Shrine maiden performing purification ritual
Baggy jeans have a purpose.
i want to be a shrine maiden
full time
>>14809604
But can she shoot needles and teleport?
they fact that they're all part-timers nowadays kind of diminishes the mystical aspect of it
>>14813644
Remember to donate to your local shrine, /jp/!
>>14813644
Before or after you found out?
>>14813644
Even in the remote villages? Is the loyal and devoted shrine maiden who loves her god more than anything just a myth?
>>14809604
>You will never have a miko purify your butt with a strapon
>>14809604
Sort of an interesting dichotomy there with modern West on the left clashing with traditional East on the right.
I don't think I've ever paid attention to what pants the Japanese were wearing- do they wear jeans much?
>>14814387
Yes. The world wears jeans.
>>14814365
Of course? Japanese spirituality is a complicated thing and more keyed to culture and superstition than outright faith.
>>14814365
Nips killed their gods, shrines and similars are nothing more that surperstitious "power spots". It's just tradition, or so I've been told to by the various Japs I've talked to.
>>14816329
>>14816406
That's really sad. Westernization was a cancer.
>>14816451
Shinto was only ever really a thing for the sake of making people worship the emperor and Japan itself around WW2 era anyway. All that's left nowadays is the "it's a symbol of being Japanese" aspect anyway. It's not like it's some ancient belief that was given up to suck the USA's dick or anything. They'd probably be Buddhists or something if not for WW2, westernization, or whatever.
>>14816451
Don't think too much about it.
Shinto was always a sort of organized animism - that is, all things have a sort of spiritual essence, and by paying homage to them through ritual you can appease the spirit and possibly get it to help you out later. This isn't like Christianity where your dedication to God is everything, that's a very Western-centric way to see it, rather your dedication to the rituals and paying the spirit their due is what matters. The feelings are unimportant, the actions are. If you want a western example of this, Hellenism in old Greece is a close analogue.
This is why Shinto has survived into the modern day and will likely continue to survive, because it was never about the dedication to an entity so much as it was a dedication to the ritual, and it didn't take long for the ritual to become associated with "being Japanese."
So a dutiful shrine maiden that knew the right words and incantations would be a valued thing, while a shrine maiden that simply believed in her God would not.
>>14816548
isn't japanese buddism a mix of traditional buddism and shinto？
>>14816603
>This isn't like Christianity where your dedication to God is everything, that's a very Western-centric way to see it, rather your dedication to the rituals and paying the spirit their due is what matters. The feelings are unimportant, the actions are.
This isn't even a "western" thing as much as it is a Protestant one. Catholicism, Orthodoxy and Judaism all put a lot more emphasis on actions rather than some abstract concept of "faith".
>>14817389
That's a dumb question. Every religion is influenced by older beliefs in the region, and tries to integrate them in some way.
When Christianity does it, it calls the local deities compatible with Christian teachings "saints", and the ones incompatible with them "demons".
The same thing happened with Buddhism in Japan, except then there was a nationalist movement in the 19th century which split off all the parts of Buddhism unique to Japan into a neopagan religion called Shinto.
>>14820049
>That's a dumb question
Why must you be so fucking RUDE
>>14817389
Yeah, but while people sometimes mention that as if it's unique to Japanese Buddhism, the accommodation of local traditions is literally the entire history of Buddhism after the Buddha's time. There isn't really such a thing as "traditional Buddhism", but of course there's a difference between doctrinal elaborations made to respond to the challenges of the day and pure superstition and misunderstanding.
What might be considered unique to the Japanese tradition is how it has been, for most of the time, either subservient to the state or antagonistic to it: it was introduced as a "state-protecting religion" the same way it was in many other countries but it was kept under that status for a long time in Japan, and when the government's grip relaxed many monastic establishments became mini-states armed to the teeth that had nothing to do with religious practice. When the ideal of saving all beings started moving with force, it did so under the wing of Pure Land Buddhism, and this Japanese "Amidism" eventually became something closer to Christianity than Buddhism. Then when Japan started westernizing, State Shinto was invented, Buddhism was repressed and broken (from both outside and inside religious circles) and again became subservient to the state, fueling propaganda during WW2. The farce of manufactured religion crumbled after the war, but the damage was done and neither pre-StateShinto Shinto, neither Buddhism really recovered yet. But since the entire world has been undergoing a spiritual crisis for decades, where the 2 available options seem to be extremism or fedora tipping (or just vaguely "being spiritual"), this isn't that surprising, though pretty sad for a country so attached to its traditions.
>>14822384
This is pretty spot on
>>14817389
To elaborate a key facet of Mahayana Buddhism, which became prevalent over original/foundational/traditional/Hinnayana Buddhism in 2 AD, is that one should spread Buddhism using "Upaya", or any means necessary, to get teachings through to the audience.
In essence, it encouraged monks to use a variety of tactics in their teachings, some which are fantastically recounted in the Sutras. This freedom in teaching methods made Mahayana a little more malleable and syncretic to local traditions. The mix and match of local and Buddhist traditions in Japan are the reasons why some Buddhist temple have Shinto shrines attached to them, and why the traditions have a sort of co-existence.
To draw a (relatively) western comparison, one can look to eastern Slavic traditions for a similar sort of syncretic religion: Amongst the Ukrainians, for example, the painting of Pysanky for eastern include motifs leftover from per-Christian times, leading some to believe the tradition started before the Christianization of Rus
>>14822518
Want to add that at the time the Mahayana emerged as a "movement", the Hinayana could no longer be called original, traditional or foundational Buddhism. It was separate from what we call "early Buddhism" today.
In fact it's not even really accurate to talk in these terms. Most Hinayana schools appeared before the Mahayana ones IIRC, but there's not that much of a difference in time. Mahayana schools appeared in the same way, but they later created the Mahayana-Hinayana distinction because they all followed roughly the same principle and were critical of the other schools. All of them, Mahayana or Hinayana, were elaborations over the oldest teachings.
Post more pictures of shrine maidens
>>14824871
Such a pic?
>>14824871
google 神楽舞
>>14824871
or google 巫女
how come none of them are showing their armpits
>>14824938
because they aren't as based as Reimu
>>14814386
just who
I was watching such a purification ritual at Fushimi Inari shrine last fall, but photography was forbidden. It was quite entrancing.
>>14825035
Is this an actual photo of Kourindou?
server-kun being ecchi sukecchi wan tacchi.
>>14825035
Me when I see a bad post on /jp/
>>14825222
I want to fug a miko
>>14825154
Is he.... BLESSING THEIR WAIFUS??!!!!
>>14825154
>>14825148
>>14825035
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-Uv5ZNk0RE
>>14825035
Not even 10 shrine maidens could purify my PC.
>>14825148
Still better than this
>>14825465
tfw kard. Dziwisz will never bless your waifu
I wonder what companies that make shrine maiden outfits are like. Do they have to make each one in a ritual fashion? Do robot arms swing those wands over the clothes as they go down the assembly line? Do they sell excesses to cosplayers?
Real shinto priests and shrine maiden
>>14829990
me on the right
>>14825320
This is amazing
>>14809604
What is she holding and why do you never see fictional shrine maidens using it?
>>14838967
The bells are called Suzu used mostly in Kagura dances, or purification ceremonies.
>>14840502
>The bells are called Bells
How informative.
Shrine maidens of Tagata-Jinja Shrine
>>14840656
woah so japaneese is just english with diffrent alphabet??
>>14814365
>Is the loyal and devoted shrine maiden who loves her god more than anything just a myth?
Anon, why do you think Sanae showed up in Gensokyo? Gensokyo, home of things that have died out in modern Japan.
>>14816451
>Westernization was a cancer.
It wasnt all bad, thanks to loving western stuff like cartoons we got anime.
>>14817389
I always thought Japanese Buddhism was strange.
Buddhism in general I understood, but Zen Buddhism I just didnt get. The books I read on it didnt talk about removing desires like others, but instead just sitting and going with your true nature or something. They called it Buddha nature.
Zen was confusing for me.
I guess this is the best thread to ask. Where can I learn about Shinto? How do you learn about Shinto?
It's an annoying religion due to the lack of pointing towards specific books andsaying thats the foundation. To learn about Christianity I could jsut read the Bible, but Shinto has no such things.
Buddhism had a bunch of scriptures, but I havent heard of any Shinto scriptures, making it much more annoying.
>>14825035
>>14825148
>>14825154
Now this is just silly.
>>14825465
This is silly too.
>>14840855
Shinto is just a bunch of small religions and rituals tied under a single name. Go read wikipedia.
>>14840876
Priest is probably thinking " No amount of praying and no sutra could ever hope to purify such an object"
>>14840855
>I always thought Japanese Buddhism was strange.
>Buddhism in general I understood, but Zen Buddhism I just didnt get. The books I read on it didnt talk about removing desires like others, but instead just sitting and going with your true nature or something. They called it Buddha nature.
>Zen was confusing for me
Zen is a Chinese thing, heavily rooted in Taoism. It's just that the Japanese name is better known.
>It's an annoying religion due to the lack of pointing towards specific books andsaying thats the foundation. To learn about Christianity I could jsut read the Bible, but Shinto has no such things. Buddhism had a bunch of scriptures, but I havent heard of any Shinto scriptures, making it much more annoying.
Shinto doesn't have any scriptures; the closest you'll find is the Kojiki and the Nihon Shoki. I mean, it's basically a term applied retroactively to mean "things believed by Japanese people".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinto
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/UsefulNotes/Shinto
http://k-amc.kokugakuin.ac.jp/DM/dbTop.do?class_name=col_eos
>>14841264
>Zen is a Chinese thing, heavily rooted in Taoism. It's just that the Japanese name is better known.
Makes more sense. I wasnt really a fan of Taosim either.
Sucks about them having no real scriptures. But the last site you linked looks helpful.
What qualifications makes one a shinto priest or whatever? Do they train apprentices or is it hereditary or is there some guild that trains them or what?
>>14825276
yeah, ldo
>>14813644
>part_timer
pic very related
>>14841264
Why not Miko and Byakuren join forces and form this Zen religion?
>>14841469
As much as Konata likes to joke about it, the shrine *is* owned by Kagami's family - it's something she was born into, even if she's not required to do it very often. I think they even imply that the Hiiragi sisters are more sensitive to the supernatural than other members of the cast.
>>14809604
I want to commit unholy things to a miko
>>14841478
Because Byakuren likes youkai and wants to live peacefully with them. WHile making bullshit excuses for their youkai acting like youkai and attacking humans.
Miko on the other hand see's youkai as a problem.
>>14841600
So basically different idealism of their leader, not the matter of the religion.
The only miko that matters
are shrine maidens allowed to be lewd?
>>14851538
Not if they're boys.
>>14813644
Some monks brew beer or make fancy cheeses to cover living a monastic life. Piety just doesnt pay the bills man.
>>14852500
But that's just a traditional thing that monks have done for centuries.
For east asians, religions are kinda cultural thing anyway.
>>14852500
Those things are not contradictory with monastic life at all.
>>14813644
Mystical.
>>14816603
well put
>>14852500
You can brew beer, make cheese, bake bread, cultivate, or work in general and still manage to be a decent human being, son.
>>14840830
Honen Matsuri at Tagata Jinja Shrine is held on March 15.
>>14816603
I personally see the Japanese as some sort of atheistic Catholics.
Where's the ARMPITS?
