Visual Novel translation status
Amagami - 1st day patch Released for PS2/PSP, "1587/2308 original edition scenario scripts translated (68.7%)"
>Angel Beats 1st Beat - 160445/434217 (36.95%) lines translated
>AstralAir - prologue patch released, 47203/64880 (72.75%) lines translated
Ayakashi Gohan - 49% complete
Black Wolves Saga: All scripts translated and edited 59/65 through TLC
Clover Day's - Common + 2 routes done, other routes + 348/711 KB, 92/764, and 74/722 KB translated
>Dracu-Riot - Patch released with all but half of one route
>HaraKano - patch with 3 routes released
Haruka Na Sora - Sora 11.29% translated, Kozue 23.73% translated
Harumade Kururu - 100% of the initial harem route translated
>Hoka no Onna - 78.15% translated
Irotoridori no Sekai - 3101/50663 (6%) lines translated
Ken ga Kimi: 116/122 scripts translated, 108/122 scripts edited
Kiminozo - Common route translation complete, Haruka route 1st pass complete
>Koiken Otome - 100% translated, 88.90% edited, 86.39% QC, prologue patch released
>Koiseyo Imouto Banchou - 4% (1609/42627) lines translated
Kurukuru Fanatic - 87.5% translated
Lovely Cation- 31.6% of lines completed
Majikoi A-1 - 64%
Mahou Tsukai no Yoru - Commie project actively in editing
Mahou Tsukai no Yoru - 2nd project with 2.2 scripts translated
Mahou Tsukai no Yoru - 3rd project released ch 1-5
Monster girl quest paradox - Being translated, another partial patch released
Muv Luv Total Eclipse - 25% translated
Nursery Rhyme - 12032/32977 lines translated
Oreimo Tsuzuku - All scripts translated, 202/268 through TLC+Editing, 136/268 scripts finalized
Rewrite Harvest Festa - 22583/30040 (75.18%) lines translated
SakuSaku - 100% translated and edited, 48% through TLC
>Sanarara - Project resuming
Sukimazakura to Uso no Machi - 8,448 / 30,513 Lines (27.7%) translated, partial patch released
Tokyo Necro - Project starting
Witch's Garden - 47555/67201 (70.77%) lines translated, 2496/67201 (3.71%) edited, prologue patch released
Yosuga no Sora - Translation status is Common route 100%, Sora route 100%, Nao 100%, Kazuha 100%, Akira 89.73%, Motoka 32.17%, Common and Kazuha fully edited
Official work
MangaGamer
>Tokyo Babel - Released
OZMAFIA - 4/29 release
>House in Fata Morgana - 5/13
Higurashi Hou -Tatarigoroshi: 100% TL+ED
>Bokuten - 79% translated, 70% edited
>Da Capo 3 - 85% translated, 79.3% edited
>Myth - 100% translated, 81% edited
My Boss Wife is My Ex - In testing
>Kuroinu - Being released as 3 seperate chapters, 40% TL 18.13% edited
Supipara - Ch 1 in testing
Himawari - TL and editing finished, in scripting
Umineko - Picked up
>Negai no Kakera - 63.31% translated
Princess Evangile W Happiness - 32.58% translated, 10.6% edited
Imouto Paradise 2 - 36.59% translated, 10% edited
JAST
Seinarukana- Golden master
Flowers - demo released, delayed
Sumeragi Ryoko - Beta, in preorder
Sonicomi - Summer release
Sweet Home - 66% translated
Sumaga- Fully translated, in editing
Trample on Schatten- Translation 86%
Django - Waiting on translation.
Sekai/Denpa
>Root Double - Delayed, April release planned
Fault Milestone 2 - Side Above released, GE still to come
Grisaia trilogy - 2nd title 100% translated, in editing
Narcissu 3rd - TL+Editing done
Narcissu 0 - in TLC
WEE 3 - 40.36% translated
Nenokami - 45.48% translated
Mayoi Hitsuji no Kajuen - 100% translated
Darekoi - 15.77% translated
Kokonoe Kokoro - picked up
Memory's Dogma - Kickstarter reached goal
Chrono Clock - Picked up
Tenshin Ranman - Picked up
Witch Boy - Kickstarter failed
Wagamama High Spec - 2016 release
Hoshizora no Memoria - picked up
Ley Line - picked up
Maitetsu - picked up
Other
>Magical Eyes - Released
Harmonia - Through Steam GL
Little Busters - Picked up
Tomoyo After - Picked up
Muv Luv Trilogy - Extra release in March, Unlimited by early May
Schwarzesmarken - on Greenlight
SubaHibi - Official release planned
Lucky Dog - Possible iOS released based on the ongoing text only fanTL
Work being done on a fanTL of Shin Koihime with hopes of getting it licensed
Wish Tale of the Sixteenth Night - 6764/10293 (65.71%) lines translated
Kyuuketsu Hime no Libra - Kickstarter succeeded
Zero Time Dilemma - Jun 28th release
ChuSingura46+1 - Kickstarter Canceled
Sora wo Aogite Kumo Takaku - Through Greenlight
Corona Blossom - English release planned
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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread
It seems you forgot Bishoujo Mangekyou.
>Dracu-Riot - Patch released with all but half of one route
this is an april fools joke and it's actually the full patch right?
>>15018902
Of course not. How would that be funny?
>>15018902
Some fuwalators are going to finish it, so rest assured.
http://www.nitroplus.co.jp/news/2016/04/160402_4796.php
>ニトロプラス15周年記念作品、18禁PCゲーム『凍京NECRO＜トウキョウ・ネクロ＞』の一般対象版が発売決定！
To be used in a possible EOP release?
>>15018902
>>15018964
>>15019041
https://miuquickscripts.wordpress.com/2015/03/02/mius-route-completed/
Got you guys covered. :)
You know that Angel Beats line count is not the actual line count at all, right? He dumped the scripts and is counting literally every single line in them, including name tags and code. If you're making an actual comparison to what every other project in the world calls a line, it's less than 10% of that number.
I just want to give them my money so they need to just get Umineko on steam already.
I told you, niggers. I told you about Dracu-Riot. I kept telling you every week for 2 fucking years and you didn't believe me. ざまぁ見ろ
>>15019587
What am I even reading.
It's a dead man's party. Who could ask for more? Everybody's comin', leave your body at the door.
>>15018668
Sumaga when?
>>15020047
By the time it comes out, it won't be compatible with any version of current windows (probably like windows 15), and it will be stalled again for rescripting/recoding.
>>15020047
>>15020054
Hasn't it been 10 years or so now? I still listen to the soundtrack.
Were you looking forward to reliable tracking information for the next two months? Too bad, it's bundle time. There's no bundle counter either, so one can't even attempt to filter out the noise later.
Top 5 Ranking: http://pastebin.com/F879Z1KR
Popularity Sort: http://pastebin.com/EKGVxesz
Full Data Point List: http://pastebin.com/xJxKNfum
As always, this tracker is powered by anonymous like you, so post order numbers if you've got em'.
>>15020149
Before bundle:
Order Number - 170387
Order Date - 2016-04-01 19:46:19
One of the bundle orders:
Order Number - 180332
Order Date - 2016-04-03 05:15:03
>Angel Beats 1st Beat - 160445/434217 (36.95%) lines translated
This doesn't seem to be listed on VNDB. Anybody have more information on this project?
>>15020118
Close to 8 years.
>>15020362
its on reddit. There's a preview video. The english seems kinda bad but its a fan TL so whatever. It's a pretty big game and I don't know why that guy is wasting his time working on it for free. I also don't understand why westerners idolize Maeda/Key so much. Actually, It's probably because the only nakige they are exposed to is shit adapted into anime like Clannad and they seem to think nakige are kamige. Since Key seems open to the west, I hope that guy tries to get that shit officialized. People translating shit and buying shit officially shows Japanese devs that a market exists in the west.
>>15020379
Here we go with the plebbitors.
>>15020379
I went in with the lowest of the low expectations and came out pleasantly surprised. The phrase "it'll be fine after the editor does his job" seems like it might apply for once.
>>15020379
Yeah, because if you translate something as a hobby you "must" to sell it to SP/VisualArts, if not is "shit" right?
And are you pretty sure that you know what is the definition of nakige and kamige? Because Clannad is none of these.
>Koiseyo Imouto Banchou - 4% (1609/42627) lines translated
Is the translator any good? He has a thread on Fuwanovel so I assume he's shit.
>>15020439
Not him, but "nakige" literally means "crying game," and Key also invented the formula for nakige when they were still Tactics and have released most of their games since using evolved forms of that basic formula.
There's hardly any argument that CLANNAD isn't a nakige.
Also,
>seem to think nakige are kamige.
You're arguing against his perception of other people's opinions in the first place.
>>15020149
Order Number - 169985
Order Date - 2016-04-01 03:23:45
>>15020523
>You're arguing against his perception of other people's opinions in the first place.
Not him but that stupid statment can be applied to anyone; no one has a identical perception and thats why we have our own opinion and argue against others.
So Good_Haro mentioned that MangaGamer's got more BL and Otomege lined up and I was wondering, how viable is Nitro+Chiral?
The thought popped into my head when the email sent for MangaGamer's April Fools sales mentioned a Watanabe Studio, which made me think of Watanabe Kazuhiro, who composes songs for a good number of Nitro+ games, including Nitro+Chiral.
>>15018668
>Da Capo 3 - 85% translated, 79.3% edited
Only 2 more years to go.
>>15020742
Why is /jp/ SFW when nobody has a job?!
>>15020721
I wouldn't expect anything from Nitro+ since it's associated with JAST. Also, most of their titles have been fantranslated, which lowers the chances of them being licensed by MG.
>>15020721
Isn't mangagamer still pretty skittish about licensing titles with fan translations? With that in mind, I don't really think nitro+chiral is happening.
I'm kind of tempted to assume that the title is
>https://vndb.org/v7769
since it has all the right ingredients. VA is interested in the west, but not exclusive with anyone. All ages version. "HD". Haro played it if I recall. >and some double trouble. The only thing stopping me from being sure is that the fan translation project for it hasn't been shut down.
>>15020747
I have a front office investment banking job
I love the sense of alpha superiority it brings. No one cares about your hobbies or your eccentricities when you have money
>>15020777
>Isn't mangagamer still pretty skittish about licensing titles with fan translations?
If they can't go on Steam, then they're most likely not happening. ef's extremely poor sales basically killed the chances of existing fan TLs being licensed outside of Steam releases.
>not advertising Gahkthun while there's still hype from the Tesla Model 3 announcement
Why is MG so bad at marketing?
>>15020794
Maybe Gahkthun suck and is one of the worst Liar-soft games?
And the same I can say about Fata Morgana, maybe they want to releas it because is all-ages and they have hopes with Steam but... I don't think it will sell well.
But yeah MG marketing suck; the demo of TB announced in Steam can be downlad only from MG main site after creating an account and there are 0 coments from the staff in these forums.
>>15020879
>the demo of TB announced in Steam can be downlad only from MG main site after creating an account
Incorrect.
http://mangagamer.org/tokyobabel/
>>15020879
Steam is full of people who love horror vns, so Fata Morgana should do fine. Plus, it has decent art and a good soundtrack, which are major selling features.
>>15020879
>Maybe Gahkthun suck and is one of the worst Liar-soft games?
Hahahahah, sounds like you don't know liar soft at all. They've released a lot worse games.
How long is Fata Morgana roughly? If it's a full length vn, then it would appear that MG is experimenting with lowering their prices to increase sales numbers. On Steam, anything over $20 is a tough sell for a vn.
All of that translated to "The Man".
>>15020940
The first three kanji which no one cares about = the
の = space
男 = man
>>15020947
Doctor Cocktor
>>15020895
I doon't think Fata Morgana has the same appeal as Higurashi and Umineko and the art isn't helping, the only goods thing about that VN are the atmosphere and music.
>>15020979
I think the art looks good. And it might attract people who don't usually play vns.
>>15020886
>Incorrect.
Here the link "announced in Steam News":
https://www.mangagamer.com/detail.php?goods_type=1&product_code=166
An average user will go there, after clicking in "Trial version download" will see the this message; "Please log in before proceeding" and dessist. This is a pretty crappy promotion and no many users will go in search for alternative links.
Django - Waiting on translation.
I cry eveytiem.
>>15021012
The file size of the demo is likely a major deterrent as well.
>>15020047
At this point, you might as well read whatever nitroplus you want instead of waiting for jast/makoto.
Damn, the last chapter is a tragedy unfolding before the player's eyes. And I feel worse is yet to come.
>>15018667
>https://twitter.com/le_kaitsu/status/716675834816434176
Looks like 1 route of PE W Happiness has been fully edited.
>>15021317
Hopefully he reads routes BEFORE editing them.
>>15021340
I'm pretty sure kaitsu's a girl, unless ds55's secretly been gay this entire time.
Also not really sure difference it would make to edit it before/after since it's all in spreadsheet and if an add an edit change doesn't fit after you've read further you can just go back and change it.
>>15019182
This is weird because it was only announced to be a pc version so far. Makes me think nitroplus is asking for a localization of this badly.
>>15021492
Perhaps. I'd say it's something that would sell to EOPs.
>>15021497
Yuri would definitely sell, but censored yuri?
>>15021539
Flashy and edgy Nitroplus VN would sell.
>>15021545
I wouldn't consider it edgy though.
>>15021567
Why not?
>>15021574
It's more of a flash VN with some disturbing elements, but nothing I would call total edge like some other things.
Also because at the very core it's all about atrue love story
>>15021624
flashy*
>>15021624
Disturbing and edgy is close to being the same. Edgy just has a more critical tone.
>>15020721
Oh, the Watanabe Studio thing was an inside joke about one of our Japanese staff members, that's all.
>>15020362
>Close to 8 years.
Man, what in the fuck is Jast's problem? How has this company not fucking died?
>>15021539
Hang on, son. Tokyo Necro is yuri? That is definitely right up my alley. Exactly how much yuri are we talking here?
>>15021808
because jast is mostly subsidized by j-list, which makes lots of money marking up matcha pocky to weebs in middle america's suburbia, where there are no asian grocery stores to compete with.
>>15021843
I think one of the protagonists is lesbian.
>>15021870
Yeah, I do see as much.
https://vndb.org/v13666/chars
Can anyone tell me who she fucks? I hope the eyepatch girl.
>>15021892
The guy.
>>15021902
Don't be silly. Why would a lesbian fuck a guy?
>>15021926
Indirect sex.
>>15021926
Why would anybody fuck a guy?
>>15021928
That doesn't even sound real.
>>15021933
A very good question.
>>15021892
>I hope the eyepatch girl.
Unfortunately no, but she fucks adark skinned girl and that blonde girl
>>15021943
>That doesn't even sound real.
It is.
Girl A loves Girl B
Girl B loves Guy A
Guy A fucks Girl B
Girl A fucks Guy A because his dick touched Girl B.
Appears in more than one work.
>>15022040
Stick sisters? Gross.
You know what's fucking stupid? Sekai Project.
>>15022730
Has /jp/ gotten its apology from dovac and plebbit yet?
>>15022747
>Dovac
>apologizing
LOL
Where's my good man MILF autist? I found something he might like.
>>15022830
He's shitposting on /vn/ with his brethren. Thank god he has fucked off.
>>15022830
hi where can i get visual novels? i used to use fuwanovel but they stopped having torrents on their site?
>>15023064
Sukebei
Fuck. I hate seeing the visual novel ads on Nyaa. Why does JAST have preorders for so many fucking VNs that they DON'T HAVE DATES FOR? Fuck this shit, at least MangaGamer has a date ready when they put up preorders. And before you say anything, I usually block ads but I have the Nyaa ones unblocked because sometimes they're funny.
Two new Tokyo Babel reviews:
"This visual novel is top notch with excellent writing, translation, and overall research of esotericism (theosophy and philosophy) within the Abrahamic relgions (particularly in Kabbalistic mysticism and much study of the Ethiopian Book of Enoch). Has surpassed all my expectations (especially being my first visual novel indulgence despite owning Steins' Gate). If you have any interest in the esoteric studies, this game is well worth your time and money. Highly, highly recommended."
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"There's action, romance, comedy, drama, horror, suspense and all of it is just so damned fun. That's Tokyo Babel in a nutshell.
The description on the store page pretty much perfectly sums up the story, and there's a free demo available at the mangagamer site, so I will instead go on about the things I like about this VN that makes me recommend it. Additionally I will remark that I at least enjoyed all the characters and found something to like in all of them, though given how that is somewhat subjective, I would refrain from adding that as a plus.
For a VN it takes up nearly nine gigabytes of space, and all of that space is spent on top quality effects, animations and CGs, all of which make the experience feel a lot less static than your typical VNs. If there's a ball of fire being described, you'll see a ball of fire. If there's a pillar of water, you'll see a geyser effect on your screen. A background will pan around a bit with bits of debris and smoke. The game makes sure the text is usually accompanied with some effect to further immerse you in the action going on. The character sprites bounce around, move from side to side, and are just expressive in general. I haven't seen this in a lot of VNs I played and is just really nice with how much effort they put into it.
The story is gripping, goes along at a good pace, and fills you in on the lore of the place the game is set while never seeming like an info dump. This game is a lot like Fate/Stay Night, taking inspiration from myth and legends and building up their characters from various figures from them. The use of the esoteric in this game is pretty well done, much like Umineko and their handling of the occult, with of course a flair that only the Japanese making a VN with moe characters and grand epic battles can pull off while mixing such things.
The voice acting comes from some of the industry's top talent. If you're halfway interested in anime, you'll hear someone you have heard before from a popular anime. The music is all well done, though personally a part of me feels as though there could have been just a little more variety, though that doesn't at all mean there's a dearth of tracks available. There are thirty unique pieces of music available (from the music selection menu), and they're all pretty darn good. Presentation wise, it's all top stuff.
The best part is that there's a lot of game to play through. VNDB lists about 30 to 50 hours, and I went through one of the three routes available in about 12 hours, so I would say depending on your reading speed, that is about right. This is a LARGE VN, and it's just great. I know I will find no fault with the other routes and will probably only have a better opinion of the game as the later routes. Many people will probably be scared off by the price, but I can say I do not regret paying full price for this VN."
Am I going to do this for every review, you ask? Yes.
>>15023655
>Am I going to do this for every review, you ask? Yes.
Why exactly? There are better places to shill.
>>15023668
Because I can, and it's free.
>>15023690
Well if you want to post stuff that most people are just going skip reading knock yourself out I suppose.
>>15023655
>This visual novel is top notch with excellent writing, translation
How does he know about the writing or translation if it's his first VN and in English?
Fucking EOPs, I swear.
>>15023815
I suppose he means that it was edited well.
When we have text-switching options you'll see more informed comments on translation quality
>>15023655
Are there any reviews from known quantities like blue and green here? https://omochikaeri.wordpress.com/2012/08/01/august-2012-eroge-releases/
Preferably from people who actually enjoy the genre.
>>15023877
>known quantities like blue and green
I hope you're joking. Micchi only cares about muh imoutos and kouhais and Zen hates pretty much everything automatically.
>>15023882
I mean that I know who they are, they aren't just some randos on steam. Like I know who conjueror is, but obviously he has a conflict of interest when it comes to reviewing tokyo babel
>>15023888
>I know who conjueror
Come absolutely random guy that only writes super short reviews about everything. What makes his opinions worth listening to in any way? Might as well listed to fucking Clephas or MDZ.
>>15023888
>obviously he has a conflict of interest when it comes to reviewing tokyo babel
Didn't stop him tho
http://vnrw.wordpress.com/2016/03/28/vn-tokyo-babel/
>>15023888
>>15023904
>>15023930
The only only opinion we need is Moogy's.
>SubaHibi - Official release planned, more news in 2016
>news in 2016
>april 2016
>no news yet
Moogy-hecka-dunno.
>>15024019
If you say his name three times, he will appear!
mugi-kun, mugi-kun, mugi-kuuuuuuun~
>>15024034
No, I like to call him muugi muugi
>>15020979
I thought the art was one it's selling points.
https://youtu.be/3I3Mx9hhQgA
How did the devs even know about this band?
>>15024019
Christmas Eve 2016.......
Jokes aside, its all up to KeroQMakura now. They're not really telling him anything and its all in their hands now on when they want to do shit. For all we know, they could be just working on it hella slow.
>>15024019
>>15024180
It'll be out on the 20th of July.
>>15020940
貿易商 means a trader. Why do even bother to read this shit if you cannot into Japanese?
>>15024180
>KeroQMakura
What is the difference between KeroQ and Makura anyway?
>>15025057
Just different brands. Most eroge companies own 2-5 brands for different game genre/theme/series.
>>15023930
I'd hold back on the spoilers a bit if I was him.
>>15025024
Because when I tried to put the opening into Google Translate, it didn't work.
>>15024147
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_One_%28band%29
Wiki says one of their albums was released in Japan and they're under the EMI Japan record label. Still really strange that some random Canadian Christian band made it into an otome game.
Wow, HunieCam Studio is even cheaper than Huniepop. That is going to outsell Tokyo Babel something fierce.
Speaking of which, new review:
"Finished the game:
- Heroines fights are short and mostly disappointing compared to most of the fights, but the last Samael fight is top notch for me.
- Chuuni fights all over the place and no single character that has 'simple' power. Raison d'etre stuffs really helps making the fight more grand and develops characters at the same time.
- Didn't expect the slice of life scenes to be not so out of place. Can't explain it really well but it really fits the main character groups pretty well.. some of you might not like it though.
- Character endings are satisfying all around instead of just focusing on true end. I didn't expect that considering my previous experience with Higashide is Ayakashibito.
- Some characters feels like they're under developed but at least each of them has their own ending, making them not forgotten to the readers.
it's pretty okay"
>>15026384
Seems it's still selling though.
>>15026415
Unfortunately it fell off the popular new releases in my region (if that is indeed how it works) but let's hope it's still doing well.
>>15026415
>Memes
>>15026427
What's really weird is that MGR actually ISN'T tagged as memes.
>>15026447
You can tag every modern game as Memes, honestly.
>>15026458
http://store.steampowered.com/tag/en/Memes
And so it has been done.
So whatever happened to Chrono clock? Has there been any news since it was announced?
>>15026672
None. Same with Tenshin and Wagamama. For whatever reason Sekai gives absolutely no status updates on their bigger games.
>>15026756
Sekai staus updates are usually: "The devs fucked us over so the game is going to be delayed."
>>15026756
>For whatever reason Sekai gives absolutely no status updates on their bigger games
Probably because they are doing fuck all or having more licensing problems and over promised on something they can't deliver again.
>>15026756
We've been over this, dovac already said on twitter that he doesn't understand why people want status updates on their projects.
>>15026447
I guess you could say their meme tagging ended there.
https://twitter.com/The_Doddler/status/717098236851281921
>>15027701
Speaking of tokyobabel, steamspy has finally managed to pick it up http://steamspy.com/app/443380
Still too early for any information(margin of error is higher than total sales), but the fact it actually got picked up is a good sign(if it didn't it would mean that so few people owned that their crawler never came across one.)
>>15027740
> less than 1000 sales on steam
MG's inability to promote their games is astounding.
Search for news sites reporting releases gave me 2 results: hardcoregamer and n4g, both of which niche and irrelevant as fuck. Even ANN didn't report on launch despite reporting on licensing. Did they expect that people would see random completely unknown game for $35 with no boob bait on front screens and buy it up casually?
>>15027839
Do you really think MG can control what news sites decide to post?
>>15027839
steamspy does a rolling sample of all Steam's users. It takes about a week for it to even start being accurate.
>>15027839
>(margin of error is higher than total sales)
>>15027701
Do these sorts of things fall under fair use, or is it infringement?
>>15027839
Not really sure. Personally I wasn't hyped up about this release
>>15027850
MG can actually build up relationships with people in popular media instead just spamming press releases and hoping it would miraculously work out itself.
Just compare it to how media reports on every little game dovac releases.
>>15027911
For better or worse, raymond goes after the high profile titles. Those market themselves.
>>15027901
A key factor for considering fair use is the amount of content taken from the original work. Just being transformative by adding commentary doesn't make something fair use. That said, it hasn't been tested in courts so no one really knows.
Also, you could argue that it impacts the market of the original work.
http://fairuse.stanford.edu/overview/fair-use/four-factors/#the_amount_and_substantiality_of_the_portion_taken
>>15027901
>Do these sorts of things fall under fair use
The internet doesn't really understand it, but fair use isn't a law, it's a defense.
That's like asking "will I get away with this murder if plead insanity?"
>>15027922
Yeah I can see these youtube longplays being subtitutes for buying, but it's no different from "normal" piracy. And this is an issue for all kinds of games, so its not like MG is solely affected.
For me, I like having these longplays around as a sort of scene replay.
>>15027922
>Just being transformative by adding commentary doesn't make something fair use. That said, it hasn't been tested in courts
Actually, taking someone's work, adding commentary and publishing it was tested in court and it was judged as copyright violation.
>>15027701
And what stops MG not being spineless slimes and click that "report copyright violation" button on every video? 20 parts would earn that fucker insta-permaban.
>>15027962
the last time they took a no tolerance stand they made a mortal enemy of sanahtlig, a very loud person
>>15027962
Probably not wanting to be a dick. DMCA claims for gaming and LPs has been a pretty sore subject lately... even if they would be justified in doing it.
>>15027970
sup sanahtlig
>>15027973
Sony takes shit down when people have like 30 seconds of one of their songs in a video. MG has every right to take that entire channel down. Its like posting an entire movie that came out a week ago on youtube.
>>15028014
Yeah, people totally expect it for music and movies. But the gaming community tends to get upset about LPs getting taken down. The Youtubers feel entitled to profit off LPs.
Nintendo's already doing it on all of their games though, unless you sign up to profit share with them, seems like people have accepted that.
>>15028014
Sony's got access to content ID to get that shit killed quick.
All mangagamer can do is file a claim the old fashioned way. If they can be bothered.
>>15027962
I can count 20 games (several story-driven, such as LISA, The Walking Dead) in my Steam library that I bought expressly because I watched a LP of them. And conversely, I can think of at least 5 I skipped completely because I watched a LP and saw how awful the game was.
If it's really worth the money, then videos like LP will be positive marketing for MG (assuming they don't start being dicks about it, which -always- backfires). If it's not, then LPs and such help expose that. This is especially true for a company that barely advertises.
>>15028104
The videos mentioned by doddler arent LPs. They're 0 commentary, autoread videos for the entire game. Acceptable would be like, beginning/prologue and maybe like fight sequences, comedy sequences. But this is the entire thing, chronological from start to finish without any intent of showcasing anything. It exists only for views/money/channel popularity.
>>15028104
Gameplay and book are different things.
There's literally zero point in "playing" VN after you watched "LP" of entire game.
Didn't MG have "only part of game" policy for LP? It was very sensible idea and this "streamer" is clearly violating it.
>>15028104
But you didn't watch the entire game on LP right? You saw a representative sample and made a decision?
>>15028266
No, I watched the whole thing on nearly every single one (though for some like Slime Rancher it didn't really matter). I explicitly called out the earlier games because there's effectively no replay value to them (Into The Gloom and IMSCARED are other great examples).
I bought them because I saw that they were indeed worth the money. There will always be people who just 'watch & leave', but the converse is also true. Porn is still being made, despite mass pirating. Movies and TV shows are downloaded en-mass from file-sharing sites, and the movie industry still makes billions of dollars. The music industry didn't implode when Napster and Limewire happened. That whole U2 fiasco with iTunes? Suddenly U2 sales went up. Windows is one of the most heavily pirated pieces of software around, and that's before they started giving it out for free. I'm not saying there're no limits, but it is very much in MG's favor to be lenient about them, especially when they have so little presence.
>>15028324
At the very least there has to be a stand against monetization
>>15028347
I personally don't even have a problem with that; not only does MG now not have to pay them to advertise their product, but it gives the channel owner an incentive to try to get as many people to watch the video as possible (and, by extension, make that many more people even aware it exists). I'd have a problem with channel owners trying to use Youtube's fucked-up takedown system against MG, and I'd be okay with MG claiming part of the Ad revenue on a video, but I don't think it's a problem in-and-of itself.
Hell, I would not even know who MG was if I hadn't pirated Shuffle (which I now own through them). I've found so many games and songs that I would've never even known I liked had I not seen LPs or stumbled upon some random pirated upload on Youtube. Discovery's critically important, and videos area a great way to reach people who don't even know they like your stuff yet (and YT will even foot the bill!).
Fata Morgana demo is out.
Tokyo Babel seems more charming than its perception as a generic chuuni VN. I'm liking the comedy and the flashy presentation which isn't exactly common in translated VNs.
I chuckle that the Japanese have to set a fantastical post-apocalyptic story involving angels and demons in high school though.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/441230/
Tokyo Babel looks a bit different from how I remember it...
>>15026808
Did he really say this? MangaGamer has no problem giving status updates, what the fuck is his deal?
He obviously has no progress to speak of. That's Sekai's thing, they SUPPOSEDLY acquire high profile games but only ever actually release low quality garbage. The licenses are only to get them more attention and they have no intention of actually translatng any of those games.
>>15029129
He posted once a screen with one english line inserted in cronoclock, so apparently there was some progress on it.
>>15029154
I mean, I could post a screen of one English line inserted in Albatross. Doesn't mean I'm making progress. It might mean even less because I could just use Photoshop to make it.
>>15029161
One translated line is still progress.
So what's with all the hype for Evolimit? Why is that the Propeller VN that people talk the most about instead of Ayakashibito or Bullet Butlers or Tokyo Babel?
>>15029161
There's even video, https://twitter.com/dobacco/status/706646215761358849
>>15029167
That depends. How do we know it's translated? Maybe they just completely made up a line.
>>15029170
I could make that in Renpy in five minutes tops.
Speaking of copyright infringement, why not just report the video yourself? Any chump can send a copyright claim saying they're MangaGamer, doesn't have to be MangaGamer themselves.
>>15029172
I've played it and prologue had something like picrelated, so its definitely not "completely" made up.
I guess I can do quick TLC on that video since I'm bored atm anyway.
>>15029178
If you're not willing to believe that, why would you believe any progress report? It could all be lies.
>>15029201
For one thing, MangaGamer actually goes on to release their games.
>>15029209
Well you're consistent, but I'm more talking about that guy who was asking for a progress report. Why ask if you're not going to believe one?
Sometimes I think /jp/ goes a little bit off the deep end in their dovac hate.
>>15029195>>15029170
Okay, I checked lines in video, and while there's no factual mistakes this time, this shit is still hilarious.
Original lines for comparison:
puu dot sh/o6KLO/72206b1faf.png Instead of throwing away details, SP now decided to make up new details
puu dot sh/o6KNv/331b2d7d7d.png nitpicking, but I hate how they handled "、か"
puu dot sh/o6KP8/d8efed1908.png
puu dot sh/o6KQY/99aef628cd.png
puu dot sh/o6KTi/1f0a9df970.png this one is best. How the fuck you turn such simple and short phrase into picrelated monstrosity?
>>15029228
A progress report would be the first step towards showing they can actually be believed.
>>15029261
Why does this game have such a garbage interface? As if the standard ADV format of barely showing any text on screen wasn't bad enough, this game only shows one at a time. What the fuck? Just use NVL. Fucking hate visual novels.
>>15029278
>As if the standard ADV format of barely showing any text on screen wasn't bad enough, this game only shows one at a time
What does this even mean? What are other options than showing "one text at a time" are there?
>>15029288
Like this.
>>15029295
There's still only one text displayed.
>>15029300
It's a big paragraph instead of a single sentence.
>>15029261
>puu dot sh/o6KTi/1f0a9df970.png this one is best. How the fuck you turn such simple and short phrase into picrelated monstrosity?
Overtranslating えーと.
>>15029301
On >>15029261 there two sentences at once.
>>15029301
Why would I want to read the tl;dr version instead of having ADV where I can see the characters change their expressions?
>>15029305
Two wimpy lines of dialogue. That isn't a fucking book. This is a fucking book.
>>15029313
It's called using your imagination instead of having every little thing spoonfed to you like the children that Chrono Clock is targeted at.
>>15029323
Just read a real book then.
>>15029325
A visual novel should be treated as a real book if not for the fact that most writers are incompetent. None of them attempt to emulate the good writers. Ittetsu, Higashide, Nasu.
>>15029330
It's called a VISUAL novel for a reason.
>>15029330
>Nasu
>good
:-)
He emulated Takahashi Tatsuya very well though, I give you that.
>>15029336
Why won't anybody translate Kizuato?
>>15029341
Cause EOPs don't care for it?
>>15029228
I don't think /jp/ goes off the deep end enough.
How long is Fata Morgana demo?
>>15029666
Assuming chapters are of roughly equal length, about a quarter the length of the game.
Reminder!
>>15029190
Better idea, say you're Propeller
If MG staff is here, you might want to lock the Shin Megami Tenshi comparison thread in the Tokyo Babel forum, it's starting to get ugly.
>>15030102
I did the others, but you will never make me read Umineko. I don't read all-ages shit. Ever.
>>15030222
Tensei.
>>15030304
Dammit, I always mistype that.
>>15030222
Not even MG staff cares about it.
>>15030252
Same here, all ages shit are a drag unless there's doujins on sadpanda, don't like to get teased.
>>15030222
>If MG staff is here, you might want to lock the Shin Megami Tenshi comparison thread in the Tokyo Babel forum, it's starting to get entertaining.
FTFY
>>15030403
They need to lock the new one the guy just created as well. Now the guy is really starting to seem like a troll. He just keeps saying "Shin Megami Tensei clone, dn't buy."
>>15030403
>The main male character of Tokyo Babel is a grown up version of the Main character from Persona 3 down to the hair color and hair style to his clothing style.
>And that's just where the similarities begin.
>I should have gone into copyright law so I could sue the thieving, unoriginal TB devs for plagarism.
>>15030683
Ironically, Tokyo Babel has pretty much nothing to do with SMT. Someone should put that rabid retard out of his misery already.
>>15030736
He's already banned.
>>15030665
>Shin Megami Tensei clone
That doesn't even sound like a bad thing.
>>15030755
He never even played Tokyo Babel, so him saying it's a clone isn't even accurate.
All this stupid VR shit cluttering up the store page and Sekai Project tries to sneak in a ten dollar "Nekopara theme song" after most of it's out so that people still remember they exist.
>>15030745
I still don't understand why MangaGamer doesn't post in these forums if they're around to ban people. Obviously not in threads like that, but they could at least answer questions and dismiss fears and such.
>>15030902
Based on his posts he's also barely played SMT despite claiming to be a "huge fan." False flagging, the most annoying form of trolling.
>>15030252
>>15030384
First off, Umineko isn't all ages, it's 17+. Second, if you don't read it you have no right to give your opinion on it, so kindly fuck right off.
Tokyo Babel isn't as bad as I thought it was going to be so far
>>15031258
Not sure what point is being made here, but Lewdgamer is pretty garbage, almost as bad as Siliconera. Nichegamer and Gematsu are the only good ones.
>>15031275
Why did you think it was going to be bad? It's Higashide. That's like going into a Scorsese movie expecting it to suck.
Fata Morgana is in both Japanese and English? Nice.
>>15031296
Looked like generic chuunige, the opening in general just seemed really lame with the shitty rock music.
I'm only a couple hours into it but it seems decent enough.
>>15031289
The point is that literally everything in the world exists solely as an attack on Dovac. Get into his mindspace.
>>15031342
I do think it's pretty dumb that he always talks vaguely about stuff like this without actually linking the article in question, because context would make him look like an asshole. Just so he can get some easy dick sucking from his twitter sycophants.
Is Dovac's avatar from Aokana? Told you the anime was good.
>>15031351
>looks like i was doxxed and harassed because people cant stand how great i am
>everyone look at how much i suffer because haters are trying to keep me down
>the internet's always harassing me like this because i'm so great
>oops, my number was just on a robocaller list
Why hasn't he abandoned Twitter again yet?
So, how hard did Tokyo Babel bomb?
It's a god damn shame most people are only willing to throw their money to moege and nukige.
>>15031382
Because he's too much of an attention whore and will always come back.
>>15031406
It's actually doing a lot better than expected for a $35 plotge. If this keeps up I imagine it will do well enough to justify Bullet Butlers.
If I were to give a reasonable estimate, I could see Tokyo Babel breaking 30,000 in the long run.
>>15031593
>If I were to give a reasonable estimate, I could see Tokyo Babel breaking 3000 in the long run.
FTFY
>>15031593
Is this the power of Steam?
>>15031593
Emphasis on long run. Babel seems like one of those slow sellers that will spread with word of mouth, rather than a super hyped thing that will go big on launch.
>>15031593
Maybe in 10 years after it's been sold for $5.
>>15031747
Well it'll probably be featured in many sales over the years and the production values are quite high so I wouldn't say it's an entirely unreasonable estimate.
>>15031226
Let me rephrase, I don't read shit without sexual content. Better?
Why is MangaGamer releasing Higurashi chapters 6 months apart?
How can they keep audience interest like this?
Why would anyone wait so long to play anything that is out there for free already?
I just know they are going to do the same thing with Umineko. I'm so god damn mad right now.
>>15030102
Yume Misu Kusuri is kind of irrelevant now, it was overhyped back in the day when there wasn't much translated content out there.
>>15031312
I think Raziel's route was the weakest. Sorami's and Lilith's were much more interesting to me.
>>15031540
I wonder about that, due to Steam possibly increasing its expected sales numbers and the voice cast likely being quite expensive. I really want Bullet Butlers and Evolimit.
>>15031872
That's how it often goes for VNs with heavily suggested or enforced reading order. You gotta keep raising the stakes.
>>15031817
It's like Undertale. Wasn't selling much at first but then people found out about it and "HOLY SHIT!" - Joseph Joestar
>>15031836
If by "better" you mean "makes you sound like a retard who should just be watching actual porn instead of looking for it in a fucking book." Sex obsession defeats the whole purpose of a visual NOVEL.
>>15031593
I doubt it sold 30,000 in Japan, let alone the west.
In fact I'm not sure any PC VN has been read by 30,000 in English. Tsukihime/FSN maybe, Umineko maybe but not Tokyo Babel.
>>15031872
I read Sorami first and was let down by Raziel's.
Lilith's route was pretty balls-to-the-wall awesome, mostly because it focused on best girl (Samael) arguably more than Lilith. Still wish thatwhen they fused, she'd be able to talk as a seperate personality in his head, but I guess that'd be too creepy. Still a great route, even if Metatron gets rekt without doing anything.
>>15031216
>>I still don't understand why MangaGamer doesn't post in these forums if they're around to ban people. Obviously not in threads like that, but they could at least answer questions and dismiss fears and such.
steamworks developer guidelines says that the developer isn't supposed to be there to answer all the discussions. Let the customers talk to each other and only step in for specific things
>>15031593
I doubt it'll break 2000 within a week or two. Doesn't seem to have much momentum.
>>15031312
Yeah it was pleasantly surprising for me too. >>15029023
>>15032136
http://steamspy.com/app/333600
There are most definitely a few that have broken 30k.
>>15032224
SP has Clannad at around 10k at $40 - $50 and Grisaia at around 18k at $20-$40
They probably have the highest selling full-price VNs.
>>15032182
Didn't know about that, so that partly forgives it. But they're not there AT ALL. I've seen plenty of devs be a lot more active and it's gone well for them, so I think MangaGamer could stand to do more.
>>15032254
MG occasionally replies. They just did to the topic asking about 18+.
>>15031406
It's currently the the number 1 seller on MG's site if you ignore the bundle games and steam probably gave it at least 1000 sales? So between 1,000 and 2,000 so better then Gahkthun but so far its their worst steam release to date.
>>15032254
The Ozmafia thread actually has a topic by MG staff while Tokyo Babel doesn't. The favoritsm is strong.
>>15031593
Page 25 of top sellers now, no new reviews since yesterday and still at 10, community page is dead too.
Doesn't look like it sold even 1000 and it not going to, unless MG puts it on huge discount.
>>15032282
There's just not much hype for the game in general. I think it's perceived as a generic chuuni VN so people aren't that interested.
On reddit the release announcement and other news didn't go above 50 upvotes while something like Nekopara vol 2 got 130. Other stuff like random news about Grisaia or Clannad would get 50+
>>15032278
You'd think someone would have done a Tokyo Babel FAQ too. It's almost like they want it to fail. Conjueror translated the damn game, where is he in all this?
>>15032332
Out shopping.
>>15032302
This is like the second chuuni game to ever even be translated. I don't understand the lack of interest, for once we finally get something different from the hordes of moege that are always translated (even OELVNs are moege), so how the heck is it perceived as generic? FSN is the only remotely comparable VN anyone would have seen, and it's not similar at all.
It's funny though, because Magical Eyes is doing way better and nobody's talking about that one here.
>>15032358
Huh, never heard of it.
I really doubt it's doing "way better" though.
>>15032369
It's, uh, in the OP image? How had you not heard of it?
>>15032384
Because as bad as the people here describe MG's marketing, whatever there was for Magical Eyes can only be described as "non-existent"
>>15032391
Well, its crowdfunding campaign did pretty well.
