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http://tenhou.net/0/?L7447
http://arcturus.su/wiki/Main_Page

Anyone up for some hanchans on MJ-NET?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xAN0H8Mm_hzVK5NbimIwqptD1bE370slaoTN--chmZk
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>>14784929
What's the lobby name on MJ-Net?
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>>14784936
JayPee
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3:0
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>>14784929
Use the updated guide

https://sites.google.com/site/mjnetguide/home
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>>14784929
2.0
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>>14785138
this again
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>>14785138
3.0
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>>14785320
3:0 in Tenhou. Was 2:0 in MJNet but that looks to have died.
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>>14785340
i will go there again to check
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>>14785340
back to 2/4
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>>14785489
Probably just the two of us there.
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>>14785340
If you guys are still there in an hour or so, I'll be there.
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>>14785499
I don't think a lot of people here have SM
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3/4 in MJNet
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>>14785616
Who the fuck wants to play with you? I bet you like some girl from some mecha show, you bleach-drinking queer.
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>>14785616
Who wants to play cards with you? Ugh.
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>>14785616
This again
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>>14784929
well, this was something different

also i was expecting toppusen only
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>>14785876
Yeah, luckily private hanchans are free
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>27000
>Winner
So there isn't a west?
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Were you expecting a west round?
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>3/4
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http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm17403632

Everyone in this series has terrible manners.
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>0:4
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>>14786200
I'd love to play with real tiles, but I'm in New Zealand and it seems no one really plays at all here.
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>>14786200
>daisangen kokushi double ron
my fucking sides
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>>14786291
Just come to Melbourne and I'll bother the scant people I know to come play.
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>>14786377
poor uni student ;-;
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>>14786200
I swear to God the flow was with me after watching that video.
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>>14786737
Did you start cheating too?
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>>14786747
No, but I bet I gained the supernatural power to force NoName into dealing into everything because that's what he did. It was just tsumos and him getting ronned even after he rq'd.
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>>14786747
>>14786765
Also started with a chiitoitsu iishanten hand which I ended up winning somehow so I probably cheated!
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>not having any pressure to win the last game

Feels so good.

Now, what should I buy first?
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>>14786914
Well, you get that gold in chips, not actual gold. So there's not much to buy except official mode plays. Or event plays. The one at the bottom gives free items for the 1st, 2nd, and 4th plays of 4 player and 3 player.
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>>14786922
>actual gold
You mean, I'd have to use real money? What a tease.
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>>14786960
If you wanted to play the gacha? Yes. You can still get some cosmetic items by playing official mode and completing a bingo card, though. Just make sure you equip an appropriate one before playing.
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>>14784929
3.0
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now i can die in peace.
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>>14787826
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>>14787826
Die? Not quite yet. There are some finer holy grails in life.
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>>14786365
And he got tile trolled so hard too.
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>three 3 dans in ippan lobby

have they no shame
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>>14789604
my bad, one is 2dan
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>>14789604
Poor little 7-kyuu.
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>>14789604
it mean they are doing badly in theirs lobby, it's your time to kick their ass
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>>14789604
Partial excuse on the 2-dan. But both 3-dan?

Aside from the 7-kyuu, they're practially playing a joukyuu game amongst themselves, at ippan rates. That's both a waste of time and sucks to the one who gets 4th (assuming the 7-kyuu survives).
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1:0
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>>14784929
0.4
damn, to late
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>>14784929
2.0
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>>14790691
make it 3.0
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>>14789612
>>14789615
>>14789641
>>14789698

I ended up dealing into a haneman and my comeback hand had me dealing in for game.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016021912gm-0009-0000-cbf94273&tw=3

More 3dan. Opponent overtaking my lead with two baiman in a row. I wish every game was this eventful.
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1:0

Every time!
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2:0
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It's fucking 3:0, get in already

Yes you
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>>14791151
but i wanted to sleep! it 5:45 am here!
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I haven't won a single match in all month.
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http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016021914gm-0009-0000-605563f9&tw=2

poor kamicha
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>>14791393
Nah, poor shimocha, ended up in 3rd place because some other guy couldn't stop dealing in.
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>>14791440
>shimocha
No, it's toimen in 3rd.
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I found out I perform better if I take breaks inbetween games when playing ranked. I used to jump all over the place but now my rank and R is steadily rising.
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>>14792107
I'll try that. I usually play 4-5 games in a row and by the end of the day my R is usually back where it started, or lower.
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>tfw only won 1 round out of 16
Statistics doesn't work on me, I guess
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016021921gm-0009-0000-f345c012&tw=3
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>>14793331
Sorry anon, but judging from that game I think your tile efficiency needs work.
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>>14793367
I know, I need some concrete examples
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>>14793376
>E1-1
You should discard 6p ASAP instead of 8p because you're looking for a pair, and 6p is both the dora indicator and more dangerous. This backfired when you drew 8p later. Then in the middle of betaori you kanned for no reason.

>E1-2
You broke up 13s by discarding the bird instead of 1m. The dragon tiles are also all more valuable to keep before 1m.

Later you discarded 4p from 3445p instead of the worthless 9m from 679m. 3445p is an extremely valuable shape because it's 34+45 and you didn't have a pair, so 23456p would all have improved your hand.

>E1-3
In general stop kanning unless you're near tenpai and losing badly because kans are risky. Your early 3p kan ruined a 13p + 333p shape.

etc.

Read all the articles on this blog, starting with these:
http://justanotherjapanesemahjongblog.blogspot.com/p/list-of-tile-efficiency-articles.html
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>>14793400
Are you the guy who was critiquing games several threads ago?
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>>14793418
I think there's someone else that does that a lot more often, so probably not. It's possible.

Mostly I respond to the "what would you do" stuff.
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Do you guys have tips for identifying ukeire/winning tiles when chinitsu? I've tried training with the bamboo game but I'm still too slow for the timer of Tenhou
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>>14793376
Concrete? Try abstract. Unless you happen to be defending, consider not breaking up "connected tiles" so early.

By "connected tiles", I'm talking about something like 7-8-9. Don't break things up like this - unless you have good reason to do so.
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>>14793491
There aren't really any tips or tricks to it, you just need to be able to recognise complex patterns. Keep playing the bamboo game until you get the hang of it.
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>>14793491
To speed up the process, locate potential pairs. From there, you may be able to string various groups of three tiles fairly quickly.
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Why the fuck would someone go for open tanyao if they're in last by more than 20k points? I was 2k away from first in S4, and then they drag me down to 3rd with their shitty useless hand that serves absolutely no purpose after I called riichi. Fuck him, and fuck this game.
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>>14793795
They probably just accepted the loss and wanted to move on.
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>>14793795
>Why the fuck would someone go for open tanyao if they're in last by more than 20k points?
Because he's a loser, who wanted the suffering to end.
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>>14793814
>>14793821
They should just betaori and not get in the way of the big girls.
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>>14794363
Do you betaori when you're in fourth with no chance of comeback in orasu? You probably do the same thing. I know it sucks to get a potential first stolen out from under you by a pointless hand, but that's going to happen a lot, so you might as well get used to it.
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>>14794392
I know, but every time it happens I can feel my blood pressure spike.
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>>14794392
I think I would rather wait for my chance, hoping for renchan, and/or try to inflate hands with random kans hoping that one player will lose enough points to end up 4th.
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>>14794392
there is always a chance in mahjong, you only need a yakuman
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>>14794442
Yea, it's that simple.
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>>14794716
Link to that replay?
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>>14794716
Suu An Kou, I'm betting.
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>>14794731
>>14794744
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016021914gm-0089-0000-c72df8a1&tw=3&ts=7

At this point, I didn't bother to take a shit riichi, especially with the points as they stand.
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>>14794969
Pic now included.
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>>14784929
2.0
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>>14795290
3.0
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>>14795325
darui
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this post legitimately hurt me
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>>14795865
I want to believe this is satire.
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>>14795873
Somehow, I doubt that.
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>>14795865
It's obviously a joke, get a life loser
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How is American mahjong? I have the urge to feel up tiles but I can't find anyone who plays riichi.
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>>14795919
You want to play with old ladies anon? You're better off trying to snipe weebs at conventions or something
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>>14795919
You're probably better off wandering into the local chinatown and playing hong kong jong, it's better too
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>>14795865
Anyone have those screenshots where he was baiting math phd?

The game may be biased against me, but I STILL hold rank 1.
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>>14795865
obvious joke,
source for the other 2 posts?
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>>14795935
http://mabination.com/threads/68440-Mahjong-Thread
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>>14795923
I can't blow $100 at the moment to play a couple of games of mahjong.

>>14795928
Better than American or riichi? And how so?
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>>14795949
Better than American. American is just a strange game with aspects that really don't belong anywhere near mahjong (Jokers, tile passing, etc).
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>>14795942
Yea, looks "real" enough to me.

That's the kind of stuff people would say, in order to make themselves appear better than they already do, in relation to the game.
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>>14796086
the other guy seems really triggered

also
>I have a 85% chance of landing 1st or 2nd with computers, and with actual players, about 66%.
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>>14795865
i will post the rest
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>>14796178
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>>14796184
and the last
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>>14795942
>>14796178
>>14796184
>>14796190
Interesting. You found "Flandre" in that thread. Y'can tell when he posted that whacko guide, that he wrote up.
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>>14796178
>>14796184
>>14796190
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>>14796274
10/10
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Can you tell if someone mostly plays mahjong online? I've heard pros talk about it being obvious once you play them in real life but they never explain further.
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>>14796288
I supposed the most obvious way is how they handle tiles.
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>>14796298
That was what I thought of as well, probably combined with them not playing like novices it would be obvious
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>>14796306
I scored a haneman tsumo for my first real hand ever. Ah, the memories.

But despite playing online and with computers for a year or two, basic game rule mechanics that computers handle for you -- well -- people have to do it themselves.
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>>14796359
How am I supposed to know I'm in tenpai if the delicious free sex button isn't there?
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>>14796359
Yeah building walls, figuring out the dead wall and stuff is probably a bit confusing at first. Also counting your hands points
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>>14784929
2.0
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1:4 again
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>>14796721
Make it 2:4.
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>>14796288
I'm guessing the style of play, since tenhou makes last place avoidance so central while real-life games have a much bigger incentive to be first.
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Fuck me, I leave for two seconds and the game already started. At least I didn't deal into a yakuman this time.
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>>14784929
3.0
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3:4
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>2:8
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Rough game lads
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>>14797450
>See this
>Go to 7447
>0:0
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>>14797689
>15 people in the lobby
>Still 1:0
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>>14797728
Cut me a break. I got rekt.
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First half of the finals is what, 11 hours from now?
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>>14797915
That's right.

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20160220T17&p0=1440&msg=4jan2016+Finals+A
http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20160227T17&p0=1440&msg=4jan2016+Finals+B
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>>14797940
Corak I'm rooting for you and your gyakuten skills.
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This game is full of cheaters!
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>>14798742
>6+8+4+10 = 28戦

Yea, this month can go fuck itself.
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>>14799088

You're exaggerating.
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>>14795865
That post was to bait Flandre(Chihaya) to reply.
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>>14799208
To get more posts like http://forums.playpark.net/index.php?/topic/192823-wow-game-must-be-butthurt-that-im-1/
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>>14799208
>>14796243
Who? Is he some sort of a namefag?
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>>14799246
Just some randomer who posts funny stuff

>A certain player dared to tell me to "chill" while playing a game, and I told him that he was an otaku that started mahjong from watching Saki too much, while I'm a mathematician who started playing mahjong for the thrill.
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>>14799254
Fun times.
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>>14799254
Is he nearly as good as he says?
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>>14799267
No
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>>14799267
He beat xkime in that one 7447 game he played.
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>>14799280
I want Nodoka to berate me like that.
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>>14797940
Three and a half hours. I need to sleep, but good luck to those playing.
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>>14799280
I beat xkime last night, what do I get? He beat me first that night, though. And yes, I'm talking about mahjong.
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First half of the final in one hour
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>>14800249
What final?
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>>14800446
You mean you didn't study?
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10 minutes to go. Head to 7446 if you're ready.
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>>14784929
TIME FOR THE FINALS
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First game of the finals has started!

http://tenhou.net/0/?wg=A147B19B
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>>14800499
good
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Time for Corak's gyakuten.
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RIP Corak.
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Come on Corak, you got this.
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>>14800599
He's just making sure his inevitable comeback is as impressive as possible.
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Okay here we go.
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>>14800607
It's already starting.
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Not bad at all Corak
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>>14784929
corak, you shouldn't have pon that
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First game results:

二階堂夢乃(+66.0)
UNIVERSE(+3.0)
Tu101uk(-18.0)
Corak(-51.0)
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UNIVERSE should have kanned that 5 man.
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>>14800662
I meant to damn it.
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>>14800662
I thought the same thing, the you can spell rinshan without risk
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Pls explain the joke.
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>>14800669
can't*
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>>14784929
WILL CORAK DO A COMEBACK?
WILL UNIVERSE PLAY THE PEI IN NORTH 4?
find out in the next episode of JP FINALS
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>>14800672
It's a suu ankou.
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>>14800672
It's a Suu An Kou tanki tsumo. Cirno is an idiot, though, so she thinks it's just tanyao.
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Game two has started!

http://tenhou.net/0/?wg=BEA7B86B
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Why didn't you Riichi, Corak? Why?!
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That's the way you do it. Balls of steel.
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It was nice knowing you, Tu101uk.
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>>14784929
good job universe
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Game two results:

UNIVERSE(+52.0)
Corak(+11.0)
二階堂夢乃(-17.0)
Tu101uk(-46.0)

Total scores so far:

UNIVERSE(+55.0)
二階堂夢乃(+49.0)
Corak( -40.0)
Tu101uk(-64.0)

The final two games will start the same time next week: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20160227T17&p0=1440&msg=4jan2016+Finals+B

Make sure to watch!
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>二階堂夢乃 keeps unnecessarily dealing into stupid shit
>no ura punish

Please play defense, you were way ahead from the first game.
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>>14800800
My lord, I'm glad you didn't. I shouldn't have kan'd that, but I was getting greedy and wanted another draw.
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>>14800827
>mfw, Corak can still come back from this
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>>14800800
playing the 9man was really bad here
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>>14784929
3.0
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This month is fucking crazy. Finally got enough R to stay in tokujou for a while. Any tips?
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>>14803303
Be more defensive.

Rule of thumb is your win rate should be 10% or more than your deal-in rate.
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who /shitter/ here?
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>>14805555
You're not alone, friend.
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>>14806001
>not at least -300
You don't know shit.
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>>14805555
>Caring about a new throw away account

Started the month 5+6+7+12
Managed to climb back to 13+16+11+16

This month started as complete shit, but I think I'm finally starting to learn how to play defense.
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How bad is this for my rank?
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up for a game?
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>>14805555
>副露率 .790

You've got to remember the pon palace doesn't work very much outside of 7447.
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Well, just dealt into a yakuman for the first time.

Bastard got into tenpai for daisangen by turn 6.
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>>14806408
It's probably that high from crutching on Yakuhai and Toitoi.

I'm gonna try just keeping my hand closed unless opening it gives me a decent path to win.
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I'm trying to teach mahjong to my pal, is there a way for me to play with him and 2 AI?
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I like Jap Mahjong.
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i hate this fucking kusoge.
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Play
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I downloaded the SEGA one and it won't let me play. I'm getting errors I think? Big red moon runes.
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>>14807803
Perhaps posting an image would help.
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>>14807811
Switched on Japanese locale, if that doesn't work I'll post one
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>>14807811
>>14807846
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>>14807854
type in your nickname.
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>>14807854
https://sites.google.com/site/mjnetguide/setup/registration
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>>14807854
You didn't input in a name.
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>>14807685
No, it's either him alone with AI; or just hope to get lucky playing against scrubs in 7447.

But who cares about winning. Just fucking play anyone.
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>4th 5 games in a row
>Most recent was me ronning into a daisangen in east 1
How do I stop playing this game?
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>>14809316
You can't because you're a filthy masochist.
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>>14809316
You learn to enjoy the anger.
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>>14807887
>>14807888
>>14807894
Ah, I didn't realise the grey text was a nickname field.
Thanks.
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What the heck?
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>>14809795
It appears he reached tenpai and riichi'd.
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>>14809795
>expecting defence play on joukyuu

I'm surprised that he hold it for a while.
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>play a game
>this one guy just keeps going for the really low plays

Kind of annoying when I'm slowly getting my yakus all set up and he just takes all my tiles and takes the win. :(
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>>14809959
>:(
Kill yourself.
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>>14809973
Thank you for reading my post.
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Help, I can't see my replays on the client.
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>>14809990
You'll get that error if you try to view the file too quickly after the match finished.
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>>14810014
I know, but it keeps happening even after I restarted the client 3-4 times. The direct link works fine on a browser.

It also happens for every replay, not just the most recent one.
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Everyone but me is lucky.
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>>14810111
That's what losers say.
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>>14810140
I just don't get the tiles, ya know?
Everyone else is taking my tiles.
My feet are cold, I can't play properly.
WTF the lighting in here sucks, I couldn't see what tile I had!
I thought we were on South still, I put down the wrong tile.
Can we swap spots? I think the guy to my right is cheating.
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>http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016022207gm-0089-0000-05588658&tw=3
>Be dealer
>win
Nice game.

>>14810111
The secret to get lucky is to lose. You need to deal into hands until you touch the deep sands of hell, after that you will start winning.
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>>14810166
lmao that deal-in rate.
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Sorry if this is a noob question but what does a grey tile when in the replay of Tenhou?
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>>14810363
It shows tsumogiri (discarding the drawn tile). It can be disabled.
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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1698069926/max-mahjong/

Did you guys know that muhjong is the facebook of the board gaming world?
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>>14810631
USA!
USA!
USA!
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>1sou is a gun
This can't get any more American.
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What does it mean?
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>For example, "Red dragon (中)", "Green dragon (发)", and "White dragon (白)"
>not even using the right character for the hatsu
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>>14810660
Just restart.
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>>14810660
It could find the group.
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>>14810631
>>14810643
Apparently the red diamond means "Safari." I don't get it.
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>>14810684
I'm American and I don't get it either. Would not buy.
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>>14810669
Still won't let me in

Is anyone on MJnet now?
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>>14810696
Server was inactive for so long that it was kill. I just started it back up.
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>>14810707
Ah I see. Got in now thanks
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>>14810696
I was on it. It usually gives me that when I don't watch the SEGA logo when it loads.
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I know this is probably an odd place to ask but I've tried looking but I couldn't find anything.

But is there a simple web-based offline or online mahjong game using Cantonese rules? And I do mean simple, not those elaborate create an account and then play with online currency or anything of that sort.
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>>14810777
Cantonese rules are subpar.
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Can I get loli commentary in MJ NET?
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>>14810651
MURRIKA FUCK YEAH
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>>14810631
first mahjong set starting at 95 $

yeah, no
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>>14810631
>it's like facebook of the gaming world

it's like he doesn't want to be faunded
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https://sites.google.com/site/mjnetguide/systems/leagues

Since the league group stuff rolled over tonight, I went ahead and added a page to the guide about it. There's also been a few additions over the week about item warehouses, member ranks, and some other things I may be forgetting.

As usual, if anyone has specific questions or requests for the guide, let me know.
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>3:0
Let's play some mahjong.
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>>14784929
2.4
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>play first 3p game ever
>get dealer baiman in the first round
>everyone gets mangan or higher every round until south 2
Now I know why everyone shits on 3p.
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>>14811361
Always relevant
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>needing three 1st's in a row now

Unfortunately, I lack Corak's comeback powers.
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>>14811361
That's because manzu, aside from 1 and 9, are removed. So, it's easy as fuck to form those "big hands".
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>>14811041
>if anyone has specific questions or requests for the guide
How do you start league play? I want in on this action.
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>>14810631
>>14810643
>>14810651
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>>14810631
>$137
>tile racks

Fuck that
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>>14809826
Yep. That is the condition called "muh tenpai", where the joy of attaining tenpai may end up ignoring any sort of defensive considerations.
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>>14810643
For example, "Red dragon (中)", "Green dragon (发)", and "White dragon (白)" in the traditional mahjong tiles embody Chinese people's simple desires for "progress", "getting rich", and "promotion". In our new version of Max Mahjong, they are replaced by "Safari", "White house", and "Statue of Liberty", to pay a tribute to the American spirits of adventure, equality, and freedom.
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