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onahole a shit
What did you guys do directly after the first time you used an onahole?I couldn't help but try to suck my sperm out of it.
Still looking for a Kupa LO. If anyone finds some somewhere let me know.
Still kindly looking for any feedback on Puni Fuwa Mocchi!
>>14555211
Since she is eating it too and...
>>14552216
>>14554379
personally, I would not recommend eating the lube and cum, but... if you want to, for science?
Although Egashira already tried out some lube;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh_ET6bUrxc
So I asked an English onahole vendor in Japan who I shall not name (for now) if it would be possible for me to have other items delivered to them from other vendors and have it included in in my purchase from them, thus saving me having to pay for 1 more international shipping. They said it was alright and I'm just waiting for a confirmation on the address I should have it delivered to.
I'm now wanting to buy some TOMAX onaholes from Daimaoh.co.jp but don't know what 2 I should get. If you could choose 2 TOMAX gonaholes, what would you get?
Also what other things do they sell at daimaoh? I want to buy a eromanga too or something neat.
Anyone own Miracle Angel Hips? Can't link cause spam warning, but I must know how this glorious booty is.
>>14555323
Venus Real Soft and the Venus Clone Regular.
Also I'd suggest getting a pillow hugger too so you can mount the onaholes without using your hand.,
http://daimaoh.co.jp/item4506.html
>>14555321
It was my first hip i ever tried. It is great for the price (on sale when i got it), and the ass on it makes it awesome to grab. Sadly i cant get much use out of the actual holes on it, if i get even halfway in i end up coming out of the other side of the hole (makes for easy cleanup tho). However i am 7-8 so mileage may vary. I got a Cocolo later and it is amazing, if only it had an ass like the Mocchi it would be my favorite.
>>14555321
>>14555516
Looks pretty good, but how do you clean something like that up?
>>14555321
Hey anon thanks for answering me. That video made my sides hurt but also made me disgusted. I think I'll stop eating it now.
i want to make a cunnilingus asmr video using my onahole as a model. which lube tastes the best?
>>14555603
Flavored lube
the kunoichi soft I ordered is too soft.. and the virgin age admission hard I ordered is way too hard.. I think I'll only stick with "normal" holes now
>>14555726
Alright Goldylocks.
Happy new yeah /ona/, here's a toucan, you deserve it!
>>14551428
http://webmup.com/
>>14555824
You too.
How much cum did your onaholes extract this year everyone? I think I got around 8 liters.
>>14555473
Thanks, that pillow hugger looks very useful. Anyone else object to the 2 onaholes this anon mentioned?
>>14555321
I'd really like this one (linked in quoted post) or https://www.toydemon.com/magic-face-oral-masturbator - is it smarter to begin with a smaller, more desecreete sleeve as your first item, perhaps?
>>14555211
http://onahodouga.com/archives/55441661.html
The Seventeen Bordeaux Soft has the same internal tunnel as the Seventeen Bordeaux, but has a softer and stretchier outside?
why do my toys always break... I take good care and even go very slow most of the time but in the end they always end up tearing.
Are there any toys you guys have used that are extremely durable?
This time I'm thinking of getting something atleast $100-130 if it will help with durability, avoided it because they always broke.
Maybe i'm doomed.
Do you use a condom?
>>14556400
No.
Hey /ona/. Would you guys be interested in a much more detailed guide, hosted as a google doc instead of plain text, for accessibility and more available depth, similar to the buyfag guide? This way, Rjob and I won't take weeks for updates if we share or update information if we both have editing access to it, and we can actually have pictures without needing to link. I can see that there's already a lot of questions, especially regarding medical concerns, that don't get answered at all in the guide.
>>14556525
Yeah I'd like that, I think it would look a lot better than the pastebin.
>>14556525
Go for it. Just make sure that it isn't a laggy piece of shit like google docs often are.
>>14556347
It will be difficult to work out why or recommend anything without knowing your size, anon. That said, R20 is extremely durable and, according to the Pastebin, Tomax holes are as well.
>>14555542
Normally in the tub. Run water into it to wash it out, then dry the inside with microfiber cloths. Some peroxide or rubbing alcohol if you really need it clean.
Hey guys, so im thinking of replacing my sleeve that i've had for about a year. It was some pipedream brand one I bought at a local adult store. I'm thinking of getting the Maria Ozawa one from toydemon. You guys think I should go for it?
Opinions on You're My Idol? I've seen it compared to Lolinco, is it as hard to clean as that is?
Is it safe to use 90% isopropyl alcohol to clean an onahole even if its mixed with water?
Just creampied my onahole
Happy new year.
>>14556686
Do not use solvents on your plasticunt.
>>14556686
I use Hoppe's to clean mine.
>>14556686
Just use hand soap and if you want to, ona clean. Ideally clean it shortly after climax. Even the harder to clean holes like lolinco never seemed like much of a hassle to me.
>>14556711
>>14556721
>>14556744
Alright thanks guys, duly noted.
>>14556693
Congrats.
>>14556721
I like CLP
What do you guys do with tight onaholes and cumming inside them? it feels weird to cum inside mine since it feels as though there isnt enough room for it.
>>14556781
>it feels as though there isnt enough room for it.
Isn't that half the fun? Filling up your fake vagina full of cum that it can barely handle.
What are the best tight holes? Assuming average size dong.
Ex-neet who's trying to spend his wagecuck bux for the first time here. Are Meikis still worth getting these days? Thinking of getting YYY and Sarah.
https://en-nls.com/quickview.php?pid=25828&c2=9999
https://en-nls.com/quickview.php?pid=27555&c2=9999
And looks like there's a triple-layer Meiki now too.
Help a senpai out here desu.
>>14556817
Best I've tried was lolinco. Deliciously tight. Haven't tried any others that are meant to be super tight though.
>>14556875
>deliciously tight
For the first few uses, maybe.
>>14556817
Virgin Age Admission is a dick bully.
Asked this last thread but didn't get a reply, hopefully ill have more luck in this one. Has anyone tried any onaholes for the a10 vorze? The official sleeves durability is just awful.
>>14556881
>Virgin Age Admission is a dick bully.
my dick has a hard time dealing with the virgin age, apparently i hear theres a hard version of it, I dont think i could handle that.
I know J-list is a shit site, but they have a much wider selection of onaholes these days, is it still a bad idea to shop from there?
>>14556951
I'm sure it's lolitastic.
>>14556954
>I know J-list is a shit site...
Could've stopped there and answered your own question. Only reason to use them is if they've got something there you can't readily find elsewhere.
>>14555211
>want one
>live with parents though
I'm far too much of a coward to risk having my family think even less of me by having them see it arrive in post.
>>14557139
I live with my parents. I also forgot my onahole on a counter after cleaning it. It "magically" appeared in my room later. No one said anything about it.
You know your parents, so you be the judge.
>>14556951
Going "hard" for my next one seems like not a bad idea. Is it more painful for those who have tried one? Seems like a good change of pace.
>>14556951
>>14557278
I got the va:a hard yesterday in the mail, and I don't recommend it at all, shits extremely tight and painful, my dick felt like it would've bent in half if I made one wrong move, and it also kept forming a vacuum and it would basically fart and spit lube out everywhere
I'd rather just stick with my trusty lolinco
>>14557307
I kind of like it when my va;a farts while im fucking it.
its way too tight though, im afraid of hurting my dick, like when I was looking at it after pulling out it was a whole shade lighter
its too much pressure and it doesn't feel very good
and on the other hand, the kunoichi soft is wayy too soft and I feel barely any pressure at all... and after cleaning it with ONLY water it got really sticky and starting melting into itself
what a waste of money..
Anybody use a vibrating bullet in their butt?
Thinking of buying one
>>14557345
Bullets have really flimsy wires and can snap at a moment's notice. Just get a dildo, butt plug or prostate stimulator with a vibe function. Alternatively, rewire it yourself and make your own with the toy kit on NLS.
>>14557355
Not really interested in a dildo or vibrating prostate massager being I already own a helix syn.
Nls labels this as anal goods: http://en-nls.com/pict1-42314?c2=13001010
But the last thing I want to do is lose something in my arse as I'm pulling it out.
Never going to stick something in me that I've made from a diy kit.
>>14557455
Just poop it out, it's what your butt does.
I've currently own: kunoichi, tsurupeta soft, MoT and Rina.
Planning on get venus real in soft, another bootle of lube and I've place for one more onaho but I can't decide what get. I would rather not buy lolinco because I can't handle tight holes for more than 3min and I think it would be a waste.
I'm thinking about squemate hole, flat laboratory/you're my idol or lilith uterus, opinions? Or maybe should I get that hands-free kit from tomax or there's some good hole I missd?
how big exactly is the puni hole dx? like does anyone have a picture of a size comparison or anything? I want to eventually get one, but the only thing that worries me is storing and hiding it
http://strawpoll.me/6418898
>>14557642
I wish I could transform into a girl to be used as a fucktoy
>>14557340
>tfw I could get the kunoichi to make me cum super fast
It's all about learning how to use the hole.
>>14556538
>>14556539
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cn9Oh-iaNEjoGp7OpT0Qrr5SMKvu6OGNm9jZRx9xIC8/edit?usp=sharing
I'll be working on formatting in the future, making it look pretty, bullet points instead of numbers, adding pictures. I'll include reworked images to be included in the document instead of opening externally. I'll be adding the missing text when I get to it.
What can I use for cleaning apart from liquid hand soap and a specialized product?
Receiving soon, I hope, my first toy
>>14558095
Your mouth and suction.
Alternatively you could usemy mouth
>>14558106
No, that's not good
>>14555516
Thank you for the feedback anon!
I'm average sized, so I guess the head might still poke out, but I'm really curious about it.
>>14555933
First item as in an onahole or a large hole/hip?
If you are new to the experience, I'd definitely recommend using a few smaller onaholes first.
As for the two in question;
Magic Face is more difficult to clean since it's not an open ended hole.
It also seems to fall forward from its own weight so I'm not sure how comfy or easy it would be to hold/mount/fuck.
But check out the review onahodouga did;
http://onahodouga.com/archives/55303101.html
The included game is a nice addition, but you can find the images on exhentai anyway.
Both items have the same amount of extra lube, but Mocchi's canal length is quite short.
For this price range, I'd personally choose the Puni Fuwa Mocchi. 2 holes, a hip is much sexier, but maybe I'm a bit biased since I've been eyeing it for a bit now.
>>14558095
Just plain warm water is fine; nothing else is required.
How do you clean hips?
>>14558265
With your tongue.
>>14558265
ingenuity
Is it needed and wise to clean before the first use?
>>14558336
Needed? Not necessarily. Wise? Of course. Wash it well anon.
>>14555300
Wondered how the fuck to clean it.
>>14558336
I didn't bother and I've still got my dick
FUCK YOU AMAZON JP SHIP TO MY GOD DAMN ADDRESS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Is there any good loli holes that are tight but soft too? Any I can think of is gitb only.
Anyone tested that?
If I insert onhole to that, isn't it tighter due to being squeezed?
how much does it weigh?
Anyone tried prostate simulators/simulation or butt plugs? I'm quite curious to know how it is.
>>14558394
Huh
So I just found out that marketplace vendors on amazon.co.jp actually do ship internationally
>>14558444
Holy fuck amazon.co.jp marketplace is actually cheaper than en-nls
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YES
>>14558498
what did you order?
>>14558502
Just changed my order, now is a Rina
Here's some data
Rina via amazon.co.jp marketplace:
3,178Yen / 24.3 Euro total
Rina via EN-NLS with e-packet
3,935Yen / 30 Euro total
>>14558516
Big Rina or normal Rina?
OtonaJP has 8% off
>>14558533
Normal Rina
On otonajp normal rina with cheapest shipping to my place is 32Eur
Did some more calculating, for small orders of one hole only the amazon.co.jp marketplace is by far the cheapest (I'm talking 20% cheaper here, shipping is like 7 Eur / 900Yen), if you have 3 to 4 holes in a single package it's about equal to en-nls, for large orders en-nls is cheaper
>>14558516
>>14558533
>>14558549
HOLY FUCK
HOOLLLYYY FUCK
AMAZON MARKETPLACE WITH THE SUPER LOW SHIPPING COSTS IS BELOW THE EU IMPORT FEES THRESHOLD
THAT MEANS THE PRICE IN AND OF ITSELF IS ALREADY 20% LESS, PLUS AN ADDITIONAL SAVED 19% TAXES/CUSTOMS
I
AM
HYPE
How is pic related?
Can't find the Nippon name of it so unable to view reviews while I did manage to find reviews of their other products.
>>14558568
>ちつにく
>Vagina Flesh
God bless you japan
>>14558579
Thanks man, now I can look up the reviews
>let's buy something from otonajp and see how they hold up
>oh what's this Daisuki Hold one
>>A Daisuki Hold is when the girl hugs you very tight during sex. The word "Daisuki" is basicly translated meaning that someone likes you, so it si the very tight hug a girl that madly loves you would give you during sex.
;_;
fuck you
>>14558563
What? But amazon doesn't worldwide ship.
>>14558752
Marketplace does, http://www.amazon.co.jp/s/ref=sr_pg_1?me=A3WHBVER6NZHX&rh=i%3Amerchant-items&ie=UTF8&qid=1451661688 for instance
>>14558650
「大好き」っていう言葉の意味を先に知ってないの
>>14558856
I didn't know what the fuck a ＞大好きHold is supposed to be you unbearable faggot
>>14558879
How can you not understand what that means?
>>14558549
Did you ask them to remove box packaging, or are you chancing it?
>>14558761
>http://www.amazon.co.jp/s/ref=sr_pg_1?me=A3WHBVER6NZHX&rh=i%3Amerchant-items&ie=UTF8&qid=1451661688
Well I just tried ordering some onatsuyu to Canada and it says it won't ship to my adress
>>14558997
>Canada
I'm actually laughing right now
Have a link to the specific product? Maybe that one's an exception
>>14559000
Guess they just aren't shipping to canada, one bottle of ona tsuyu is ￥ 2,115 total to europe
>>14558906
Don't think you can ask them to remove packaging, but since the shipping is so low it'll be considered a low-value package where I live, meaning customs don't give a shit
>tomax hole lasts as long as my entire bottle of ona tsuyu, and said tomax hole is the only hole I've been using in months
>still no tears or anything
>meanwhile shitty magic eyes dual layer holes break down after a dozen uses
>>14556840
that thing is super short, like 4 inches total length, so the tunnel is probably only 3.5 inches long, and its $70 usd.
IMO not worth it unless you have a tiny dick and like throwing money away.
>>14559045
As a Britfag, our customs may give shits nonetheless given what our loli laws are like.
>>14559200
The only time customs have opened my package was when I ordered a Seifuku and it looked like an illicit bag of cocaine, or something, how they'd wrapped it.
>>14558417
any amazon link for this?
I am seriously considering starting a small amazon.de marketplace, I've already got a company running on my name anyway.
Germany doesn't have super strict loli laws regarding packaging, so I could import from JP (and assuming I haven't missed any hidden costs I could massively undercut omochadreams) and since I'm selling from Germany Britbongs / EU citizens won't have to deal with customs
Omochadreams seems to be doing really well and they're essentially overpricing by 50 fucking %
convince me not to
>>14559325
Think anyone objecting to starting competition is a dumbass.
Competition is good, go for it.
I think a lot of euros (myself included) would appreciate competition to the current sellers
>>14557538
I know this is late as all hell, but what type of 'size comparison' would you be looking for? Compared to one's hand? To the box it comes from? A pillow..? To one's dick?
Give me some grounds to work with you and I can see about getting a picture comparison. If you want multiples, let me know. Do note I don't exactly have a good camera so it'd all be cellphone snaps at best.
>>14558265
Microfiber? I have Puni so I just run it through (I can fit my hand enough inside to grab the other end of the towel and bring it through).
>>14558336
What >>14558341 said. I personally say clean it. Don't risk it anon, we had a guy last thread who got a kidney infection due to using old cum as lube.
>>14559325
What >>14559360 said. You just gotta know the marketplace. If there is demand, and you provide supply, there is profit to be made for the wise man.
I'm not EU yet but I will be eventually so if you do let us know anon, I might want things in the future.
>>14556575
Cant say i agree on the R20's durability. My R20 has a pinhole on the back and now leaks lube when in use. Worst of all is that glorious vacuum effect is ruined.
Its only 6 months old and used it maybe once a week.
>>14559325
>Germany doesn't have super strict loli laws regarding packaging
They sell the Cocolo without the packaging though.
Buy yeah the EU could use some more onahole sellers.
>>14559482
That's dictated by MagicEyes and their distributors though
>>14558161
I just found the thread randomly (never go on /jp/) and thought, hey, this looks pretty neat. I have a pretty strong oral fetish, so that's why I'd consider that one in particular (largely from appearance). Otherwise I'd probably go with a smaller, more regular onahole of some kind (maybe the whatever it's called, 17 double sleeved thing).
It'd be like a moving-out-of-home-present, since I'd have the freedom to actually use something as silly as a male masturbatory toy whenever I wanted to without having to schedule several hours where I'd be sure everyone was away.
Does anyone else find it a shame to order without the packaging? The box art for many onaholes are kinda cute.
>>14557931
teach me your techniques!
>>14559379
if you could have a side by side picture of the hip next to a normal shoebox, I would really appreciate it anon!
>>14559325
>convince me not to
Why would anyone in this thread do that
>>14559325
Shit, I was pondering to do this in Spain, but a few things were keeping me from doing it
>>14559562
>Shoe box
Uhhh... does a box for boots work too? Size US 10 1/2. I don't have normal shoes anymore, working on farms for so long (8yrs) got sick of sand and other shit sitting in the bottom of my soles.
Included Puni box as well to help.
Let me know if you need anything more and I'll try to accomodate best I can.
>>14559609
What was stopping you?
>>14559629
The loli factor, I really have a problem with that
I know it's a toy, but makes me uncomfortable.
>>14559620
thanks anon, the picture still helps, but I just have another small question, can it fit inside of a toy bag? how do you store it?
>>14559642
If my bed was any indicator, my room is a bit of a mess. I just keep it in the box and put said Puni box into the original packaging box and slide it under my bed.
Then again, I live practically alone minus a few visitors/family on Saturday, so I get luxury to stuff things wherever.
I'd need an idea of what type of toy bag we're talking before I can say yay/nay.
>>14557455
Have you tried putting a vibrator on the end of the Aneros while you have it in?
>>14558427
Takes a while to get used to, and it's not great for everyone. That said, I enjoy it a lot. I got the Helix Syn as my first toy and still use it more than my high end massager. Have you tried using your fingers at all yet?
>>14559620
Toss the hip, fuck the boots. Those are HOOOOT AF girl!Seriously tough, why not something everyone has at home that is standardized, like a dvd box.
>>14559325
Do it, faggot. Customs-free shipping within the EU would be your main selling point. From a central point - Germany, you could ship everywhere quickly. Maybe see what deal you can get with someone like DHL, and shipping door-to-door to countries that normally don't do that much should be affordable to you as a company.
Why not? Do it. You can probably get some small business incentive thing (money, help to get started) if you can convince them that you have a market for the stuff you're planning on selling.
>>14559678
not the same person you're responding to but can you tell me how you use yours?
I tried lying down to my side and trying to "massage" it using my pc muscles but it's either I'm not doing it right or i just don't feel it rubbing against my prostate. I ended up using my hands (thrusting it in and out) instead but it only made me pee as I kept doing that. maybe i thought about attaching a bullet vibrator like >>14559661 suggested or get the vibrating ones (which are pricey) or larger sized one
>>14559737
I'd literally just be using (prime capable) amazon fulfillment / storage / shipment EU wide, it's dirt cheap
The main issue seem to be the fucking japanese bulk suppliers / wholesale, they really don't care about anything that's not japan
>>14559722
If he wants it (or anyone else) I'll grab it. It's a good point to try to stick to standardized things for comparisons.
Boots are nice, I used to have S&W boots for a while but those wore down too easily. Got both for deals though so I ain't complainin'.
HNY and all that. I'll hopefully be seeing your folk before the end of 2016, planning on movin' to Denmark (I ain't going to move to Germany with this whole refugee shit). We can go grab beers or someshit sometime.
>>14559747
>I'd literally just be using (prime capable) amazon fulfillment / storage / shipment EU wide, it's dirt cheap
Well I don't know what you use to ship with.
Maybe you should come up with some numbers, start small and see if you can get somewhere. Bah, I'm probably not helping here at all. I really think you should try it, though. Good luck!
>>14559761
>Denmark
Neat.
>>14559761
i meant the toy bag from en-nls, but if u could make a dvd box comparison that'd be p. cool too
>this is the repackaged australian version
>>14559832
She looks like she is 20 years older..
>>14559832
Fuck this gay country.
>>14559832
top kek
Am I only one who picks based on box artstyle?
I really like the girl on Lolinco box. Anyone knows the artist?
>>14559325
If i had starting capital, i would've already done it. Even if i stock only popular holes, i can offer a "request" service for special wishes. Starting to stock tomax, magic eyes and toys heart's most popular holes and after enough profit slowly build up a little assortment. My advertisement would beginn at reddit, the more basement kid i can appeal to the better.
>>14559761
>I ain't going to move to Germany with this whole refugee shit
Good boy, take me with you, i can cook.
>>14559872
>>14559832
>17
>>14559872
>>14559832
>3dpd
>>14559798
Yeah, don't have that toy bag to be accurate, but the toy bag extra large is listed at 34cm... roughly 13 inches. That's a very close call if it'll fit... The long end of a DVD is 7 1/8'', and that doesn't even account for height, which the Puni is fairly hefty. Google search DVD size if you want.
Here's an image with the DVD boxes, I pulled whatever was quickest, I actually found out from this I have more VCR's in my home than DVD's... which is astonishing.
Hope this all helps. In any case, you'll likely need the extra-large bag if you want to store it like that, and that bag would be very filled with the Puni alone, if it happens to fit.
What's a good high stimulation onahole? I have the Zero Spiral in hard and I love it. Looking for something else, tighter I guess, more suction.
>>14559902
thanks again anon for the pictures and everything! I have a good feel about the size and all of it, I'll most likely order one down the line and these pictures were very helpful
>>14559832
This is a shoop you made right? I can't believe they're selling that anywhere on the planet
>>14559548
You just need to find a way to get the perfect amount of lubrication and suction so it hugs onto your penis all over, and doesn't want to let go during thrusts.
>>14559951
Glad to help, it's frustrating that while highly recommended, there's so little review data on it for people to base their judgement on.
I'm tempted to find a video recorder that isn't of shit quality as my flip phone is and just do a 4chan anon review for people.
>>14559885
>Good boy, take me with you, i can cook.
Actually, I have intentions to work on some things mechanical/engine related in the future. If you had skills in that and what was it, a Eurozone work pass or someshit? I think I could bring you to Denmark when I get there on grounds of employment that way.
But this is getting a little silly to fill up Onahole central with our ramblings (not our blog). You're a fun anon to talk to, got a means to chat about shit or even just yammer about how bad things've gotten?
>>14559902
How is cleaning of that thing?
>>14559885
>If i had starting capital, i would've already done it.
You don't have any small business/entreprenur programs in germany to help you get started? If there's a market for it, they should be interested in helping you out.
>>14559991
Microfiber or paper towel (prefer former to avoid damage), lay it flat, angle it 45 degrees, wrap it up into a slim form, push into hole gently until nearly wrapped up inside, open up back hole (it's rubber, it can stretch), grab other end, and pull...
very...
fucking
GENTLY
And once it comes out, repeat for other hole, even if not used. Since both holes conjoin near the end, fluids will spread so it's best practice to clean both regardless of use.
You can actually hold it upside down, put water down one end (vag/anus), and have it come back up through the other if there's enough water pressure, as an example. So just clean both.
Also, as said in the guide, when cleaning the outside, PAT with whatever you clean it with. Don't rub, drag, pat it. That's about it. Takes me all of like... 2 minutes total after use, then I put it back in packaging and slide it under bed.
Well I just found out why EU-based onahole retailers are so fucking expensive
It is literally impossible to do business with japanese bulk supplier. I wouldn't be surprised if some of these shops are importing from en-nls directly
>>14558568
>Can't find the Nippon name of it...
For similar searches in the future just find the product on the english version of NLS, remove the first "n" from "en-nls.com/productid", enter and copy paste name in bold letters and you're set.
>>14559986
I think the camera of a flagship smartphone is good enough for this purpose, the only hindrance for me to do this too is the lack of an additional arm.
As european you can work in every EU country (there are some exceptions). After 3 months you should get a visa, which is no problem as long as you have an employment and health insurance, so the goverment sees you're not just a wellfare collectiong hobo or some shit (that what i've read and heard at least).
I'm still waiting for that /ona/ irc to chat with some folks. (would also decrease the traffic of the general)
Enough off-topic for today or i'll get called a cunt again.
>>14560010
Yeah they have, but they want to see a bit of start capital and a 2 years plan on your expected incomes and expenses, stuff like that.
Well, i've just started to get my high school diploma so i've less time next to part time job and professional masturbating to start a bussines.
I'm having a friend in Japan order me Rina. Will there be any problems sending it and getting it through customs?
Won't get stopped for loli right?
>>14560114
This is being sent to the US.
>>14560121
you're gucci, freedombro.
Okay, I'm trying to work out hotpowers. I clicked the order button down the bottom and it gave me two choices. I think 1 of them added the product to my cart? How the fuck do I get to my cart now?
t. non-jap speaker
Is Cocolo supposed to be a hip or a large onahole? Is it any good hands-free?
>>14556525
If we're going to try a different format we need to go through some design choices and other information. We already tried this once and that project went belly up.
>>14560079
We could do a discord server or something.
Do burgers also pay 20% customs like the yurops?
>>14559509
Ah, so you are new to onaholes.
Definitely go with something smaller and cheaper first.
If oral's your thing, then browse the blow-job types;
http://en-nls.com/plist_t-12001217
You will alo soon stumble upon Mouth of Truth, but that's really not intended for first-timers.
Personally I've been eyeing the "F&F Fella & Fxxk" too as of late.
http://en-nls.com/pict1-43579?c2=9999
It looks cheap, but thinking about breaking both holes makes me diamonds.
Which reminds me, did anyone try it yet?
>>14560174
we pay nothing besides shipping. unless its over a certain amount which is somewhere in the 1000s
>>14560185
wait what
holy fuck how is that fair in any way
>>14560194
Its not. Its a perk of being in freedomland.
>>14560162
Worth a shot i'd say.
>>14559325
Germanfag here, please do it.
>>14560194
Australia is the same. No extra cost unless you go over 1000.
We're one of the most taxed nations in the world too, but somehow we dodged this kind of tax. Not that it has stopped the protectionists from trying. The last 10 years has seen a ton of calls for import taxes on small goods because ebay is killing small business or something bullshit. Basically Jews complaining but our population just wants cheap shit so they lose.
>>14560194
It's the same in Australia too. No Customs import fees unless it's over $1000. It's so people who shop internationally aren't punished, but businesses are.
>>14560140
Please help, the hotpowers guide begins at the cart.
>>14559832
Looool, what a joke nation.
Does anyone know of any vibration plates/surfaces/tables that can be used to give oscillating motion to hips? All I can find is expensive work out equipments around $1000.
>>14560194
Meanwhile I'm about to pay the highest rate import tax in the world next week.
27%
Plus handling fees, so it will be around 1/3rd of my total order.
Sad times.
>>14560358
You from Hungary? Well, at least you aren't a Slav.
>>14560214
Made a server, first time using this chat programm.
I guess i have to share this link to invite buddys???
https://discord.gg/0jvY53qVKTl333pf
>>14557139
dont let your parents get a chance to open the box
EU Fags:
Are you always paying the ~20% VAT, or are you getting by if you declare the onahole package as gift?
>>14557278
>It "magically" appeared in my room later.
Kek.
I am already bothered by the fact I'll have to explain a fuckhuge box from Japan(puni ana) without actually showing the contents, because if I'd claim it to be figures, as it is labeled, my mother would probably want to see them. Being secretive about it will make me look like a retard, but I that's how it is. I'll probably just claim it to be a boatload of hentais.
>>14560517
It depends on the shop you buy from, pic related claims there is a high probability of avoiding custom taxes plus they declare a lower value, so that's pretty good. Not like anybody at customs knows the real value of these toys if they'd actually look inside.
>>14560517
>20% VAT
buy onaholes thats under 22€
>>14560582
At least it's not labeled rubber toy and lotion. Thanks NLS not obvious what's in side at all
>>14560626
Alright, if you only pay customs in worst cases a EU based oneshop is always going to be more expensive than simply importing
Not omochadreams level of expensive, but paying 20% sometimes vs paying 20% always makes quite a difference
>>14560437
Correct.
Looks like I'm the first one in /ona/ to order from here, so if you guys don't hear back from me within 2 weeks, then shit hit the fan drastically.
>>14560517
Depends on price regulations, but I've had variable experiences above the no-VAT threshold.
The higher the value, the more likely they'll want your money, gift or no gift.
alright, eurofags.
what would the declaration be for a box with only a bottle of onatsuyu inside?
it's a reseller on Amazon.de, they don't seem to have any information on the packaging
Wait, you are buying it from an EU based seller, right? You don't have to declare shit.
>>14560665
Which reseller is it? Please don't tell me you're buying onatsuyu for 30 Euros from that "HENTAI" shop
>>14560675
>>14560665
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B005A0PEQ0
Had a rebate, so it was €23,07 on the receipt.
Still expensive, I know. I regret the purchase, but oh well.
>>14560709
isnt that thing like 5€
>>14560709
>not just buying glorious Gleitfreude
Crunched through the numbers
If I were to bulk-import a decent number of holes (which massively reduces shipping cost) I'd be able to offer EU-based shipping with a few days of delivery time while staying competitive with japan imports
I could sell a Mouth of Truth for about 40 Euros + shipping if you're not in Germany (though amazon EU shipping is only a few bucks), Omochadream price being 50 Euros + 5 EUR shipping
For comparison importing from otonajp with 10 days shipping costs 35 Euros (+20% VAT if you get unlucky)
Is it worth it? Is not having to deal with customs and faster amazon shipping from inside the EU worth paying 40 - 45 Euros compared to 35EUR when importing from japan?
>>14555300
did it again
The bird wasnt lying about Onatsuyu
I Only issue is now that I am experimenting for the perfect amount, I am wasting some of it. And this shit should not be wasted
>>14557455
If you wrap the bullet in a condom this can help with retrieval. Still, as a seasoned anal anon, I don't think a simple vibrating bullet will actually be very stimulating. The Nexus Revo or a vibrating butt plug will definitely work better.
Honestly I used to think exactly like you, but I eventually found that the best way to cum from anal / prostate play is using a dildo, with a magic wand vibe on the glans when I want to finish.
>>14560823
It's worth it for me. The more uncertain shipping times are, the more discouraged I am from buying holes due to living with parents and all that shit.
>>14560823
eufag here, i actually prefer otonajp
Caved and ordered a Cocolo. It'll be my first hip, this better be good.
So to help me keep from fapping too much, ive decided to only use my virgin age admission for masturbation.
It feels uncomfortable to use, but perhaps if i start masturbating weekly instead of 4 or 6 times a day, my dick would get used to the hole or at least tolerate it more.
>mfw gonna buy 10 to 15 holes with my new paycheck
>>14560823
I've even used the Omochajew just because I wanted my shit fast and without hassle, so yes, faster shipping and no customs does justify a little extra €. If you think just paying the +20% is the worst you didn't get the mail "lol we don't see tha bill, its only chinese or sum shit xD" and experience mind numbing phone calls to ascertain the location of your fucking onaholes. The bill was clearly visible outside for Christ sake and they made me suffer for no reason.
Just get some core stock, viral your shit and see if business picks up. Onahole are a pretty stable investment actually. Prices never go down lol.
>>14560907
This. Not having to worry about being fucked over by loli laws at customs is worth paying extra.
>>14560907
>Onahole are a pretty stable investment actually. Prices never go down lol.
Someone get the word out to governments. In case they want to do away with the Gold standard.
>>14560916
why not use otonajp then, it offers package removal so u dont have to worry about loli images
>>14560922
Faster shipping within EU.
>>14560918
Onaholes literally lack a second hand market, because no one wants to use impure holes and the more well endowed among the male specimen seem to rip them apart on a regular bases judging from these generals(never came even close, the fuck) so there is a constant demand for more. Add to that general lust for new pussy. It'd be a good market even without new customers, but I think it's generally growing even more so in the future when more and more males will be effected by the toxic societal climate. Also, VR soon.
Alright, so there seems to be some interest.
If I get lucky the japanese onahole wholesalers grace me with a response to my business inquiry and I can buy from them which would cut my prices by an additional 20% or so, I'd essentially be at jap import pricelevel, but I don't think they're gonna bother with a small amazon shop
Either way I've written a quick and dirty script that observes current amazon onahole stock levels of the more reasonably priced holes such as the 35Euro Rina. If there's at least SOME holes being sold over a reasonable timespan, I'm gonna go ahead with my plan.
as for right now, i belive otonajp is the best reseller for EU customers
>>14560945
>never even came close, the fuck
My Rina which I got almost a year ago is still in decent condition, but holes like Lolinco definitely have shit durability.
Which onahole feels the most realistic?
all these onaholes with ridges and stuff feels very "artificial"
>>14560993
One once said that lolinco was the most realistic acording to his experiences, other say 17 bordeaux.
>>14560945
>>14560980
My mouth of truth is still fine, but certainly getting worn down, but the internals on my Rina were torn up from moderate use, so I just pulled them out. Mouth of truth is considerably larger, so that stands to reason I suppose.
Anyone got an idea of how are packages treated in France? (especially EMS shipping)
Also, what kind of things are included with the Puni Ana DX Hard and Mouth of truth?
>>14560993
Why not use one which is specifically modeled after a real one?
>>14561186
I would assume everything is treated with a little more caution post-Paris, more so if they're heavier packages with hips in them.
>>14561201
But having only the hip and mouth should be safe right? It's my first time buying some of these so i have no clue how it's handled by customs.
>>14560831
>And this shit should not be wasted
The bottle is huge and not particularly expensive, stop worshiping it. The bigger issue is that you get less enjoyment out of your experience when you use too much or too little lube.
>>14560582
Dude, I have a similar problem. Package got stuck in customs (because Christmas or something so they were to busy sending it to me after they checked it), so now I have my roommate drive me to their building.
Problem is that moment of panic I told him I ordered a giant bunch of sweets from Japan.
Like how do I explain to him, that not only can he not have any, but wont even be able to see them? How I know him he expects me to instantly open the package and eat some as soon as we get the package...
I'm so fucked
>>14557278
>>14557139
>>14560582
>>14561334
Have NLS list it as books or some shit, then go to a bookstore and buy some manga to hide until you open the package
>>14560630
Not sure if that is habit in all EU countries, but the real world limit lies by ~26€ because they don't expect you to pay VAT that is under 5€
>>14561334
Wow, that was a terrible lie. Why did you not have something prepared before asking him? Did you not realize he might maybe ask what he's driving you out to go get?
You can still salvage this though; find a way to get out to the local Asian market without his help and actually buy some candy so you have something to share with him later. If he asks you to open it right away tease him for being impatient. Also, don't let him see the content declaration or feel the weight of the box at any point.
>>14560823
>Is it worth it? Is not having to deal with customs and faster amazon shipping from inside the EU worth paying 40 - 45 Euros compared to 35EUR when importing from japan?
Honestly, I'd even be fine with Omochadreams-level markup as long as you actually stock newer releases and / or holes that aren't available on their site. Not having to deal with customs (and free shipping since I got Prime) would definitely be worth it.
>>14561251
i mean, you shouldn't be in trouble because its a fking toy you bought?
>>14561251
You might want to get the packaging removed, not sure whether France tolerates fictional naked little girls. Is that Puni the one with the loli CD included?
>>14561369
Because I didn't even had to ask. He was the one who went to the mailbox and got the paper slip that informs you that the toll has an item for you ready to be picked up. ()
So he was the one who asked unexpectedly, what I ordered and if he should drive me for pickup.
>>14561479
You could act surprised and maintain the sweets lie when it's opened?
Unless there's an invoice, in which case time to introduce him to your masturbation habits.
>>14560823
I appreciate your efforts and it's nothing personal, but I don't think I'd order from you, sorry.
It may be worth it for heavy orders and for those with amazon prime, but it really depends on a lot of factors.
I've decided on a 95 Euro spending limit.
Checked all stores in the EU and at least motsutoys offers free shipping on orders above 80 Euros, however you can only get 2 holes from them for around 90 Euros.
Meanwhile on NLS I managed to get 4 onaholes, 2 cup sleeves and 2 bottles of 145ml lotion for barely 10,000 Yen, which is roughly 76 Euros.
It was worth taking a chance, because even now that I have to pay VAT and thus reach my 95 Euro limit, I'll still get more items.
Personally, I don't mind the long delivery time, so going by your example of 1 Mouth of Truth, ordering it from NLS with e-packet would cost me only 32.5 Euros, shipping included.
If I get lucky with customs, that price stays, but even if I get taxed the total would be around your price with shipping included.
>>14560845
>>14560907
>>14560916
Even if your package is VAT-free, customs can freely decide to open and inspect anything. If they do, there's a chance you'll have to confirm that you ordered artificial vaginas and the whole process will take a few days (or a week) either way.
>>14561468
No idea but i asked them to remove anything that isn't the hip and mouth, that should do the trick.
>>14560630
You mean "buy onaholes that are below 22 EUR minus whatever shipping is" since you pay customs on item value and shipping.
>>14560922
You still have to deal with customs. I don't know what it's like in other EU countries, but in Germany it's Russian roulette depending on which customs office is responsible for your address, and sometimes even which officer in the same office is handling your package.
I've had to deal with three different offices so far, and they ranged from "I don't really care, just send me an email with your invoice, we'll forward the package and have DHL collect the fee" to "Sorry, but you will have to drive those 70km to our office and open the package while I watch so I can make sure that you're not importing something illegal".
>>14561521
I have to add that my order from NLS also contained the 2700 Yen shipping fee within that 10,000 Yen total.
>>14561524
that's the downside of using DHL i guess, i ordered with SAL and got no problem at all.
if you dont mind waiting go with SAL
>>14561575
Those were EMS / airmail actually (normalfag imports or stuff like CDs or figures), which are handled by DHL once they get past customs. Those few times I ordered something from NLS I used e-packet, which luckily didn't get stopped. But I also always stayed below those 22 euro, so that might have been the reason.
>>14561460
>Customs
>Sensible
>Law, especially pedophilia laws
>Sensible
You're never safe.
>>14561479
Welp. The rest of what I said still holds water if you can get your hands on some weeb snacks.
>>14561512
"Wow, a box of full rubber vaginas and rubber vagina accessories? For me?"
Not super believable. I mean, I guess he could just come clean at that point, and it's not like buying masturbatory aids is the worst thing ever but it doesn't sound like he wants to do that.
>>14560162
I've modelled it after the buyfag guide for the time being. If you are reffering to the website, it's modelled too much like a retail site, which is fine but is very decentralized in Information. We can do a sort of wikia for it, as well. What are you thibking of?
>>14560460
That sounds like a good idea for quick questions and whatnot. I'll look into that server.
>>14561869
I thought about risking it and shipping to the UK with loli box art, because I like the box art. Ended up chickening out.
>6'5"
>Helix doesn't reach prostate
JUST
Anyone tried and is happy with GitB?
Heard it have boring structure, yet onahodouga give it 5 stars.
>>14560993
Venus real soft
Now, that that is through, what onahole replicates anal best and or most realistically?
> biggest holes are like, 15-17 cm long
> that's about six, maybe seven inches
So uh....what if you're longer than that.
>>14562389
you get a date with a real woman.
>>14561334
Say it's a late gift for family members, seriously dude you suck at lying
>>14562345
Couldn't be bothered searching even the previous thread, huh? Try >>14550834
>>14561334
lel
That's.. kind of cute actually
>>14560823
Welp, I actually managed to get in contact with a jap wholesaler and they're interested in getting more stuff to europe, even if it is not a lot
No concrete numbers yet, but this could actually get me to or even below japanese import prices.
However, so far, not a single hole has been sold via amazon. Looking at google interest graphs and such it doesn't look too good either
I'd need to sell about 1.5 to 2.5 holes per day consistently to have enough turnover to keep my stock current.
So yeah, not gonna happen, not enough interest in jap holes by yurops
Since multiple people thought about starting a shop: It's definitely possible to massively undercut omochadreams, especially if you can get a hold of a japanese bulk supplier. You don't even need that much of a starting capital to get a decent stock since buying in bulk MASSIVELY cuts shipping costs, you could make a profit even if you're ordering with regular en-nls prizes. Like, I'm talking less than 1000 Euros for your first order of about 30 to 40 holes to get to the point where shipping costs are about 1/6 of what regular customers pay, that'd Get you 1000Yen - 1500Yen profit per hole on shipping alone
Issue seems to be preference / brand awareness of shitty tenga / fleshlight products compared to the obscure japanese stuff. So you'll have to calculate in costs for marketing your shit (which is probably going to require an actual website and not just an amazon marketplace shop), which is going to drive your prices straight back to omochadreams -levels
I am told that when buying from Diamaoh.co.jp you can use English letters for the delivery address part. Has anyone done this when ordering from them?
I am looking for tips on camping Diamaoh for the Venus onaholes too. What time do they become available? How fast do they sell out? I just subscribed to their email thing that tells me when they come back in stock.
>>14562638
Read that, but I wanted more opinions. Nobody's talking about gitb when the lolinco come out and even it's looks great I don't want hole that will squeeze me after 3min.
Nobody likes lolinco when they released it and now it's recommended everywhere.
>>14562799
>However, so far, not a single hole has been sold via amazon
What do you mean, do you have anything listed on amazon? If so, I can't find it.
>>14563377
There's a seller on amazon.de who has 2 or 3 holes with OK pricing, see
http://www.amazon.de/Sexspielzeug-Japanisch-Masturbatoren-K%C3%BCnstliche-Masturbator/dp/B013IUVMY6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1451747136&sr=8-1&keywords=rina+onahole
Almost everything else he offers is overprized as fuck though (cocoro for 230 Euros, holy fuck)
>>14563390
Yeah, I've seen that one but as you mentioned, those prices made me not even consider a second look at their store. Also, only a few of their items are shipped directly via amazon and since they list a Japanese company address, I figured they ship from Japan.
>>14563201
I got the regular version, and I wanna say it was worth the money. As previously mentioned, it's tight and soft and feels quite nice.
The only problem I've encountered is that there's some sort of plug cut into the hole at the upper end, which is only thinly connected to the main part. After like 10 uses I ended up ripping part of that connection, so now I don't have any vacuum effect anymore (not that bad, it still feels awesome) and using the hole always ends up in more or less of a mess, unless I wrap it into a tissue or small plastic bag.
No idea if that plug is intended like that or not, but having to pay attention to not spray your load across your desk and displays kinda takes away from the experience.
>>14563419
All of the Amazon.de listers ship from Japan, they just blow up the prices for no reason apart from "we can".
These are the other ones I know of
http://www.amazon.de/s?marketplaceID=A1PA6795UKMFR9&me=A3P23NTWPN7ZVO&merchant=A3P23NTWPN7ZVO&redirect=true
http://www.amazon.de/s?marketplaceID=A1PA6795UKMFR9&me=A3OF9PC8R0VHSO&merchant=A3OF9PC8R0VHSO&redirect=true
Funnily, the one I got my Rina from is no longer on Amazon.
>meanwhile 40Eur+ fleshlight and tenga shit is selling like hotcakes
>>14563455
>it's tight and soft
How would you compare it to, let's say Rina?
>>14562001
>buying aneros
i dont blame you, their marketing team is too effective. Refund that shit asap and get a proper plug.
>>14561891
Tell them to take the box art off and wrap it in brown paper and put it at the bottom of the box. I ordered two loli holes to AUSTRALIA which has customs that literally cant keep their noses out of packages and loli is illegal and it passed without a hitch.
>>14563570
Loli is illegal in Aus? Never knew.
Really curious about our lurker : poster ratio
http://strawpoll.me/6429770
>>14562882
I set my email refresh to 5 minutes on my phone and desktop client and waited. just go with japanese characters, you'll get them anyway if you use a forwarder.
>>14562362
stuff an onahole full of gooey brownies and fuck it
Really want to grab the Squamate mermaid hole, and I love the box art.
I can't imagine that would raise any red flags in the land of maple syrup and hockey, would it?
>>14564180
Unless the packaging shows a 30 year old holding her birth certificate you could potentially have lots of problems getting it into Canada, they're as bad as the UK
