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What're your guys' thoughts on the Iowa?
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>>14811515
I want to titfuck that jubbly cleavage. But then I feel that way about all busty boats, so...
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I'd rather a Clownpiece
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Decommission the shipbitch.
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>>14811515
I am inclined to love her because Iowa is my favorite real warship. She makes me want to grind back the money to afford another Iowa in World of Warships.
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Should have just made this design official.
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>>14814485
Sadly I doubt the devs even saw that shit.
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>>14814485
>chinkshit
>rigging with little detail
>nonexistent stoic American
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>>14814485
japan KC design at least tries to mimic certain ship parts/structures instead of just slapping on guns to a cosplayer
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I think it belongs in its containment thread
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>>14815773
This.
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Wow, did boatfuckers just jump in the Clownpiece wagon?
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It is an admiral, but thinks that it is really cool
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>>14815773
/thread
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is registration still closed? the tutorial said it would reopen on the 23rd but it's showing all servers full. can I get back to this screen later without having to set up a proxy and choose my name again?
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>>14815982
yeah, kancolle was the very first to make inanimate objects into cute girls
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What the fuck am I supposed to be using on Kitakami and Ooi? Midget sub and two torpedoes?
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It looks like pandering trash, honestly.

>>14815773
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>>14816447
that or 2 secondary guns with midget sub
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Explain this /jp/
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>>14817345
An intern at the Iowa museum is gonna have to google boatsluts.
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>>14817345
Wait..does this mean I won't be able to come on the USS Iowa? Thats not fair.
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>>14817345
This is disgusting.
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>>14817750
Because you're actually gay right huhuhuhu
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>>14817345
Cute!
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>>14811515
Reinforces my belief that Americunts are insecure asswipes who go apeshit when they see a patronizing image of their blind nationalism.
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>>14817854
Are people actually mad about Iowa or is this just a meme ?
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>>14817862
Just as much of a meme as FREEDOM

which is true
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>>14811515
USS Enterprise, when?
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>>14817854
Hundreds of thousands of Americans died on godforsaken rocks in the Pacific so that a bunch of social failures could jack off to sexy girl representations of American battleships in a historical whitewash of World War Two. Solid.

>>14817862
I'm mildly frustrated about it in the same way that I got frustrated about marriage-so-temporarily-designated and the first German ships. Less so because I've long since given up on the franchise being worth a shit.
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>>14824505
they died serving their country

they don't know or care about kancolle unless you believe in spooky ghosts
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>>14814485
disgusting
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>>14811515
Looks too much like a long haired Mutsu.
Doesn't speak purely english.
2/10
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>>14824589
Respecting the dead is an invaluable tool for pretending that life has meaning, most people don't feel like giving that one up.
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Slipknot
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Is anybody knows when the Kancolle original soundtrack vol 3 is purchased?
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>>14824875
there's a difference between respecting the dead and getting mad for them in their place. i don't see turning botes into cute girls as anything to get pissed off about. it's not like they are meant to be looked down upon to begin with and they don't try to belittle the accomplishments or sacrifices of anyone to begin with. at the very least, it's something to be expected from japan at this point with strike witches and half the sengoku/romance of the three kingdoms material that exists, so you could at least write it off as just a harmless culture quirk.

i guess if you feel like the game is whitewashing japan in wwii like the other anon said, you could see it that way, but I honestly see the game as the opposite of whitewash. after all, suicide tactics, one of the most famous "strategies" of the jpn in wwii is heavily penalized by the game and frowned upon by the community. maybe im looking too deep into it, but I don't think it's a coincidence that the proper way to play the game is the exact opposite of how the jpn went about wwii - that the whole victory-at-any-cost attitude the jpn had made them as big of inhuman monsters as people that would knowingly send girls off to die so they can stroke their egos.

i guess the whole shinkaiseikan = murica theory would come off on a bad note, but i guess iowa shits on that theroy now; if anything she promotes peace between countries, doesn't she? Or I guess how the maps reenact the campaigns of wwii, but honestly, what else would you expect them to do for the maps?



the gameplay is still fucking shit though, jesus fuck.
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I live in the state so I'm pretty glad we're finally becoming relevant.
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>>14824505
>a historical whitewash of World War Two.
Oh wait, Kancolle makes fun of Great Mariana Turkey Shoot. How can it is a whitewash?
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>>14811515
I guess she passes as generic slut.

Nothing special, but nothing much to complain about either.
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>>14826640
Yeah, man, I really disappointed when I first saw her fucking design.
I must admit, the Iowa designed by November is better.
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>>14826759
>>14815144
>>14814485

Chinks please go and stay go, his designs are terrible.
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>>14811515

Can't mess with success.
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Delicious bukkake porn of Iowa.

fap fap fap
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North Carolina-chan when?
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Does Iowa not have a voice clip for when she's sinking? I checked the wiki and she has lines for everything else except sinking. Is that on purpose? Because that would be pretty neat if it was on purpose.
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What is the motive? Looks like birds.
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My thoughts are that you Kancercolon MOTHERFUCKERS need to get the fuck out of the touhou board
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>>14830692
Hey now. Don't be so mad. We both got some shit. I mean you got shit murrica Clownpice, and we got shit murrica Iowa. So we should be friends. We have to be strong together in these hard times, not fight over small things. Like how some loli kanmusu are better than some big boob Gensokyo girls, and some loli Gensokyo girls are better than some big boob Kanmusu. You see, we are not that different you and I. We both like cute girls, and we should get together in order to make a new empire where cute girls are top prioriy. An empire where we can pat cute girls all night long and not worry about what other people think about us. A society where both kanmusu and Gensokyo girls are accepted on equal terms. So please. Join our kawaii girl empire. And get a free girl today!
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GOOD GOD
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Clownpiece knockoff
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>>14811515
I'm just glad she's both beautiful AND full of Democratic Spirit. Plus her dialogue makes me fangasm like all engrish should. Standout is "Weigh Anchor!"
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>>14815283
>>14826891
Fuck off.

>>14831996
>like Engrish should
NO.
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Do the enemies before the boss node change on last dance in E-3?
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>>14811515
Wish they had a more interesting design is all, but they gotta pander to Otaku to get their cash. Can't blame them TOO much.
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>>14811515
>not Jeanex

decommissioned
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>>14824931
the abyssals could still be the animated remains of ww2 era allies who want to get revenge.

kind of like ghost-possessed shipwrecks, destroyed bases and such.
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>>14833294
>liking November
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>>14833295
There's definitely that parallel, but the scope expands beyond just american ships from the impression I get at least. While some abyssals obviously correspond to american bases or ships and the like, a lot of other abyssals have a strong, intentional resemblance to japanese ships. CL Hime with Jintsuu is probably the most obvious one, DD Hime with Harusame has a pretty strong connection too, and the like. There's some other counterparts with more questionable parallels like CV Hime and CL Oni, but they're there.

My guess, at least, is that the abyssals in general are just the anger and regrets of the dead in general rising out of the sea for revenge against the world. The shitty anime kind of corroborates that theory too.That's more of an anti-war message than anything.
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>>14828887
I'm down with that. I could do without the hype train Iowa had though.
>>14811515
And you OP.
I started out disgusted. By her fans. It's a Japanese game and there is no reason that we (Americans) should expect the inclusion of our country in the game.
That said, I'm waiting to meet her myself before I make a final verdict, but she's certainly hot.
I showed her to my mechanic last night, he says; "Oh, big boobied bimbo huh?"
I said; "Yeah, pretty much par for the course for a battleship."

Actually, the would be interesting: a sexy, but modestly (perhaps even dfc) endowed BB.
It's not like they can't do it.
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>>14811515
She's okay, deserves to bullied.
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>>14831656
Shoulda made that extra upgrade with your screws
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Remove amerifats
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Hey kids
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>>14837194
youre not yodo
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It's about time some superior American ships were added. The Jap shit is alright i guess but since most of them are just rotting in the ocean without having done anything of note it's hard for me to care about them too much.
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>>14836059
she should be indian like her name
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>try to draw Novembers Iowa and the canon Iowa being lovey dovey
>cant fucking draw for shit
Here's some remnants
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>>14831656
Fuck off scrubs. I bet you don't have shinden kai and 5 big medals either. Just FUCK OFF
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>>14824931
>i guess if you feel like the game is whitewashing japan in wwii like the other anon said, you could see it that way, but I honestly see the game as the opposite of whitewash.
I feel as though it doesn't take the source material seriously, like they're just using it as a trivia mine. There's quite a lot about WWII that doesn't neatly boil down into a list of campaigns and their orders of battle but that's basically never touched on, including, well, the entire history of the Japanese Empire up until the evening before the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor.

Yeah, Japan does go all-out on playing with their own history, but a lot of franchises seem to execute things more elegantly than Kancolle does. For example, Touhou butchers both Japanese mythology and history left and right, but it also pays homage to it in a way that takes things seriously in-universe. Of course, there's lots of silly stuff out there, but I think I just don't pay as much attention to it. It doesn't help that WWII itself is fairly recent.

>maybe im looking too deep into it, but I don't think it's a coincidence that the proper way to play the game is the exact opposite of how the jpn went about wwii
Honestly, the one who's looking too deep into it is probably me. The way that the girls are treated in both official and doujin work is miles and far away removed from the way that any sailor or soldier was treated in Imperial Japan. But that in and of itself is weird due to the fact that it's just kind of written out of history. Take Iowa fighting alongside the IJN girls, for example - it's great, isn't it? But it's also weird. In some sense having the Axis fight the Allies is actually less weird than having the Axis and Allies team up because you don't have to ask where all the historical baggage went. (Yeah, yeah, alternate universe, future, there are no Axis or Allies in the Kancolleverse... but let's face it, it's just not convincing seeing as how the girls seem to know their own history.)

>the gameplay is still fucking shit though, jesus fuck.
Back in the day /jp/ called it an timer countdown simulator and it really hasn't gone too far from its roots.
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Still hoping to get Akizuki from the event. Grinding E-2 with not even a single good drop in sight. Please help me /jp/ magic
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Don't you crossboarders have a thread already?
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>>14846219
>I feel as though it doesn't take the source material seriously
Is this your first video game?
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Is she a les?
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http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv254283921

Nip has gone crazy, come eigo bomb him
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>>14846489
>Is this your first video game?
I mentioned one in the very post you responded to
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how do you play this game? you seriously have to register to DMM? what is that? Daddies Must Marry?
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>>14846564
Yes, that was my not-so-serious observation that anyone complaining a video game doesn't take historic material it draws from "seriously" either hasn't been paying attention or hasn't played a lot of games. So I guess you fall under the former.
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>>14815773
>containment thread
Kancollefags are not that autistic.
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>>14848728
>What is cagafag
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Iowa is fine, but when will Kancolle have black shipgirls?
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>>14846219
I don't think the writing should take more from history. It's true there's a lot more Japanese politics involved, but I don't think any of it's necessary. I think the game already executes the message it (perhaps unintentionally) sends very well, and the inclusion of more history would just muddle it up.

Every event you see shitty players say something like "I was on the last kill and I decided to take a risk for victory and advance when x was red, and she sunk. I'm sorry, I salute you for your sacrifice o7" or whatever. It's funny to me how dangerously close to warmongers they sound. maybe i'm giving them way too much credit, but accident or not, drawing a parallel between the leaders of the japanese empire, warmongers who were all too ready to sacrifice even their own people, to the shitty players of their own game who are all too ready to sacrifice their own girls is pretty clever, because it shows a lot of ordinary people aren't that far off from being like that. Discussing the history and political climate leading up to WWII or the reasons for the war would just obfuscate the responsibility currently placed on the player. Taking your example of Iowa, the reason I find the fact that she's working with the IJN girls okay is because even in real life, it wasn't the decision of the ships to fight, it was the people who told them to. She doesn't need that extra baggage because it diminishes the whole "sending innocent people off to die" thing if there was actual animosity between them, because now it's not just the fault of the commanders, the girls hate each other too.

again, I'm aware this is just a shitty browser game (the game is still a timer simulator, nevermind going far from their roots, it hasn't changed at all besides numbers being inflated.) and maybe I'm looking to deep, and I wouldn't be surprised if everything I said was just a giant coincidence.
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>>14816301
Holy shit it's that retarded 1 sub guy who won't read the wiki
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When will they make a USS Arizona-chan?
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>>14850073
When they add the Argentine navy.
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>>14845489
Canon Iowa is a dom, November's Iowa is a sub
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how do you play this game? i try to log in but it says it won't let me due to region.
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>>14851787
Read the wiki.
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>>14817345
Oh well.
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>>14848723
Kancolle isn't just a game, it's also a multimedia franchise featuring manga, novels, and an anime probably best left unmentioned. But just because it is first and foremost a game doesn't mean that it gets a free pass on story just because lots of other video games also have dumb stories.

>>14850193
>Every event you see shitty players say something like "I was on the last kill and I decided to take a risk for victory and advance when x was red, and she sunk. I'm sorry, I salute you for your sacrifice o7" or whatever.
Watching the casualty reports come in is actually kind of fun because they're living life on the edge and the sink lines would never get screentime otherwise. On the other hand, I don't really pay too much attention to other players and since I'm a safe and lazy player, my experience with sink lines mostly comes down to videos like "100 Sunk Shipgirls' Lines" set to tasteful music. Kancolle really is nice in that you can win all the prizes and get all the things without spending a cent on the game (unlike many other far shittier games), or even genuinely risking any of your girls if you do the right preparation, and I'm not going to complain about the "unwarlikeness" of what since you really should be able to play without sinking anyone.

>Discussing the history and political climate leading up to WWII or the reasons for the war would just obfuscate the responsibility currently placed on the player.
On the other hand, when I consider the Kancolle franchise as a whole I think more about non-game media, which is usually far more character-centric than the actual game itself (featuring "your fleet" and "your girls) and has actual room for narrative. At the end of the day I got pulled into the franchise by the premise and the promise of the story, the game itself just kind coming along for the ride. So when I'm making these criticisms I'm looking for interesting premises or depth-of-story, or barring that even potential hidden depth that fans can run away with if they want. (Cue again the Touhou comparison, not because I'm out to deliberately invoke a shitfight but because they are the two most prolific sources of Japanese fanwork over the last two years). I guess if you take your duties as admiral seriously, which I definitely don't, you might appreciate the whole war commander aspect a bit more.

>Taking your example of Iowa, the reason I find the fact that she's working with the IJN girls okay is because even in real life, it wasn't the decision of the ships to fight, it was the people who told them to. She doesn't need that extra baggage because it diminishes the whole "sending innocent people off to die" thing if there was actual animosity between them, because now it's not just the fault of the commanders, the girls hate each other too.
The fleet girls know about their history, so they should be allowed have opinions about them too - their captains, their sailors, the war, maybe even the Empire and the IJN. There are a lot of girls where it shows through in their history, girls who still carry around or are haunted by their past, off the top of my head Hiryuu and Hamakaze have it as a major driving force in their character. That's the kind of thing - the history that they carry from WWII - that sets Kantai Collection apart from any number of other cute fighting girl collection games. Sure, nobody should be beaten over the head with the fact that war is serious business because we all kind of know that already, but it's presented with what's almost an air of unreality.

Obviously people want to have fun, enjoy cute girls and play a game rather than sitting through depressing history lessons plastered over with cute girls, so all the fun stuff that Kancolle does like holidays and slice of life shenanigans does have its place... but the shadow of the "real war" seems to have been reduced to trivia. Sure, Iowa and say, Katori don't have to hate each other or even act stupid and awkward around each other just because one of them sank the other back in some other life (and Japanese and American veterans today have met and shaken hands just fine) but it really just seems like a lot of stuff that should be there is just being papered over.
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These fucking canoe cunts are 2 cute 4 me.
Is there a VN, manga or official media about this sluts?
Just marathoned the anime.
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>>14852096
There's a bunch of manga, some light novels, a bunch of official anthology collections and two drama CDs.

You should read the Fubuki 4koma and call it a day.
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Is this an official Kancolle thread?
Any info about android preregistration?
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>>14852334
No, that would be here: >>14846518

>>14852049
>I'm looking for interesting premises or depth-of-story, or barring that even potential hidden depth that fans can run away with if they want.

Different anon than the one you've been replying to here. I think you identified something important: that the fans can take the setting a whole lot further than the developers can. It goes without saying that
>but the shadow of the "real war" seems to have been reduced to trivia
is because the devs have to tread carefully with their game. It's far more safe (and therefore profitable) for them to keep WWII at an arms distance, despite the subject of the game. It avoids controversy and keeps everyone mostly satisfied. However, the door is still open for fans to push it to the limit, as evidenced by your picture and its associated story. They've wisely left the depth and shadow of the real war to the fandom, it's up to use (or at least the content producers) to explore the setting and the consequences as much as we want to.
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Pressing the lever while using api appears to not save
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>>14852049
I wasn't saying I don't want the girls themselves to have opinions about their histories, or that they shouldn't be allowed to interact in any negative way - after all, artists have been drawing some girls, like Kaga and Zuikaku at odds with each for ages now and the game even makes reference to it, and I wouldn't even mind if Katori or Iowa were awkward around each other, but I just don't understand how you would propose the writing take their relationship any more seriously in regards to their actual history without drastically altering the tone of the game. Making some reference to their history or regrets is fine, Yahagi is also another ship where that whole thing comes into play and it's part of why I like her so much. Even the story you posted about Ikazuchi does get reference in the game too, and I feel as though it was probably a guiding force in shaping Ikazuchi's character as a reliable person, but I really'd rather not have something like the darker aspects of that same story make it into the game itself, and things like the actual history of the Japanese Empire as you stated earlier would fit even less. How would you work something like imperialism or war crimes, or even survivor's guilt (which is already depicted in tons of doujin material) in without drastically changing the tone of the game? I can't see them taking things like suicide fighters any more seriously than a "No" from the girls, which they already do.

the above anon said that it's all touchy material, which is true, but even if it wasn't, I still wouldn't want it in the game. There's a time and place for things like that (like doujinshi), but I don't think the actual game is one of them. The reason I brought up my point/theory earlier about the game already taking an anti-war stance is because I don't think the game whitewashes anything about the war or the japanese empire. Yes, it certainly could go deeper, but what I meant by baggage earlier was that I'd really rather not have Hachi undergo an identity crisis because her crew members were war criminals.
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>>14852996
K
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Wonder if she can fire cruz missiles
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>>14817345
CUM
U
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Relatively new TTK here, what are the best main guns for the Kongou sisters? I got the 41cm from remodel, but I hear they have accuracy penalties.
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She'll fill you up with her sweet white cream.
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>>14855190
accuracy penalty is only for combined fleet
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>>14851899
This triggers me
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>>14852440
That pic is the stuff of pure nightmares.
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Is there somewhere that archives the final rank points for a month's top 100? Talking about the thing that can be viewed on the information thing below the game on the actual dmm page. It only goes back up to two months
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>>14811515
I don't want USN ships in this game. I don't even fucking know why. British, french etc. they would all be fine. But not USN.
She looks okay, but engrish pisses me off. I'm considering scrapping when I get depending on whether I find her tolerable once I get her.
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>>14857992
Stay tight.
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>>14868093
They were pretty big guns
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William D Porter when?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_William_D._Porter_(DD-579)
>Lieutenant Richard M. McCool, captain of the landing ship LCS(L)(3)-122, received the Medal of Honor in part for assisting in rescue of survivors of William D. Porter.

http://www.cracked.com/article_19637_the-5-craziest-war-stories-all-happened-same-ship.html

This was a clumsy ship
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What?
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Can't wait to cum inside Iowa hot pussy
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I thought enemy had been America
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>>14881607
They are but I guess the creator got scared when Kancolle got popular overseas

Wake island, Midway and Australia harbor are enemies so I don't know why they changed it when it was kinda obvious who the enemy was suppose to be?

Plus the Abyssal forces use inches and imperial measurements instead of metric measurements for their weapons
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>>14881468
You make America proud, son
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>Family tree has mostly been sailors

>Recently got hit by the Kancolle love-train

Truly this is my destiny, these destroyers are just 2 damn qt
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>>14881607
It's implied everyone is fighting the dark forces of the previous wars and shipgirls represent the good parts.

There's a yin yang thing going on.
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I really like her but at the same time I'm disappointed that the devs went full retard stereotype on her.

But oh well, I hope they do it better next time.
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Any chance vitafags will get Mighty Mo too?
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>>14862039
From what I've heard of her, she isn't as obnoxious as everyone makes her out to be. She speaks Engrish, and a lot of it, but she has a calmer voice than Kongou if that's any help.
Her personality isn't awful, a bit bland at worst. The only time she mentions her country is in her pokedex entry.
For as polarizing a girl as she is, I'd deem her pretty much harmless.
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>>14879343
Just X out if that if you get it. It's an inactivity message you get sometimes. If you say OK it logs you out of the game.
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>>14881607
If the enemy was america my naval base would have been nuked by now and my entire fleet would have been sunk by now.

Seeing as they are still intact I assume that my fleet is not fighting america.
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>>14881607
No. We have said over and over again that this is not the case.
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>>14886046

>not being a sailor too
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>>14899698
Well it's not a surprise considering some of the other foreign ships are stereotypes too.
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>>14881900
>>14881468
Has any other autist gone to the museum, or am I the only one
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>>14811534
I am in agreement with this anon. Most boatsluts are made for paizuri.
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>>14811515
Atago, but with a worse outfit.

Seriously, there's nothing else. It's all there: the massive boobs, long, flowing blonde hair, tall, the genki attitude...

You could literally swap the outfits around and say Atago was cosplaying. I guess at some point, you have to go creatively bankrupt on a game that revolves around dressing up boob monsters with ship paraphernalia.
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>Kashima got a white day line
>Katori didnt

ITS THE SAME FUCKING VA HOLY SHIT STOP PRETENDING KATORI DOESNT EXIST
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>>14910197
Sorry, she's Hiei-tier now.
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>>14816301
What browser is that?
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>>14857992
>triggers
>tumblr
>watermark
kill. yourself.
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I can scrap Kiyoshitter after the Rei-go quest right? God I want to be rid of this retard.
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>>14911267
Absolutely.
Yuugumo and Mutsuki class only exists for scrap.
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>>14911267
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24212974
(put it on repeat for maximum effect)

Also, is kancollev down for anyone else?
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>>14848739
>Who the fuck?
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>>14824931


More to the point, antropomorphizing their equipment into pretty girls is something that soldiers *themselves* do all the time. Just look at bomber noseart for instance.

If anything, this stuff would be right up their alley. Buy war bonds now!
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>>14925246
The true face of autism.
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>>14925720
Are you new on 4chan?
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so, how about those new landing craft and tank?
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Should've voted for Trump
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New to kancolle, what should I know reddit?
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>>14828228
hawt
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Let it go, man.
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>>14958538
Because fuck the system
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>got bored of properly playing
>only do exercises daily
>forget to do 1-5 and 2-5
>boot game up today thinking I should do them
>Level 79 with 100 EXP to level 80
>1-5 is now harder

I'm mad and don't feel like getting the medal anymore.
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>>14862039
Meh it's a much better voice than Bongos.
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>>14970220
True.
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>>14811515
When her character song CD single comes out, it had better include this song: (turn the volume up)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NFMHZi6PXk
Also, check out the skirt slits on their uniforms
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>tfw fell for the 3-5 south meme
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>>14985041
easy with jintsuu and 5 lv90+ DDs
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>>14875702
But she's already available, famerino.

She's even got her april fool's costume on.
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>>14875702
No the ships we will get are these two:

USS Heywood L. Edwards (DD-663) which later became named JDS Ariake (DD-183).
And USS Richard P. Leary (DD-664) which later became named JDS YĆ«gure (DD-184).

These were the two Fletcher class that were sold to Japan.

It will U-511 all over again.

Also explains why we will never get the last two destroyers of the Hatsuharu class not that anyone cares.
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>>14852440

>However, the door is still open for fans to push it to the limit, as evidenced by your picture and its associated story.

Yet only so little is done by fans. Is most fans only like to make cutesy, lovey-dovey, lewd stuff instead of something smart? KC is lacking that
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>>15008585
blame the fans
that's not KC's fault

fuck, blame yourself, instead of making "smart" fanwork, you're just whining
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>Do the most optimal Yamato recipe for LSC
>Get a 4:30:00 timer
It hurts to live.
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