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Wiki:
http://valkyriecrusade.wikia.com/wiki/Valkyrie_Crusade_Wiki

FAQ:
http://valkyriecrusade.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ

/jp/ comrades/alliance/AW killer/sender: (OUTDATED)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvW2LsNqEuR8dEFpVGRGVm1CWE5JUE1KNmcwX3dNekE&usp=sharing#gid=0

NEW Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JomMAOY6NESEP0erskmqV2k44T9lHryNHk-bakz0Bz4/edit?usp=sharing

Beginners guide (this is really outdated):
http://pastebin.com/jTwtjkKq

Advanced EH guide:
http://pastebin.com/UCtCq3Dx

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I medalled my full attack/defense Ribbon Girl in order to remake a new one with 16 card evolve.

I finally finished! Now to get her full attack/defense again.
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Has anyone gotten orbs in EH this event? I haven't seen any in my panels... is it because Houri is fixed?
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>>14978994
I got some yesterday. They just replaced the other upgrade stones like usual.
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>>14978994
Orbs are really rare in EH. I've gone through 30 keys and seen 1. If you want orbs I suggest Witch Gates.
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What's the best way to get LAW? I'm just running through 1-1, not doing any archwitches in hopes to get that bonus area.
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>>14979090
There's no real better way. Maybe join an alliance where everyone does this.
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>>14979090

Some days I spawn no LAWs. My alliance generates 20+ a day so those off-days don't matter so much (provided I'm paying attention - everyone swarms over LAW Oracle).

Like, there's times when I spam 1-1 and get no bonus spawn for several in a row...and when I finally get one it just gives me FAW and no LAW spawn. Once I spawned more LAW by killing AWs from 1-1 than from subsequent bonus areas. It's just RNG.
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>>14980273
I just hope i can get the law before the event rotates. Ive still got three more days but im getting desperate.
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>>14980319
The drop rate for this event is really good, as long as you can get ace you'll get her in no time.
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>>14981633
Feels really horrible to me.
I had to find more than 40 of her + even more alliance finds before one drops even with 60m+ dmg all the time.
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Houri a cute, A CUTE!
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>>14980319
Same here. I switched to the 15 vit area and have been getting some laws, but I solod around 30 already. I could have done more but was getting keys which I know realized I shouldn't have.
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>>14978994
None and did crazy amount of points in EH. Drop rate for orbs is bad this EH.
>>14981843
Well you have to go for volume. Drop rate is good this event.
>>14982174
15 vit area is BS dont do it, eats vit and give low ammount of LAWs. 1-1 walk with AW on hold + BAs are way better.

And i`m out of passion orbs gotta do WG next event like crazy.
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>>14982975
>None and did crazy amount of points in EH. Drop rate for orbs is bad this EH.
Same for me. I remember that last event (or the one before that?) had a pretty good amount of orbs, but this time.. no luck. Now I really hope next event's WG FAW will be good so I can grind that.
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>>14983433
Yeah one event could have 2 panels with orbs, juicy jackpots.

This one was good SR mine (MEDALLZ).
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I will have two HUR Pageant Alchemists by the end of the event (one of them amalgamated) and have enough material to amalgamate another one - do you think its worth it? I'm mainly asking because of how expensive the amalgamation (e.g. wasting slimes and not exchanging all the Houris for medals)
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>>14978994

I once had 2 orbs in the panels at once, but they really are rare.


>>14984648

How's your AUB team? Then again, proc chance is more important than how big the AoE nuke is. Not worth amalgamating another one.
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>>14984757
Yeah, I was mainly thinking of AUB. I have GUR Ammy and the rest are AOE GSR, but I'm guessing that I'd be better off trying to get 2 Drum Major + the two Alchemists I already have...
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>tfw 4chinz has a valkyrie crusade general
>tfw other mobage that started around VCs time are dead
>tfw when quit the game around DMTs death

Whats new? Is this game still worth playing? Is this still Akkeyjin Crusade?
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>>14986361
Its still Akkeyjin Crusade pretty much. On what's new I don't really know when DMTs death was, but LAW and EH are some changes that were made some time.
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>>14986402
He still doesn't draw hardcore?
>checked it on his pixiv and blog
Why is this general not in /vg/?
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>>14982975
Could you put those 4 GUR Oracles in one attack unit and post the stats?

Kind of curious what the attack bonus will be like
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>>14986503
You can calculate that by yourself. 100 + 50 + 50 + 50 = 250. On a maxed Gur, you will get 39999 * 2.5 = 99997 as a blue number (plus element and building bonuses)
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>>14978469
How do you guys get the card images without the rarity?
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>>14986560
Wiki has them
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>>14986560
I pulled that from the Wiki, but you can tap a card's artwork. I think it only works on cards that you own though.
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Is the best way to farm WG to just spam area 1-1 with an AW on hold?
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>>14978469
Man, this LAW has been troublesome to get another copy of, for me atleast. Sans the likability drop, I kept getting non-event SRs from her the whole time this event until she finally dropped yesterday night. Can finally rest easy~

Now I can focus on EH, I think I might be able to get into top 1000 with the 50+ keys I have left, maybe.
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>>14988116
Weird, this LAW is the first one I managed to get multiple copies of. I got only one GUR Cleopatra and no Hiraga at all (;_;) but 5 GUR Oracle.
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The lowest points I can get from beginner dungeon. This is against only 1 enemy and 1 enemy.

Total 600,000 points. Lowest.
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>>14991206
Comparable my fucking ass.

If I survive long enough not to get cleared or killed to do damage I don't even compare.

Conclusion. Do beginner dungeon to rank. Unless you NEED medals. If you need stones, do Witch Gates. You won't get orbs here.
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>>14991217
Light.

The problem is that waaaaaay too much can go wrong in advanced. Unless you have the unleashers and multiproc cards you need and nearly everyone doesn't have the unleashers and multiproc cards you need.

I say skip advanced and grind beginner.
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>>14991277
Oh, sorry, that is the BEST I got from light which is just comparable to my WORST on beginner passion.
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>me mine

Compare good teams. Not your trash teams.
Sorry but you speak in this "HURR DURR BEST POSIBLY" but its just your crapy teams bringing points down.

Also intermediate can yeild good 380-400k and still have decent drops.

HH teams can get 200-250k on advaced similar on intermediate with better drops since hp is lower and you get juicer overkill ratio.

Aka Tek sucks and just justifies idiocy of doing beginers.
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>>14991619
These ARE my good teams
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>>14991206
>>14991217
>>14991277
>everyone forgets about intermediate
I get 900k-1.2mil per round battle
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>>14991619
You're arguing against more than one person. The truth is that unless you have an unreasonable number of buffers, unleashers, and salvo cards doing anything but beginners is a joke.

>>14991979
Thanks, I'll look into that
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>>14991979
I think I'm going to have to wait until light day which will be next event to compare. I'm not pulling 900-1.2 million and even if I were it wouldn't be the same.

Beginner uses 2 BP and nets me 700-900k consistently. Intermediate uses 1.5 times that amount of BP. Advanced uses double that. Unless you can prove that you consistantly get 1.5 times that in intermediate and double those points for advanced it's the same exact number of shoes and half the swords and beginner wins again.

The only reason not to is if you want cards or if you have an ungodly number of Hiragas, the numbers don't seem to add up.
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>>14991706
THOSE TEAMS ARE SHIT especial when you take HR cards into advanced and complain about results.

Its like you on purpose make them shit to "prove" your point.

>>14991979
Not everyone. Not to mention Hiraga teams you can do 400-470 kills on intermediate easy. HH teams get solid overkills there too.

Next thing about intermediate you can use off element cards without worry as long as you max thier def. Elemental wave isnt that painfull and servant skills hit for less. Its quite forgiving compared to advanced.

>>14993178
acctualy this is the reason most of rankers stay away from beginers since its crap and only advisable when you have more shoes than swords (and that never happens)

no SR drops, no aweking materilas make you only weaker in long run

>>14992502
No its not joke, you can make two good overkill teams for intermeadiate and one tap/buff team to kill 0-2 add FAW that will pop. You will still get resonable amount of drops with 5 chests for round.

And i`m not arguing i`m just showing how bad for you is doing beginers.
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Beginner is still pretty good if you are a casual but still rank once in a while like me. It really saves a lot of time, and since I never bother maxing my cards (DEF or not) they are not tanky enough to make the most out of Intermediate. And the most it'd cost is a few shoes, which ends up restocked in the next event anyway.
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Next event is Super Mario...?
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Post your oldest card in your library right now.
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>>14999936
The one and only, my first UST roll ever. Although I thought it was Snow Mage at first, but then I remembered feeding her to another Snow Mage when making a 16-card evol.
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>>14999936
Griffin, duh...
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>>14999936
Back in my days where UR didn't exist
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>>14999936
Thought it was Fortuna but I forgot I kept Death who was the signup card the month I started playing. I should get a second copy of her to HR her.
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>>15000586
It was a better time.
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>>14999936
Tfw I'm still a noobie
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>>14999936
Most of my old cards are in my collection.
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>>14993655
>I'm everyone and therefore what works for me works for everyone
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Redeye is back. More unleashers for everyone!
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>Mediocre AW, FAW, and LAW

Time to catch a breather
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>>15002696
and she is still ussles till they relase dark buffer.. not even asking for dark dual buff

Overall carp event
LAW is crap (tho nice art)
FAW is good for people that missed dong
RR is insulting (art is OK)

Only nice change is two 15% arcanas for mid tho one less PS tix compared to old mid rank rewards but its a good trade imo.
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>>15002839
They can't just keep dumping good cards on us. I don't mind toning down the power level for an event or two.
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>>15002940
>350% self buffer for RR

this crap is insulting to anyone who ranks seriously
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>>15003059
Then don't rank if you don't like it. And I bet you there'd still be a number of people ranking this event simply because of the art, which is the game biggest selling point. Having a good effect would be a nice bonus but not really that important, it's not like people play this game because they enjoy gameplay anyway.
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>>15003094
Problem is this RR is outdone by FAW (genie) or older FAWs.

They at least could made her as good as FAW. Quite disappointing

Not to mention art on FAW this event is better than on RR.
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>>15003100
Does it matter really? Sarugami has a worse skill than Mildred and there are also a bunch of RRs with irrelevant skills like turnskip and 2-hit salvo.
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>>15003154
In long run yes.
This is F2P game that is quite generous to F2P players.

But look from other side what is the point of cashing out for this event ?
And you should know better that that F2P games die without enough cashiers.
Yes there are "colectors" that cash out every event but I bet mynet wont make much on this event.

So crap RRs like that both cost them cash and decrease player base. I dont want this game dying like AGG or other mobage.
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>>15003212
It really is unfortunate that due to the nature of these games, power creep has to be used in order to sell. Two years ago, hell maybe only one year ago and the RR we're complaining about now would have been game-shattering back then. We've gotten so used to these cards that we are actually complaining that it isn't as good or better than previous power-crept cards. Nubee had no choice but to back themselves into a corner and now Mynet bought this disaster. They can't fix this, either. Not without adjusting old cards and pissing off nearly everyone save for me and some kid who missed HUR Halloween Hades. UR was a mistake. They should have just added increased upgrade options for HSRs. They stopped giving a shit about R cards ages ago. I don't even remember the last time a new N card was released. FAW was released because as more people played and got better cards, reg AW was too easy. Then LAW came with UR in order to sell more shit. If there is any future in this game (I'm talking 2-3 years down the road) Valkyrie Crusade 2 needs to happen just to refresh the inevitable and unavoidable soon-to-be rampant power creep.
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>>14999936
Ratatoskr
http://valkyriecrusade.wikia.com/wiki/Ratatoskr
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>>15003432
Then again if they would relase RR as good as HH people would bite. Especialy if it wasnt passion.

They could keep up with RRs beeing equal to premium cards.
35% unleasher - not game breaking
300/'100 buffer - still 400/200 premiums are better (maxing taps in 2 buffs)

This event FAW has more desired skills, hell the hat amalga with 55% def/att and 20% rate is better than RR Sarugami with 50% deff/att debuff and 20% rate.

They are very inconsistent when it comes to RR/FAW/LAW balance.
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>>15003550
Oh, Ratatoskr was November login 2013. Guess it doesn't say that
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If I have celestial oracle and eternal fortuna already, should I go for deadeye this event?
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>>15003724
Yes. You will want lots of unleashers of any element.
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>>15003724
Allways you might be set for FAW/AW units but later on you want mono color LAW units and enough cards to make good intermediate/advanced EH teams.
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Is it worth maxing a Nina if I don't have HH/Hiraga/etc? I mean, I know she's not great but at least I can do one million additional overkill... what do you think?
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I'm getting some dumb error code 3 since the update which is really frustrating because it was working fine before.

Anybody else having issues?
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Do points after the last ranking update still count before the event ended? I was hanging around at rank 310 and got something like 40 mil points just from burning away my last couple of keys.

Also, another unleaser this event? Thats pretty cool.
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>>15004291
Not a good investment unless she's the only damage dealer you have and you absolutely need her to kill FAWs, otherwise just wait for better salvo cards.
>>15004646
I dunno, works fine for me.
>>15004698
>Do points after the last ranking update still count before the event ended?
It still does, ranking only stops updating after the event is over.
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>>14993655
Wait, your complaint is against Romance? Who would you suggest I replace her with? Any light card I can think of to add would just steal procs from Hyper Alchemist, at least Romance isn't a waste of space. I need another to dump Drum Major in team two, not less. Romance is awesome.
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I want to marry _____.
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>>15005285
Dark Succubus
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>>15005285
fuck off
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>>15003212
> I bet mynet wont make much on this event.

Perhaps not the event itself. But the gacha they put out? There will surely be whales gunning for Dark salvo.
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>>15006147
>Dark salvo with literally no buffers to compliment it.
Yea, no.
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>>15006181
Cashers probably have enough dark buffers. There's enough premium ones.
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>>15006192
But a lot more would cash out for a salvo of any other color, since they already have buffers/unleashers to compliment it. Dark is again, the worst color they could have released.
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>>15006147
To make good dark salvo team you need 2 GURs at least they made better killing with HH clones.

Still every sane person farmed few hiragas.
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Is there a way to reset one's account? I deleted it off my phone months ago, downloaded it again on a whim and was faced with my ugly village and shitty cards & misspent gems

I just want a fresh start and a reroll.
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>>15017244
You need to transfer that account to a different device, or to Bluestack if you don't have one, after that your current device will automatically reset to a new one.
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>>15018147
good workaround, thanks!
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If anyone's on can I get a re-add to the alliance.

First day back and 60 bux later I got a HSR, trash UR, & a SR NS.

Homeleas and on the beNNIES AND LIKE FUGGINNNN W E W L A D S
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>>15018897
Forgot to add but handle is moonstone

Ill have to add my info to the doc when my phone's inets are functioning properly. Regardless take it easy and such
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>area 1-1 needs over 30 vit now
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>>15019430
>handle
You need to post your ID, there's probably 100s of people named "moonstone"
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>>15020409
Stay strong anon.
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How far can I p2w in this game? I'm salty over failing awakening over and over, is there anything I can do with jewels for a better chance at it?
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>>15021264
1. Buy shoes and swords to farm WG/Keys for awakening mats
2. Do Stepup-Summon for +15% awakening arcanas (or use the new mid rewards)
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>>15021264
Save 3000-4000 jewels buy rods for UAB.

Sometimes RR is worth the effort like http://valkyriecrusade.wikia.com/wiki/Chione
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>>15021275
nevermind you mean +15% arcanas

some time ago there was pack 1 PS tix +50 att/def arcanas and +15% arcana for 300 gems limit 10 per acc

Other than that sometimes you can trade maiden tickets for orbs.
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So what does Mynet have in store for us besides cutting back on what Nubee was already giving us?
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>>15021352
>15% and single element
Santa Perchta had 25% and was available to T2000. The last equivalent/comparable UAB RR was Little Grey in September.
http://valkyriecrusade.wikia.com/wiki/Little_Grey

Aside from artwork, the majority of UAB RR are underwhelming.
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>>15024009
>not this shitu again

You dont care about natural proc when you run with unleashers and 250% DUAL buffer will max your damage in 3 buffs and def.

Prechta is nice but you cant compare only ATT buffer with dual buffer.
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>>15020409
So which area costs less vit in total now, 1-1 or 1-2?
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Has anyone tried using debuff in EH? Does it affect the elemental wave?
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>>15024915
This event there is no 1-4 so they made all areas bit bigger.
Still 1-1 is best for WG/BA farm.
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Whats the best way to get free valkyrie shoes light? Swords are dropping a lot but I'm always short of shoes.
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>>15025742
EH and limited enemy.

Shoes don't drop as witch rewards.
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>>15025760
>EH
Shoes in EH? Really? I guess I must be unlucky then because I've never even seen them in EH.
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>>15024942
Yes and yes. She will likely clear herself though. Don't know if you think it's worth it or not.
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>>15025774
Yeah, they rarely appear though. Same goes for swords in EH.
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>>15024617
>omitting over half of the argument
You can max out your atk with three 200% buffs. And availability to 2000 players is a lot more than 500.
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>>15026218
Dual buff >>> attack buff
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>>15026484
>Elemental Queen
>Huang Long
wat?
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>>15026495
You need 4 buffs from EQ or HL to max out tap damage with maxed out gurs and GUR unit bonus. Unless you run upgrade pots.

This is most important in LAW team while you run 2 null 1 buff 2 unleash against cancel LAW or 1 buff 1 debuff 3 unleash against self buff law. 3 vs 4 proc on buffer makes hella lot diffrence RNG wise.

Since I switched EQ for Chione it become less of "fuck just one more buff" fights against LAW.

>>15026218
What argument you not beeing able to see diffrence between dual buffer and att buffer ?

>250% def buff is alot more than 0% deff buff durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

3k gems is nothing when you look at sumon prices (box/step up) to get two copies of UR to make GUR. Even with special summon you want to spend at least 12k to get nice shot on two UR copies.

>>15025777
Current LAW only clear your buffs/debuffs if you debuff her she will stay debuffer. Will check when EH is up if they clear debuffs and if debuffing works against elemental wave.
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>>15026571
>Since I switched EQ for Chione it become less of "fuck just one more buff" fights against LAW.
I agree that 200 vs 250 makes quite the difference, however let me mention that using Celestial Oracle makes 3 200% buffs sufficient to hit max damage (with max atk at least).

Obviously not everyone has CO but same goes for various buffers.
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>>15026595
Then you are giving up on elemental bonus.

I do run two cel oracles in FAW team but for LAWK both Chione and Azoth take spot in pure cool/light teams.

Especially when you get elemental area bonus fitting your element and even better when LAW is weak to that element. Azoth team hits for 4,5-4,9m on burst. While non element cards will hit for 3m tops.

When fighting non cancel LAW its not big diffrence but againts this cancel/crit monster you want to dish out as much damage as posible.

But the main point is that some UAB RRs are worth those 3k gems in rod when compared to prices of box/step up (which guarantee you UR drop). With rest (special, 6 card flip) you are praying to RNG.

ROD SUMMON BEST SUMMON.
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>>15026609

>But the main point is that some UAB RRs are worth those 3k gems in rod when compared to prices of box/step up (which guarantee you UR drop).
Yes obviously AUB is better than summoning directly. In fact I agree with most points, I was just adding that 200% dual buffers (which are free, thus even cheaper than AUB RR) are a lot easier to use now that an Unleasher with +100% atk is available, that is all.

Of course missing out extra burst damage is a pity, but then again you're hitting max damage more reliably so I'd argue that it's not a big loss, as well as the elemental unit bonus.
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>>15026571
I only need 3 buffs from EQ/HL to max damage. Do you not have max elemental buildings? And if you don't, you have two Celestial Oracles.

>What argument you not beeing able to see diffrence between dual buffer and att buffer ?
TIL EQ/HL don't give def.

I digress, enjoy grinding AUB at shit hours.
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>>15026744
>reading comperhension fail
first you mentioned santa prechta then backpedaled when proved that chinoe is dual buffer.

Now you get asspained about "shity UAB hours" we get it you DONT like UAB. But that wont change fact that if you have some stack of free gems (after upgrades) UAB is best way to get decent cards.

So I see two options you are clueless idiot or on purpose you discourage people form doing UAB.

>>15026690
Well not everyone has celestial oracles or rather awakened celestial oracles. I have mine and they work good for FAW but since I have 250 and 300 buffers dont need them for LAW.

>Of course missing out extra burst damage is a pity, but then again you're hitting max damage more reliably so I'd argue that it's not a big loss, as well as the elemental unit bonus.

Well with 250/250% buffer you dont need Oracles. Hell 300/100 (azoth) against will get max taps with 2 buffs if with elemental bonus or against dark enemy.
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In case I haven't been kicked out already, feel free to remove 'Itasta' from 1.1
tl;dr story is I don't have internet access (typing from a uni comp)
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>>15027731
>comperhension
>prechta
200% buff only takes three procs. You stated that 250% takes three procs. That's the same number. Talk about reading comprehension. Try again.

>first you mentioned santa prechta then backpedaled
Since you seem to not care about proc percentage and cared so much about dual buffer, I gave you some examples of non AUB duel buffers.

>So I see two options you are clueless idiot or on purpose you discourage people form doing UAB.
Try again.

P.S. Why do you insist on calling it UAB?
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>>15028150
It takes 3 proc*

*if you have two awakened celestial oracles

God I havent seen such angry idiot in long time. First you get offended by someone posting good card then start yaping about attack only buffer then you backpedal to dual buffer then you are like DURR BUT IF YOU HAVE THOSE TWO OTHER CARDS IT WILL WORK.

Kindly take your retardation somewhere else.
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What are the WG drop rates for Redeye and Tomato Juice, does anyone know? I've been trying to do as many WG as possible but I get the useless non-amalgamation card all the time while I can't get the rest.
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>>15029528
Pretty sure it only takes 3x200% buffs to reach 999999 damage per tap on a maxed out GUR. 250% buffs are only better if it's on HH/Gilgamesh or if your cards aren't maxed out yet.
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>>15029736
And that's without Celestial Oracles passive buff btw.
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>>15029736
Nope png you need celastial to get 999 taps.

Even with full GUR unit bonus and element refresh II bonus. You will be close to 900ish in damage but you get to max damage on awoken burst.

Tested allready that was main problem with LAW teams around 200/200% buffer need 4 procs to dish out damage. Celestia fixes that (tho you lose elemental bonus on burst) or simply using 250% or better buffers.
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200% buff -
3 procs close to 999 taps
4 proc guaranted 999k taps and maxed out damage on maxed HH/Gil skills and maxed damage on awoken burst
with two cel oracles you hit 999k damage on 2 buffs and max out HH/Gil/Burst damage on 3 buffs

250% buff
3 buffs to both max tap damage gil/hh/awoken burst damage
adding celestial oracle makes you do max tap damage in 2 buffs
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>>15029765
Go get your damage checked, I tested 3 times, all on maxed non-Light GURs and they all hit for 999999 damage per tap with 3x200% buffs with no passive buff on LAW, the only time their damage slightly dipped is when they are at red HP which doesn't really matter.
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>>15029796
>250% > 200%
wow

>>15029833
No, I've been running teams with HL for quite some time and I'm always a bit short of hitting 999999 with 3 buffs - I guess the elemental buildings/unit bonuses can make up for that but generally it's not _necessarily_ true that 3x200% is sufficient.
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>>15029833
GUR unit bonus helps but if you put HUR or dont have full element you wont hit max allways. Also you need 4x200% to hit max on HH/awoken burst damage. AND THAT IS BIG PAIN vs faw/law.

>3 times
cute


Still we have this whole disscusion since someone got triggered by 250% dual buffer.

Running two 250% and cels for FAW makes absurdly fast kills often killing around 7-8 turn on max HH overkill. Max tap damage in 2 buffs. Also so easy to rebuff when canceled.
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>>15029891
Stop moving your goalpost, you said something incorrect and I corrected it.
>3 times
>cute
How about you actually go check your shit first before spouting nonsense.
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>>15029900
Its like 3 buffs (if you have GUR unit bomus, maxed card, elemental buidling maxed and against weak element) mr fine print.

Then again as far as I see you only proved that 200% buff with two passive +100% is as good as 250%. And by some flawed logic that makes 250% buff bad.

You dont ALLWAYS hit 999 with 200% buffer.

Not to mention you dont hit max burst damage on 3 200% buffs too, or damage from multi hit.

Yes 200% are "OK" but you triggered hard when someone showed 250% buffer and dared to call it good.
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>>15029915
Go read your post first, in >>15029528 you said
>It takes 3 proc*
>*if you have two awakened celestial oracles
which is untrue because you can hit max damage with only 3x200% buffs even without Celestial Oracles as I already proved. The guy was correct and you was wrong, that's that. And stop typing like a retard.
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>>15029921
see
>>15029841
mr fine print
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>>15029934
Yeah, yeah keep moving that goalpost. You said it's impossible to reach the threshold without the passive buffs and I proved that it's possible. Stop throwing in excuses and technicality. And
>>15029841
only makes you look like an ignorant retard that makes false claims even before checking his shit. .
And how long have you been this game now? With all that talk of maxed GURs teams and AUB RRs and you still haven't gotten your elemental buildings maxed? I find that hard to believe.
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>>15029962
>only makes you look like an ignorant retard that makes false claims even before checking his shit. .
>And how long have you been this game now? With all that talk of maxed GURs teams and AUB RRs and you still haven't gotten your elemental buildings maxed? I find that hard to believe.
1. I'm not that other anon who can't type
2. I started playing 3 or 4 months ago and I'M still busy with upgrading my resource buildings so ofc I don't have the elemental buildings yet
3. I run a maxed HL + Chocolate Candy against FAW because 3 buffs from HL get me like 900k-950k instead of 999k, while 2 buffs from HL + at least 1 from Candy gives me 999. (I also don't have the fully awakened team bonus because I use an UR Jean, which might explain this)

I'm not disagreeing with you, 200% buff is usually sufficient for most uses since Oracle/the buildings/unit bonuses exist, but I just wanted to throw in that you DO have to make use of these if you really want to hit max. Now stop insulting me.
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>>15029978
Christ, I don't even know who I'm talking to anymore, since he quoted your post as his point I assumed it was his post as well. And yeah full GUR/GSR team gives you a 50% bonus which is huge, although you don't really need to care too much about hitting max damage, close to it is good enough. Just take your time, build your harem and enjoy the game.
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>>15029718
I personally am swimming in tomato juice and got 1 redeye.
I haven't dropped the other sr once
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>>15029962
>missed the point

you claimed that 3x200% is enough, people pointed out that its not allways and you need certain conditions (maxed buildings, GUR bonus and so on).

What point of 3x200% NOT ALLWAYS beeing enough you dont get ?

That`s why other people said you need 4 buffs/celestia or other stuff.

Last but not lest for max burst and hh/gil damage you need 4x200% too.

Not everyone has maxed buildings, maxed gurs and so on and you talk in absolutes thinking everyone is like you. Hell you even started raging at some newbie. Way to go there chump.
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>>15029528
>>15030500
>Kindly take your retardation somewhere else.
It only takes three procs. If you are a cash player and don't have maxed elemental buildings, you are wrong.

Max Atk, Elemental Building, GUR Bonus, and Element Bonus give you max dmg at three 200% buffs. All end game players have this.

If you using HH/Gil you should have at least one Celestial Oracle. If you are grinding EH, you should be using salvo cards.

Are you mentally handicap?
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>>15030718
>I HAVE THIS SO EVERYONE IN GAME HAVE TO HAS THIS SO ITS ALWAYS 3 PROC NOW LETS INSULT SOME NEWBIE IF HE CANT GET TO 3 PROC WITH HIS NON GUR TEAM I FELL SO GUD NOW
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Why did these threads stop being comfy?
It was so comfy here when I started playing, people were just chilling and having civilized discussions. Now it's a rage fest between elitists and noobs. Can you fags go to /v/ or something please?
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>>15031276
This desu senpai
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>>15031276
Upvoted
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>>15031004
You clearly have issues. Last time I checked, newbies were not "end game players".

>>15031276
What elitists? It's one shitter who's upset about how others play the game.
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>>15030500
I just said it can be enough, not that it's always the case. You didn't provide any circumstances and just flat out said that it's never possible without even checking to back your claim, and then acted all condescending when the proof was presented.
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So much rage over waifus.
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>>15030003
>harem

Absolutly disgusting, senpai
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Two minor nitpicks
1. Why is there no countdown to the first AUB battle? Everyone seems to always miss the first fight.

2. Why can't they fix the default twitter messages. They're always too long to be sent. I wish that I could just push the send button without having to modify anything.
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>>15033503
For #2 have you sent an inquiry to mynet? They're probably unaware of the twitter message length.
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>>15033503
Agreed. Further nitpicks:

- Please let us buy arcana in large quantities.
- Why can we only see 100 oldest/newest present, it's so annoying.
- Make WG great again! Right now they sort of suck; either increase the orb and UR/SR drop rate or give us the brittle keys back or at least make it 3 rewards again, but right now WG is really shit.
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Is there a way to get UAB Girls after the UAB ends?
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>>15034859
I think no, at least not so far.

Maybe there will be some mechanism like WG where past AUB cards can be obtained but I really dont think so.
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>>15034870
>>15034859
This has been on my mind too, there are way too many past event cards with beautiful arts that are unobtainable (mainly the RRs). Maybe they should add something like in LLSIF that allow you to summon past event cards but at a lower chance.
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>>15034887
That kills idea of ranking.
REWARDS for 300/500 rankers, many people rank just for collection/rarity of those cards since often RRs have meh skills.
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>>15035521
Not really LLSIF do that and they are still doing fine, people will still grind to rank for their favorite since it's guaranteed. And like I said, the chance for old cards would need to be much lower than the low ones. But I digress, it's just an idea I thought of to bring back old cards without putting them in the RR twice but still make them rare enough that not everyone can have them.
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I pray they don't do this elongated zone thing again. It's hell trying to get those bonus zones.
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>>15044077
Same. It's a pain to finish them as well.

And more steps in BA = not more keys/LAW either, for me. Did anyone else experience the same? E.g. getting a BA in 1-1 gets you just as much bonus stuff as in 5-4, just that it takes 30 instead of 300 vit for pretty much the same, just more BS steps and maybe more FAW and limited enemy (who only drops shit).
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ded thred
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>>15051010
this event isnt really too captivating.. I'd say many people are just waiting for the next one.
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Hey, I met a /jp/ alliance!
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>>15055165
Grats on the first place, our alliance is pretty dead this event (I myself am not playing much either) so that's one less team if you need to beat if you meet us.
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Why yes, hello.

Keine here again. Haven't played for almost a year, had the urge to come back though, re-applied to the alliance.
Thanks for letting me in again.
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>>15061343
Welcome back I guess, although the game feels pretty dead now that there hasn't been a major update since forever.
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So... mynet is trying to kill vitality.
Not only do the maps take more vit now, but now we can't spend maiden tickets on shoes anymore, only on sets of shoes/swords...
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>>15061865
The new spreadsheet proves how dead VC is on /jp/ right now
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>>15062742
I don't think anyone even uses the spreadsheet desu
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This event sucks
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>taking shoes and swords off the maiden ticket exchange

I'm fucking dying over here. Mynet is not only cutting costs (limiting dialog on event campaign) but now they are eliminating ways to get crucial items to play this game without paying. I miss Nubee.
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>>15063165
You have to play a fuckton to not get way more shoes and swords than you will ever need. I could rank the next 20 events in a row and not be anywhere close to depleting my reserves of swords and shoes. If you play that much, you really shouldn't be complaining about having to chip in a few dollars here and there. Stop being a leech, it's people like you who are ruining videogames.
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>>15063165
They're adding campaign sets (three shoes and two swords) in exchange for removing those. If they're priced at a reasonable amount I see no reason to complain
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>>15063255
I sort of agree, but then again I never really need swords since they drop from AW, while I'm always a bit hesitant to spend my shoes since they're harder to obtain, so I'd prefer to spend all my tickets on shoes.

The only thing that I find weird is that they are actually taking away the option to buy shoes and swords - why not just add the campaign set and leave shoe/sword there? And why don't they announce the price? That's what I find a bit shady so I just spent all my tickets on shoes..
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>>15063274
inb4 120 maidens for campaing set aka double the price
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Did they change the reset time for the twitter vit/bp? I think it should be right now but it's not showing up (but the free fsp summon does).
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Is anyone else only getting special areas on areas with conversations? Since they limited conversation areas that means a higher chance to get area 1-1 since it's now like, 1 in 8 instead of 1 in like 20 which is balls. 1-1 sucks if you end up with it as a special area.

I'm not a statistician but I feel like we just got fucked.
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>>15068505
>1-1 sucks if you end up with it as a special area.
Does it? I didn't keep track of my encounters and all but I didn't feel like 1-1 was worse in any way - if any, better. I get a similar amount of useful stuff (LAW and keys), maybe *slightly* less but for a much cheaper vit.

But I think I've had BA in other parts of the map too.
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>>15068505
I got 1-1 BA with 3-4 LAWs and 5-1 with 0 LAWs.
Its just RNG. I dont see anything bad in geting BA in 1-1, can be as bad as 5-3 with spawn rate.
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Tfw next event is school battle harem
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>>15068524
>>15068669
You get far less encounters because you only have 12 moves before the stage is cleared.

When you have limited time it makes all the difference. If you have unlimited time but less shoes who cares? When you're on a schedule you're fucked.
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>>15071987
1-1 is now longer than 12 steps. They made ALL areas longer now.

Learn to count.
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>>15071987
It doesn't matter if you still find the same amount of good stuff. I think I've never gotten more than 4 LAW from a BA, no matter if it was 1-1 or 5-x.
As I said before, even if you find slightly less in 1-1 (which I don't think) it's still good because of how cheap it is.
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I, for one, am happy this event is over soon and I'm optimistic about the next one.
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Hoping for cool or dark FAW next event, I need every passion orb for Oracle since I keep failing to awaken them.
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This event was shit
Next event is probably going to be shit aswell

On a side note, when will the 4-star evolution trend come to a end?
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RR is only good card
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>>15063165

I still don't understand why they did this...
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>>15074547
And she is amazing. Passion azoth, rankings will break again.
>>15074579
At least its fair price (12x5) still happy that I bough shoes only for my 1000MT.
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Campaign set only 60 tickets
Slime Queen worth 4 ultimate summons
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Who's the loli-est card?
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>>15074784
Tie between junior director and loli alchemist
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Is it still Rusalka? She's been around a long long time. I don't know if they've ever out loli'd her
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Did the new event start today? I havn't logged in for a while and just noticed there was a new event.
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>>15078417
Um, wednesday night I think
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Yay, already got my two SR Archwitch cards together.

150% ATK bonus on start up is good right?

My current team set up is shit anyway.
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>>15083970
It's pretty good.
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>>15083970

Got her too, even faster than I got Ursula last event.

Now if only I can get a UR.

Best chance would be the PVP? Or Witch Gates?
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>>15084191
Yeah, I gave up on the FAW for this.

I can't beat her alone and often when I request help from friends or the alliance it's an unanswered call for help.
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>>15084380
Post your ID, I'm on regularly so I should be able to satisfy your FAW killing needs
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>>15084516
9t3wy
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>>15085575

Added you, mine is aewuq. I cant' really defeat a FAW on my own but I can help at least.

On another note does Ghost's defense debuff stack?
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> 21 days on the catalog
> Is barely halfway to the bump limit


Is this the slowest general on /jp/?
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>>15086505
I'm pretty sure it's the slowest general on 4chan. The game has been dying for a while and most of the people who are in the /jp/ alliances don't post/follow the thread. Believe it or not there is actually 2 alliances with a max of 20 people in each from here.

The second thing is that there isn't really much to talk about in the current metagame, it's slow and solo focused. There is barely any point to comrades and alliances at this point. This also kills the game for newbies as you can see on the previous posts.
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>>15085575
Added as well, that's a cute keine
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>>15086505
Last event was crap.
This event has only good RR.
Current LAW is shit tier too.

Thread is more active when there is good event.
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>>15086553
Isn't there something else one could play?

I'm not huge into these mobile collecting games, so I don't really know any others.
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>>15088075
Is RR really the only good card? Zero seems pretty amazing, at least for AUB and advanced EH
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Oh, also.

I just switched from my phone to bluestacks, how do I do a data transfer?
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>>15088153
Nevermind, fuck my face for being stupid.
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>>15088140
Shes barley OK and that skill was relased few times allready.
>>15088128
Dont listen to that whiner, game is having stable population. Like every topic he goes WE ARE DOOMED.

Just invite people from T100 and you get killers. And get good alliance.
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Damn, I want her so bad.

But I'll never get her ;~;
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>>15088166
>Don't worry the game isn't dying at all.

>Just add people in top 100 to get active comrades.

Sure, the multiplayer aspect isn't dying at all. It's also not like it's getting gradually easier to rank in top 1000 with every event. Also:

>Implying it's just 1 guy complaining that the game is dying.

When I started 1½ year ago, this thread was very active compared to now, people would kill every single FAW I sent. The people I added from the spreadsheet were still playing. Look at the spreadsheet now, we have like 6 active players in the thread. Newbies don't really have much of a chance any more here.
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>>15088496
>4 chan beeing dead

dude pls I`m talking about game, JP alliances are also dead in game and not like they had ever any serious rankes.

As for my ally we recruit newbies time to time and when I look at rotation in my friendlits is the same as year ago.

Use spreatsheet from WIKI and then you will see actives, 4 chan and JP is generaly dead.
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>>15088565
Everyone knows that /jp/ is a pretty slow board, that shouldn't surprise anyone, this thread is really slow even for a /jp/ thread though.

>dude pls I`m talking about game
Yea, so was I. The fact that you have to add people in top 100 to get active killers generally means the game is dead.

>when I look at rotation in my friendlits is the same as year ago
Isn't that just testament to the fact that the game is dead? The fact that you don't have any new players at all in your comrades just means that the old guys don't quit, pretty much all the newbies we get in the /jp/ alliances quit within a couple of months. People just don't stick. On top of that old players are gradually leaving, I've seen a lot of lvl 150+ players on my comrade list go inactive.

>Use spreatsheet from WIKI
Yea, I'm sure you have almost 100 active players on that spreadsheet. The game isn't dying at all.
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>>15088704
>Isn't that just testament to the fact that the game is dead? The fact that you don't have any new players at all in your comrades just means that the old guys don't quit, pretty much all the newbies we get in the /jp/ alliances quit within a couple of months. People just don't stick. On top of that old players are gradually leaving, I've seen a lot of lvl 150+ players on my comrade list go inactiv

You have some serious problems with reading. You missed the rotation bit, people quit and get replaced by new players.

Seems you are TRYING to make it look like game is dying.

Obviously why care that now newbies can get into FAWK extremly fast (handing out UR buffers like crazy with other decent UR cards) and the sender/killer aspect isnt that important now.

Adding people form top 100 is easiest way to get killers IF you need them. Wiki spreadsheet is active too.

> pretty much all the newbies we get in the /jp/ alliances quit within a couple of months.

Might have something to do with jp beeing full of autistic fucks giving bad advice to newbies. And general JP alliance sucking balls.

Newbies in my alliance even try to rank after few events and succed at it.
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>>15088803
>It seems like you are trying to argue for your case.
Ehm, yes? Is this surprising to you?

>Might have something to do with jp beeing full of autistic fucks
Why are you here then? Fuck off faggot.
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>>15089126
jp alliance my dear friend having problems with reading comprehension

that`s why you are losing newbies if they are faced with "great" advices
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>Error Code 7

Yeah, thanks apparently my 50k connection is too slow for this high speed internet game.
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>>15090054
So it's not just me. I was beginning to worry. Is anybody else having trouble connecting due to error code 7?
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>>15090147
wiki is full of Err7 complaints
cant get in too
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>>15090277
The game is so dead, the shut down the servers.
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It's fine for me, but I never logged out. I don't really dare to relog now though.
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That yells free jewels and / or items.
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>>15090054
>>15090147

Same here. Vit recharging was about to finish too.
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>300 Jewels for 6 and a half hours of downtime

It's better than nothing I guess.
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O-Oh my.

Got this after beating up Subleader One.
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I just started playing 2 months ago and remembered jaypee has a thread for VC. I'm really digging the game and I'm kicking myself for not playing sooner.

Question for those experienced with the switchbox summons: I did the full 11 summon once and got Caligostro. Is it worth it to reset the box and do another 11 summon? Would I be guaranteed to get Caligostro or is the risk not worth the $$$? She's great against the current AWs as-is, but when it comes to cards I like really want to evolve them for the sake of completion.
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>>15093802
You are very lucky to get UR from box in 1st pull.

Often it takes 4+ pulls to get UR. Now question how much you can spend, she is strong card and will serve you for long..
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How much of a scam is the flip summon?
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>>15097272
Thanks. I didn't realize it was that difficult to pull a UR. In that case I'll save my money. Even without evolving she's almost as good (if not better) and GSR Griffin - I see now why URs are so desirable, they really are a leg up on all other cards.

I actually got my second and third UR (Super Iroha and Leader Zero) last night from a WG, along with two SRs.

The topic of UR advantages brings up another question: I have an HSR Ursula and HSR Nadia - should I bother turning them into Mildred? Are the benefits of having Mildred alone really better than those two cards?
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>>15097860
>I actually got my second and third UR (Super Iroha and Leader Zero) last night from a WG, along with two SRs.
Lucky you!

If you are using Ursula and Nadia right now and don't have anything better then I'd keep them separate for now. You can always amalgamate them later. Especially if you don't have other buffers - Ursula is sort of pathetic but still better than no buffer at all.
Mildred is a decent debuffer but I don't know if she's going to be useful for you right now. Debuffers are mostly good against LAW without field, but if you're still new they might also help against AW/FAW, but I haven't tested it.
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>>15097860
If you got the funds you should probably go for it (after a reset)
One Caligostro means you're halfway done

She's an amazing buffer but you'll only go so far with a UR for lack or survivability
Chances are you'll end up shelving her when facing harder battles because she'll fall in a few hits, which would be regrettable considering how powerful her buff is.

But try your luck ONLY if you got the funds.
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>>15097880
I actually got a few more SR time-stops that I haven't leveled up yet, so once those are maxed I might just do it, but I won't rush. At the moment it's really Nadia that's proving useful, and making me hesitate to get Mildred.

>>15097900
I could definitely spare $30 or $60 but I don't know if I'm down to blow $120+ if she doesn't appear after the first two summons. I'd rather spend $30 to get some more shoes and swords at that risk. I've got a lot of preorders shipping in the next 3 months.
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>>15093802
You will probably already quit in a month or two
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>>15098073
I hope so. I spend too much time playing this silly game.
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>>15097942
Thing is she is 500/50 buffer very strong card in long run and that buff is non element specific so she will work in any team.

It would be worth to get her HUR/GUR since she will serve you for whole game.
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Is there somewhere an overview of how much vit all the areas consume?
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really late on this but has VC changed ever since it was bought by Mynet? wondering if it's worth it to get back into. This mobage has the best card art I've seen so far.
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>>15103383
It's changed for the worst, in my opinion. There's a trend going on where you get one AW normally and get the other (4 evo) from EH panels which is pretty bothersome for a lot of people and honestly just lazy on their part.
Also events since Mynet took over have been pretty crap. Celestial Jubilee III was nice, but that's about it (They haven't been in charge long though, still an early opinion). This event, as well as the past one, only have three stages per area (1-3, 2-3, 3-3 and so on are the castles) which makes getting bonus areas a huge bother.
I'd say get back if you have your old account to have something to start with, but Mynet's changes so far tend to give new players a rougher time than before.
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>>15104813
i know my level is like over 100 at least. I have no Urs tho,
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>>15104813
I just started a few months ago and have never completed an EH. Or maybe I did once, I can't remember. Anyway, it seems like a serious pain in the ass that takes more time than it's worth so I've just been doing WGs and BAs and ignoring EH. I have a million brittle keys.

I dunno in a few weeks I'll be done taking a course I've been enrolled in so I might have time after that.
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>>15104987
>I have a million brittle keys.
No you don't, they disappear after each event. That's why they aren't sturdy keys.

EH is by far the most worthwhile thing to do, but it requires a lot more cards than just killing AW/FAW. The rewards are pretty bad in beginner, but if you can do intermediate or advanced the rewards are far better than anything else you can get.
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>>15104987
>have never completed an EH
Even if you can't do int/adv like the guy above suggested, having two good teams that you can rely on for 999999+ damage can give you a lot of points per round (150k-200k on fights with 5 enemies) even on beginner.
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>>15105383
>No you don't, they disappear after each event.
Oh shit. You learn something new every day huh.

>>15106314
I don't want this to come off as rude - this is a genuine question from a new player. Is it OK if I don't care about points? I understand alliance battles and stuff are a big facet of the game, but at this time I have so few URs that I am just enjoying collecting new cards, trying to get duplicates to evolve them, and trying to get items to awaken (I only have 1 awakened card ATM). I participate in the alliance battles whenever I'm logged on and it's accessible, but once I run out of battle points I stop and go back to LAW/AW farming for the event or leveling. I understand I'm not enjoying the game to fullest capacity quite yet, but am I missing out on an opportunity to vastly improve my units by not going all-out for points/ranking?

I really jumped into this game without knowing much. It was only after a short while that it started to look familiar and I realized that the reason it looked so familiar was because I had seen people discussing it on /jp/ and elsewhere.
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>>15106469
keep with it if it´s fun ranking especially in your situation without proper teams/funds is just an annoying pain without a proper reward that is worth the effort
only rank if the girl in the rr really deserves it
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>>15106469
A lot of people don't care much about ranking. Personally I've only ever finished an event in top 300 once at level 170. I also don't really participate in AUB since the times are pretty bad for me.

Just do whatever you want in the game and don't listen to the people in this thread that have the idea that everyone wants to rank.
You should try it out at some point though, some people find it fun and do it almost every event.
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>fixes -12 vit in elemental hall to -8 after running 3 keys worth.
Mildly disappointed.
Anybody remember if it was -7 or -8 last event?
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>>15109748
It was -7.

So I think 8 is relatively fair since EH gives more orbs now. The orb-stone imbalance was quite ridiculous.
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>>15109855
The LE droping 100% orbs is nice.
Got 4 in like 9 keys , not bad at all.

Also they are chaning alliance battle, hope they will end this timezone crap biased towards assian players.
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>>15110232
Well, it's a Jap game, can't really complain about them using their own timezone.

The orb droprate increase was much needed, WG is too unreliable to farm for orbs.
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>>15110273
Now with orbs available so much in EH I sort of feel bad for WG since it was the only reason to go there, card drop rate is way too bad in WG.
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>>15110288
WG is better if you want the UR drops I find. I havn't been able to get any of the UR previous cards in EH.
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>>15110273
Old alliance battle wasnt timezone based. And it was way better than current format.
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>>15110337
I didn't get URs in EH but I didn't get any in WG either... but EH was so much better for the material cards, but maybe thats just my luck.
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>>15111109
I got one UR drop in one of my first WGs (not counting the event FA). Haven't seen another since. Got plenty of SRs though.
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>>15109748
-8
>>15088475
Ganbatte anon, never give up
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3rd try not bad
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>>15125669
Gj
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Anybody else getting error code 7 today?
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When?
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>Tfw still have to awaken my Hiraga
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>next LAW called Schwartz
will be funny if her element isnt dark
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I hate that there are two types of skill nullification skills. Those which block everything and those which block only attack skills.
I woke White Cloth only then to realize her second skill doesn't counter debuffs. What a waste.
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>Error code 7
>Still need to burn away 20 keys

stop this madness
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