming of ways to end you. Spawning a Yith creature on someone...that's cold Elona.
Pic related is your new character. How do you build her? What's her(?)backstory? Who are her companions? Why do they fight? How do they fight?
>>15128050
>free medal hermes pot graveyard run or temple
Uh. What are those?
>>15128457
Not that anon but I think he's referring to how various maps have hidden gold medals that you have to search for to get. Not exactly sure how save scumming allows you to collect more medals because once you've gotten them that's it. I don't think they respawn or anything. I personally just farm gold medals from dungeon bosses and get my herb seeds from Kumiromi statues. Eventually was able to have enough farms where my diet was completely herbs.
>>15128310
How is this even possible? Mutant? But why part sheep?
Anyway her backstory was that she's naive but a genius. If I'll add in more than the game offers, she chugged down own of her own potions because she was poor as fuck after being conned one after another and now she's a mutant with 4 legs. Later on she'd grow more hands and carry all the best weapons she can grab while riding a lightning fast kirin. She fights because she has to pay taxes. Her fighting style is shadowstepping in a group of enemies and casting sound ball to obliterate all enemies in her vicinity, her allies would pick out the stragglers.
Its pretty eh, but its impromptu so yeah. Sheep girl magician with multiple hands.
>>15128657
>How is this even possible? Mutant?
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Sheep
What does she like to do in her spare time? Any hopes? Dreams? How is she with her allies? For backstory I meant something more along everything after 'offers' in your post and before 'Later on'. Basically your own take on her as a potential character.
>Her fighting style is shadowstepping in a group of enemies and casting sound ball to obliterate all enemies in her vicinity, her allies would pick out the stragglers.
So she's a warmage? Where did she learn how to fight like that? I figured her more as an archer. Guess that's just me being prejudiced against sheep-folk.
>>15128457
You can reset a map entirely by using the enter+delete method. The graveyard has 2 medals, the temple has 3 + 4 herb seeds. Basically what you'd do is run over there early on, get in, grab the medals and whatever loot you want, get out, reset the map, repeat. You can get as many medals as you want this way. When you use enter+delete and reset the map, all the medals get reset as well. Graveyard is generally easier since it's also closer to the dwarves, but the union ground/temple has nice herb seeds.
Some people consider it cheating, but hey, it's a one player game so play it however you want.
It's the same method that you'd use to farm herbs from Vernis's Slime Cave, though that one is much safer since the herbs are really early on. It does get pretty fucking boring though, and might not be the way you want to play the game. Early on, 300 speed is more than enough to outspeed most things. If you somehow grind to the magic 800 number early for some reason, you'll start outspeeding bells. (770 or so)
It's a painful and obnoxious grind in some cases.
>>15128657
Guess you could go the extreme with that and run a full set of horse/kentaur/sheep allies and just pretend you're a flock of supermad sheep terrorizing Nefia.
>>15128684
No. She's a pianist.
>>15128310
You were a sheep taken care of by your Juere shepherd masters. The Juere are a nomadic warrior culture that prides itself on their survival skills and strength. Unfortunately, or fortunately, a particularly potent ether storm rolled in and it mutated you. Now you're this weird hybrid sheep that took on human characteristics(mutant sheep).
You have two leg slots to take advantage of two pair of boots for your hooves. Aside from that you have normal body slots. From your masters which now treat you like a daughter they never had, you learned how to be a farmer(class). Being raised up a Juere you've learned how to fight as well so you've picked up some melee skills. You left on an adventure to see more of the world.
>>15128747
Who has she met on her adventure so far?do you need some inspo.?
>>15128684
What do you want to do with this anon? I'll bite anyway since I'm kinda interested.
Like I said before, she's a genius. She's a natural on many fields and that's why she's a jack-of-all-trades, possibly master of everything she's in if you're autistic in playing. Her personality is aloof and sensitive to her surroundings so she's easily influenced. She went poor after making many mistakes in her life and she stumbled on North Tyris soon afterward. I don't really care much about her allies but I guess the little girl is someone she traveled with.
Also yeah, she's a pianist but a mage, but also a warrior, but also a sharpshooter, but also a farmer, etc. Jack of all trades and all that bs.
>>15128792
Sometimes when you talk about the NPCs you guys seem to add your own touches to their personalities. Implicitly, I mean. Like
>>15124282
This anon has it that Ehe and Lul are in relationships with Kumi and Mani. This implies, to an extent, that they're 1.) hetero and 2.) the whole war with gods business isn't a thing. I'm interested in how your characters interact with the world and how you go about creating stories for your characters. The kind of stories too.
Could also be good for discussion. FWIW: in my headcanon Kumiromi gave birth to all the gods and Opatos is the father.
