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Elona+ Custom 1.55 General Information (for newer players): http://pastebin.com/Zcavai8x
Elona+ Custom 1.55 Mods: http://pastebin.com/vZ8Hfw6C
Previous thread: >>14855527
You pat the younger sister's head.
You can't help but smile when you see the younger sister.
The younger sister cranes her neck to look up at you.
>>14881260
Yerles master race.
Even with the hiccup named magic unleashed upon the world, technology will win in the end.
Praise Mani, ok.
The Secret treasure of Itzpalt is interesting for a Wizard, but is Itzpalt a good god for the class?
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>>14881850
Some of the gods are getting buffs in Elona+ soon. Stay tuned. Itzpalt is fine, not the best, in his current state.
dead game
Who f12 type wizard here?
>>14881960
Which ones are looking bad in particular? I don't remember the last time I played and I just went Jure for the pillow.
>>14881960
Do you mean the rewards for worshipping or the npcs themselves?
What happens with saves for new versions by the way, I've played older versions of Elona but I've never played for long enough to stick between versions.
>>14882144
Kumiromi is the defacto best god as of 1.55 because of his absurd stamina boost. This is going to change in an upcoming version (see below).
https://arch.b4k.co/jp/thread/14806719/#q14810101
This is someone translating part of the Japanese changelog - hasn't yet been implemented in the English version.
>[Changes and additions]
>- Added 6 high-level members to the Shell race. Added 1 evolution pattern.
>- Doubled the effectiveness of the passive ability from worshipping Mani.
>The ability from Opatos has been made to affect more than physical damage.
>Yacatect's ability will now also increase the drop rate of regular items.
>Speed increase and speed cap for worshipping Lulwy also increased.
>20% of max health added to formula for Prayer of Jure, but only for the player.
>- Made it so that Mist of Silence effect will not show up even when out of sight."
There's good reason to believe, in my opinion, that the other god perks will get buffs to put them on par.
>>14882151
The rewards for worshipping. Saves between versions work just fine, although if you move from Elona to Elona+ there's a bit of a gameplay power gap because Elona+ is like steroids for a vanilla character. Always backup just in case.
>>14882203
Addon to this is the Kumi nerf incoming:
From the changelog:
>- Changed stamina recovery from 2 sp/10 turns to 2 sp/4 turns.
>- Made stamina regeneration from worshipping Kumiromi recover 1 sp/2 turns. [from 1 sp/1 turn]
If anyone is interested, up5563 contains a map with a cat god custom NPC and a summoning crystal. I've summoned her into my game a while ago, but I haven't seen her yet. She's near the center of the map at the dirt patch and follows you around. She has superb resistances against mind, darkness and nether with little against all other types except magic — the usual no resist. She's proficient in swords, martial arts, bows, evasion and medium armor. The summoning crystal is top right where I'm right now. The map is build like maze. Just mine your way.
www.elonaup.x0.com/sozai/src/up5563.zip
Is there any way to get the young fox brother's excellent spell loadout on a pet with less speed / INI?
Do you guys think if a team of these + my pets would be able to take on Amurdad?
>>14882421
Wow, my leash broke when I used it on the dragon. Never seen that before.
Goddamn, I can never settle on a fighting style.
I have three different characters I keep bouncing between because of this.
>>14882434
lol same
>>14882376
Do what the snai- slime does and have it drink cursed hermes blood and from the well, then inherit the gimped fox brother with a soul spindle.
I do wish there was some official way of lowering INI in game though. Not sure how that would be balanced.
>>14882434
You could use the same character and switch fighting styles on it...
>>14882203
Oh
Itzpalt isn't getting any change?
That's a shame, is the absorb mana ability actually worth it though?
It seems like it only recovers a tiny amount of mana for the sp cost that it has.
I'd prefer if it was just a mana regen buff rather than a bulk amount given.
>>14882203
>>14882220
>kumi nerf
>most others buffs
Fug :DDD
ehekatl should of got a buff or some
At least I have a high regeneration spell
>>14882444
INI is pretty weird to begin with. It's effectively a hurdle that, unlike everything else, never goes away.
I'm not a fan of how it encourages inheritance shenanigans.
>>14882478
Absorb mana gets stronger as you gain favor with Itzpalt. It actually can restore quite a lot of mana later on. Speaking of favor., I'm surprised a lot of people don't realize that the god bonuses scale with favor. Like if a god gives you bonus to magic attribute the bonus increases as your favor increases.
>edit character into the clothing slot so that I can actually see the horse when I'm riding
>the horse's face is some scrambled mess of pixels
What the fuck?
>>14882111
Unless you're just testing stuff. Being an F12 wizard is extremely shameful. I'd say they're even below Lomias.
>>14882528
>they're even below Lomias
Rude.
>>14882529
The truth hurts.
Is there anything more boring and annoying than collecting AP for a pet which is too weak to fight alone?
Did a test, ammo can't be used for artifact fusion, in fact when using the hammer of garrok on an ammo, it does not gain any bonus, though still gaining the miracle quality.
Both work without issue for non-ammo items.
Disappointing.
>>14882545
How do you get that skill tracker to appear?
Help me please
>>14882766
What skill tracker? You mean the life and gauge bar under the pet?
>>14882772
Under the time compass. On the left side of the screen.
>>14882766
Oh these. Just go to your character skills and press * over one to track it.
>>14882630
I have an energy cell with timestop, magic and rapid. Is it possibly to find one with all of those but also explosive and pierce?
Pretty much every single bit of ammo I've seen from adventurers, loot, rewards wherever have all just have either no special ammo or just 1-2. I sort of feel like I've currently got the best ammo I can find until late where I can only assume the artifacts step it the fuck up.
Mmmmmmmmm can't beat Amurdad. This is so frustrating.
That dead emperor in Chaos Fort <Hell> is no fucking joke. Goddamn. I said I wanted a challenge but this is ridiculous. Oh well, back to the void. We will meet again Ussyrail!
>>14882545
Could you please post your item sheet? I'd like to get those buff icons.
>>14882994
But the buff and debuff icons are the standard icons from 1.55?
>>14883007
Ah, so it was just an icon I was unfamiliar with. What was the debuff you had on before?
>>14883012
I think mist of frailness.
I can't seem to trigger sleep sharing with my companion holding a sleep sheep.
What am I doing wrong?
>>14883034
Make sure {s}he's in sight before you go to bed and, yeah, just wait.
>>14883043
She's always in sight when I go to bed, I gave her the sleep sheep for 3 in-game months now and I haven't gotten the event to trigger yet.
So it only occurs randomly and once in a while?
>>14883050
Yeah but even if it doesn't happen often don't sweat. It's at best a mild inconvenience since the only reward is a blood. If it showed better flavor text then my opinion would be different but it doesn't, so...
>>14883050
Even with the sleep sheep it rarely happens.
>>14883055
>>14883058
Ehh, I was trying to get our relationship to soul mate from fellow but looks like I have to grind her up.
I was planning to let it reach to soul mate eventually by sleeping and I'm too lazy to grind but oh well.
>>14883065
Take her to the puppy cave and teach her shadow step down there. Give it thirty minutes, and hour tops. Could even go to the void.
>>14882869
I have come to the conclusion that I am currently unable to beat Amurdad. It's always that super regen.
>>14883141
Can the scissors be obtained through pet inventory?
>>14883293
Is he actually carrying the scissors in his inventory or is it a drop?
>>14883303
Carrying.
Why not just astral pen him then? You can get the sickle too.
>>14883312
Dunno. Rovid's not carrying the amulet. I'll hop by Amur in a bit to check on Amurdad himself.
He's not carrying it. Good idea though, never thought of doing that.
>>14883323
I think that's what most people do.
>>14883334
All the people here I've seen in the last weeks have fought him.
>>14883342
How else would you recruit him to your party? It doesn't drop upon death? Do they have like 2000 CHR and levels in Domination or some shit?
>>14883353
Astral light pen.
Hey, I found kitty god.
>>14883868
Do I have to bring my own summon crystals or are there crystals in the .pum file that I can use to download the ket?
>>14883882
There is one in the top right of the map.
>>14883886
Cool thanks.
So anyway I recently used AP to teach my dragon Attribute. Amazing skill, really. Everyone should teach it to their Martial artists; well worth the points. Anyway, right now the main element I'm running with is Chaos as the default. I, of course, use the element eyes to change the attribute element when necessary but should I keep it as Chaos or should the default instead be raw magic?
>>14883055
If you give your pet a custom text/dialogue file, you can make your own flavor text for sleep sharing that your pet will say when you fug them
Oh yeah, the god recruiting penalty. Well the INI is more manageable now. Also her superb resistances against darkness, mind and nether are still there.
>>14883868
>>14883913
I hate navigating that horrendous map. I even gave the maze an honest try, at least I would have if it wasn't for the stupid cat following me everywhere.
Where'd you find her?
>>14883902
What's the %txt command for the sleepsharing?
>>14883922
I said pretty much everything in this post >>14882372
>>14883928
Where'd you find her in your world, I meant.
Used my one and only insight lens on her and saw she was level 30 with 800 speed. Yours is not.
>>14883942
I just visited the lvl 34 dungeon which popped up right next to my home. Thought I could give it a try and lo and behold I found her. You find summoned custom NPCs in dungeons relating to their own level. As for the speed, yeah. Since her race is catgod the god recruiting penalty applies. It reduces their stats to make them less overpowered. Forgot that one. If you plan to get one use a monster ball. I've casted domination around 30 times and always got the "nothing happens" message. I just squeezed her almost to death and used a monster ball.
>>14883899
Pretty sure nether restores HP upon hit, so it basically makes them into a vampire.
Are there no real drawbacks to whoring yourself to several gods? Punishment hex is only 10000 turns.
>>14884422
None but imo that and the Karma "penalties" need to change.
>>14884154
What % of damage does Nether restore as HP? Also, nether seems to do the least damage to void mobs.
>>14884444
First quads. Damn.
Does anyone have a skirt PCC like pic related?
>>14884422
The real punishment is having to do the favor grind all over again.
Pastebin slave!
I found some interfaces in the ZIP files on the uploader. Add 'em to the 'bin, please.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8dcb55kfy2gs2mi/Interfaces.zip?dl=0
>>14885349
There are more, I suspect, floating around in zip files. I just got sick of editing my sheets.
>>14885316
Thanks for the find! Have a putitoro.
What's the quickest way of training up Element scar to level fifty?
>>14885453
Use a strange diary to summon a monster in your home, then pen it in with fences. Make sure the monster doesn't have cursed items (teleport/assassinated by unseen hand) or abilities that can cause damage (like any kind of fire/ice spell), etc etc. Then just stand outside the fence and hold down the key you assign the curse to. If you can silence yourself, this goes by even faster because you won't have to deal with the animations at all.
>>14885488
>items (teleport/assassinated by unseen hand) or abilities that can cause damage (like any kind of fire/ice spell), etc etc. Then just stand outside the fence and hold down the key you assign the curse to. If you can silence your
That sounds monstrously cruel. I'm probably just tired though.
>>14885488
Is it best to train spells at 400% down to a set number like 100%? Or does it not really matter.
>>14885498
>cruel
>video game
what
>>14885501
The higher the spell potential, the quicker the spell levels up. If you need to conserve stock like with meteor and summon spirits, then best to cast at 400% so you don't waste stock. If you have unlimited stock (most other spells) then train as much as you want, on the understanding that it will take more casts to gain each spell level the lower your potential falls.
>>14885767
Okay, thank you.
>>14885501
For me I just train until i'm not satisfied with how fast the spell is levelling. The exceptions, of course, are meteor, summon spirits, and harvest, where I will only cast them when they are at 400% potential (unless I absolutely need to cast them)
I wonder if 3 plats was worth feeding that guard a heqet steak for.
Does the "Invest 50" option only show up if you have enough money for it? If so, whats the average amount for a low level shop? I just found out about investing to get better scrolls.
>>14886107
Only shows up when you have enough money. No idea about the average, too much variance. Once you clear dungeons reliably, levelling an unlevelled shopkeeper is incredibly cheap, so don't worry about the cost too much.
>>14886107
Invest 50 is investcost*20, since invest raise rank by 2-3.
>>14885501
I always start at 400 and train down to 200. Won't actively train with less usually for sanity reasons.
There is also one spell that I have that doesn't allow me to train below 200 potential curiously enough. This spell is magic dart and this happened around lv 800 or so of it. I'll get to like 210 potential and whenever I cast magic dart I won't get any exp like I would with other spells. Have to raise the spell potential above 210 to actually level the spell and start getting exp again.
My highest level spell is magic storm at lv 1002 and that doesn't have the problem of magic dart insofar as it can go below 200% potential. Makes me wonder if certain spells are easier to reach higher levels than others and the existence of soft caps.
On a side note I see that my pet Akeno has been thinking the same thing with proximity assist. Good job Akeno in making yourself deadlier and crafting something that doesn't just end up on the shop shelves.
>>14886250
Magic dart gives 40 exp, and after making it go through the experience formula, it gives 0.99 ( 0.00099 in ingame value ) at 200% potential and 800 spell level, i.e. rounding to 0, so there's nothing wrong.
Also, the maximum level magic dart can be is 1590, since after that even at 400% potential it gives 0 experience.
Well, that's not correct since if experience is 0 you get a 1/(SkillLevel/10) chance to get 0.001 experience ( 0.005 if high learning proc ).
But just going from 1590 to 1591 would require something like 150000 on average, so it's effectively the cap.
>>14886250
>level 966 oracle
Do you use it in every single room?
I mean maybe I should be doing that, I missed a fluffy tail by not being observant.
>>14886355
Thank you for the heads up on what's going on and what to expect later.
>>14886356
I'm not using it for artifact information. I'm actually using it to train the magic attribute. It's an easy spell to stock because you can reserve it at the mage guild and most important, it's one of the easiest spells to spam. Spamming oracle trains your magic attribute so I'd suggest doing it for that.
>>14886382
>Spamming oracle trains your magic attribute
WHAT
>>14886596
Yes, spamming oracle is a great way to increase the magic attribute. As you cast it it trains the magic attribute and you should see a couple of increases in magic until the potential tanks. Simply hot key the spell and hold the key down and watch.
Is there any difference between 200% and 400% attribute potential? I always hear people say to keep potential at superb, but potential displays as superb at 200% and upwards.
>>14886686
400% is twice as good as 200%. It's just that the "Good" "Superb" etc labels obfuscate the true values.
>>14885767
I think what anon was asking was, is there a sweet spot?
>>14886628
How much literacy do you need to be able to read a Golden Bough?
>>14886718
In a perfect world, the most efficient way to level spells would be to gain one spell level, sleep two days so potential reaches 400 again, and gain another spell level. That would use the least amount of casts and stock to gain 1 spell level.
That way is very time-wasting for the player, though, so you have to consider whether you want efficiency or if you want speed. If it takes you 1 hour to pass 2 ingame days for that spell level, it might take you 5 minutes for 5 spell levels, it's just that your potential will go way down and you'll end up using a lot of stock and MP to do it. As you keep doing that, it will become more difficult to gain spell levels, but then again, you'll have more power earlier.
Especially in the early game as a wizard when you need spell damage, don't hesitate to cast just because you want to be efficient.
>>14882220
>>- Changed stamina recovery from 2 sp/10 turns to 2 sp/4 turns.
I can finally cook properly and do party quests without having to suck all the blood of my little girl.
>accidentally plucking an herb plant
FUCK
>>14887320
>>14887320
>Exit
>Reload from farm border
fuck da police
>>14886810
Don't know the exact amount but considering it's the second highest scoring ancient book I imagine quite a bit.
Mia the Cat Freak gives me a weird boner. I think I might have to astral light pen her so we can bump bump together no matter where we are.
>>14888567
There's a short-haired version with a hair pin on the uploader.
>>14888567
Gross dude. She's like that token tryhard catgirl every anime fan club has. I'm absolutely sure the magic vendor and the goods vendor regret opening up shop right next to her home.
>>14888576
She's retarded and has a pretty face, isn't that every guy's dream?
>>14888584
I certainly wouldn't enjoy waking up every day next to unknyown TRU-BULL~
Kudos to you if you could.
>>14888584
I'm pretty sure "not retarded" is a significant factor in most guys' dreams.
Speaking of which, M girl finally decided to engage in bump bump.
>>14888673You didn't fuck it up, did you?
>>14888768
Let's say she had more fun than I had.
>>14888673
>Sleeping next to you indistinguishably
....
Anyway could you post the bg_re# file please?
>>14888584
I don't want to deal with anyone whose title is "the cat freak" and speaks like she does.
You can keep her.
>>14888788
You know, you can find truckloads of these kind of images on pixiv and the boorus if you search for the right tags? Maybe I should just upload all my bg's, since everytime someone asks me to upload one.
https://jii.moe/V1lIk0Ihl.bmp
https://jii.moe/4y2CA6U3x.bmp
>>14888819
So, uh, what would be the pixiv tag(s) for Elona stuff happen to be?
>>14888840
Elona?
>>14888859
What, you mean it's not エロナ or something?
>>14888819
Thank you warmly.
Anyone know where the sprites for the cNPCc monsters come from? And are there any cNPCc I shouldn't bother putting in? (From Miyana's pack)
>>14889519
And are god pets worth raising, what with the penalty and all? Sorry for all the questions.
>>14889519
> (From Miyana's pack)
This is what?
>>14889541
>https://www.dropbox.com/s/h2gm44wuxgom1yg/Miyana's%20CNPC%20Pack1.1.zip?dl=1
The cNPC pack.
>>14889569
Who is this Miyana also which tiles do I use to keep NPCs penned up?
I was savescumming, and just as I had managed to get the worst result possible, just after accidentally hitting alt+f4 when I got exactly what I wanted might I add, that fucking "You have discovered some garbage materials: junk, garbage, dog shit" event came up and auto-saved. Now I'm out of a ton of money, and left with literal dog shit. Thanks Ehekatl.
>>14889519
I BELIEVE the .npc files use the default character sprites. I BELIEVE this but am afraid to test it.
>>14889540
God pets like the one you get from earning enough favor with a god? No penalty and most if not all are useful in some way. They make good pet candidates.
As for an actual god(Lulwy, Itzpalt, Mani, etc) or a pet of the race god with good attributes then the god penalty applies and it really destroys their attributes. They'll be just a fraction of what they were in regards to power. Up to you whether you want to raise one.
>>14889660
Monsters of God race. Even if raised from a low level(lvl.3)?
>>14889660
On the other hand, the penalty to God race pets makes their INI not completely miserable.
>>14889683
They're god race so the INI values should be ludicrous but that aside? You could do far worse.
Does Big Daddy have a chance of dropping <God Heart> items?
He is a god race right?
>>1488958
Don't know. It's the name of the file. And around where the arrow is are the fence tiles. Just use a house board on property you own. Or if you mean other places, Spell or Rod of Wall Creation.
Getting multiple pets from the insane book: confirmed.
>>14889709
Machinegod Gunner, yep.
>>14889720
for
>>14889580
>>14889632
I'm sorry for that.That's what you get for savescumming
>>14889642
cNPCs use custom sprites that are inside the .npc files, no need to alter the character sprites. Just pop it in your user directory and the NPCs will start showing up as hostile enemies.
>>14889580
>Who is this Miyana
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/User:Miyana
From the wiki. His/her cNPCs went unnoticed, so I asked pastebin anon to add it to the mods list.
If I create a new shop then destroy my old one will I have to start the rank over from 100?
>>14889632
You hit enter after that message popped up. You had your chance. It didn't have to end like this.
>>14886810
The golden bough has a base difficulty of 4080 because the reading difficulty of ancient books is
50 + 50*Index + 20*Index^2,
where Index is (Guild Point - 1).
If the book is blessed, then difficulty = base difficulty / 1.2
If cursed, then it is base difficulty * 1.5
When reading,
if rnd(#of party members? * literacy sum * 4 + 250) < rnd(difficulty + 1), then you have a 1/7 chance to fail.
(The rnd function in hsp generates a number from 0 to the given parameter - 1.)
If you didn't fail, but 10 * literacy < difficulty, then it rolls
rnd(literacy * 10 + 1) < rnd(difficulty + 1) to try to fail you again.
And if you still didn't fail, it'll perform two more similar checks if you have 20 times or 30 times less literacy than the difficulty.
So if you were trying to read a blessed golden bough without reading party, it would take 788 literacy to read it 100% of the time... if I didn't get the formula wrong.
Other base difficulties for comparison:
Dominate: 2000
Wish: 5250
Magic storm: 1400
Oracle: 1500
4D pocket: 750
Water bolt: 350
By the way, turns to read = difficulty / ( literacy + 2 ) + 1
If in a reading party, then turns to read is 1.5 * [ difficulty / (literacy + 2 ) + 1 ] + 5. In other words, it takes 1.5 times as many turns +5.
Partial source: http://jbbs.shitaraba.net/bbs/read.cgi/game/45610/1221134129/
(Vanilla elona)
>>14889540
Black cat is nice to have if you want the best equipment (If she kills an enemy, there's a chance she'll bless an equipment that drops from it with a random attribute, so you can tack that onto a fully crafted fully levelled living weapon, if i'm not mistaken.) Also they get browbeat when they evolve, which is nice
Fairy is great for seeds, evolution has a nice ability to root multiple enemies.
Exile does a lot of magic damage, but Elona custom makes melee so much better than ranged or magic for pets.
Protector has the Lay Hand ability, if I'm not mistaken, which will save an ally from death and is recharged by sleeping (Basically, is fairly useful if you're squishy and you want to have a backup in case something happens). Evolved form has absolute protect, which protects all allies from harm.
Golden knight has the ability to carry a lot of stuff, and can carry furniture, which is nice early but quickly becomes obsolete.
Golden Goose has platinum song, casting a bunch of buffs on allies, so definitely worth considering if you're going pet based (you can self-cast those buffs though, so if you're running with only one pet it might not be worth it).
Black angel has boost. When evolved it gets lulwy's trick, which will make it one of the fastest pets around
Android has the armor tag, which is nice, but plenty of pets also have it. When evolved, they get an ability that allows it to have all allies in range perform a ranged attack on its target, if they are capable of doing so, which I imagine would do a lot of damage.
Basically, consider
Protector (if you don't like dying)
Fairy (seeds)
Golden Goose (Platinum song)
Black Cat (To make the best equips + browbeat)
Black Angel (lulwy's trick)
The rest are only if you like their design, or if you're like me and are specifically going for an army with one of each divine pet.
>>14890930
>Protector has the Lay Hand ability
This is an absolute god sendhehfor protecting my super squishy pumpkin kid.
She so does enjoy getting murdered.
>>14890930
>>14890967
Lay Hand can also revive the player if they die.
How immoral is it to reload shiva's fortress over and over again to farm god hearts?
I need more for my pets!
>>14890999
You may as well cheat engine it and give yourself a nice stack of 999 hearts.
But that's just my opinion.
>>14890999
Not gamebreakingly immoral. God pets aren't super wow amazing either way, so it's a little peculiar in the first place that they require god hearts, which are ultra rare and one of the few items just plain unavailable until you reach a certain power threshold.
>>14890999
>>14891020
This dechi. If you gotta have all the cute evolved pets, you gotta do whatever it takes to get them. Personally, I think the moral quandaries only come up if it's helping you get through the story dungeons, a big boss, or the Void, if only because you're cutting out the biggest part of the game (grinding for these encounters). There's a lot more questionable stuff you can do legitimately.
You can keep things legitimate by Astral Penning the South Tyris demigods. You'll get the second-best weapons in the game, more body part customizability, a different (maybe better) set of abilities, and a strong pet that has wallet-sized holes in their pockets.
>>14891133
Because they make perfect petfus.
>>14891133
>it's a little peculiar in the first place that they require god hearts
Being cute AND rare is what gives god pets their value.
Would ypu want them as much if they were level 1, looked like yeeks, and spawned like yeeks?
Cheating for god hearts isn't immoral. It's not like you're raising the price of daraprim or anything. It's just... not impressive.
>>14891880
*evolved god pets
>>14891133
I wish I could buy them from a souvenir vendor or something
I even have the millions of gold it would take, god hearts are just rare drops, but at least a quest and fortress will give you two no matter what
I just use a lot of pets
>>14891160
>>14891880
Being a cute girl is essential to being my pet
Bonus skills, attributes, and fighting styles are a bonus that I utilize
Many god pets just happen to be both useful and cute/unique
>>14891020
>>14891134
Would rather not recruit the demigods, raising pets from scratch is more satisfying. Also that INI, AP training makes my original pets way more powerful and easier to train than the evolved pets in the lost continent. I think they will all eventually get quests to gain their unique items. And just kill them for accessories.
At this point I think I will just become a deity slayer and start killing them for their hearts. I'm at least thankful for a steady supply, just need to get that good.
I'm at that level in the game where I can start training to do just that, but fuck the inner NPCs
>>14891958
Too bad that delicious metal bit and garbage INI go hand in hand.
>>14890999
I personally don't understand the rush to get the hearts that you and others have. While the bonus to stuff and cosmetic difference is nice, I don't think evolutions are so critical from a game mechanic standpoint. Most of the time, an evolution isn't going to provide a night and day difference to the performance of a pet. With Elona Custom new abilities from an evolution might not be as amazing either since chances are, you could of probably taught your pet something if you really wanted to. Also, if you really wanted your pet to look different you can take matters into your own hands without the evolution system.
Since I don't view evolutions as truly amazing I'm under the impression that one can afford to just wait for them to come.
What is your absolute favorite generated alias?
Guys help, i was triying to save scum to get the female insectoid from itztapal and in one of my atemps an event happened and auto saved. How do i change my insectod from male to female?
>>14893510
Give them a blessed Forbidden Meat (created under the recipe called "Sex Change" in the Pot for Fusion.)
I cant move in the world map beacuse my cargo is too heavy, and in the world map i cant drop items and eating wont lower it enoght, should i kill myself with acid?
>>14893537
Enter the area you're standing on, drop stuff there.
>>14893556
Oh i am fucking retad, thanks.
>>14893510
>>14893524
Or use Elosnack. Go to cdata.s1 tab, go to index 1 at the top, then change the number by gender from 0 to 1.
Has anyone installed cNPCs from Miyana's pack yet? What are your favorite NPCs that you've encountered? For me it would be the Mind Breaker or that little-sister snail. The former because I'm at the level where even my pets can't one shot her making magic burst a real and deadly possibility. It's also interesting because I'm super resistant to all her bolt spells meaning I have a chance to decide whether to risk a death for some AP. The snail because seeing that stupid thing spam dark ball is funny especially since I'm resistant, have attribution shield and she can be one-shotted by my pets.
I'm tempted to just add all the early level NPCs then make a new character to experience them.
>>14894380
Once you start Elosnacking it's hard to stop.
Not even once.
After throwing two love potions at her there is now an adventurer in Palmia that wants my head. My pets want her dead too now after she beat me up, I just want to be friends. What do I do?
>>14894902
Cast incognito, then give her gifts until she no longer hates you. Alternately, kill her over and over until she gives up adventuring.
>>14894949
What kind of gifts can i give to npcs? they always refuse evering, i dont know why but the store clerks hate my guts.
>>14894949
I just hope I don't get sued for this. By the way have you ever wondered how the PC and co. carry around their stuff? Do I need to have my pet hold a grenade before she can Bakuretu?
How can i recover an ally from the dojo?
>From this version on, the stat-increase feats will be gradually exchanged for feats that give abilities and passive effects that can be used for roleplaying.
Neat
>>14893422
I like the one I'm currently running with, "The Virgin".
It's funny for roleplay purposes... especially since I rolled "Whore Princess" for the name of my house.
>>14893422
>>14894985
[i]nteract with them and select the "Bring Out" option. If it isn't showing up, leave the map and come back.
>>14894458
So far I've only met the Bow Maid, Blade, and Rouge Blade (low lvl). Excited to see what new npcs lie ahead.
>>14895052
Only 14 hours consecutively? I'm guessing you just picked up Elona?
What's the point of reaching the Rank 1 of Adventurers? And how could some guy show up out of nowhere with hundreds of thousands of fame?
Page two: #####( five #) extra damage to gods and negate paralysis. Keep for a quad-wielding pet or dump?.
>>14895187
1. No point right now, but something might be implemented later.
2. Because game hates you.
>>14895215
Forgot. Damn.
>>14895250
Imo dump unless you've got nothing better for pets.
Where can I get kitty banks other than Noyel and the Thieves Guild?
>>14895323
Sometimes sold by vendors. I've found most of mine in dungeons.
>>14895250
Heh, my first lightsaber my pet Akeno is using is similar. Probably could do better yeah but if you do decide to keep it like I did just do what another anon suggested me to do. Use a blessed superior material scroll on it to increase the damage dice. Can make a nice stack of them using gem cutting to make scrolls.
I have two living lighsabers waiting for her but I haven't touched them and won't for awhile since I'm saving up mats for artifact fusion which I'll apply first before leveling them. Might want to do the same and try aiming for living lightsabers too.
Have you ever found one of these?
If so, post it! Mine's ass, I wanna see a good one.
Only one I've found through all my characters and long hours of playtime.
>>14896046
Randomly generated equipment is ass as usual. The picture is ass too, because I forgot to turn off the smelly ass scaling in Windows. I'm too much of a lazy ass to do it again. Everything is ass.
I couldn't resist doing it, after all.
My ultimate meshera.
Now, the most difficult task of them all : find her a name.
>>14896630
Semen Demon
>>14896647
N-no.
>>14896661
Prostate Apostate
>>14896630
How did you do that?
so, like a real murderhobo I killed a fellow adventurer for his zantetsu. How do I make up with him now?
>>14896994
Kissu.
>>14896994
Giving him drugged food of course.
How should I level this? Should I bother?
>>14896994
If you can still talk to him, use booze.
If you can't, incognito and booze / drugged food.
Might just be easier to repeatedly kill him until he realizes his limitations and leaves.
>>14896968
I'm not >>14896630, but as far as I could tell it involves a lot of cursed AND rotten undead dishes and well/fountain drinking.
>>14897023
If you have access to Lost Irva you can fill it to the brim with enchantments then kill stuff with it to get a crap-ton of attributes. Or if you don't you can just kill things. U2U.
>>14897040
Thanks, but it'll be a long time before I'll be ready for Meshera.
I meant what should I pick, like for pure damage?
Will stacking marksman be better than element?
Is magic damage as good on a firearm as it is on a melee weapon?
>>14897088
Marksman affects your ranged multiplier but IIRC skill boosts don't do much. I recommend Lots of element ###s and if possible then magic damage b oost. You could also try to save-scum for proximity assist or interlocking weapons and additional chance to get attacks like on the Gemini. I heard some people also go for #### bonus damage on common enemy types. You could also maybe try to make the thing a status-negation stick. Like try to save-scum for everything from null poison to see invisible enemies.
>>14896968
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Soul_spindle
You use it then make a gene, then with that gene you reduce her to 1 attribute through wells ( don't forget your rods of fire bolt ! ) and with 12 doomed potion of hermes ( buy/keep all empty potion you find and use them on well, but farming small medal is still somewhat mendatory ).
Once reduced to 1*8/2, make a gene, and with the second gene, or third character, you get any possible NPC with that type of INI.
It's... Not something that you want to do more than once, though. Ever.
>>14897088
>>14897208
Marksman affects your ranged multiplier but IIRC skill boosts don't do much. I recommend Lots of element ###s and if possible then magic damage b oost. You could also try to save-scum for proximity assist or interlocking weapons and additional chance to get attacks like on the Gemini. I heard some people also go for #### bonus damage on common enemy types. You could also maybe try to make the thing a status-negation stick. Like try to save-scum for everything from null poison to see invisible enemies.
ELEMENT RESISTANCE, sorry.
>>14897399
Can you even savescum artifact fusion? Pretty sure each tear you get from dungeons has a set bonus you can't change.
>>14897501
I meant the living weapon and I read that there is a message that appears when the weapon level sup. So,.. just save before then and track down the exact moment when the weapon gains a level. Save. Check the attribute, accept or reload, repeat as needed.
>No longer a Lady Killer
What melee weapons should I give a pet which only attacks with a ranged weapon. I was thinking two daggers for the juicy hit bonus they provide. But I'm not sure.
The hit bonus from melee weapons counts also for ranged attacks, i.e. ranged weapons, right? Therefore, the decreased accuracy which comes from dual wielding should also affect the accuracy of ranged weaponry.
>>14897981
Claws are nice, since they give both offensive and defensive stats. Pretty sure weapon stats are local, in that a weapon with a lot of to hit won't affect a ranged weapon.
>>14898026
Could've sworn that the hit bonuses of all weapons stack and affect all weaponry. That may have been the case in older versions.
>They do not attack on their own, but use their offensive statistics to improve the damage from every other melee or ranged attack, adding both accuracy and damage.
So claws it is.
Rubynus provides the biggest bonus to accuracy from all materials, right?
>>14897342
>you get any possible NPC with that type of INI
Whoa, wait, how does that work?
Wouldn't the third gene just give you the straight-1s Meshera?
>Vindalian Jiu-Jitsu
>Increases damage from squeeze special action. Other effects are unknown.
HUGS.
>>14898047
Well if you have anything that provides an interlocking shooting mechanism, I think that would take priority. Can claws even provide that in the first place?
>>14899060
>It provides an interlocking shooting mechanism. - Rank 99, melee, feet, back(Elona+ attribute only.)
I think claws fall under melee.
>>14899282
No, they're reskinned shields, which I don't believe count as weapons
>>14898142
Well, if you do it with a meshera, sure.
But if you do it with hyper yacatect for example, you'd still have her reduced to 50 all attributes and 50 speed at the second generation, and at the third generation after reduction of stats during the second have a 458/2 INI hyper yacatect.
From 3116/2000 INI at the start of the process.
Be warned though, the well and medal farming WILL take around ten hours of your time, for each character. Do it only if you really like the NPC.
>>14899999
I was under the impression that leaving the chaos fort bosses alone would prevent them from spawning in the void. I thought wrong.
Siva popped up.
>>14900399
Interestingly, you can encounter bosses at lower than their natural dungeon levels. I beat Yerleswood this way and got the Piledriver a little earlier than expected.
>>14900415
Oh right, I remember that.
How's the fleshy shrine coming along by the way?
>>14900419
That's not me. Hopefully it all worked out for him though.
>>14900433
Oops, beg your pardon.
Gardening quests are such a draaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag
The black cat can bless items. What is the action called?
Some weak shit mob just one-hit killed me with a grenade. It wasn't even miracle quality. What the fuck?
>>14902992
Better work on that sound resistance.
>>14902985
It's not a special action. It's hard-coded in.
>>14903029
Bollocks.
>>14903038
It's a fixed 1/3 chance to lick a drop. I think.
Even if it were a special action, it's not a good idea to make the cat lick everyone and everything with custom AI. It'll get herpes.
Is it a waste to herb curarias? Is that 800 attribute exp on top of the exp that curarias give, or does it overwrite it?
>>14903259
Not at all. It's the best herb in combo if you want to train all your attributes.
>>14900399
Did it drop a god heart?
That's the important part
I have another to post. I actually kind of want to get a bear pet after this but I'm not sure what kind of pet I'd raise it to be. Can I use a business card to change my pet's class from Warrior to Thief then to something customized like KittenEater and still get the Thief class feats? Also if a pet is a dual/tri/quad wielder and has high stealth is the Warrior feat still better than the Thief one?
>>14906982
I'm actually pretty sure I have a bear one, not sure where I saved it though.
Does anyone here know moon? I think I may have stumbled upon a thing that can fix the casting in the Starlight Magical girl.txt
You know how no pets that use the .txt use the text for the spells? Maybe someone could test out the skills here in this .txt that I found on the uploader.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jc0vo49k4hsquaj/ChalloteJP.txt?dl=0
Bump what? You target the elona thread. Elisard the citizen notices you. "Guards! Guards!" You are found bumping. Karma(-5)
The thread seems to have slowed a lot this week. I guess all the new players realized their limitations and left.
>>14906877
Yes.
>>14907068
What variant of Elona is this custom npc for? I see flavor text for just about everything - from eating raw noodles to sandbagging.
>>14907558
I'm taking a pause from the game since for now all I have is a routine of mindless grinding without real objective
>>14907558I too tried to bump it by dumping pics.
>The thread seems to have slowed a lot this week. I guess all the new players realized their limitations and left.
Maybe, maybe.
>Yes.
Do you mean this in relation to the business cards or the Warrior > Thief for dual-wielding part?
>What variant of Elona is this custom npc for? I see flavor text for just about everything - from eating raw noodles to sandbagging.
I never even considered that different elona variants would have varying levels of support for talk files or CNPC. I want to test it but I don't know what spells are being used and since I can't recognize moon I'm not sure if she'd even be rendering the text properly. This doesn't even take into account the fact that my game only renders Japanese as gibberish.
>>14907577
>Do you mean this in relation to the business cards or the Warrior > Thief for dual-wielding part?
?
>I don't know what spells are being used
It's the numbers in the AI section.
aiHeal. "403"
aiAct. "410,410,405,405,414"
aiActSubFreq. "50"
aiActSub. "621,621,404,646,459"
You can find out which ID numbers correspond to what spells in the table at the bottom of this page:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Spellbooks
But some are special actions and the wiki doesn't have their ID number listed, so here they are:
403 cure of jua
410 short teleport
405 healing touch
414 magic dart
621 harvest mana
404 healing rain
646 death word
459 crystal spear
I looked it up, and this seems like it was created for elona_omake or omake overhaul. There's the transmissivity value and stuff in it.
Here's the wiki page for elona omake custom npcs:
http://wikiwiki.jp/elonatxt/?%A5%AB%A5%B9%A5%BF%A5%E0NPC%A4%CE%BA%EE%C0%AE%A4%C8%B3%C6%A5%F4%A5%A1%A5%EA%A5%A2%A5%F3%A5%C8%A4%C7%A4%CE%BB%C5%CD%CD#s18d9950
>>14907606
>?
Does the 'Yes' apply to:
Can I use a business card to change my pet's class from Warrior to Thief then to something customized like KittenEater and still get the Thief class feats?
OR
Also if a pet is a dual/tri/quad wielder and has high stealth is the Warrior feat still better than the Thief one?
>I looked it up, and this seems like it was created for elona_omake or omake overhaul. There's the transmissivity value and stuff in it.
So there's no way of tagging text to spells used by pets in Elona+? Why then are there so many cNPCs and talk files with those properties? Like:
%txtRegeneration, EN
"Eating dogs gives me unlimited strength!"
>>14907558
Well, they haven't really added much stuff to end-game Elona, which is where I'd imagine most of us are at by now. I'm just grinding up my pets whenever I have free time, not much to update you guys on.
I am working on updating the monster girl spritesheet, so if you guys have any sprites you'd like to see in it, I'd be happy to take requests
>>14907677
Yes as in Siva dropped a god heart.
I don't know anything about custom class names or dual wield, sorry. Maybe you meant to reply to someone else?
And I just realized that help_npc.txt has all the spell and special action ID numbers.
>Why then are there so many cNPCs and talk files with those properties
Elona omake is popular. I think the only flavor text conditions supported by elona plus are those in npc_template.txt.
Can't find any template that supports %txtRegeneration. %txtcast<skill> is indeed supported by elona omake though.
>>14907677
His yes wasn't in response to your post.
>>14907558
Stardust Crusader Joan here, I've been lurking since I've been on my shitty laptop that doesn't take pictures as fast. Here is a status update I guess
>tfw no hearts at all
My little girl will never grow up into the Valkyrie she was born to be
>>14908289
Evolution hearts sell for peanuts (expensive, golden peanuts) in Larna.
>>14908289
>I get asston of evohearts
>meanwhile, I can't even find a spellbook of mutation
with that, rephrasing:
My little girl will never grow up into the Littler Girl she was born to be
>>14908308
You say that like I got gold to do that
I've been out of the loop since 1.44, what's Elona+ Custom exactly?
>>14908441
A little patch that improves pet AI and adds little convenience tweaks like being able to quite harvest quests as soon you meet the quota.
Have any of you tried a Snail-Tourist run yet?
I'm doing one currently. I must admit, I'm a little new to this game and I was a little afraid to do it but so far it's a lot of fun. I got pretty lucky and managed to find a really powerful gun pretty early on, so I've mostly been building my character around that. I bought a Yerles Machine Infantry slave in Derphy and it's been incredibly helpful, ironically, Hunting quests have become a breeze because the combined gun power can stop most enemies before they can get anywhere near me. My biggest mistake so far was picking the cat as my first pet, although I have only myself to blame because I wanted to make the game more challenging. I'm making decent amounts of gold just walking between the numerous settlements and doing all the Hunting quests I can do.
My biggest problem so far are the street cleaners. It's easy to avoid them as long as you remember where they generally tend to be and you abuse teleport scrolls, but I find myself using a few too many teleport scrolls and end up wasting my money on them.
>>14908507
Street cleaners kill?
>>14908598
They throw salt at snails.
It hurts just as much as you'd think it would.
>>14908598
they throw salt at you, which is a near instant kill.
It sucks, to say the least.
>>14908507
Surround the cleaners' spawn position with doors? The doors don't disappear ever.
>>14907685
Have you killed the gods yet? Don't think anyone is truly in end game until they do that.
Any way to see all adventurers inventory? I know one of them has the Shield of Thorns but I don't know which one
>>14908650
Either find them in person or Elosnack.
I'm pretty sure adventures show up in towns far more often in Elona Custom, or a recent E+ update improved it. It seems much easier to find them now.
>>14908680
Wait, old elosnack works on Elona+?
>>14908702
It has as far as I remember. Maybe not all the new slots have been labeled, but the data formats have never changed.
