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Don't settle for the vanilla assets, people; it's really easy to mod your game! Use the ElonaUploader as well! Feel free to ask for help ITT



Wiki: http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Elona_Wiki
Previous thread: >>14667190

(Slightly outdated) pastebin: http://pastebin.com/T2RCwdh8

Elona+ 1.54 is out:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:19997

Most recent Elona Custom Version (compatible with Versions of Elona+ up to 1.54): http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:17104

Vanilla Elona: http://homepage3.nifty.com/rfish/index_e.html


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Custom Assets

ElonaUploader:http://www.elonaup.x0.com/sozai/

Anon's extra sprites:
http://a.pomf.hummingbird.moe/ssjonr.bmp (embed)

http://a.pomf.hummingbird.moe/fshbmg.bmp (embed)


A collection of custom body parts you can use for your PC and pets. About 60MB in size (696 files) when extracted (Great to download, just extract everything to the pcc folder, will overwrite from pcc_x_1, be warned.)

If someone could re-host this that would be great: https://www.dropbox.com/s/zfjnqpzx7ej4em2/Elona%20-%20Graphic%20Packs.zip?dl=0


Don't forget Pixiv: http://www.pixiv.net/tags.php?tag=elona

There are more results if you type in 'Elona Pixiv to your search tool of choice.'

Don't forget to make threads before they fall off the catalog, lads.
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>>14694626
>>14694642
Could have waited a bit.

>>14694321
>Now I have to try it.
Hope you're not melee.
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>>14694746
Auto-sage and it was falling off the catalog. No point, really. Is it even necessary to update the pastebin, really? Is there anything in it that will cause problems for new players that do the right thing if it's left-as is?
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So for Ranching the main strategy is buy a bunch of deeds and stack them full of high breeding score pets, right? I heard Chickens could be used for the purpose but I have no idea where to find them. I also considered Putits since apparently they have a high score but how could I catch Putits/Chickens/Sheep etc without obliterating them? Even low level pets are unreliable for the purpose.
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>>14694791
1. Puppy Cave
2. Rod of Domination/the spell Domination

On another note, why do I find one big daddy in every dungeon but not one book of Rachel no.3. Infuriating.
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>>14694791
There is a feat you can take that gives you a special action that will leave the target at 1 HP without killing them. I forget the name of it though. Knock out or something.
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>>14694933
I considered it but it seemed too niche. Like wouldn't it be a better use of my points to spend them on evasion or dodge or something?
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>>14694940
Don't spend feats on dodge and the like. Skills like evasion and attributes like constitution are fairly easy to level. Life, mana, stamina, luck and special actions like cheer are things you should get.
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>>14694940
It's ultimately up to your decision.

I prefer to spend feats on things you cannot otherwise get (through grinding).

It does become rather useless later on once you have large stocks / high levels in the Domination spell or if you're rolling in medals that you can buy rods of domination with, but in the early-mid game I relied on it a lot so I can use monster balls.
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>>14694978
Yeah, I was thinking: "WTF, putits and chickens are worth charges on the rods? Aren't they super precious? WTF?" but if you can farm hundreds of wands in the late game then maybe it's not worth the frustration. I was incredulous because I've only so far gotten Domination from a single spellbook that I can't read and dreams.
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Can you sell cargos at your own shop? I've dropped a cargo of piano at my shop a while ago and it's still there.
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>>14694810
Book no.3 has a really weird spawn rate. I only found one when I was already in south Tyris
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Listen what you guys think about playing not a default race? Is it even worse than savescumming? Or it depends on certain race?
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>>14694810
>>14695008

No.1 is the one I'm having trouble getting.
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I had a miracle paper speed ring that I rerolled into titanium. The vendor price for the former was about 4k, but the latter sells for only 1 gp.

It's probably an overflow, but will it also sell for 1 gp in the shop?
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>>14695012
Depends on the race, I think. A good amount of them are more powerful than the default races, but in the end no one really cares, just play the race you think you would enjoy.
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>>14695089
Some of them may look strong but actually many of them lack body parts or have a high speed stat which is bad?
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>>14694753
the only thing that ever changes is the version numbers

The dropbox link is static, so that's never an issue. The most that'd have to get updated regularly is the elona custom links, unless anna makes a static dropbox for them eventually.
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>>14694988
Usual tip: late game don't use medals for dom rods. Use them for Hermes blood. For spell farming (except combat spells) mass buy and bless scrolls of wonder. They're relatively common at 100-150+ level magic vendors. Goods (or general, I never remember) also sell them.

>>14694993
Cargo should only be sellable at traders.

>>14695081
Never heard of prices overflowing. Have you identified it?
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0-4 goblin
5-9 golem
dubs fairy
trips snail
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>>14694940
I agree with other anons that there are feats that are probably more important to take sooner than others. If you're going to be in Elona for a very long time I wouldn't worry too much about feats though. It's possible to get all of them through leveling and then just repeatedly wishing for miromi. There is probably better things to wish for later but hey, I'm just saying it's possible.

I kind of like the knockout feat myself. Since you can get enemies to 1 HP it's a great feat to soften up high level enemies for a low powered pet to swoop in and kill for AP farming. This may be a good alternative in some situations as tagging yourself to a very slow pet might be dangerous. If you don't run with pets yeah skip it but if you do run with pets you might want to consider it.

On a side note I didn't know a player could get MP Breath. Learn something everyday. Neat.
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>>14694626
>Newfag to this game and would wanna try it
Does it run on linux distributions ?
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Can a Wizard use guns? If yes its better than short sword or staves?.
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>>14695315
The langauge it's written in (HSP) does have an unofficial Linux port, but I can't imagine the Windows version working natively in Linux.

Give it a try and find out.
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>>14695338
Guns go in the range slot and doesn't really compete with short swords or staves.

And to answer your question yes you can use guns.

For melee combat a heavy weapon with the Two-hand skill or two light weapons with the dual wield skill are probably optimal.
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Poor younger sister. I just wanted to improve my performer skill. Sadly my Panzerfaust X was right next to the piano in the inventory.
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what's the recommended living weapon upgrades for south tyris(aside from res)? i just got lvl 10 on my only living weapon and it's full of elemental dmg.

are there strong weapons that can be looted which aren't precious and living?
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>>14695354
I see, thank you, in your experience then for a wizard its better to have dual wield than a single hand stave/short sword and a shield?
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>>14695422
Light armor = better casting, so if you want to go wizard you should dualwield two light weapons. At around 14s equipment weight, your equipment and armor is classified as medium armor. It's difficult to wield a devastating hammer or claymore and stay below 14s for better casting as a wizard. I'm currently dualwielding two staves for the occasional melee and one a sniper to take potshots at low level enemies.
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>>14694810
>you don't need to weaken monsters to dominate them
i've been knocking them out before i dominate them all this time. i have a lot of monsters in the doujou saved up for gene engineering.

thanks
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>>14695315
It runs fine enough on WINE. Only issues are non-working bgm and crashes when closing the game.
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>>14695560
Have you tried custom music or is the issue something more fundamental, do you think?
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FYI to aspiring martial artists: monsters are going to be leaving puke EVERYWHERE when you attack them. Consider that before committing to it.
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>>14695581
You mean vomit? All over the place?
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>>14695573
No BGM no errors.
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>>14695012
I personally don't really care. A lot of them are missing a lot of equipment slots which is a huge disadvantage imo. Luckily you can get that fixed in the game eventually but it's annoying. The only things of note about some of the debug races is starting speed and attribute bonus. Things that may make the start of the game easier but nothing any of the vanilla races can't achieve eventually(high attributes, high speed). Also you may be missing out on special racial feats/advantages by picking a debug race. Also INI values may be high for some of the debug races which is a big drawback for earning AP. Definitely some things to consider if you go into debug races thinking that you'll have an edge over vanilla races.
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>>14695600
You mean that you prefer no-bgm? This post was very confused to me.
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Well, for whatever it's worth, the god race is god-tier for role-play. Not that I would ever do such a thing but still.
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>>14695422
Early on it's better to use a shield. I suggest saving up medals to get the Shield Tonfa from the workshop.

What weapon type you use in the main hand is inconsequential (since you won't be relying on it for attacks much), just make sure it's not too heavy if you want the light weight casting bonus, then pick whatever weapon gives you the best bonuses.

If you worship Itzpalt the staff you get is really solid for casters. Most people prefer to put it in the ranged slot solely for its bonus, but if you will use a gun then just equip it normally in the hand.

Later on when you have less trouble with survivability, dual wielding or two hand would definitely do a lot more damage than using a shield.
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>>14695634
>>14695422
>Early on it's better to use a shield.
Sorry, I meant to say claw.

Shield Tonfa doesn't count as a shield and so it won't mess with your casting success rate.
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>>14695588
>>14695581

that's my fetish.
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>>14695609
no, bgm causing crashes.
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>>14695198
I looked around a bit and it seems like overflow.

>A rubynus panty with 1d39, sells hits the overflow in the regular shop and sells for 1 GP. Sell t hem in your player shop. Overflow is ignored. Materials for panties are NOT that rare. So you can make vast numbers of them.

Guess I'll pop it in the shop, then.

>>14695581
Sounds awesome.
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>>14695666
Ah well, good thing for Spotify and Youtube.
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>>14695674
>overflow
Huh. Aside from early game when I don't have shop, I never sell equipment to vendors. Guess that's why I never saw it before.
But hey, good for you, it should sell for quite a bit.
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oh boy.
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>>14695778
Could have been worse!
I always get fucking cluster bomb+ blobs.
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Is it better to give equipment that grants a chance for an additional attack to dual wielders or to two-handers?
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>>14696108
i got speed stuff on me and my guys and no res so i get wrecked pretty hard by nightmare and blind. time to get ap for some speed so i can get res stuff.
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>tfw ugly pet stole your gold after you've killed gold bell
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>>14696407
Try to forgive your pet. Pet wants to get enough money to afford training. Pet probably thinks master will stop abusing it if it gets better at something.
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>>14696407
This looks familiar, where's it from?
Also, unless you're saving up for something in particular, it might be better for your pet to have gold than for you to.
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>>14696407
What >>14696664 said.
You can easily make money in other ways. Get lucky in cooking two or three steaks and you'll earn more than you would from a bell. Also pets benefit from gold a lot more than you.
>>14696664
Non Non Biyori. Frowning girl is Renge, that's all I know.
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Friendly reminder that proper training and good parenting of the little girl produces the left side of the picture while shitty training and and bad parenting produces the useless piece of shit on the right. Please don't let your little girl become a NEET that won't leave the room you gave her in your palace anon.
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>>14697880
>implying selling that brat is not first thing you do in game
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>>14697880
My little girl is already strong enough to mentor and handle my younger sister. She's built around 1h weapon and shield just like your typical battle maiden.
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>>14698024
That's cute. Your younger sister is a hand puppet.
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Where can I find a panzerfaust X or the m202?
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>>14698024
That's pretty cool. Hope your younger sister learns a lot from your Valkyrie. Younger sisters left unattended have a tendency to get into trouble...like that one younger sister with the chainsaw in that one quest...
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>>14698109
I found mine in a dungeon. Maybe high rank shops sell those too. It's a useable item like a rod so the general or goods vendor could stock them, but I wouldn't bet my money on that. Just jump into dungeons and hope for the best. I once found a rod of wishing and one evolution heart in the same dungeon. Just praise Ehekatl and it will all work out..
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Should I trade my little sisters for happy apples, hero cheese and magic fruits? Seems like a good way to raise the respective attributes. What do you guys usually get?
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>>14698211
Thats exactly what you want to do.
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>>14698225
I usually stockpile my rewards, cause I'm too paranoid that one day I'm going to visit the scientist and she has boatloads of artifacts I want. Oh well. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
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How can I use fonts? I see the option in the config file but how does it work? Do I just type in the name of a font and the game searches some folder in my computer? Which one? Also Japanese is currently illegible on my machine, it just displays:
font1. "‚l‚r ƒSƒVƒbƒN" used in Japanese

in the config. If I changed it to a japanese font would the language render properly?
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>>14698310
The game uses the installed fonts on your computer. You can just type the one you want to use.
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>>14698324
Is there any way to disable the "Elona is a freeware...." message on the startup?
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>>14698339
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>>14698348
Cool, thanks.
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>>14694753
>Auto-sage and it was falling off the catalog.

Next time wait till it actually falls or at least reaches page 10, /jp/ is super slow and not even autosage makes threads die fast.
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For some items the game uses one sprite with different colors like magic books. Is there a way to assign multiple sprites to those? For instance, is it possible to assign this image to cat sister diary? The item.bmp only uses three book images as a source. The red one for the red books, a blue one for the blue skillbooks and a white one for ancient, magic and diary books.
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>>14698211
kumiromi's gemstone of rejuvenation and statues.
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I drained every fountain and well in North Tyris just to get my first wish for a 7LB. Turns out that the item is cursed and also plummets my cold resist.

Cursed wishes shouldn't be supposed to exist.
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>>14698393
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIiUqfxFttM
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Is it alright to use PCCs with backgrounds other than light blue? What sort of errors can I expect?
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>>14698464
Never tried but I assume it will render the whole block including the background.
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>>14698464
>>14698467
Black and light blue work. Just tried it myself.
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>>14698480
Based.
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Wait, is it true that luck increases the rate at which Big Daddies spawn? The wiki says it does, but then the first comment claims that it doesn't
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>>14698024
How's your little sister doing? I let her follow my party but all she does is standing there so I'm starting to think she should stay at home instead of risking her life.
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Spamming the enter key while doing pet battles caused my BGM and Sound to glitch out leaving the entire game silent. Does anyone know a way to fix this issue?
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>>14698915
Report it to AnnaBanna on the ElonaWiki.
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Does cooking a corpse reduce the bonuses you can get from it? Also what does the "wood material" you can get from cutting down trees be used for?
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>>14698924
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Elona_Wiki
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>>14698918
Nevermind, Managed to fix it with a fresh install.
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>>14698963
Report it anyway. Anna might be able to figure out a bug-fix.
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>Release on Saturday

- Carpentry tool item has been renamed to tools, and their description has been changed.
- MP Breath is now affected by the equipment attribute that increases breath damage. It will still be affected by Charge Attack for now.
- Reduced SP consumption of breath-type actions. This should more or less be how powerful breath attacks should be considering their lack of need for spell stock and ease of leveling. A precious tool to change Variable Breath element without relying on equipment or attributes should make fighting with it more tactical.
- Added 8 high-level seamonsters and 1 evolution.
- When a summoned undead monster defeats an enemy, AP is earned by the player and is based off the player's INI.
- Summoned undead will not act as summoned undead inside showrooms.

- Adjusted NPC adventurers' starting level and fame, and their hiring price. Hiring price is now reduced with affection level. Their profile will also be generated randomly, and they won't prefer to stay in North Tyris any more.
- Undead can be tethered to you with a leash like your pets, and will warp to you when they are too far away. Brainwashing no longer affects them.
- Dragon zombie has been changed to predator class.
- Necro force HP and MP consumption halved. Added the option to make them gather around you without returning them to their coffins.

- Added 1 policy for governing towns. It won't show up until the prerequisites are met.
- About the replacement for the alias voting system:
Voting can now be done in towns where there has been a werewolf attack. When the player has voted and is in town at 12 noon, the NPC with the most votes will be executed. (If more than 1 NPC shares the top vote, 1 of them will be picked.) So go kill the one that you have your eye on (for his items).
- Altered the werewolf option in conversations. Picking it will cause the affection level to slightly lower, but more votes will go to that NPC. This can be done any time from after the werewolf attack till the player checks the ballot box.
- NPC adventurers can be recruited as an ally after recruiting him 1 time, as opposed to 3 times before. Adventurers above level 300 will be weakened when they are recruited as allies.


Fixes:
- Cutscene added in 1.54 no longer replays every time the player enters the floor.
- Score no longer overflows. Upper limit is now more or less unachievable at 100 million. With 20 times the score in no future mode, the limit is 2 billion.
- Influence level in town will be saved, and will no longer reset when starting up Elona
- Coffins that are stashed into your graveyard key when you don't have enough space in your inventory will no longer lose their necro tuning effect
- Fixed number and weight of gifts, proofs of friendship, and chocolate going weird after gifting them.
- Fixed some of the script.
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>>14698973
>Voting can now be done in towns where there has been a werewolf attack. When the player has voted and is in town at 12 noon, the NPC with the most votes will be executed. (If more than 1 NPC shares the top vote, 1 of them will be picked.) So go kill the one that you have your eye on (for his items).

Does it mean Suika Ibuki is going to die?
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>>14698973
So just to be sure:

Accuse NPC of Werewolf > Vote > Kill > Accuse?
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>>14698996
Oh god no. Someone, please think of the Suikas.
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>>14698973
>- When a summoned undead monster defeats an enemy, AP is earned by the player and is based off the player's INI.
It's time.
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How does riding work? Since I'm a fairy I'm always been speedy as hell so I never bothered trying that thing because I can't find a pet faster than me.

But how does it work? Do I need to take the skill to 100 to get the full pet speed?
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>>14698996
I would assume that you're killing the citizens in town, not other players...?

>>14699002
Dunno.
Maybe vote/accuse NPC > stick around for the execution?
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I'm always satisfied when I'm leaving the battlefield burned down to the ground.
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>>14699063
What font, friendo?
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>>14699074
This one
>>14698324
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>>14699052
How much riding skill you need depends on the steed's speed, its strength, and whether it has the cHorse flag.

The forumla is here:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Riding
Riding = (MountSpeed - MountStrength * 1.5 - 50) / 2

I think it's interesting that you can ride the wild horse and greater wild horse at full speed with 29 riding each.

You'll need more skill if you equip stuff that increase speed like glass equipment or speed rings on the steed, or gene engineer the swimming skill and ride it in the rain, or cast the speed buff on yourself while riding (it goes to the steed).

You'll need less if you equip strength stuff on it, etc.

Fairies have 120 starting speed, right? Wild horses are faster at 147 speed, and that's just the crappiest one so it might be worth checking out riding. It might be slower when you don't have as much riding skill and the horse doesn't have as much strength, but when you have that skilled leveled later North Tyris steeds like the kaneda bike can let you zip around at up to 250.

In south tyris they become irrelevant though. They get in the way of AP farming and you're faster than them anyways.
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Well, this was quite the find. Just a little something I happened upon on a whim that was snugly tucked away amongst the common rabble.
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>>14699357
Good luck reading and casting that. Lucky bastard.
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Ey so, I was just returning from a harvest when a lightning hound (were-wolf attack) attacked Yowyn. The important thing is that it killed Gwen, will she revive eventually? I kind of want her loot.
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>>14699376
Yeah, she will revive after some time.
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>>14699376
As with every unique.
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>>14699391
>>14699388
Nice, nice. I'll be able to enjoy that succulent baby flesh as many times as I like...woof...
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Are silver eyed witches good pets? The wiki says so but mine hasn't been that note worthy. She even has the <Claymore>
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I wanted to access my inventory with d but accidently hit f and shoot a town child in the head with a sniper rifle ;_;
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>>14699428
Better watch out, that's how the Ishvalan war started.
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>>14698935
Don't be an ass, man, if we don't answer questions for newer players we'd just fill the void with shitposting

>>14698924
Cooking corpses changes the attribute xp you get from it, you get less if you're a shit cook and more if you do a decent job. If you're talking about resistance bonuses, I have no clue at all, my guess is that those are not affected.
Wood material, along with a wood piece and a set of carpenter's tools, is used to make wooden furniture from the pot of fusion (carpenter's tools are not consumed though)
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>>14699456
Thanks! I couldn't find anything on the wooden materials. Don't sound overly useful but who knows.
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>>14699427
Pic related anyway, insult is nice but eh I can just teach it to any pet if I want to.
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Can I keybind keys like 'insert' by typing in 'insert''? I just disabled shift as esc but the damn thing is still being annoying.
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>>14699465
I mean furniture is pretty useful if you wanna decorate your house (for roleplay, for dosh, or to convince gods to hang out). You could also end up crafting a golem but those seem pretty useless by the time you can get them
Also trains your carpentry skill if you wanna hold onto your materials for whatever reason
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>>14699508
I'm guessing that she was good back in vanilla where you couldn't teach pets anything.
Now I just go for pets that have things you can't teach
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>>14698109
I found M202 at that ring seller in Noyel.
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how do i mod my game? i'm completely new to elona and roguelikes in general. what program you guys use? ty
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what are things you don't savescum in order to make the just a little more fun and challenging? i feel bad but i feel i save time by doing it.
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>>14699761

black market vendors, when I have a couple hired it is still rare to see anything worthwhile to buy.
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>>14699705
You don't need any programs ( unless you're interested in creating your own sprites or portraits).

Find what you like on the Elona uploader op mentioned and place in the appropriate folder.

Some files (like sprite sheet) you just override th default existing, others you place in the user graphics folder.

Search for customization or custom sprite on Elona wiki, there's an article with detailed instructions.
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>>14699884
Could have just given her some dye, m8.
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>>14699949
Next time this slut will think twice before getting pregnant again.
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>>14698973
Addendum:
- Relaxed material requirements for making monster balls. Max level for monster balls set to 200. Monster balls will also not be more than 10 levels higher than lowest dungeon floor cleared.
- When the player eats "Uh-uh, the taste is so so" or "The taste is not bad" food or better, stamina recovers by enchant level * 1.5 + food tier. This was added as a way to recover stamina and as a reason for the player to eat high-quality cooked food.
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>G-Give me your hands!
LOL bitch can't be helped
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>>14699884
>>14700026
I feel bad for her
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Why it trains your strength when you are getting crops in harvest quest?
It's obvious that it would but gardening is not a str skill.
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>>14700001

what is with this horseshit anyway? does every new version try to make this game more and more tedious?
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>>14700096
You're pulling out vegetables that weigh more than a suit of armor. I'd say that qualifies as physical exercise, don't you think?
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This is it. After 559 in-game days, 21284 kills and many tears I finally found Rachel no.3
Fuck this dumb quest.
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>>14700119
It's always interesting seeing how people react to the games difficulty or the grind. Some people think the game is too hard, others think the game is too easy and unblanaced, others think the game is too grindy, others think the game needs more grind. Can't seem to make anyone happy it seems. I personally think Elona is one of the easier roguelikes if you play it that way.

As for the the Addendum it's not making the game more tedious at all since the food thing actually is making it easier for you to regain stamina and overall makes the game easier. The lv 200 monster balls are enough to capture almost anything in the game. If you were using the balls to actually capture high level pets thinking you were going to get an uber pet you were doing it all wrong to begin with.

Low level pets, that ensure low INI score and somewhat lower training costs, are much more easier to make stronger. Most of the pets, that are insanely strong which have been posted in these threads, come from these type of pets.

High level pets are the hardest to train and most people aren't using monster balls for them. Most notable high level pets are gotten through the astral pen instead of the monster ball.
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>>14700228
1699 days here and still no rachel no.1. last dungeon had no.2, 3 and 4 just to piss me off.
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>>14700119
How is the game harder? Now I can just plant shit, cook shit, eat shit then repeat. Lol causualise cooking skill leveling for me more, please.
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>Arma the tour guide goes to hell. People had a hell of a good time!
Watching her vs my performaid bloodress while I was at 66 spd was like a dbz fight with their shadow steps and teleports. Good thing she got blinded non stop soon after.
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I've finally found a way to quickly divide up sprite sheets. Using IrfanView, first go to options then properties and settings. Go to browsing/editing. Under the editing portion, go to set grid cell size (edit menu) and set to 48.

Hit OK and go to edit and hit Show fixed grid. Image should have a grid now. Go to options and hit Export image files (split image). 33 columns by 25 rows. Probably would be best to change the directory to somewhere that's less of a hassle to reach. Make sure to change the format to BMP - Windows Bitmap. After hitting start, the sprites should all go to the chosen directory.

The rest of what you need to do is here:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Custom_NPC_sprite
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So, do other adventures respawn after you beat them in a duel initiated via duel glove? And what happens with their equipment? They dropped everything. Do they spawn with nothing or does the game roll some new stuff for them?
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The informer says she's at the hospital. I guess I'll see her again. Your fault for not wanting to trade your Gemini.
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>>14701009
Reminds me how annoying those brats are. Especially when your low level pets is trying to kill them every time they respawn.
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In equipment window there's a little star next to hand slot. What does it mean? Main hand for weapon?
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>>14699668
Damn, I never go to Noyel.
>>14698839
She's doing fine, even better than valkyrie littel girl actually since she's specced on two hand weaponry. My entire team is still far from grinding out stat and skill potents though since I'm still stocking up seeds and statues for herb.
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>>14698973
>- When a summoned undead monster defeats an enemy, AP is earned by the player and is based off the player's INI
This seems pretty good, if only you can equip them with better stuff.
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>>14701057
Yes. That's actually what it says in the jp version.
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Those nasty quest NPCs from escort/before it's too late quests can be useful sometimes too. When they are much higher levels than you it's so easy to roll dungeons and even static quests.

Not to say even if they die it's not a big deal they are just stupid temporary slaves anyway.
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Can someone tell about art books?
Should I get them all and read every now and then?
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>>14701284
You talking about skill textbooks?

One of the ways to train a skill stupid fast is to stockpile a shittonne of food / rations, get somewhere with bad weather (like snowy area for example) and spam the textbook.
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>>14701284
You should get the ones you need, then once Etherwind starts go into your house or a dungeon where you can have repair from the weather but at the same time make the time flow normally unlike the shelter. Now just read those books till the wind goes away.

Don't forget to have snacks.
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>>14701327
Reading skill books and using the training machine during bad weather will fast forward time in E+, even if you're not in the shelter. There's also an odd quirk (bug?) where the etherwind lasts much longer when you do that.
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>>14700888
It creates 48x54 images not 48x48.
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>>14701472
Dang, it all lined up so well in the program.
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>>14701518
I got it now. It's is 33x28.
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I have an evolution heart but I don't know if I should evolve my pet as it is level 20, a little girl. Should I evolve her right away? or wait for her skills and level to be higher. Also for little girls who's better a Valkyrie or the Witch.
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So, has anyone had success with curses at higher levels? The bosses seem to have a ridiculously low rate of getting cursed, any way around that?
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>>14701864
No real reason not to
Except for maybe waiting to add speed. I just recently got my first god heart from the Dogtail Quest, and I'm actually waiting until my Blackcat's speed is at 800(670 right now), so I can get it boosted to 850 when evolved. AP training can only go to 800. But if you are still in the early game, evolve her now.

I'd recommend Valkyrie. Melee pets are generally better than caster pets late game. Caster pets aren't too good actually, due to resistances, but a melee Valkyrie is great. Cheer is quite useful too.

Mine dual wields Mournblade and Stormbringer with the Sealed Shield in her ranged slot. With the Twin Edge and boots that have a proximity weapon, and added healing spells, she can hold her own against even an Atlus.
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>>14701870
They do work. It's just you need to level up the hexes pretty high. Look under hex resistance here for more information:

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Hex
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Does ether equipment affect pets too?
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>>14701966
No, pets seem to free from corruption.
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Is there a way to search things in elonauploader ?
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>>14701900
Now now, don't scare him away from caster pets. I have both a Valkyrie and Exile and while my Valkyrie can do more damage than my Exile, the Exile holds her own just as well down deep in the void which I consider the harshest environment for both melee and casters. Also, if you give a caster a ball spell they can quickly destroy mobs and has proved useful in my fights against stuff that summons things in.
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My mutant stopped developing new limbs after sometime now. I'm still stuck on 16 slots. Is this supposed to happen cause I read in the wiki that the maximum penalty you can get from complicated limbs is -50% and I'm still on -15%.
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my lvl 45 golden knight doesn't get any stats from gene engineering even with a grand dragon which is lvl 70. she has 112 str 124 con and 97 dex while the dragon has 201/287/165. what am i doing wrong?
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>>14702217
Yep, it's normal.
-50% is reached by doing the hindu god manœuvre.
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>>14702251
Noice
I thought I screwed up for a moment there because I wore a fairy hat.
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This is the start of something grandiose.
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>>14702298
You have my attention
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>>14702298
such low stats.

Ganbatte, slime-chan.
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>>14702298
18 hp
1 mana
30 speed
abysmal stats

So this is just the snail race renamed I assume. Also you're just asking for it.
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>>14702298
Hope you not gonna do re tutorial.
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>>14702298
I'll be rooting for you chibika!
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Someone in the last thread said that Opatos' fetters will boost AP gain, is this true? If not, my poor Fron is going to have to deal with having 0 skill points, ever. Starting to question whether her random heals and buggy lightning kick is worth that sacrifice.
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>>14702325
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>>14699884
>>14700026
First time she is being useful.
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>>14702564
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>>14702564
>Why, master... What did i do wrong... Why do i deserve this...
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>>14702564
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>>14702600
>>14702633
>>14702634
Don't be ridiculous of course that bitch gonna like it a lot.
Raphael the guy look like pretty experienced in making girls pleased.

Actually I'm gonna bring him much more trained sluts.
And become a greatest slave maker in whole Nefia!
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>>14702523
That's false, isn't it? Your INI is independent of your current speed.
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>>14702523
I saw this last thread too. It might help a bit but my gut feeling tells me that it might not be enough since speed checks aren't the only things being considered in whether you gain AP or not. The surest way I've found to get AP is simply to keep killing stronger and stronger enemies. For me that was just diving to a certain part of the void and farming enemies there until AP points slowed down. When it did I would just dive down deeper until AP points started coming in fast again. Since monsters scale in the void this works. I'm not too sure how to get AP outside the void after you reach a certain point to be honest. Anyhow, you might as well give what he said a try at least. Hopefully my gut feeling is wrong.
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>>14702686
I'd be careful anon. Someone on /vg/ roguelike did something similar and it didn't end well.

Inside every Roran is a divine spark known to cause gods to tremble in fear if nurtured. That Raphael guy might one day disappear and you'll probably shrug it off. Give it a year or two and that same little girl you left behind you might encounter in a dungeon as a lv 500 little girl that wants nothing more than skull fuck your dead corpse. Anon in /vg/ said he was left a broken and defiled on the cave ground.
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>>14702012
No, sadly.
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Is it possible to change the flavor text on random events? I'd like to change the nightly mutation one to something like: "The Beast God pulls you from your mortal coil and inspects you.."

Along with a picture of a monster from one of the Boorus.
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>>14702686
Why the little girl anon? Out of all the girls you've come across the little girl was the most happy to be at your side. She could of deserted you when your ship got destroyed but she didn't do that. Instead she went town to town asking people if they have seen you. It's pretty scary for an eleven year old to venture forth into the world with nothing but the clothing on her back. Praise Ehekatl that she was looking over the little girl when she was in Derphy asking around.
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>>14702819
I'm assuming no.
Ask Anna about that.
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>>14702826
> Praise Ehekatl that she was looking over the little girl when she was in Derphy asking around.

I know that this bit was a bit of a lore just but Jesus, could you imagine what could have happened? In fantasy novels there's always that one heroine that was enslaved and raped/forced to serve as a child prostitute. Not to mention the demon beasts and other hellish things in Nefia.
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>>14702842
Yeah why even bother about so much used gril.
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>>14702842
See the slave master peddling his inventory which includes little girls? Those were the unlucky ones...
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>>14702857
>>14702923
I wonder if this was the tru-bull Mia saw.
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>>14702842
Elona has some pretty dark themes in it despite its lighthearted oddities. Another example, the beggar corpse you ate in the tutorial, That was Lomias's doing. He killed the guy and fed you his remains to get rid of the evidence. It's possible he also may truly have been trying to earnestly kill you in the tutorial.
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Vernis looks much better with a more detailed rail system.
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>>14702955
I saw that mod on the Uploader but I'm not sure what page it's on or even which tile on the tilesheet it's supposed to go on. Or even what it was originally supposed to be used for.
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>>14702960
Paste it over the rails in map1.bmp
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>>14702972
Thanks. Do you know if there are any other tiles or is this the only one you know of?
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>>14702976
What other tiles? I only have that one for rails.
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>>14702979
other custom tilesheets. Do the x2 spritesheets actually find contents rendered in-game? Like if I ctrl+v'd some nice portraits onto face2 would they eventually find their way in-game?
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>>14702983
I would drop custom portraits for pets in the elone/user/graphic folder and then talk to the pet in game to change the portrait.
Changes to the face1.bmp and face2.bmp in the general graphics folder should work too. I've never done that, but since you can modify every spritesheet like map, item and character, face should also work.
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My only kitty bank is cursed. Is it safe for me to fill it with some gold or what should I do?
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>>14703060
Wiki article doesn't say anything about cursed kitty banks. Go for it.
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>>14703065
Okie
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So right now I'm using my crop to plant majority mixed vegetable/fruit trees, cooking them with a portable tool and eating them. This, I think, trains both cooking and gardening. Is this also a semi-efficient way of training my potentials since I read that good food does that. Not much of what I've been eating has been enhanced and nothing blessed, but still. Most has been jellies, salads and below(?).
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>>14703223
Re-read the food page. They train attributes, not their potential. Only herbs, herbed food and picnic baskets increase potential.
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>>14703223
Invest in those two furniture vendors at the embassy and get a barbecue set for cooking.
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My pet's highest skill is with an axe(24) but on her page her melee1 shows 4d3-6. With twin Wakizaki's her main weapon's is like 4d3-8. Does this mean she'll hit for like 0 damage? That's what I've noticed. Currently equipped with a shitty claw for +3hit and +2damage bonus.
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>>14703263
>twin Wakizaki'
Does she have dualwield?
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>>14703266
Yes. Her accuracy for melee2 ( claw) is -477 though.

With Wakizaki's melee2 is at like, maybe, -88?
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>>14703267
Maybe the claw in melee2 is too heavy. I think it has to be under 1.5s for dualwield.
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>>14703267
How do you hit anything?
Also, a claw/tonfa doesn't actually attack unless you're unarmed. As for the -8 it's not due to skill. Skill modifies the multiplier and the chance to hit. The +-X is only dependant on item quality and material.
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>>14703275
I put my .9s claw in melee2 and a 2.5 in range. Maybe this will raise her accuracy to something approaching reasonable. Will probably need to enhance her axe since she spends a surprising amount of time in acid.

>>14703276
The rare times she hits anything she does literally 0 damage.
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>>14703283
>0 damage
Not entirely sure how damage calculation works, but if it's a simple
>roll
>add/subtract the -8
>multiply by modifier
Then it's normal. With the axe half the rolls results puts you at 0 damage, with twin waki 2 results out of three are also null. IF she manages to hit. Give her dual wield and change her weapons, they're probably made of paper or something.
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>>14703315
I plussed her axe a bit and now it's at +8. That and put a claw in ranged and another in melee2. 92%hit and +10 con. Still a horribly inaccurate pet though.
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Best way to get vomit out of NPCs?
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>>14703259
Said this last thread, but it's so much easier just going on a massacre during a party time quest and pickpocketing a barbecue set there. Not that it's a bad idea to invest in vendors, but this way you get the barbeque set faster (and therefore increase your attributes and your cooking skill sooner)
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>>14703389
I believe I have pickpocket but most things say it's not mine when I try to pick them up. Does that mean my skill needs to be higher before I can start looting indiscriminately?
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>>14703393
You have to pickpocket the tile to steal from stuff on the floor
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>>14703408
I don't have pickpocket, actually. I read that I need to get it from the Thieve's guild trainer? Can I not join the guild and still get the skill somehow?
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>>14703439
>Can I not join the guild and still get the skill somehow
Yes, but it's a little bit tricky. You need to get a disguise set or the spell/scroll incognito. Teleport the guard at the stairs away with a rod of teleportation, get inside the guild, use disguise/incognito so that the members won't attack you. Run to the guild trainer and get pickpocket since the guild leader won't be fooled by your disguise. Get out with a scroll of escape and while escape charges use teleportation scrolls to get away from the guild leader.

Or you can get a scroll of gain attribute and savescum your way to pickpocket with it.
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>>14703469

>Get out with a scroll of escape and while escape charges use teleportation scrolls to get away from the guild leader.

Return works just as well, right? I've found escape to be a tad unreliable due to cargo weights. All in all, this sounds pretty easy.
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>>14703472
>Return works just as well
Sure.
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Is there a way to have longer logs?
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>>14703469
Wow. Holy shit.<sin> is no fucking joke. Good thing I had scrolls of teleportation. I thought they were shit.
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>>14703615
Yeah, the guild leaders pack a punch.
>Good thing I had scrolls of teleportation. I thought they were shit.
Even as a wizard I have a stack of them in my inventory at all times. More than once I found myself in a critical situation and the teleportation spell failed. If I'm really close to death I use a scroll. Not taking any chances anymore.
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>>14703646
I tried to rob the party but for some reason everyone can hear me do it. I've killed everyone near and everyone in the closest area. Do I have go all Freddie Krueger here if I want to have any chance at the BBQ?
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>>14701327
Keep fruit trees in your house for endless free food
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>>14703661
Higher skill in pickpocket makes it easier to steal heavy things and less likely that someone sees/hears you. So yeah, if you want to steal the barbecue set with an unleveled pickpocket skill, go full Hitler.
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>>14703661
Yes. You just need to kill everyone in the immediate vicinity, but murdering the entire place is fine too. You should probably stay away from unique though. If you don't have a barbecue set yet you're probably going to get obliterated by them.
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>>14703679
I tried the immediate vicinity but I kept getting heard. I'm not going to bother with the BBQ just yet. How can I train the pickpocketing skill efficiently? Is there anything like harvest time for it?
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>>14703685
Just dive into the puppy cave or enter the wild in the world map. There are neutral NPCs like punks and fallen soldiers. You can train pickpocket on them. Don't forget to spend some platinum coins and push up the potential.
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>>14703685
Probably someone wandering too close to you. Expand your murder zone, make sure there isn't someone behind a wall or hidden against some prop.
>anything like harvest time
If your pickpocket is really low but you have decent strength, enter the wilderness and steal trees. Or murder everyone around Palmia's throne room and steal everything. Incidentally, the king's bed is a fine piece of furniture.
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>>14703685
>>14703690
Higher speed also helps. So if you're with Lulwy, the ability and a speed potion/spell will make it easier.
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>>14703685
Trees of naked (the dead trees in the wilderness) are the best if you have the strength.

If you get heard, that means someone's still too close, so you have to clear out a larger radius by killing them or teleporting them away.
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Forgoing learning literacy and memorisation should be ok in the long run, since at 300 spell level stocks are used so slowly scrolls of wonder suffice to keep up even with somewhat heavy use, right ?

I'm trying to learn the smallest amount of skills possible to maximise the efficiency of traveling ( and skill dreams/scrolls of growth but travelling is the important factor ).
Shame that all weapon skills are automatically learned on that note, that's ten+skills i could go without.
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>>14702298
Where can I get that PCC and portrait?
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>>14703796
PCC :
http://www.elonaup.x0.com/sozai/src/up4776.bmp

Portrait :
Made it myself ( Save as bmp with paint, 4chan can't into bmp ).
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Boy do I love running around in Palmia for challenge quests, looking for that one monster I'm supposed to kill and then arrive seconds after some random asshole manages to kill it.
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>>14703814
Forgot that the PCC had to be cut, here.
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>>14703814
Thanks
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>>14703784
Doesn't traveling train all skills?
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>>14703881
The master experience sheet says that a random skill receive the experience at each tile traveled.
And Anna looked directly at the code to make that sheet, so it can't be innaccurate.
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>>14703966
praise Anna-sama
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HOLY SHIT! I was just trying to cure sick when I went into party time to die. I just started killing people, trying to trigger a <unique> or overcast but my only over-cast left me alive and I didn't land on any <uniques>. Then I pickpocketed a BBQ. Holy shit.
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>>14703685
Go to the arena, kill everything there, then start pickpocketing EVERYTHING off the floor. Unfortunately you can only do that twice a day (the duel type thing and the one with a bunch of monsters). I'd also suggest hunting if your STR is high enough (around 48 or so?) cause you can do that as any times as it shows up on the job board. That'll get you a few levels in pickpocket, once you're around 10 you should be able to get the BBQ real easy. Good luck!
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>>14704404
I already have the BBQ but I'm going to do all the things you said. They sound good.
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>>14703818
Challenge and Panic quests are utter cancer, I only grinded them for the unclaimed altars. Would be nice if they had an indicator telling you where the nearest enemy is
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If I or a pet already have max +res from a corpse, does the text still show up when it is eaten?
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>>14704404
Oh to clarify about hunting, I meant to kill all the monsters and then pickpocket the trees that you can pick up, hunting itself doesn't give pickpocket xp
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>>14694626
>If someone could re-host this that would be great: https://www.dropbox.com/s/zfjnqpzx7ej4em2/Elona%20-%20Graphic%20Packs.zip?dl=0
Anyone rehosting this yet?
If not, I'll upload it to my own server.
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>>14704423
If it triggers, yes. The res increase message will be followed by "Nothing happens..." to notify you that you've maxed it. Don't know about pets, I assume it works on the same way.
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>>14704458
>Anyone rehosting this yet?
I don't think so but then if someone was I couldn't tell unless they mentioned it in the thread..
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>>14704464
Didn't see it in the thread so I asked.
I'm reinstalling my server atm (never used it and forgot the password), so I'll post it later.
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>>14704487
I don't mind leaving it up and adding some other things from the vanilla elona website like the music packs + the things from the pastebin but my fear is that dropbox has some kind of download cap for non-members. Y'know. Plus I like to retain whatever anonymity I can, especially here on 4chan and I'm not entirely clear if someone can see my throwaway in the link rn....
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>Since I'm trying to get every god gift I often go to the altar in Palmia to make offers
>Once I make a good one I destroy it with a molotov so another godless one respawns
>Since this can wreck half of the Church before I manage to dissipate the flames I tend to stay a little away before throwing one
>The nun always goes to stand on the altar when I do that as if she tried to stop me from throwing the molotov
>Recently the impress level has gotten so low she attacks me on sight
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>>14703548
Hit / on your keyboard. Don't know if there's a way to get anything longer than that.
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>>14703818
Those guards in those quests can actually kill a challenge or panic monster? Wow, the general must have one hellish training regimen.
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>>14703331
The skill body blow or cursed alcohol.
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>>14704730
Rod of teleport is your friend

Unless you're into that, not judging
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Does this thing grant you infinite wishes and domination?
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>>14704941
"Attacking Rods" so probably not. Domination maybe.

Also shit when did this get added? I need to update.
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The way this game letting you know that you forgot to pick up your quest reward is a little cruel.
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>>14704941
Are attacking rods even useful though? I never understood their damage formula.
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What is sleep blanket needed for?
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>>14704594
Maybe it's just me, but 3 different clients wont connect to the server while HTTP works.
Try it, you have upload rights.

waifu.nl
>IP 149.210.203.192
>Port 21
>user ftp
>pass PassWord1234
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