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Wiki:
EN: http://kancolle.wikia.com
EN: http://en.kancollewiki.net/wiki/Kancolle_Wiki
JP: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/

Recent Updates:
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Recent_Updates

KanColle STAFF Twitter:
https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF

Anon's guide to KanColle: http://pastebin.com/ec862KsG

Air Superiority Calculator: http://aircalc.net

Combat Mechanics:
JP: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%C0%EF%C6%AE%A4%CB%A4%C4%A4%A4%A4%C6
EN: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Combat

Fit gun for BBs:
http://i.imgur.com/nbLMrMk.png

Equipment upgrade values:
http://i.imgur.com/1JfCOmJ.png

Voices, Sprites, Furniture Preview: http://www51.atpages.jp/kancollev

KanColle Viewer (JP): https://github.com/Grabacr07/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (EN): https://github.com/Yuubari/KanColleViewer/releases
KanColle Viewer (KR): https://github.com/FreyYa/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (yuyuvn successor): https://github.com/gakada/KanColleViewer/releases

PS Vita Game was delayed to 18 February 2016: http://kancolle-vita.com
Dengeki Online article about the KanColle Kai trailer: http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/964/964096

News:
-Operation Rei-Go Winter event has started which has 2 main +1 EO maps, event ends February 26.
-New shipgirls are Okinami, Hatsuzuki, and Zara.
-Equipment for the event are the 203mm/53 Twin Gun Mount and the Ro.43 Reconnaissance Seaplane.
-For those who don't have Graf Zeppelin, Mizuho, Akitsushima, and Amagi, they reappear in the event.
-Valentine's Day season has started with Kinugasa, Harusame, Uzuki, and Yayoi CGs with returning sprites.
-According to KanColle Style published in Jan 2016, they're preparing for a bit new things for the second half of this year.
-The USN shipgirl is Iowa and will be implemented in the PS Vita's edition before her planned implementation in the browser game.
-There are plans to implement land-based aircraft and their famed pilots for the player side.
-There exists a plan to increase the variety of overseas ships in term of nationality and ship type.
-Iowa-class implementation to start sometime after Spring.
-Either Satsuki or Nagatsuki will get her kai 2 sometime this February.
-KanColle is still planned to add Android support in late February.
-KanColle Arcade has been delayed to Spring.
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>>14778078
the PSV game trophy list released. Iowa confirmed.
Kancolle android prereg announced
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The Vita game is a VN, right?
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>>14778078
>-There are plans to implement land-based aircraft and their famed pilots for the player side.
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>T red taiha
>T green taiha
>T red again taiha
>doukousen taiha
>T green taiha

sAVE ME.
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>>14778089

I wish it were
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I want to do an all-tomboy fleet for E-2 farming for the hell of it. So far I've got Miyuki, Satsuki, Arashi, and Maya. What CL is the most tomboy-ish, and who do I use to fill out the remaining ship?
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>>14778089
No, enjoy the Fubuki manga.
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>>14778089
Yeah, it's a dating sim. Non-H obviously but some nice fanservice CGs. Routes seem to be Fubuki, Kaga, Kongou, Nagato, Kashima, might be more. Some hidden routes are speculated too, Yamato, Iowa, and some Abyssal. Naka has a neat idol minigame mode.
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>>14778104
Kiso, Sendai, maybe Tenryuu and Nagara.
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Posting best ship
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What'svthe fastest way to get 50 transport kills?
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>>14778109
Fubuki's route has to be so boring, thanks Tanaka. What's Kongou's route like?
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>>14778124
Farm E2.
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>>14778119

she's just a cumdump.
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>>14778124

Spam 2-2 without CVs, AVs or CVLs while rotating 3 fleets. Use it to train ships while you are at it.
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>>14778124
Combine it with the world 4 weekly by going to 4-2.
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>>14778127
>Kancolle memes
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>>14778126
It seems that in most of the girl's routes you end up ringing them at some point, but TTK realizes his love for Kongou early on so it's mostly about married life around the base. Kongou's sisters have a hard time dealing with the fact that TTK actually took Kongou from them and they come up with plans to try to appeal to their sister and steal time with her away from the TTK.

Spoilers

Looks like the end of the route has her going out to sortie for something. I think in the good end she comes back and they show her pregnant with the TTK, and in the bad end the TTK ends up with Haruna but it looks like they're looking for Abyssal Kongou to bring her back or put her to rest or something.
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>>14778127
epic
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>>14778143
You don't like memes? Why are you on 4chan m8
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>>14778150
Man Haruna deserves better
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>>14777950
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>>14778127
Neither Prinz nor Graf exist.
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>>14778158
Cute.
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>>14778104
>>14778114
It's clearly Nagara
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>>14778078
>-There exists a plan to increase the variety of overseas ships in term of nationality and ship type.
Redundant line.
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>>14778084
Here's hoping she's a busty version of the fairy, cause she's adorable.
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>20k fuel
>109 buckets
Can I do hard mode?
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>>14778231
nope
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>>14778230

She'll be an even bigger tomboy than Maya
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Should I keep farming for a second Mizuho or should I switch to Okinami?
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November
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>>14778158
Looks like that one girl from Bleach.
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>>14778299
>second Mizuho

Why? You really think there's going to be an event where two maps need an AV and it has shiplocking?
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>>14778304
I still don't get why people here and on /a/ go rabid whenever someone mentions his art.
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20 LSC 4772/20 , not Musashi or Yamato.

Teach me your way, anon-tachi. Which secretary you guys used when you get the hotels?
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>>14778312
I used Hacchan trying to get Shioi, got Yamato instead.
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Datamined Iowa when
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The law of the jungle.
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I hope Iowa is in a wheelchair and cripple moe because of FDR.
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>>14778340
That Trump fairy is insanely charismatic
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>>14778340
>male fairies
This is why nobody likes him.
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26 buckets left. Should I bother attempting E-2 on Medium?
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>>14778314

I tried to use Hacchan and I got I-401 which I haven't had yet after 7th try. Guess that's enough LSC for me. I still got the next event to worry about.

Good enough LSC result for me though, I got I-401, Bismarck, 3 daihatsu and 1 Maruyu. Could be worse.
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>>14778306

Orihime?

orange hair and giant tits
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Haven't played since Spring '15. Has the game changed much meta/feature-wise?
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>>14778415
Yes, we now have jets, USN battleships and flying saucers.
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>>14778415
Wo was right again.
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>>14778415

- Aircraft proficiency
- Upgraded equipments matter now
- Lots of stuff about AA cut-in and game mechanics have been clarified.
- Bunch of Kai Ni, Cranes Kai Ni and Abukuma Kai Ni being the most important.
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>>14778415
Oh yes it has.
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>adding American ships

I have enough scrap, thank you Tanaka.
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>>14778453

He doesn't like freedom ships
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I'M FREE except for Okinami
98 runs.
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I can only hope that we get some semblance of a story in the next event. Otherwise it just seems like we're getting new ships, instead of something significant.

Not saying any allied vessels should get any special treatment, just some sort of progress in the lore, which we've lacked for the past three years.

>GRAMOROUS_IOWA.jpg
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>>14778468
>just some sort of progress in the lore

Since when was there ever any lore? Even the official light novels and mangas contradict themselves.
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>>14778466

Seeing post like this makes me feel really bad for the new admirals in the future. They will be like "Yay, finally I've got Zara after 398 rounds of farming" while we got her normally as the map clearing reward.
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Vita games are like $50 right?
They're paying that much for that ugly UI and some Live 2D shit?

I honestly didn't think you could make the game's battles look worse, but they did.
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>>14778468

Well, until now, the adition of foreign ships have had some very vague story behind then. Exchanging technology with the krauts, U-511 arriving to support cooperation with the krauts. Expedition from Zara. Not sure about Roma, Italia and Libeccio but I think there was something too.

Let's see what they do to justify Iowa and possible next freedom ships.
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>>14778479
You don't need to look that far ahead, just look at the TTKs farming Prinz.
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>>14778472
Whatever concrete that we've pieced together from interviews, ship girl hourlies, etc.
>inb4 the entire premise can probably fit inside a small post-it note

We've seen doujin artists make something worthwhile out of it, so I'd like to hope that professional writers can do something similar.
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>>14778479
Except There will be one wikian that gets her after 6 runs of easy mode and complains that it took so long
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>>14778479

Welp, we did have to go through some bullshit.
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For all people still farming Amatsukaze, great news! Thanks 4chan ads!
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>>14778492
Cute Naka-chang.
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>>14778479
I dunno, something like slaving away for 15 hours in 2013 Fall isn't necessarily something I would ask from anyone else unless I'm in a piss poor mood

Though I do agree that having to farm for several hours does leave something to be desired.
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>>14778490
>Whatever concrete that we've pieced together from interviews, ship girl hourlies, etc.
Yeah. Like they're always talking about some kinda war that happened. What's up with that?
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>>14778500

We've never had something like Yahagi again though.
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>>14778458
>he likes burgerboats
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>>14778492
Who netted the last kill?
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>>14778515

Hatsushimo cut-in. Then Tone and Ooi cleaned the rest
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>>14778503
Something that got added in the last minute?
To be fair, devs were probably still trying to figure shit out and didn't really anticipate the backlash there.

Really kind of unfortunate, since most were generally sympathetic to the devs until that point.
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>>14778490
So literally nothing? The girls don't say anything that indicates there is a story or if there was some sort of progress for the last two years. Hell, the word "Abyss" is never even mentioned by any of them, not even in that crappy anime for some odd reason.
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>>14778492
What map is that?
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>>14778528
Looks like last year's Winter event.
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Kancolle is a setting without a story.

Because any story would destroy the setting.
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>>14778527
Pretty much. The game's always been reliant on the popularity of the characters, but it seems like they're really dependent on the constant dishing out of new memeworthy characters or characteristics.
Just a little worried about that.
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>>14778528
Last winter's E5, the map that rewarded Amagi.

>>14778533
>Kancolle
>small c
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>>14778524
Oh nice.
>tfw only got A rank at last dance
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>>14778453
There are two achievements specifically for getting Yamato and Iowa, so you'll be scrapping what will be one of the best ships. I for 1 will ride her into a badass sunset.
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>>14778536
>KanColle
>big C
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>>14778500
I'm still cheesed that they let bullshit like forgetting to put drops into loot tables happen, like pic related I've been farming this piece of shit map for 4 days and still haven't gotten her.
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>>14778547
Cuck yourself if you must. I won't contribute to the anti nationalist power creep.
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>>14778453
Go back to crying on the wikia about it.
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>>14778550
>forgetting
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>>14778551
cute. you draw that yourself?
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>>14778551

Keep cucking yourself, she'll sail besides Hotel and Sushi in next events.
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>>14778231
Sure. You won't finish in one day though.
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>>14778562
>implying I will do events that force me to use burgerboats
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>>14778563
I finished it with ~60-70 buckets in 1 day.
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>>14778578
Are you me?
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>>14778576

You won't have to, you'll just be denying yourself who will probably be the best FBB of the game by far.

BTW, Iowas could beat the crap out of the Kongos, that was what they were made for.
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Fuck you too
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>>14778585
>you should be excited that ameriboats are coming and will render all the ijn obsolete

Why though? Why should that please me?
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>>14778593

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/kancolle/images/0/07/Heavy_Cruiser_Princess_Broken_Form_Damaged.ogg
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>>14778466
>got her on my final dance kill

>tfw wanted Mizuho or Akashi

She cute and all, but I already have 4 CVs between 80-99 I don't even field unless branching or some BS boss demands. I have yet to have my first Akashi so I can start upgrading and Mizuho is cuter.
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>>14778597
He thinks they are adding the whole navy for some reason.
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>>14778597

Did you cry too when the Littorios rendered the Kongos obsolete? For fucks sake, they were amongst the oldest ships in the IJN at that time. Kongo herself is the oldest ship in the game.

Kongos will still retain their low consumption which will make then efficient BBs for quests.
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>>14778605
The Iowa class is just the beginning obviously, as time goes on they will introduce more ships.

It's kind of how the game works, if you've noticed.
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>>14778601

The Unryuu class combine excellent firepower with low consumption. They are perfect for doing periodical quests so you save resources or for ship locked maps on events that don't need mosntrous air power.
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>>14778585
>that was what they were made for.
Come fucking on now, sinking 1905 vintage boats is not what Iowa were designed for. Escorting carrier battle groups was their prime role, hence the compromises in armour and hull shape.
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Zara will get her armor fixed in the post-event update, r-right?
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>mfw all the farming fodder I got
Send help
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>>14778610
They will add one US ship.
Then the backlash from the Japanese userbase will be so great that they won't ever release another one and maybe even get rid of the one they actually introduced.
US destroyed all the most loved Japanese ships and is still occupying Japan today and it is not forgiven.
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>>14778078
>-There exists a plan to increase the variety of overseas ships in term of nationality and ship type.
Canadians and UK ship when?
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>>14778630
God I hope so.
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>>14778610
There will be 6 at most, perfect for 1 fleet.
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>>14778624

And the escorts of the IJN carrier groups and their only BBs that could pursue the USN CVs were the Kongos. That's why the Iowas were build.
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>>14778635
Oh, you must be Tanaka, so nice to meet you.
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>>14778632

>Canadian

There's no glory in being UK's lapdog.
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>>14778630
>and it is not forgiven.
For fucks sake, even Germans care more about that.
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>>14778630
>>14778634
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>>14778642
Have you ever been near a us military base in Japan?

The locals hate them.
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>>14778634
What the hell is Tenryuu even going to do?
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>>14778646

Oh no, we lost the Okinawa vote.
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>>14778641
I just want to cute shipgirls from my country.
Some ASW axed DD would be nice.
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>>14778648
Cut a bitch.
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>>14778636
>battleships fighting in carrier battles
Are you mentally handicapped or just pretending?
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>>14778642
Germany is dead, the Chancellor is burning it to the ground.
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>>14778663

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kantai_Kessen
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>>14778646
>>14778630
>backlash
I'm sure they'll get implemented in a way that's presented in a friendly manner.
Pic unrelated.

>Locals hate them
Overgeneralizing are we? Okinawa yes, but other ones do better.
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They're gonna add Iowa and then a load of nothing for USN, they still have enough IJN ships to add for a year or two of events on top off a pile of other axis ships, then there's >>14778632, if there's an allied nation japs would like to see a friendly fleet in their dindunuffins militaristic fantasies, that would be British RN.

The game's probably gonna die off before they're even done with IJN.
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What should my torp cut-in loadout be for a 43 luck Haguro? Bulges? Lookouts? Three torps?
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So we are 5 days in now, is there ANY idea what node I on E1 is for? Why the fuck would you ever go there?
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>>14778664
>new version of Mein Kampf is published, with jews replaced by muslims
>everything starts all over again
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>>14778672
Akizuki according to wiki
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>>14778671
Main gun, 2 quints and skilled lookout.
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>>14778664
Good thing Best Germany is still going stronk.
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>>14778646
So does China, it evens out. Contrary to what you see on wikia, a lot of people are eager for Freedom. Visit some nip boards, amazingly a lot of people there are hype for Freedom as well. World vs. Abyssals, no reason why Iowa isn't a great addition.
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>>14778675
Yeah but she drops on E2 too among other ships so there is no reason to farm her on E1.
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>>14778672
It's not an upper case "i" but a lower case "l" for Lawson. Drops Kashima at ridiculously low %, so low not even poi detects them.
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>>14778677
Ok, is the main gun for extra yasen power? I also only have 3 quints (all at +6) and I'm trying to figure out how to distribute them for E-3 Hard.
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>>14778663

In the unlikely case that enemy surface ships would close in enough that they would be able to fire upon the carriers, wether it be day or night, you'd need as much firepower as you want to protect your carriers since they barely had armor to stop 155 mm shells until the Midways. In that case, the Iowas would come in and defend the carriers with their 206mm guns against anything that could catch up with then in their retreat.

The Iowas job were that one and only, and they actually never had the oportunity to fulfill it. Iowa could only shoot its main guns once during the guns and that was just to sink Katori.
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>>14778669
I wouldn't mind them if they were palette swaps, but they're obviously going to be better, stats wise.

That doesn't sit well with me.
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>>14778683
Extra yasen power, day accuracy and night accuracy if cut-in doesn't proc. Gun has to be in first slot.
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>>14778685

406mm guns*
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Any point sparkling shelling support fleet or is it just a waste of time?
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>>14778678
Prussia is dead, the US killed it.
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I was looking for Isokaze but I guess two extra cranes isn't bad either
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>>14778687
Some aspects will be better, some won't, stop freaking out. Iowa's were great ships, i.e. great stats. If they ever get around to some DDs i'm sure most of their torps will suck dick.
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>>14778688
Thanks anon.
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>>14778683
Ships without a main gun will have terrible accuracy without cut-ins.
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>>14778692
Sparkle route support so that they actually show up.
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>>14778699
Yeah, and if I want to play a game where all the American ships are hella awesome and completely outdo all the filthy nip boats, American developers have been kind enough to provide me with dozens of options.

Can we just have one game where that's not the case?
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Should CV hime be dead before yasen

I feel like she should be, I feel like my fleet is too shit. Kill me.
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>>14778692
Just do route support, boss support is too heavily armored to do anything.
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Super KTKM saves the day agai-
Fuck
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>>14778715
You need really good luck wit AP cut-ins for any of the bosses to be dead at day.
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>>14778717
But Ooi is there to clean up after her
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>>14778687
Don't worry, they'll find a way to balance it :^)

>>14778716
Boss support wipes the two weakest mooks almost every time, the less useless shit my BBs can fire onto the bigger the chance they'll chip off enough boss HP for escorts to finally finish it off.
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>>14778693

>Prussia is dead

Thank Christ, fuck Germany.
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>>14778721
Composition, if anyone cares
Took 3 attempts at last dance
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>>14778720
Huh, fuck me.

This is awful. It's either my Main fleet is taiha'd to shit by BB Hime and I have to retreat or no one get's hit on the main fleet and then two of my DD's just get chuuha'd by BB Hime and getting to the boss means potential of sinking it gets lower.

This is awful.
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>>14778727
>kANcOLLE
>balanced
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>>14778731
>5 ships without any equipment
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>>14778733

Believe in your DDs. Even if they are red by the beginning of yase they can tank attacks too
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>>14778738
They're loaded with 3 red + radar for each. No idea why it's like that
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>>14778737
;^)
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>>14778731
What the hell are you doing with those support fleets?
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>>14778740
>equipping red planes on Yamashiro

Teach me your secrets.
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>>14778739
>they can tank attacks too
More like BB Hime goes for the healthiest girl or they do their cut-in in order from top to bottom.
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>>14778744
I guess shitty kc3kai did not update the equip.
All BBs are 3 * 46 + radar, DDs 2 gun + radar, CVs 3 red + radar
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>>14778749
Just Kai san her, nerd.
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How do we fix Zara?
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>>14778728

>1410
>One knight versus an horde

This is what polaks wants to believe.
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>>14778766
85 FP and 96 armor.

Still shit, but at leas gimmicky.
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>>14778766
>the cutest
fix what?
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>>14778774
Her stats.
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>>14778771

too much FP. She only had 8 guns and those weren't that good. Extra armor would be enough.
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>>14778766
Reduce forehead size, then she becomes the most /fa/ girl.
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>>14778780
She doesn't even had torpedoes.

At least that way she could snipe something and pretend to be useful.
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>>14778771
75 FP is sufficient. Bump HP to 59 or 61, armor to Ne-class levels (82-89) and you got something decent and usable.
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>>14778798
I'd rather remove her torpedo stat entirely and bring her FP and armor up to BB levels
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>>14778809

That's what the USN cruisers will all be.
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>There are a few reports that 1(F)BB(V)/1CV(B)/2DD/2CA(V) has a small chance to redirect to the land base aerial attack node.

That sounded like the ideal fleet to use, but the wiki has that line. Does it mean it can redirect to D?
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>>14778777
for combined fleet you don`t need torpedo stats, with her longe range Zara is the best FS of Suijou Butai and my hear"
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>>14778818
In E-2? I was farming south in easy and never happened to me in ~50 sorties.
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>>14778822
HEART, fucking keyboard
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>>14778766
+10 armor, +5 HP
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>>14778814
Only the Baltimore/Des Moines would come close to that level. The early USN CAs were pretty shit, with the Wichita being the only good treaty CA that could compete with the IJN's heavy cruisers.
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>>14778822
>stealing turns from BBs and Cranes
>good
Are you high? She's the worst CA precisely because of her range. Aoba is better for CF.
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>>14778818
I wouldn't worry about it. I cleared the map with 1FBB 1CA 1CL 2DD 1CV and never got redirected once.
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So word has it Himeuta's migrating since some shit went down on .net and they're going to http://www.himeuta.org/
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>>14778832
Why should we care?
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>>14778832
That's great now get out
>>>\himeuta.net\
Wait my bad
>>>\himeuta.org\
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>>14778832

Go back to that hellhole and never come back. God, what an awful place.
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>>14778832

>himebuta
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is there any english or jp wiki page for overweight page with data samples, including 16inch?

Seeing people arguing how 16inch is fine or not on any FBB, including bisko, is tiresome.
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>>14778829
>>She's the worst CA precisely because of her range
>BBs inevitably waste an APCI on a DD every single battle
I don't see the problem
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>>14778857

read the OP.
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>>14778857

16in is for Big 7 and Hotels.
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>>14778860
The OP fit gun picture doesn't include 16inch

>>14778861
That's what I thought as well since it is pretty much similar to 41cm. The question is rather how bad the penalty is on any FBB.

wikiwiki doesn't have any data sample nor 16inch stuff, and wikia is just a clusterfuck with no dedicated overweight penalty page for whatever reason.
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>>14778832
As much as himeuta ppl annoy the shit out of me, I'm glad it exists. There will always be idiots in any community and I think it's better that they have their own place to go to then to leak out elsewhere.
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>>14778868
>16 inchs
its american 41cm anon
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>>14778868

Oh yeah that's right. The thing I guess is that since there is no Iowa yet we've got no "right" ship for the gun to compare with others. The usual nip autists will probably start doing tests once they get Iowa.
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>>14778875

Well, the whole forum structure, that retarded rep system and above all, the mods, contribute the absolute faggotry of that place.

Then, there are people that like living in shit and go there to circlejerk.
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>>14778877

meant to quote this

>>14778872
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>>14778836 >>14778843
>>14778838

I donno, that's depends...

Part of the reason everyone's might have left the old place is because they found out former admin was a money hoarding jew.

Perhaps now, they'll start getting thier shit together since it'll be under new management.
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>>14778881

New management? Like free of retard drama queens as mods like Kalinsre? Free of the circlejerking and abusable rep system?
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>>14778859
Thing is, BBs can kill Ru Kai or Wo Kai when they target her. Zara offers absolutely nothing.
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>>14778872
Guess also is a good place for these "ships sank during the event" collages.
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>>14778872
They can just go join the other group of retards, reddit
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>>14778868
16 inch is a bit heavier than 41cm.
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>>14778868
More.
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>>14778897
>>14778898
Nice. Any link for such data? That will be handy in the future.
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>>14778868
And more.
Keep in mind 16inch has base +4 accuracy, that's why it is more accurate than 41cm - however it gives higher penalty/lower bonus
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I wonder if Mizuho feels bad that her abyssal form is a massive bitch that shows up to beat the crap out of everybody every few months.
I wonder if the other girls bully her as she's walking in the halls by going "uwahh it's AV-hime, everybody run".
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>>14778892
Those two enemies inevitably sit at the top of an enemy fleet and get targeted last. What's the problem?
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>>14778901
Check the archive. Those are from twitter when the gun was released.

>>14778907
Targeting is random and you want to kill them before they have chance to attack.
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Did I fuck up?
I spent my preparation upgrading heavy guns like 46 and 51.
Now I realized my resources are not healthy enough to consistently sortie Hotels.
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>>14778906
>being bullied by DDs
There is nothing more embarrassing.
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>>14778919
51cm should be used on Nagatos, Hotels like 41cm.
You fucked up with 46cm but now that you have them upgraded, use them in single fleet.
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>>14778877
That's a fair statement. But if it wasn't himeuta, it'd be some other thing.

Some people are just into that kind of dumb shit and there's enough of them that a forum like that is sort of inevitable.
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>>14778887
Well for starters, there won't be any ads, also since Saya isn't going to be in control of the new version (since it was uncovered that there was shady jew things happening) and yes at least the reputation system is dead as far as I'm aware.
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>>14778932
They couldn't bully her for long. If there's one thing AVs are good at it's clearing DDs.
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Speaking of BB guns, is there any data on what the Iowa gun is fit for yet?
I've been using it as if it were a 41cm.
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>>14778916

>bringing Maya and memecarrier instead of 2CVL
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>>14778947

Rep system out of the picture is good news. Its only purpose was to neg rep anyone you didn't like and circlejerk the forum's potentates. There was no real freedom of speech.

But if there is the same mod corps it will be the same shit.
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>>14778951
>bringing shitty squishies instead of my wife
Don't worry, I used DA CA instead of Maya for final kill.

>>14778907
This screenshot might be better, no support here. Ru who died was supposed to attack that turn.
Now imagine CF with other BBs who have only long range and your Zara steals the first turn hitting that Ru Kai for 10 + 15 damage. You're going home.
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>>14778965
Except the bad guys get flagship protection too, so the odds of hitting a flagship first turn are much lower.
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>>14778965

She might now fit in those kind of situations but maybe in maps where you can only bring one BB and there are a bunch of high evasion enemies and a boss you may want Zara to kill those high evasion enemies before to have a better chance at your only BB hitting the boss and not wasting shots.
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>>14778971
There's another Ru Kai which has no protection.
If you use 2CLTs and route support it's ver likely only those two Ru will be alive at the start of battle.

Anyway, there's zero merit in Zara going first. There is a possibility of great merit with BB shooting first.
BBs can instantly disable CV Hime with a single crit too, CA needs two crits with good rolls.
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I can only imagine how good will Iowa be if her guns give her fit bonus on top of the base +4 accuracy, the only possible downside would be if devs don't make 16inch upgradeable.
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>>14778981
That would require situation where boss can be disabled in one hit by a battleship AND has shorter range than her escorts. I'm not sure if there was a single one like that.
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>>14778989
>AND has shorter range than her escorts
That's not necessary. What is necessary is that it takes 2 solid hits or a crit from a BB to take her down. So any high health boss.
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>>14778989

Well, it may come in the future.
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>>14778989
The only situation where she could be useful would be killing a DD/CL so that your BB's attacks aren't wasted on them, but then so it's completely situational.
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>>14778998
If boss has long range it's better if your BB goes first and hope she disables boss.

>What is necessary is that it takes 2 solid hits or a crit from a BB to take her down.
Such bosses always have escorts that CA can't reliably kill.

>>14779000
Honestly, I have hard time imagining a situation where Zara's long range would be anything but liability.
Her guns however are great for turn manipulation among other cruisers.

>>14779009
And what if she doesn't target that DD? You have no control over that.
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Even if long range was useful you're forgetting you can just use Tone with a SCAMP or give her shitty pasta gun to any other CA.

She's useless.
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>>14779016
>great for turn manipulation among other cruisers
Yeah, best PvP/3-2A gun ever.
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>>14779016
Exactly. It's completely situational. It's only useful when it happens, but worthless otherwise.
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>>14779028

She has base long range so you can use 20.3 or SK guns on her and still shoot before most cruisers.
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Well shit, I switched E2 difficulty to Hard to reset the bar for farming, forgot to set it back to Easy, but S-ranked the boss anyway.

I've got a good feeling about this comp.
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>>14779048
That's bad though because she has shit firepower.
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Repostan
http://imgur.com/a/kKfJN
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How much time has to pass after a full boss sortie for girls to return to max morale?
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>>14779073
1 minute for every point up to 49 points.
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lol, it's true. Pola might very well be worse than Hyaha taking into account those lines from Zara.
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>>14778919
All guns are neutral for hotels.
So if you have upgraded 46cm, just pair them with +accuracy guns like Biscuit guns.
The only disadvantage 46cm has compare to 41cm is the difficulty in upgrading them.
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>>14779128
what's that damage calculator?
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Quick /jp/ give me a Bismarck recipe.
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All I want from E1 is a Yahagi. Why must I get so many Yankees and every other rare drop in existence
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>>14779128
41cm are fit on Hotels.
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>>14779145
4/6/7/2 - 20
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>>14779119
kuso
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>>14779145
4672/20
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>>14779145

Use a kraut for flaship. Allways follow the advice of the true prophet.
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>>14779145
7/7/7/7/100
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>>14779145

5/6/7/3/20 has the highest chance
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>>14779099
Pola sounds like a mess, but Zara is pretty big weirdo herself. She must have some serious PTSD, because she sees her sister's ghost on every corner of the base.
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So I was clearing E-2 and today the boss bar refilled. Does it do that every week?
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>>14779150
wikiwiki says otherwise.
Was there a new test or something?
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>>14778104
Your CL should be Nagara, and the last ship should be Mogami. There's no ship who's more of a tomboy than Mogami.
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