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BABYMETAL & SAKURA GAKUIN GENERAL #164: THIGHPOSTING EDITION
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Daily Reminder Subedition

>FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/eXbByCz3

/wsg/ thread:>>>/wsg/841738

>BABYMETAL WORLD TOUR 2016:
UK (Apr 2)
US (May 4, 7, 8, 10, 11, 13, 14)

>SAKURA GAKUIN:
Open Class (Jan 16, 17)
Spring Hina-asobi 2016 (Mar 6)
The Road to Graduation (Feb 13, Mar 22)

>NEW VIDEOS:
BM: https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/photo/109027926708178880868/6240329931579482354
SG: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3mn41e
NoS: https://youtu.be/JBSEJAlyIF0
Grads: https://youtu.be/J-VZHeSVS5s & https://youtu.be/_ru68LlDQss & https://youtu.be/QCBu2ZBAIvI

>EVERY WEEK:
Sakura Gakuin (Mon 19:00 JST)
http://logirl.favclip.com/live/

Night of Spica (look for ゴロ寝系トーク番組『スピカの夜』 in the calendar)
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/stolabo-tokyo

>MERCHANDISE:
asmart.jp/sakuragakuin
asmart.jp/babymetal
asmart.jp/muto_ayami
http://babymetal.tmstor.es/
http://babymetal.gomerch.com/
http://www.mflstores.com/mfl/babymetal.html/

>THE SPREADSHEET:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1inuuituVibgwZPWlmyll4Q3jLEGQye9PcsGiPZHTU0Y/edit?usp=sharing

>Previously on /bmsg/:
>>14619126
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cant be helped
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I almost forgot who was Ayami
Thanks anon.
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no shitpost edition?
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>>14627938
Oh you.
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Cute girls doing cute things.
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never forget
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>hehe, nice ayaka's anon, don't post them all at once!

no.
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>>14628026
Post more real Ayakas.
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>>14628028
what's a fake ayaka?
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>Ayaka
>not more boh
sm.h
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>>14628040
The one that attracts the faggots
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>>14628044
wakaru
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>>14628053
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>>14627998
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this was the best res i could find, somebody might like it though.
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i'll post this just in case it's somebody's fetish.
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>>14628124
maid, nurse, police...
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>>14628124
Any more OL?
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>>14628135
>脚と足
You got this from leg-lover.com, didn't you?
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>>14628145
>leg-lover.com
>no pics of rei
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>>14628179
nice find
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>>14628145
yeah, google brought me there.

btw this pic and the almost soles from last thread are from a movie called 'leaving on the 15th spring'.
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mfw
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mfw ayaka eats like a horse
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So with the recent amount of Kamis being posted, do you think there are any fujoshis posting or at least lurking itt?
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what do you think she was thinking about?
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>>14628223
i hope not. i hope all our resident female are lesbians.
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>falsefagging
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>>14628206
this one was supposed to come before that one
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>ayaka "spam"
>its ok for that faggot
is it because she does look like fagmura?
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>>14628356
inb4 ohmura flood
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>>14628026
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>>14628558
hi
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>>14628567
How are you doing senpai
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>>14628598
Great! And you??
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>>14628610
Lovin this chat with you!
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>>14628622
Me too! Sorry for late.
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<3
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Gomen I reveal
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Good taste Hinata.
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Can we go back to girlposting now?
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>>14629112
Hii-chan is a girl, no?
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>>14629112
>the_tops_.png
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>>14629101
Pretty sure it was Yunano's pick.
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>>14628980
No problem!
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>>14629150
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>>14629161
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>>14629168
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>>14629175
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>>14629179
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>>14629187
tfw not more oshiris to post
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>>14629200
My turn?
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>>14629205
doso
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>>14629212
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>>14628133
>OL
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<---
THE BEST OSHIRI OMG
<---
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>>14628000
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2o?
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>>14629237
>>14629248
>yuishiris
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>>14629257
>>14629259
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>>14629264
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t-this scaled quickly
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tsuzuku
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Dirty pedophiles
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>>14629339
Hey! I shower atleast twice a day you know.
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>>14629329
ひぃちゃんに浮気された(T_T) もうはな知らん。 堀内さんいるからいいけど。(´-3-`)フン
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>implying
Deep in my heart, I'm an Airin man.
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>>14629251
Maybe this one is even better
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>>14628875
>dat face

>>14627947
I see where the inspiration for Squall came from. Nomura is such an insufferable faggot.
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Is there an HD version of this?
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or this?
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>9000 hours in paint
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>>14629857
It's from their Twitter.
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>>14630045
oh the Japanese one thanks. I've been following the international account on instagram which apparently reposts those same pics.
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*****
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>>14630061
There is no official Sakura Gakuin Instagram account.
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>>14629289
Even then Yui dancing superiority was already present.

- Moa not twisting her heel.

- Hinata over doing the twisting in danger of blowing out knee. Twisting knee instead of heel. Is she trying to get a look at her butt in the mirror?

- Ayami hopping instead of twisting. Doesn't nod head.

- Su's dance is a mess, everything is wrong and she even loses balance. Looks clumsy in a cute way.

- Yui gracefully twist her little heel with just the right amount of hip thrust.

It's all in the small detail. This is why she's TopDancer.
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>>14630758
Good analysis.

Su comment just made me smile.
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>>14630758
I think she's the only SakuGaku to have had dance training prior to joining Sakura Gakuin.

Ever since her early days she's been praised for her skill at dancing (and she loves it) so she must've taken it very seriously and worked extra hard to improve her specialty.
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>>14630817
The way she dribbles the basketball and smiles all the way to the basket makes it even funnier.

Clumsy indeed runs in that family.
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>>14630758
>Su
I think it's because traditional idol dancing is very robotic, the coreographies are for people who don't know how to dance.
Su was infected with it when she was on ASH, but Yui never adopted that philosophy since her roots are on jazz and it paired well with Mikiko style which borrows alot from Jeremy culture.
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>>14630907
>Jeremy culture
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>>14629864
Can someone open that up in paint and write the name of each girl above her head on her chest? I'd like to finally know who's who.
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>>14628000
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>>14631142

not sure of intention but here it is.
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>>14629134
Thanksyou!
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>>14631234
Thanks f a m.
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>>14630907
cheeky cheeky
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Too bad they won't do stuff like this for western audiences.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iq9SEFwJ9ZQ
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>>14631518
but you can have Dragonforce and photos with gaga
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>>14631526
good point
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>>14631518
Wembley or bust.
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What do you expect from the new album family?
Better than BABYMETAL, different sound?
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>>14631697
I saw Road of Resistance as the precursor to where the next album was going to go and most of it seems to hold up.

Less gimmick, more focused. All around, a leaner, meaner album.
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>>14630842
That video is hugely cute
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>>14631751
I think it will be great. RoR is a genuinly good song and from the bootlegs I've heard the new songs sound great too.
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>>14631842
Su mentions that her final goal in life is to be a songwriter. I wonder if anything in the future will have her input or if that is something she would even be willing to pursue with Babymetal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4bRyiF7vG0
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>>14631842
>RoR is a genuinly good
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>>14632022
It is. I agree with him.
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>>14632022
It is, and I think it's the best gateway drug to get outsiders interested in BM.

Moreso than Gimme Chocolate and perhaps Megitsune.
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>>14632066
she is perfect
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>>14632075
She seemed so awkward in SG. Something about how she carried her head and those shoulder pads...

But wow, how she filled in...
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>>14632066
Does she have any talent apart from looking pretty?

She feels like one of these girls that have never had an original thought.

Especially jarring when she shares family name with one of the most intelligent idols (Rena) and one of the most musically talented (Sakiko).
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>>14632163
Did she did rakugo?
Is there a video?
Is it translated?
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>>14632187
looking sexy
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>>14632189
At best, there may be bootleg audio.
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>>14632187
Do models need talents other than looking pretty?
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>>14632187
IDZ family.

She took the shyness as her idol charm point. Probably because she is naturally shy though. But stands to reason that judging her on that basis is seeing only part of the picture.
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>>14632213
There was a short audio clip of Soyo on 2ch. Sounded like an intro of some sort.
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>>14632189
I doubt it, which is too bad because 2ch was raving about her performance. She was quite funny, unsurprisingly.
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>>14632474
Fuck, I want to hear Ooga telling some of those stories in the classical rakugo way.
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>>14632187
ohmurafag detected
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>tfw meant to go to bed about 4 hours ago but ended up staring at pictures of Su instead

Guess I'll just be tired tomorrow then...
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>>14632543
>not recharging from looking at pics of your waifu
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>>14632543
go to bed
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Reminder
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>>14632059
>>14632065
>>14631842
>>14631751

>generic speed metal written by Dragonfarce
>represents Babymetal's sound

>skacore and dad rock being meaner than actual metal-fusion from BABYMETAL the album


the fact that they're going to drop classic live songs to play their new shit really imas my nanji
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>the fact that they're going to drop classic live songs to play their new shit really imas my nanji
This desu.

RoR is arguably Babymetal's worst song ever, and not one person I've shown it to has gotten interested in Babymetal from it. Gimme Choko on the other hand, along with Megitsune, Headbangya, even Onedari Daisakusen, Akatsuki and Iine! are much more "Babymetal".
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>>14632955
Babymetal's "sound" is all over the fucking place. Nobody said it represents it, anyway.

>skacore
>dad rock
Give it a rest already. Your genre know-it-all elitist bullshit is oldhat. Oh, how dare they play their new songs.
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>>14632955
>no more iine
>no more uki
>no more OD
FUCKFUCKFUCK
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>>14632970
I still don't understand how Koba went from Megitsune to ror. How is that possible. Despite both being speed metal, there's a whole hell between those songs.
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>>14632983
>no more eurotrash and beaner rap
>no more dubstep
>no more Limp Bizkit
All of those songs have had people bitching about them like you do with the new songs.
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>>14632983
>no more IMA NANJI
>no more MOSHUSHU
>no more KINKIRARIN
>no more ONE FOR THE MONEY TWO FOR THE MONEY THREE FOR THE MONEY
>no more HEDOBAN HEDOBAN
>no more YON YON
>no more SORE SORE SORE SORE
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>>14632982
>Nobody said it represents it, anyway.

>>14632065
>it's the best gateway drug to get outsiders interested in BM

"oh cool a new Speed Metal band, and they're from Japan, let's see what their other songs are like"

>CHIGAU CHIGAU CHIGAU CHIGAU CHIGAU

they were always about pop + metal, now it's just like hard rock + other hard rock.

>>14632970
exactly, it's one of their most epic live videos on their youtube with the massive crowd and high production values, and yet it's one of their least-watched. It's in their name "babymetal", not "speedmetal"
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>>14632995
Gee, I wonder how collaborating with Dragonforce produced a song that sounds more like Dragonforce.
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>>14633003
lol where do you live
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>>14633010
>dragon force producing the entire new album
FUCKFUCKFUCK
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>>14632995
>Megitsune
>speed metal

>mfw

but yeah I don't know what happened behind the scenes like if he wanted to collaborate with other metal bands first and Dragonforce was like second, third, or even last choice but they accepted or there was some red tape with the record labels.

Like if it was meant to impress metalheads with "oh look at how cool we are, we're really a metal band now that we collaborated with Dragonforce" they're about 10 years too late to capitalize on that.

I don't even recall Dragonforce being one of Koba's really top 10 bands when he listed his top 50 albums in some random Japanese magazine once.

>>14633003
No.
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>>14633017
Except they're not. Stop being pretending to be retarded.
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>>14633019
Yes. Read more metalhead comments around the internet.
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>>14633027
Babymetal was extremely polarizing for metalheads, you either loved them and their innovation or you thought they were just Nu Metal 2.0.

No one was really on the fence and was like "oh I like this song but the next one not so much" it was all or nothing.


At most it was like "lol this wud be better if there wuz no girls they don't even shred guitars or growl theyre faggot posers"
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>>14633010
I think the issue is -why- they would collaborate with Dragonforce in the first place.
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>>14633043
Because it doesn't matter that they aren't "cool" in the west.
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>>14633043
It's because Koba thinks that the way they can break into the Western market is by adding more elements of Western elements into their music, hence the excess English that will be integrated into the new album - not knowing that the main reason people like Babymetal is that they aren't Western, not something we would hear on radio or see on TV like the typical shit we're used to over here.

Liking Babymetal, and other "otaku culture" interests are (excuse my language) an act of cultural rebellion, whether we notice it or not. This is sometimes referred to as "couter-culture".
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>>14633039
It goes beyond that into specifics often enough. Metalheads love to pick apart the things they hate.
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>>14633046
it doesn't matter that it doesn't matter that they aren't cool n the west (anymore), Dragonforce was never cool anywhere in the world for a decade after they went all Guitar Hero.


It definitely feels like they were the third choice who was desperate enough to collaborate with a band fronted from three Japanese schoolgirls and whoever else that was at the top of Koba's list was too busy or too self-important or not approved by Amuse or something.


Plus, if anything it was more a popularity boost for Dragonforce than it was for Babymetal.
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>>14633054
Unless they start singing entire songs in English, I don't think it's in excess. The amount of English isn't that unusual for Japanese artists anyway.
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>>14633070
I'm talking about the new song THE ONE. Road of Resistance has a lot of English in it too, but you wouldn't know unless you looked up the lyrics thanks to Su's Engrish.

There were talks about singing a lot more English in the new album a few months ago so don't be surprised to see more and more of it as new songs are released.
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>>14633070
Their last new song was almost entirely English.
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>>14633072
I'm also talking about The One. It's not excessive.
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>>14633054
yea but still, at least collaborate with a band that complements your sound. Don't jump from metal fusion to generic vanilla speed metal because what's the point.

RoR definitely isn't a Babymetal song in my book, it's a Dragonforce song with Su singing over it.

(even though Kami band plays it better live than DF themselves)
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>BREAKING NEWS: Jap musicians singing in engrish
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>>14633069
I bet the reason is Dragonforce is more popular in Japan.
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>>14633090
nah senpai, 6 year gap between their last two Japanese tours

http://www.dragonforce.com/tours/

they're constantly touring Europe and the Americas and straya every year though.


Only the Koba Knows.
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>>14633123
>posting the inferior version
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>>14633081
Even Ladymeme and Meme Rabbits are hopping on that bandwagon.


Nothing's worse than when a unique group gets popular through their innovation and then they try to get a mass appeal and in the process they dump what made them unique in the first place.
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>>14633140
How long has this bandwagon been around? Since the 60s? 70s?
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I don't even get where the Dragon Force hate comes from. It's just one song. Okay, their version of speed metal isn't your thing, but goddamn it's the end of days in here.
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>>14633148
Probably moreso the 80s, but it depends on the artists' or bands' career.

From the top of my head, Maximum The Hormone has been around for decades and they've yet to put out a song that hasmore than just a few English words in it.

We like Japanese music (partly) because it's Japanese, idk why some producers and other people go "well let's have them sing in English then!"
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It's cool to hate Dragonforce.
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>>14633160
You like it because it's Japanese. Right. So the part of Japanese culture that includes using English because it's just neat, that you don't like.
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>>14633156
It's not really hate, more like befuddled disappointment with that song.

They had a good on-stage dynamic with Babymetal, but other than that the actual song just makes me shrug really hard when I accidentally hear it.
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>>14633163
Is su still doing that thing with her spine?
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>Implying anyone in this thread is impressed by bitching and their genre encyclopedia.

Cry moar. Your tears are delicious. Go listen to Doki Doki Morning and long for the past.
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>>14633172
Well, I like it and I don't accidentally listen to any Babymetal song. I definitely don't shrug at Babymetals songs either.
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>>14633168
>because it's just neat

It's an obvious attempt at trying to appeal to Westerners.

There's nothing inherently wrong with that, but it can lead down a slippery slope of trying to appeal to as much of a mass market as possible and losing that original spark of creativity.

RoR was that first step, and looks like it wasn't the last.
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>>14633187
>moar

pun intended?
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>>14633199
English is very embedded in Japanese culture and language. Pretending that isn't the foremost reason is dumb.
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>>14633199
Japs use engrish in songs never even intended for other markets.
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>>14633213
Same with South Korea and the Philippines.

Self absorbed Americans think everything is about sucking their cock.
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>>14633225
> everyone typing in english on the internet must be american.
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Oh noes, normies are going to understand my BM songs now! I'd love a song entirely in English.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YGwUhg2XNk
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>>14633213
>>14633218
yeah but I'm a liiiiiiitle suspicious of being pandered to when a Japanese band only now suddenly starts incorporating English into their songs once they get into an English-speaking market.

There's nearly more English lyrics in RoR alone than there is in the entire BABYMETAL album
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>>14633242
No one complains about stupid shit like an American.

Unless that non American is truly pathetic.
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>>14633251
> because only Americans complain about stupid shit.
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So, Japan, known for exporting electronics, anime, and video games now has the rare instance of having a big musical export and may attune for the world market like all non-fuckhead companies must do in order to perform...

...And this is a bad thing...?

Seriously the lack of priority in people's heads is why we can't have nice things. They're a real band now. Grow up and deal with it.
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>>14633269
If you like games like Yakuza: Dead Souls and Yaiba: Ninja Gaiden Z then you should be happy.
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>>14633269
>anime

Imagine if anime series were suddenly being produced immediately with English dub instead of Japanese voice actors, and you could only get the "localized" versions where onigiri are called jelly donuts and all comical accidental boob-grabbing has been edited out to accommodate Christian American values.
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>Q: In the end, people in foreign countries were unexpectedly hyped. What did you think was a reason of the success?

>Koba: I think it’s amount of time and effort that we have been taking since the beginning. We never released a song with compromise, but made our best songs as we could. It hit foreign people I think. When I had a talk with media people they said its sound was cool and they have never seen these joyful metal before including performances of these three.

>Q: As a conclusion, no compromise policy is a good decision.

>Koba: I think so. There’s often the case that an original concept gets unfocused by increasing voices when a project gets bigger. But as the case of Babymetal we didn’t care about tying-up promotions from the beginning, took our own way. So I never thought that we had to adopt, or sing in English cause we were going overseas.

>Q: There is nothing changed in particular?

>Koba: Nothing. Just dubbed and subbed presentation movies in English, that played in our lives. Some request for the sub and dub but others do otherwise, I think neither is wrong. It means that they would be disappointed if wrong localization was made. It’s like we don’t have to localize Ramen (noodle) when people expect a genuine Ramen in Tokyo. Babymetal might be the same for them.
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> censored jap porn

lel
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You guys don't get it. Some English in their songs like in the BABYMETAL is fine. But there were talks of Babymetal singing more and more in English simply to appeal more to the Western audience.

If they have to compromise any of their originality, and say "fuck you" to their main, loyal fan base in Japan (approx. 100,000) for a few thousand Western fans then it isn't worth it.

They have already started by changing some of their 'crowd participation' lines to English from Japanese, and it feels out of place. I would really dislike it if they were to go all-English like that one anon is asking for.

>They're a real band now.
They are 3 idols with a backup band. "Babymetal" is Su, Yui, Moa. Kami Band just plays the instruments in the back.

>>14633284
This is a good analogy, thanks anon.

>>14633290
When was this interview done? I'm pretty sure I remember the talk of more English being integrated in the future.

>So I never thought that we had to adopt, or sing in English cause we were going overseas.

>unveiling Road of Resistance, a song with lots of English, in London
>not "adopting" and singing English cause they are going overseas
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>>14633284
Davido-kun , is that you?
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>>14633284
What a great analogy. So, they replaced the Babymetals with Americans and censored the lyrics?
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>>14633295
>crowd participation lines in Japanese
>for a non Japanese speaking crowd
Sure. That makes sense.
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>>14633290
What is Road of Resistance?
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>>14633304
I mean they have changed their crowd participation lines to English even for their Japanese shows.
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>>14633295
It was January, last year. Post-RoR.

Look at the key words. He's not doing it just because they're going overseas.
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Hopefully 2016 will be the year of Taguchi 2.0
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I can't wait for Ayami to return and save us from Babymeme.
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>>14633290
>tfw you're usually the first on the frontlines of the Koba Defense Squad
>mfw you have nothing to defend those words and then those actions
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>>14633311
>barely any English in any of their songs
>suddenly, in London, reveal a song nothing like their previous style, produced by a semi-retired English power metal group
>lots of English incorporated in RoR
>followed by this interview >>14633290

What do you gain from sucking so much Koba cock you cuck?
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>>14633309
What are you talking about? It's mostly Japanese in the Yokohama and Countdown shows.
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>>14633311
>Look at the key words.

I'm looking at all of the words, and they're 180 to his actions.

>>14633314
>in b4 ayameme comes out with a surprised album of Nirvana cover songs
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>>14633325
Yeah, Koba is a good businessman and a strategic producer.

Fuck him right?
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>>14633325
>>14633179

Also god damn Moa looks really happy there
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>>14633331
Koba is not a businessman, he's a producer. He started off well with Babymetal but he's been making all the wrong decisions ever since Babymetal went "big" overseas.
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>>14633331
>alienate Japanese fans
>alienate Otaku fans
>lukewarm response from "real metalheads"
>lukewarm response from general audience

RoR was one of the biggest blunders in BM history desu senpai
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>>14633325
>>14633330
They're not 180 to his actions. He's explaining the motive is not to just impress foreigners. If anything, it's because so many of his favorite songs are in English.
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>>14633332
She often looks like she's someone that enjoys life a little bit more.

And she's a basket case when she gets emotional. She's got a big heart.
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>>14633336
>>14633339
Good thing the sales reflect that. Oh, wait. No they don't.
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>>14633336
>>14633339
All I hear is "WAAA MY BABYMETAL DOESN'T FIT IN MY BACK POCKET ANYMORE!"
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>enjoys life
>a big heart
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>>14633339
This. Put any of the other songs from the first album (except maybe IDZ) performed at SSA into a MV and it'd do much better than RoR and attract many more fans.

Why do you think Gimme Chocolate did so well? It was because it was _different_ from what everyone is used to and it's harder to digest than a song like RoR which doesn't really stand out for anyone.

>>14633343
It's not like fans will stop buying Babymetal merchandise and going to Babymetal shows just because they don't like the general direction Babymetal is going with RoR.
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>>14633343
>The album quickly rose to number 1 on both the US and UK iTunes Metal charts. It reached number 1 on the Japanese Oricon Daily Chart and peaked at number 4 on the U.S. Billboard Heatseekers chart as well as 187 on the Billboard 200.

Yeah, what a fuck up. Koba really screwed the pooch.
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>>14633348
Fanbases tend to die out when they overwhelmingly dislike such a direction. You're full of shit.
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>>14633343

but they do

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_of_Resistance#Charts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimme_Chocolate!!#Chart_performance

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megitsune#Charts

Megitsune was released before Babymetal went viral and it sold more than RoR
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>>14633353
>sales = quality
Kill yourself.
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>>14633364
Hard work gets rewarded.

What has the world come to?
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>>14633353
Senpai, RoR wasn't included on the original album until its re-release a year later as a bonus track.
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