Elona+ Custom 1.54 General Information (for newer players): http://pastebin.com/Zcavai8x
Elona+ Custom 1.54 Mods: http://pastebin.com/vZ8Hfw6C
Woops. That'll teach me to blindly copy-paste.
We're on 1.55 for any of those confused...
Anyone have experience with the whole town management thing? Managed to get my contribution to 2000 in Palmia, can't seem to do anything though
>>14831524
I don't think all the town stuff is implemented yet
Is there any way to enter a moongate at random, rather then bring up a list?
Slimegirl are you here? Didn't you recently post an customimage for the marriage-event? bg_re14? Could you post it again?
Getting ready to start this.
What are the recommended interface, spriteset and such I should download? I see some of them in the pastebin but most are listed as outdated or broken.
>>14831746
Not him but see attached.
>>14831774
Test them, I'm pretty sure the pastebin guy added my item sheet I posted last thread at least. Not to mention there was also a character sheet. If none work I'll post mine.
>>14831790
Thanks.
If a pet has:
8d4+28 x9.8
1d38+19 x9.7
3d5+20 x9.5
in their respective melee slots
Does she do (1.4k - enemy defense) or do each of her weapons get rolled against her enemy's defense?
>>14832023
Should be one roll each but if anything crits everything does as well. Not sure though.
Curious about the spectrum of grindfiends that Elona can attract. 300+ hours here.
http://strawpoll.me/6919147
>>14831524
You can spend this point for vote renewal after werewolf attack.
>>14832208
Ah. I've never seen a werewolf attack though
>>14832177
Im only at 203 hours on my current character, i'm sure this is the longest one though because I tend to delete characters whenever significant updates come out and i'm a few updates behind out of laziness.
>>14832177
Game says 328 hours but % of it has been spent by having the game running while I did other stuff so the real number should be around 250
>>14832346
I don't think you will unless you start a new game. Resetting the towns might work.
What's the text for using kumi's statue in custom? Is it still "......!?"?
The japanese text says "種…出ちゃう…", which I guess can be interpreted as "My seed... it's spilling out..."
>>14832450
Yeah, still "......!?"
I like to think that "......!?" is the character reaction though
New player here. Have a Gunner character and a little girl pet from the beginning. All of this pet and gene engineering stuff is so overwhelming, can anyone recommend a goal I should be working toward in that area? I don't really have any clue where to even start with that stuff.
>>14832682
Let's say you fuse a monster on to your little girl.
If that monster has more of a body part than your girl, she will gain 1 of that part. (e.g. Yith with 4 rings on to girl with 2 ring slots -> girl will gain 1 ring slot) I'd say avoid gaining any body parts, or she'll become slower. The exception to this rule is that you don't gain body parts from stuff that the slave merchant sells.
If that monster has more skills than her, she will learn at most 2 of those.
If it has a higher level, then she will gain levels. If that monster also has attributes (the 8 stats like str, mag, etc) higher than her, she'll gain in those attributes too.
Look up the allies that the derphy slave master sells, and from there decide who to buy and fuse to the girl.
Here's a list that I made when I was fusing pets:
marksman - from machine gunner
lockpick, magic tool, two-hand, negotiation, pickpocket - public performer
detection - rogue archer
casting - nurse
cooking - rogue wizard
alchemy,memorization,jewelry - elea wizard
magic control - fallen soldier
anatomy - fuse a horse on to a junk pet from the slave master, then fuse THAT pet to your girl to avoid gaining legs.
Pickpocket is important. Memorization is great for reading party. Two-hand if that's what she's using. Magic control is a 2-way thing - also prevents your spells from hitting her as hard. Not sure if you have access to rogue wizard yet at your level, but cooking's important for breakfast. Anatomy to make dungeons rain meat and keep you fed.
Eventually you'll also want to give her gathering skills like gardening, but that can wait till later when you have monster balls or can cast dominate reliably.
>>14832682
Get gene machine.
Buy couple of robbers at slave trader and add them to to little girl until she have pickpocketing.
Than catch flying frog and 1-2 farmers and add them to little girl until she have fishing, gardening and cooking.
After than she will be ready to be your utility pet and you can focus on more advanced pet breeding\training.
ELIN when? Is NoA kill?
>>14832682
For now nothing much, just train it a little from time to time by putting everything on your little girl as long it doesn't add limbs, this way you give her needed skills.
>>14832816
He was alive enough to kill the servers.
>>14832788
cont.
The goal of gene engineering your pets is to
1. give them important new skills
2. give them new body parts - if it's a pet that has less than 13 parts like bells or snails (though as mentioned before, you can't do this at the slave master)
3. let them gain stats that are important to them - like str in a melee warrior
4. increase their levels, because hp depends partly on levels
5. level your gene engineering skill so that you can fuse even higher level stuff on to them
6. level your learning stat
Is there a way to kill Ssil early on?
I heard that if you fail the first round of sophia's quest, you don't get the vice staff.
>>14832788
>>14832803
>>14832832
Thank you so much, I'll get working. I'm excited to mess with this stuff, now that I have a better understanding.
Golden Stardust Joan reporting in, got a free wish.
Seven League Boots or Aurora Ring?
>>14832934
Boots
>>14832942
Looks good!
How to get materials from the pet? I can't find any option.
>>14833113
You likely don't have the skills. If you do just let them kill things and randomly check. You'll see a tab eventually.
Second time getting speed upper. Spent about 10 empty bottles by now.
Someone made mention that they have problems filling just one herb farm with 5 statues. It's possible to do but it will take some time. If you're experiencing tons of die off it might be better for you to raise your gardening skill before you get serious about planting herbs. Save your herb seeds and just raise gardening by harvesting all other kind of plants. I think 200 gardening is a nice goal to aim for but more is always nice. You'll still get some withering but it should be manageable at this point. If you reach the point where you only have a handful of withering do not nip anything. Just use gemstone of rejuvenations.
As for the scissors it's not a silver bullet for gardening. What it does is it insures replant but does not protect said plant from withering while it's growing. Helpful yes, but I hope people are not thinking that by having the scissors all their problems will go away with herb farming.
Also, I think someone wanted to use artifact fusion on ammo. I don't think ammo can be used in the artifact fusion process. At least, I wasn't able to choose my godly energy cell the last time I went in to make use of artifact fusion. Instead of ammo you may want to look into shoes. Those rarely have a lot of enchants on them so they make excellent artifact fusion candidates.
My pet Akeno is now doing good damage in both normal dungeons and the void. Have used about 10k in AP in raising tactics her tactics to 500. Now I think I want to raise dual wielding to 500. I read the wiki regarding dual wielding but I'm still left with questions.
So it says it improves your ability to fight with two weapons. What do they mean by this? Will you hit more instead of miss? Do you hit harder? They also make mention of extra attacks. How many? One more? Is it dependent on how many hands you have? So in Akeno's case she has two so would she get two extra attacks? Any dual wielders want to comment on this? Thanks in advance.
>tfw lost a chance at a second wish
The slave master in derphy won't sell me any more slaves, after buying two, I only have the option to sell. Why?
>>14833247
You can only have 1 slave or party member per 5 charisma, this includes escort quests.
>>14833200
The more weapons you wield the less accurate your attacks will be. I believe that high dual-wielding skill is primarily for lessening the hit penalty for PCs and pets using 4+ arms.
>>14833259
Even though I sent them away to town?
>>14833287
Abandon or gene engineer them.
>>14833287
Yes, Dead party members count, as well as pets employed in a ranch or shop, or waiting at your house.
Only if you abandon them or gene engineer them, they are part of your party.
>>14833287
Pets in town still counts as being in your party.
Same with shopkeepers, ranched pets, etc..
The only way to have a pet and have it not count against your limit is to put them in the Dojo or put them in an Abandoned Ranch (you won't have access to this for a long while yet)
>>14832788
>anatomy - fuse a horse on to a junk pet from the slave master, then fuse THAT pet to your girl to avoid gaining legs.
Holy shit that's genius. Wonder why I never thought of this.
Should I be scary of it attracts monsters attribute?
>>14833433
If you can't handle somewhat strong monsters, yes. This will cause monsters to spawn in any non-global area around you, including in towns and your home.
The rarity it happens depends on how many ## I believe.
Is it possible to gain AP from dragons summoned by Ragnarok?
>>14831484
>getting evolution hearts early game
>spend 20 minutes reading pet evolutions on the wiki
>getting evolutions hearts 300 hours later
>too lazy to even pick it up
>>14832788
>>14832803
not him, but why's pickpocketing so important for pets?
>>14833546
pets get gold on kills
gold -> potential
Ok, That a minimum of 3131 damage on my snails, and they have 3200~ so one-two shots worth of staying power.
I... I think i'll leave him alone. Yes. I'm magnanimous like that.
>>14833200
>As for the scissors it's not a silver bullet for gardening. What it does is it insures replant but does not protect said plant from withering while it's growing. Helpful yes, but I hope people are not thinking that by having the scissors all their problems will go away with herb farming.
Does gardening cap? I have 539 and I still get 1-3 dead herbs per field.
>>14833597
Amurdad also has low-health super-regen and is the hardest demigod to kill if you don't have a counterstrategy
>>14833618
>A random value between 0-19 is 0 (5% chance).
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Gardening#Chance_for_Withering
Regrowth can be assured with the scissor and planting of field tiles, but withering have that irreducible 5% chance.
This is why you should not focus on statues but on the gemstone, though getting some help to expand your farms faster and of course to stay sane before the scissors.
>>14833618
Not sure but yeah I get dead plants too at 700+ or 800+ skill. Not at my computer with Elona to check at the moment but it's high. I don't really plant in the rain as I should because of I want my stuff as early as possible. More than 5 dead plants I start using gemstones to get it down to 5 but If it's just 5 or less I just ignore the dead plants and continue on with my harvesting.
Living statue of Yacatect, report on superregen ?
Its 50 stamina cost seems to mean it can be activated once every 6 turns and as it last 20 turns...
Is that the case ?
Have you tried element scar to see if the regen is blocked on pets ?
Is a meshera pet as awesome as it seems on paper ?
What does kneaded sweet of witch do? I finally managed to get a deck
>>14833597
Those eyes. That expression. Amurdad has seen some shit. Anyone else reading his name as "Am your dad"?
>>14833764
I believe it Dims the target. Keep it in your inventory and throw when in danger.
It may save your life like it saved mine.
>>14833514
No.
Do pets receive casting penalties with medium/heavy armor and dual wielding?
Only 7999.
>>14833843
No.
Weird how the my little girl lagged behind the exile and had to settle for leftover enemies, and then totally reversed their positions after learning decapitation.
Now she's running around lopping heads off and dealing 6-figure damage while the exile and I are still dealing 1-2k.
>>14833905
They have 95% for all spells like all npcs? Thanks.
>>14833919
Make it nothing personnel and give her shadow step.
Well that was way easier than expected.
>this yellow water
>this people inside
>>14834033
Indians?
>>14833708
Just go for Amurdad so you can suck the dick of the avatar of Kumiromi.
>tfw Jure will never give you a good night kiss
>>14834091
That even more insane INI score though.
>>14834199
Not him, but god recruiting penalty?
does anyone know what the uncontrollable power feat does? nothing on the wiki for it. i tried taking it and it just says i have some hidden power or some bullshit
>>14834228
Gives you Run Wildry special action.
My pro-jet won't cook breakfast or craft items for me. She's the only other pet in the party, she has the skill, she doesn't have a pleasant sleep blanket and I'm waking up between 4 and 9 am. Am I doing something wrong?
>>14834269
She need to be in your field of view when waking up.
Don't sleep near corners or while monsters are still around for example. Keeping her on a leash should suffice.
>>14834216
Not him but his INI score will be reduced to around 1700/150 I think. That's pretty bad. Wonder what Meshera has.
>>14834269
Without love, it cannot be sewn.
>>14834269
Does she have high enough affection level? Fellow or above?
>>14834091
Meshera only needs level 65 while Amurdad needs 125, to be copied.I'm 51 so Amurdad would be a long way to go for no solid reason.
Besides, Meshera's sprite is so much better, in my humble opinion !
>>14834199
>>14834216
>>14834286
She'll be, after reducing her life to 2 and being soul spindled, at an INI of 444/50.
I'll make her the cook for my Hands and me, i like to think we'll feast on her ever regenerating flesh. Don't look at me funny, she's devouring her flesh too since she'll get the bonus.
>>14834283
It's not that either, I've used a leash on her and she is in my field of view when I wake up. Tested in town and on the world map.
>>14834332
Like >>14834290 >>14834303 said, cooking needs a relationship level of Fellow, and crafting needs Love.
Sorry about that.
>>14834290
>>14834303
Oh, forgot about that. Thanks anons.
Wait, you can soul spindle then retrieve pets on the same character? Does the soul spindled pet get used up?
>>14834327
I see that his avatar also gets confused with being a girl.Do forbidden meats work on the gods and I guess demi gods?
>>14834352
No, not the same character.
I tried, it's certain.
You need to make a gene.
>>14834356
You'd need to use two if i remember correctly, from male to trans-female to female, but there's no reason it wouldn't work.
>tfw got a Gold Bell from a scroll of ally
What should I do with it?
>>14834469
Putting a machine gun on it seems to be popular.
>>14834469
Give it a claymore and melee ai.
>>14834477
>>14834478
I'm getting mixed messages here.
>>14834485
Ranged if you want it to play the game for you
Melee if you want to have a berserker that kills fast and dies faster.
>>14834494
Is some sort of mega caster possible? Offensive or Defensive.
>>14834498
With some effort, I think it'd be alright. But making a caster pet with that little learning and only being level 11 yourself is probably more effort than it's worth, for now. There are much faster and easier ways to get a decent caster.
>>14834514
I don't think my gold bell enjoys life either way.
>>14834517
forgot picture
>>14834522
There can be only one.
Does a zombie created from necromancy level up when the player's anatomy increases? Or do I have to re-make another zombie from scratch?
Are god pets safe to use for Gene Engineering? You can earn another one by leaving your god and re-joining, right?
>>14834370
So I can get a female Lin-err female Kumiromi. Nice.
>>14834593
No. You can't get duplicate god pets.
>>14833200
>So in Akeno's case she has two so would she get two extra attacks?
I dualwield two staves and sometimes get three hits with one attack.
>I don't think ammo can be used in the artifact fusion process.
Good to know.
>>14834593
As long as the first one isn't in your party anymore, yes. I did it before on an older character. I gave Exile a second pair of legs by mistake and got another one after reconverting to Itzpalt and praying.
>>14834578
To answer my own question, it looks like they do.
What's the best way to get sox?
I wonder if its better a necromancer than a pet user.
For now I think my undead are doing an on-par job with my pets, however pets have the advantage of gene engineer, while, for now, only my liches have control magic via necro remodel.
>>14834678
pickpocketing enemies that carry them
iirc diabolic clown and thief guild member are the most common
>>14834697
Give us periodic updates on how a necromancer character does. I'm interested to see if they're viable.
God damn it, Gold Bell
>>14834599
What about a female Opatos? Some people are into bodybuilder women, a female Opatos would be a great example of one.
>>14834861
Don't let them eat shit off the ground. There's a command for that when you [i]nteract with pets.
>>14834924
What?
What's it called?
I've only ever had a message telling them how to act while riding and even then the "don't eat shit on the ground" command makes the speed boost turn into a massive penalty.
>>14835057
Talk to the pet, then "Be patient with items at your feet". Don't remember if this option only appears at a certain intimacy level or not (I don't think so at least).
I'm fairly sure you can also use a Tamer's Whip on the pet to achieve the same effect.
Aight. I'm back with a character I plan to play for real. Hope I made a good choice with a pianist. Seems good. Made a lot of money using performance back in regular Elona using performance. I chose the bear for my starting pet because I think it's the best. It's strong and who doesn't think it's cool to have a bear mount? The rest are kinda weak. I remember the little girl being stupid and always dying and the cat and dog were even worse. Fucking girl kept on getting pregnant and her alien baby kept killing me. Or she would always fall in the fucking well.
>>14834754
Sure. With the latests updates from 1.55, necromancer playing its becoming more practical in my opinion. I expect more updates to come.
>>14835136
Okay, I've never seen that option before but if there's an item that can do it I'll look out for that.
Thanks.
>>14835147
Just so you know, performing was tweaked in elona+. NPCs won't throw stones at you unless performing is less than half their level so it's much easier early on, but it earns less money at high levels.
>>14835225
So that's why I found it a bit easier. So what's the best way to get money then?
I couldn't live with not knowing, so i tested two important things regarding the soul spindle after getting a little sister to get the gold of a dungeon and waiting in the puppy cave.
First, only ONE soul spindle per given NPC. No multiple copy of one, sadly. I used two soul spindle on the same little sister, and only the second was valid, the first acted as if it wasn't the right NPC ( and so effectively turn it useless as it's not empty anymore ). Gotta raise a second weakest snail, time to burn some more wells.
Second, yes, little sisters that have been copied CAN be turned for the quest. Due to the first rule, with dedication, we can predict that the maximum of little sister that can be passed to a gene is 200 ( max items you can have on you ), using multiple maps as only 15 pets are allowed at any one time ( good luck keeping track of which soul spindle is for which little sister ).
The stat reduction and INI recalculation worked as it's supposed to so nothing to report here.
>>14835353
Dungeon diving in late game.
Early to mid is still performing, whoring, cooking, fishing.
Trading was somewhat nerfed too. Can't move with overloaded cart, but it's probably still a nice income boost. Oh but now you can enlarge the cart with plats instead of medals. Never bothered with it myself.
>>14835527
Can you dye soul spindles?
And are you going to do the same for a bell?
>>14835549
Nah, just the meshera.
I want to try snail the android rider, and see if he got the carmour bit enabled, but level 350 and so require 175 to be copied... No thanks.
Meshera don't really break the theme anyway, the mucus of death subduing Meshera itself into submission is logical.
Where should I put my farm?
>>14835607
I put mine next to the north-south border. easily reachable with Return, nice open area to spam buildings.
>>14835607
if you put it near luminest, you will almost always get rain by the time you walk to it (since it'll snow on the way)
that's if you believe there's a rain bonus, otherwise it doesn't matter
What should I be spending my skill points on? I am level 13, and haven't spent a single one.
>>14835607
>>14835625
>>14835636
>>14835725
Is there any way to move it once I've placed it?
>>14835730
Nope, you can only build a new one to replace the current location.
>>14835733
Speaking of farms, how's the best way to make money gardening? What should I do with all my produce?
If you're out of tokens of friendship and want to quickly raise the affection of an adventurer you can hire them and give them doomed engagment jewelry, then take it back by trading with them by giving them something relatively cheap since you're asking for a doomed equip, rinse and repeat.
>>14835743
You don't really make money out of gardening, what you're looking for is to have a good source of food.
Anyone have any weapon recommendations for a midgame claymore?
I feel like I'm slowly decaying in terms of combat efficiency.
>>14835715
It's usually best to save it for when your skills are really high and take a lot of plat to train, that way you can keep the potentials high for lower cost. Of course, if you find that you need a few quick levels, you could spend them to get that. I know at least one anon is putting them all into travelling and gardening to hit the level 188 soft cap (I think?) as soon as possible and to maximize herb and skill gains.
What are some good goals to aim for to get me on the right track as a fairly new player? I'm level 11, and am feeling really aimless. I've mostly just been going from town to town doing quests and trying to get all of the skills.
>>14835760
pick up magic and train the buffs.
you're gonna have to do it sooner or later. sooner is less painful.
>>14835799
Complete the main quests
>>14835799
1. gather enough medals to get the shield tonfa.
2. find a good riding pet. it's faster than barefoot and will be for a long time if you swap it out for bigger and better things consistently.
3. grind up some combat skills. pick one of melee, ranged or magic, and just grind the skill up.
4. do some crafting.
5. butter up to the adventurers. they visit your house and give you gifts.
6. pick a god. get your faith high enough to get all the gifts. switch. rinse and repeat until you've got the whole set.
7. train up a pet. popular choices include little girls and bells.
>>14835799
escape the Hopeless potential pit ranks pretty high every time I play
Arg, this is so frustrating.
I seem to have hit my equilibrium point at almost 4 farms full of herb plants, at the rythme i'm getting herb seeds from quests.
Curse you Amurdad, why must you be so powerful. It's almost like you're supposed to be a reward for our efforts and not something anyone is entitled to. Nonsense !
>>14835946
You think maybe Ehekatl can kill Amurdad with Mewmewmew? You'll probably die a lot pissing her off, but it might be worth it if you get those scissors early
>>14836011
I do have some stock of wish from when i was spamming scrolls of wonder and not stockpiling them.
But 1% cast.
So. Yeah. I'm not the luckiest person in the world, but even the luckiest probably can't beat those odds.
I guess there's savescumming. Should i ?
>>14836033
Go ahead.
>>14836046
Lucky, got a wish after 20~ try.
Now, is the time to die. Again, and again, and again.
12 deaths...
Ok, i'll try to give her alcohol and hope she start a brawl with him at each visit now.
The power cut out while I was playing and now my save won't load.
It gives me the following messages
"Updating your save file from Ver.0 now"
"Please exit the current area and enter the world map once to update game data"
"To update your game, please save your game in a town in the previous version and then retry"
Is there anyway to save my character or am I fucked.
>>14836176
Travel back in time and tell yourself to regularly make backups.
Got her to use mewmewmew, it did only 99999 damage...
Everything is dead except amurdad ! arg.
Doesn't help that she's teleporting everywhere, can't just trap her with him and get them drunk until they get hostile to one another.
Is she supposed to teleport by the way, or if she wearing cursed equipment ?
>>14836236
Ok, after a scroll of vaish curse she stop with the teleporting.
Now, to buy alcohol and organise a brawl.
>>14836278
Ok, the brawl degenerate to a full-blown fight relatively easily when they're trapped.
Problem : now that i don't want her to do it, she's spamming mewmewmew, killing me.
When i come back, they're at peace, and probably at full health.
It's ugly, but i'm going to savescum this fight, turn by turn, until he's dead.
>>14836323
Contingency scrolls + savescum
>>14836399
That was my idea yeah after encountering a turn where she insisted on casting mewmewmew.
Savescumming is hard work ! It's fun though, pushing Gods into drunken brawls. I will never do it again though.
>>14836409
Finally...
So, unsurprisingly, it turns out Superregen is powerful : Ehekatl just couldn't give the killing blow.
The god inside ehekatl one shotted him though. And me.
Thankfully, the death happened at an edge, so i have been able to lure her at one edge and come back from the other. Didn't even had to savescum to get to the loot and go away ! Was afraid the area would reset, rendering everything pointless. Phew.
I can NEVER EVER come back, though. Not as long as She Who Lurks is here.
The land of the dead now truly deserves the title.
>>14836487
Wow, I guess I'll have to try the same once I get a portable wish
>>14836506
I thought it'd leave a bad aftertaste since it's savescuming, and heavy savescumming at that, but it was a great experience.
Definitely something to do at least once.
AND NOT ONE PLANT DIDN'T REGROW HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YES
... Sorry. Good night.
>>14836487
Haha congrats! Wasn't sure if that would work, maybe I should give it a shot then
>>14836487
By the way...are you the slime?
I want to make a new character, with no inherited gene. Catsister+Predator to be the punchan master? Maybe add Kukou in there to really win the World Martial Arts Tournament? Although I did just score an adamantium katana that replaced my rubinus spear I was using on my latest level 10 character. (nuthin perssonel, kid). I guess I just have commitment issues in this game, because I feel like I'm constantly squandering my level up points, and I'm not getting enough platinum for the skills quickly enough.
>>14836998
>I guess I just have commitment issues in this game, because I feel like I'm constantly squandering my level up points, and I'm not getting enough platinum for the skills quickly enough.
This can be fixed though, there's nothing you can really fuckup for good since there's no real class system.
Starting as Catsister could be troublesome instead, because once you start using AP the high speed you start at will make it harder to gain them.
>>14837014
Fug. I guess it's a tradeoff for the starting leg up.
I kinda like all the extra options the extended race brings to the table. But really I've never gotten to the point where I need to know what AP is, or how to get it.
Where can I find npcs I downloaded from a user map?
>>14837023
AP are points that later on let you easily increase your speed up to 800 on top of other neat things like giving you lots of those usable points you get per level up etc.
Long story short the weakest you start as the easier to get AP is but just going for a normal character instead of something that will die several times at the very beginning is still good.
Speed is what influeces your INI the most. The speed value you'd like to start at should be around 130 at max I'd say.
Well, hello there. Have you seen my duel glove?
>>14833919
Is decapitation really that good? I'll have to try that.
>>14835607
I put my house, farm, and other stuff near Lumiest. You can get fast access to three magic npcs (one in your home) plus the mages guild. Also it's easy to make it rain being close to the snow as other anons have said.
>>14837295
Did you hit the speed cap?
>>14837301
Nah, I was just using some runes to see what crazy stuff the japanese werde doing. This guy has millions of herbs, potion of potential, descent, hermes, speed upper, multiple living godly weapons with all kinds of damage, soul spindle with God inside Ehekatl and Devastate Lulwy, etc.
Totally legit.
>>14833662
Should probably add that if I run out of gemstones to use then and only then, do I nip the dead plants and use herb seeds to replace to replace them. Again, bringing the dead plants down to 5 on each farm.
>>14835733
To make money from gardening you need to plant vegetables and fruit and harvest them. Then after that you cook said vegetables and fruit and you sell them to vendors. So you need to have good gardening and cooking skills. If you use fertilizer on your vegetables and fruits you can get + bonuses to them and the food you create. Those will sell for even more. Think you can make around 2k or even more in gold for each cooked food you sell in this way. So you can make around 130k or so for each farm.
>>14837317
Sorry, >>14835733 was meant for >>14835743
>>14837295
This is a hacked ring right? Cores don't let you get this high in speed due to artifact fusion limits.
Should I evolve the Exile straightaway or not?
>>14837406
No reason to wait.
Where can I find the move-list for Anna's Zeome?
>>14837406
Some people wait to evolve until they get their pet to 800 speed for efficiency reasons dealing with wanting to use AP first for speed. I personally didn't wait for this and just went ahead with the evolution though. If you don't care about min/maxing or at least min/maxing this aspect of the game then go ahead with evolving the Exile now.
>>14837406
Once you get to 800 speed,you can't increase it via AP anymore
50+ speed with the evolution is quite nice after you hit the limit, else prepare a lot of speed uppers and Hermes bloods
Even with Anna's AI, this was a massacre.
I quaffed blessed restore body's and sprits for ~10-15% of my stats. You could win this fight easily without the quaffs.
>>14835838
How does one do this?
>>14837719
Teach your main pet cooking. Hoard any and every potion of potential you come across, mix five or six with a blessed water, quaff.
Is there an updated version of the monster girl spritesheet that works with 1.55? The one in the pastebin doesn't work.
>>14837804
Not an MG sheet but if you're having problems then edit this one?
Are enemies spawned in dungeons with a set gender? I want a Female Murder knight but I keep getting Male ones...
So I bought my first farm. Gardening is at 73. What should I plant first? Play it safe and go with fruits and vegetables or can I already start with herbs, gems and magical seeds?
>>14837840
I planted herbs at level 26. No issues. Where can I find books of resurrection for the forbidden meats?
>>14837836
Yes, it seems that the unique NPCs have set genders. I've tried giving blessed forbidden meat to my Pascal, but it is forever a male, even after talking to it.
>>14837869
Objection.
>>14837869
>>14837876
Unlimited save-scum works!
>>14837840
What's your gardening? If it's not that high stay with vegetables and fruits to build up your skill. If your gardening is too weak you'll have tons of your herb plants wither away and you'll be just wasting those seeds.
>>14837882
Not even save-scummed. The first encounter and it was a female one. Not that it really matters. She just takes up space in the list since I don't use her.
>>14837886
>Gardening is at 73
You alright there?
>>14837891
I'd raise your gardening skill and just save your herb seeds for now. Try aiming for 200 gardening.
>>14837891
I meant that I could save scum for a female MK. I only ride Pascal. I'm not sure what's worse desu, the fact that even after 15+ quickloads I've only gotten male or that he is powerful enough to rival my other two pets that I actually give a shit about. Fuck this shit actually. I'll just get the Pro-Jet later.
>>14837900
Slimegirl please. My highest skill is in meditation and I use that all the time as a wizard.
>>14837900
I mean it's 144 in meditation. How long did it take you to get gardening to 200?
>>14836176
same thing happened to me. messing around with the character position in the game files almost worked but failed in the end. I just ended up restarting
>>14837912
>>14837928
Not Slimegirl. I'm Kai. I don't recall it being that difficult. If you use your plat to stay at 400 potential and just harvest tons of vegetables and fruits the skill will raise easily. If you want to hurry it along you can also dump your level up bonus points into the skill. Anyhow, let me clarify. If you don't have enough gardening you'll see wither and your replant chance will lower. A gardening of 214 lets you pretty much plant any kind of seed and have the maximum chance of replant and less withering which is why I suggest 200. With herb seeds you will need a gardening between 20 to 213 to get the best replant chances. If you are planting on field tiles and during the rain then you can get by with much less. To guard against withering you need to have a gardening of at least 15 or as high as high as 105 but even then you'll still get some. You can read more about it in the gardening wiki.
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Gardening
Tips on killing Jure and her 2nd form? I wanna see if i can do it.
>>14838132
And the grind continues. Time to get PP.
>>14838132
Sorry, add one to the maximum values.
>>14838136
I think I used silence on her. You'll need to have it leveled up pretty well to stick and even then the duration of it is going to be cut down due to how hexes work on boss like or very strong creatures. It should help you out though.
What's the easiest way to bless items?
>>14838241
You'll need a bottle of water. Dirty water will not work I think. You then drop the bottle of water on the altar of the god you're worshiping. That should bless the bottle of water. Then you mix the bottle of water with whatever you want to bless. Think the command is shift b.
>>14836197
>>14838079
I was hoping for Anna to have a magical saving technique. Looks like I'm back at square one.
>>14837804
None of the sheets will work unless you open them in paint, do 'save as', and save it in the graphics folder as a 24 point .bmp
>>14837876
Are those two allys on the top cNPCs? If so throw the files for download please
Anyone have the anti-eyesore .bmp? The link in the pastebin is dead.
>>14838152
To add to what Kai has said, higher gardening may also lead to finding more of the rarer herbs you will need for the herb in recipe. At least that's what it feels like for me and a guy in the wiki also seems to testify to that as well.
>>14836176
Wait why would the power turning off fuck up your save?
>>14838442
Not that anon, but it's possible the power cut out when the game was doing an auto save and things got corrupted in the process.
Level 10 here. What a good riding pet to get?
>>14838452
You could try getting the Kaneda Bike from the Festival of Jure. You'll need three blue capsule drags which you can get from fighting Rogue Bosses.
>>14838457
Is there any feasible way to farm rogue bosses?
>>14838462
fill up your cargo and walk around a lot?
>>14838462
Load up on cargo and walk around on the world map. You'll be sort of slow though so your pet will need to be able kill them. Or you could just drop the cargo and pick it up after you win the fight.
>>14837891
My fault anon. I need to learn how to read apparently. I see Kai already beat me to answering you though.
>>14838442
>>14838450
I don't know why, I wasn't in a autosave position when it cut out, that's why its so frustrating that it still corrupted my save.
>>14838132
Where do you go from here? What do you get when you have everything?
>>14837477
>>14837433
The basic things I did with Zeome was making him buff himself (all in one turn), gave him shadowstep, made him teleport out of range when low on hp/mp, gave him natural MP recovery, and made him debuff the player with nightmare.
His stats are unchanged though. So, essentially, if you were going to trounce him to begin with, then you still will even with his customized AI routine. But if it was going to be a tough fight before, it should be more difficult.
>>14838610
I haven't really done much of the Lost Irva story related stuff and I'm waiting for more content to come out before I sweep through it so there's that. My current plan is to get as far in the void as I can. I want to be able to kill all the enemies in the game at their attribute and skill caps to say I'm the strongest in all of Tyris/Irva. I also heard from someone saying that they managed to reach the bottom floor of the void at level 6666 when he was playing around with wizard mode. Don't know if he's lying about it but the idea of a bottom floor to the void is the stuff adventuring legend/myth.
In my goal of reaching the deepest levels of the void I have decided to focus on creating a pet army/harem and that has kept me busy. Also through pets, I get to experiment with different builds. Instead of rerolling my character I can just fulfill my desire of testing out a mutant through a mutant pet or a more recent example dual wielding. Through different pet builds I can also test various questions I've had such as which is stronger, two hand or dual wield. My current theory is two hand is stronger unless said dual wielder is running with more than two hands but who knows. I I could be wrong and I'll find that out.
Then there's furnishing my character's house with all the cool things I've found. Since I have a palace this is going to take a long time.
As for my character I'm leveling magic device, firearm, and my spells. I'm interested in seeing how powerful each of these methods of attacks are.
There's also that one anon who is looking into a necromancy character and that intrigues me as well. I may want to get into that later. So yeah, I have things to do in the game and since the game constantly gets updated there might be more things to do in the future as well. I probably keep coming back to Elona because I can fit this game on a flash/thumb drive and play it anywhere and if you don't really want to actually play the game but grind you can easily do it while listening to a documentary at the same time or watching TV.
>>14838662
It's also important to note that Ano's updates power up players much faster than Noa did in standard Elona, and Zeome is at one of those gameplay points where you can really take advantage of stuff like herbed herbs, sp abilities and the spellcasting boost.
I'm trying to recruit a servant for my home and it says I have the maximum amount even though I don't.
What gives?
Do shopkeepers count towards your house's servants or something even though different location?
>>14839202
I believe visitors count, so if you've got an adventurer or trainer or something visiting your house you gotta wait til they leave.
But this also means you won't be getting any more visitors if you hire another vendor.
>>14839343
That can't be true, I had visitors when I had a full roster of servants before I fired one of them.
Completely new to the game, playing as a gunner/bandit. After a few hours of dying to god knows what, check out the wiki for a few tips. I'm looking at the firearms list and set off to get the nearest, most achievable 'unique' firearm - Winchester Premium.
Spent hours getting that faith and favor up, even got a gynoid gunner assist. Finally, after sacrificing countless weapons Mani gives me the prize, the shotgun of my dreams. Head to Vernis and pump it to +10, extremely pleased I head out to do some dungeon delving. On the way I meet up with a random merchant who sells me an adamantium machine gun for 20kish.
Winchester Premium - 8d9+2
adamantium machine gun - 10d6+2
I do a bit more research and conclude fuck you my Lord, the sheer ranged damage modifier for the machine gun outclasses the shotgun by oh god why.
>>14839612
>winchester 11-74 at point blank for maximum damage + piercing
>machine gun 8-62 at 1-2 tiles away for maximum damage
What are you talking about?
Just stand next to the monster and fire away.
>>14839653
I was referring to the range modifier from the in-game help. The machine gun has up to 7 tiles of range, whereas the shotgun has up to 3. I just gave it (the shotgun) to my gynoid since she's still quite confused as to whether she's melee or range, where I'd be the standing f turret.
>>14838342
>Are those two allys on the top cNPCs?
Nah. Exile and fully evolved dragon child. I just changed sprites.
>>14839612
I found a godly platinum shotgun with the draw shadow invoke. It's pretty nice. Every second or third shot teleports the enemy right next to me like I'm a cluster bomb rock or a hand of the dead. Just a shame that as a wizard I want my enemies to stay away from me.
>>14839612
Does said machinegun have some better misc. attributes than Mani's boomstick?
>>14839676
Okay but just don't shoot the gun from far away?
I mean if you want to be a distance gunner sure, winchester is not for you but if you only care about damage then there's nothing wrong with it.
>>14839713
Stats by stats, no, but performance wise, I can start firing as soon as I spot the enemy.
>>14839743
That's it, if a heavy melee gets close I either try to burst him quickly with Zero Shot, or use a teleportation scroll. I'm pretty much happy just shooting things down from my corner here.
>>14839751
You should use darkness arrow then fuck them up.
I want to start farming the void sans pets but all my buffs except for holy shield are <level 50 and with the exception of Ice Ball so too are all my element spells. [MAA-JI-KUU DAAA-TOOO]
How can I level them quickly so I can use stop spamming a single fucking spell?
How do you optimize living weapons' damage again? Just maxxx out on magic damage? I'm really hoping investing in this will produce something significantly better than the N97 or Rainbow. And how's the bloodsucking? Free healing training or a serious inconvenience?
>>14839775
If you have any weapons that invoke mist of silence, you can silence yourself by targetting yourself with Bakuretuken, and then when you cast the spell it'll fail and there won't be any casting animation, but you'll still get experience from it. I believe you'll be able to cast it as fast as you can Oracle, although you'll need to reapply silence every now and then.
>>14839775
Most important thing is to set anime_wait in config.txt to 0.
I've been using Opatos dumbell + training machine + Lulwy statues in Lumiest for some major stat grinding. This means that the turns are just flying by. I get sleepy REALLY quickly. Easy spell potential. You could just hold F3 or spend entire days resting.
>>14839776
Make sure to max enchant it, then fill it up with resistances/invokes from Irma before you start levelling it!
>>14839791
I just thought of another way to inflict silence on yourself, as long as you have custom.
Player Buff != Mist of Silence Mist of silence (preserve target)
There's no reason it shouldn't work, but it still needs testing.
Great idea by the way, the animation can be remove with config, but damaging spells doing no damage enables training from the safety and coziness of your home.
I finished building my home. I'm not completely satisfied with some rooms, but that's enough for now. Come check it out and tell me what you think. I've put a lot of time into it.
Like the guy who the sharing-homes-idea had said, drop the file in your user directory and load the map from the showhouse or use a rune.
https://jii.moe/Ekcwzr9ig.pum
>>14839841
Gorgeous/10
Would spend my vacation there.
>>14839914
Yay~
My Exile made a neck guard called {Superb Sex}, with increased chance to deliver critical hits. I think she's trying to tell me something.
>>14840007
noaneko.squares.net%elona.squares.net%
pops up when I go to load my save, the game then loads I assume fine but any idea what this is?
>>14840186
Nevermind I'm gonna make the assumption that that's the server and my connection is being shitty and not letting me connect.
>>14840190
Isn't the server dead?
>>14840186
I'd like to know this as well.
I got this yesterday and now it seems like it's gone. I'm still on 1.53, too.
What's the best scrolls to get spirit cloth ?
I blown 5 blessed superior material on a barbecue for nothing and i don't want to do it again without knowing for sure that's optimal.
>>14840322
Why do you want a spirit cloth barbecue?
>>14840347
It's the lightest without using flying scrolls.
>>14839928
Ehekatl truly is the bestest goddess. Before the updates Ehekatl was the only goddess to come forth when wished for. All the other gods snubbed the player. All she asked was that you would pet her on the head and rub her stomach while you got to ask her questions only the divine would have answers for. Just whatever you do, don't make her cry! Her wailing/meowing has destroyed nations.
The values on the furniture page for material seems to imply spirit cloth is is a low-high material, so maybe plain change material could be the answer, maybe blessed changed material or cursed superior material.
Hum.
>>14840629
Yep, plain change material got me a spirit cloth barbecue after three scrolls.
And they're common and cheap enough to be spammed, yay !
>>14840635
Aren't paper and cloth lighter than spirit cloth?
>>14840783
Oh, is it not possible to get paper and cloth furniture? My bad.
I thought only famous search got that window thing
>>14840798
The day of Mani's birth approaches.
For some reason Palmia's altar disappeared
How could that even happen?
>>14840917
Something set it on fire
What
>>14841040
Travelling gain is triggered after you walk at least 300 miles, which correspond to 75 tiles, on the world map.
You were almost at the threshold before leaving.
