Didn't see any Yoshika thread for so long.
Jiangshis deserve more love.
![4c8916b074cda6d6ce1a6a7d32c08e58[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4dzcZZy.jpg "4c8916b074cda6d6ce1a6a7d32c08e58[1].jpg")
>>14518028
Yoshiko is love. I don't know about jiangshis in general though.
She's so cute.
>>14518038
Well, since a lot of people are specialized in japan here, it's not that surprising, Jiangshi are originally chinese.
I had a chinese girlfriend who told me that her grandma used to call them "hoping vampires" when she was younger.
Basically they're a mix between vampires and zombies.
They're corpses that don't rot and can be controlled by a master or their own will with magic.
They can absorb the "life force" of the people, a little bit like vampires, and modern representations (in movies, etc..) make them also drink blood.
There is so much to say about it, but I really find these legends fascinating.
>>14518066
I'm sure everyone here would already know what a jiangshi is. Thanks for recounting it though I guess.
>>14518066
she looks so innocent and kind
I'm sorry anons.
>>14518087
sorry for what?
she really is the only good thing from ten desires
Yoshika is a meatshield!
>>14518117
Nyan Nyan
>>14518032
She isnt flexible enough gor that.
>>14518066
Sucks we dont have many boards dealing with Chinese things. Kinda understandable since the oly good China is the historical one, Mao fucked that country up bg time, which was a damn shame.
>Chinese gf
Chinese girls are cute but I couldnt date one. /pol/ made me feel guilty about racemixing (They still cant convince me to like or date white women though) since whites are a global minority, and Chinese girls our greatly outnumbered by chinese men, Japanese people are dying out. The future will suck.
Anyway, Jiangshi are also autistic, apparently if you throw rice at them they cant progress until they count every grain.
>>14518082
Shame her master is a bitch.
>>14518109
I liked it. It's sad but I only read up on Taoism because of TD. Mamizou had a good theme, I liked the idea of Taoists showing up and being at odds with Buddhists.
Kyouko is also cute.
Necrophilia with Yoshika!
![geepqabudd[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6vrPyvc.jpg "geepqabudd[1].jpg")
>>14518142
>Mao fucked that country up bg time, which was a damn shame.
Totally agree, couldn't list all the horrors he didn't without being complete.
And since we talk about jiangshis and taoism, he also forbid the practice of taoism (and other religions if my memory is correct).
>/pol/ made me feel guilty about racemixing
You shouldn't get your feelings and ideas dictated by other people, anon.
Actually chinese peope are kinda "special" for most, and I have some difficulties with that, but like everywhere, you find wonderful people and assholes in every country, every ethnic group, etc...
Every individual is unique.
Talking about China, to me, the "golden ages" of China was the era of Confucius, when the Confucianism and Taoism were popular.
China was, even back then, very barbaric, especially for some dynasties that were really horrible, but I really love that one period because people were the most civilized and respectful.
The taoism has also some really interesting aspects, since it encourages people to disconnect from the "social rules" that weren't that good back then, and still nowadays.
>The future will suck.
Exactly, couldn't agree more with this, especially when you look what happens everywhere in the world and toward what we're going...
![1450575267346[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Y9EXTnx.jpg "1450575267346[1].jpg")
>>14518109
Yoshika is my fav from the game but I personally love Seiga and Kogasa too (well Kogasa comes from the previous game but still!).
>>14518132
Nice image, but is she ...creating babies in her orbs?
>>14518149
But her corpse came back to life and she could be consenting so would it really be necro?
Yoshika's cold, dead womb.
I just love this image, so I decided to share it with you.
>>14518239
>Totally agree, couldn't list all the horrors he didn't without being complete.
What?
>And since we talk about jiangshis and taoism, he also forbid the practice of taoism (and other religions if my memory is correct).
Sounds about right. China tried to stamp out religion, and even now they allow "freedom of religion" they moniter everything, they even have their own seperate little Catholic Church that has to put what the party says before the vatican and the bible. So yeah, no shock Taoism got hit. Didnt Stalin do something similar?
>You shouldn't get your feelings and ideas dictated by other people, anon.
Not dictaited. I just cant see it as right when whites are a minortiy, many Chinese men will never have a Chinese wife/gf and Japanese are dying out. It just seems like I would be fucking over atleast two groups if white people, Chinese people and Japanese people dated eachother. I dont want any of those groups to die out.
>China was, even back then, very barbaric, especially for some dynasties that were really horrible, but I really love that one period because people were the most civilized and respectful.
I liked some of the dynasties, because I saw their idea of unifying the world under one banner as a noble thing.
Dont know if it's bullshit or not, but I remember on here someone sayid how one warlord buried his assassin in a good tomb, becuase apparently the assassin was someone who understood him being a unifier instead of a conquerer.
>>14518309
Yoshika's cold, slurpy, worm infested pussy.
>>14518344
I think I can go as far as rigor mortis, but any subsequent putrefaction stage is too much for me.
I still want to warm up her insides.
![0a96a2174368863a9db15f0d0c9419d6[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/UfU9wD3.jpg "0a96a2174368863a9db15f0d0c9419d6[1].jpg")
>>14518344
I personally like to imagine her very differently:
Clean, cold, without any smell, vaguely like a live-doll.
She's a jiangshi so she's definitely not wearing any insect and probably has less bacterias on her than a living person.
Your image is so cute and adorable, though.
>>14518344
Wors dont eat people.
But hey, some people would be into that, after all this is 4chan, the only place where I have seen a gif of a man putting an earthworm up his urethra. I fucking hate this place.
>>14518276
Nope she is using fetuses/stillborn babies for evil taoist magic.
>>14518335
Yes, Stalin did the same, he led a big anti-religious campaign with a lot of religious persecutions.
And like I said, they both did so many horrible things and killed so many people. Mao alone is responsible of the death of more than 3x the amount of people killed by the nazis, this is just unbelievable. People don't talk a lot about it though.
And sadly, today's China is not that good, I talked with many people that used to live there or visited, and it's not like the postal cards or the nice images you see on the medias, there is a lot of misery and cruelty, people are not happy and are not well treated, and that makes me sad.
Maybe this is a partial reason to some people's incorrect behavior and lack of empathy...
Could you detail more what you explained with the "group of people dying" btw? I'm not sure to understand everything.
And could you, if you have time and if you want of course, develop more the stories about the dynasties you talked about?
I personally heard really awful things about dynasties of people making genocides just because they wanted, and being very cruel. But my knowledge is not total nor perfect, so if you could give more interesting details I'd very happy to read you. I love to learn new things and I don't have many occasion to talk about Chinese history with people around me.
>>14518446
>some people would be into that
There is an onahole like that, full of maggots and larvae. I will probably order it soon.
>>14518454
This is so cute.
I was sad and downcast and you gave me my first smile of the day, thank you Anon.
>>14518458
>using fetuses/stillborn babies for evil taoist magic.
uuh? Never heard anywhere that taoist cults were doing that.
Mind to find me some wikipedia or other web pages talking about it, please?
I'd be very curious to learn what you're talking about.
Everywhere on the board I see so many people arguing, insulting and being mean with each other.
And here, everyone is nice and respectful, looks like Yoshika lovers are nice persons, and that makes me very happy, anons.
>>14518510
Glad you like enjoyed it. Rumia looks hilarious.
>>14518536
* glad you enjoyed it. That valley girl style "like" jumped in there somehow.
>>14518498
>Could you detail more what you explained with the "group of people dying" btw? I'm not sure to understand everything.
Chinese one child rule and favouring male births. There are far more men in CHina than women. China's population will plummet and many people will die alone.
Japanese people arent having kids.
>And could you, if you have time and if you want of course, develop more the stories about the dynasties you talked about?
The assassin one? Cant, someone posted it on here and I never got a sourc.e But I'm pretty sure China had a concept of "one world under heaven" and it was sort of imperialism, but with getting the people on your side. I think, thats my interpritation anyway. You also have the mandate of heaven which ispretty much saying if you arent a good, just ruler, you will lose the mandate of heaven and someone else will take your place as ruler.
>>14518502
Please be joking.
![9ce191254c87eff5bad2d4ad09191689[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/C5R1nHm.jpg "9ce191254c87eff5bad2d4ad09191689[1].jpg")
>>14518270
Get the needle and thread.
>>14518028
Yoshika is sending me into a rigid paradise right now if you catch my drift wwwwwwwww
>>14518536
Crow sighted!
>>14518543
You'll be happy to learn something new today.
Since this 25th of October, so only 2 months ago, China abolished the 1-child rule.
Sadly, it's not because of all the horrible things you used to see (families murdering their child -sometimes in very cruel ways- if it was a girl because they wanted to have a boy to help them in the farms and fields, because their living conditions were very hard and precarious).
They did this because the population was getting "old" and there weren't enough young people.
But yes, between the overpopulation from one side and the fact that many other people stop to make children, the situation is getting very weird.
Japanese people, like many european countries, don't reproduce a lot, probably because people understand that in the world we live in, our children will definitely suffer a lot in the future. Of course there are a lot of other reasons.
And yeah, there is no balance in the world, socially, ecologically, economically, politically, and I'm very scared to see what will happen in the future...
(How did we start talking about that topic, by the way?)
And for China's history, it was just general details over everything you said, I'd like to learn more in general.
When you talk about the mandate of heaven, I think I recall some memories about it, but wasn't it like France's divine right of kings in the Renaissance? Where the king could justify all the horrors he wanted to do because "the heaven/god decided it"?
How were the things in China?
You said that "if they didn't behave correctly" they would lose the "mandate", but who could judge that if their decisions are "divine"?
Also, like I said earlier, the best period in china for me was in the era of confucianism and taoism and if my memories are not wrong, it's the period when China was the most "democratic" and respectful of the people. But I don't know if what you talk about was at the same time, before or after.
![70241b03e82c81349805d87abb4b2aab[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/f1AbMUq.jpg "70241b03e82c81349805d87abb4b2aab[1].jpg")
>>14518556
Poor Yoshika, maybe Alice could do something for her?
This images gives me also a lot of emotions.
Don't hesitate to share images that you like.
>>14518634
>You said that "if they didn't behave correctly" they would lose the "mandate", but who could judge that if their decisions are "divine"?
It's less about behaving correctly and more how well things go during his reign.
If an emperor repels invasions and there's a good harvest, he's got the mandate, because things are going well. If the river floods and mongols kick down the wall, he loses the mandate or never actually had it at all, because clearly he doesn't have any divine favor if things suck.
The Chinese are pragmatic like that.
>>14518066
>They're corpses that don't rot
I didn't realise this before. Interesting info.
Basically this would mean that every piece of fan art depicting Yoshika with any rotting flesh is incorrect. I find this revelation intriguing.
>>14518729
So no nasty smells, no maggots, no gross stuff? Just a lack of body heat?
>>14518729
Yes, exactly.
People often mistake her with zombies. Mostly westerners, because they don't know what a jiangshi is.
Like it was previously stated, jiangshis look a lot like vampires actually.
And yeah I find that pretty interesting too!
>>14518740
Yes, you summed it pretty well.
>>14518784
Hooray, Yoshika isn't gross.
>>14518799
Hooray!
>>14518807
She's still kinda spooky and a monster, though.
No fault of her own, mind you.
>>14518729
They rot though. State of decay varies due to how long they have been dead, they rot.
Zun even says her brain is rotten. If she hasnt rotted away is due to Seiga using magic to prevent further decay.
>>14518784
Corpses cant blush.
>>14518824
You shut your whore mouth.
![a728fe63533b60b4e979ef3fc1ef8e81[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/rwcm15x.jpg "a728fe63533b60b4e979ef3fc1ef8e81[1].jpg")
>>14518820
He said "rotten" when talking about making her "dumber" than planned.
To me, he spoked conceptually, talking about her intelligence and not on the 1st degree, which would make more sense.
Anyway that's how I see it.
![98b940a3cdc18ffe57205d889554ddc1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/pEZKRJG.jpg "98b940a3cdc18ffe57205d889554ddc1[1].jpg")
>>14518819
She's not that spooky～
>>14518829
Her eyes arent faded enough. Apparently eyes lose their shine after you die, and thats how you can identify how fresh a fish is (if the head is still on).
Which makes sense given Jiang shi are sometimes considered blind, to the point where you hold your breath to hide from them.
I would like to see the qi vampire fight against Hong due to her qi manipulation.
>>14518857
I choose to believe that Seiga likes sprucing up her thrall. Gives her shiny eyes, blushing cheeks, etc.
>>14518673
I really love this one
![fa9a631311c24b3b2b2a124680d84d01[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/ULHitAr.png "fa9a631311c24b3b2b2a124680d84d01[1].png")
>>14518824
I don't see her blushing on that pic, though.
>>14518066
>"hoping vampires"
Yeah back when i was young a tv channel used to play all those old chinese horror movies featuring them. I always thought them as chinese vampires because of that
>>14519167
Haha yeah, and their big and sharp vampire teeth + the fact that they often drank blood in these movies made them look so much like vampires.
I'd be very curious to find an artwork with Yoshika and Remi or Flan alone. I don't even think I've already seen such things.
It's weird that Chinese culture is now being introduced through Touhou.On that topic, Confucianism, the true rival of Taoism, is yet to make an entrance.
>>14519317
>Confucianism
Currently reading the annalects, and I have tosay I'm kinda dissapointed.
I expected more proverbs and guidence, and less "Some guy once said something, and the master said he was wrong".
Maybe there is more I have to read, maybe I jsut got a shitty translation, but it's not what I expected. It's jsut what some guy ocassionally overhears and decides to write down, no link, no order, no consitency.
Also, why didnt Zun bring back Meiling for Taoists?
Taoists are Chinese, Meiling is CHinese, he could ahve given her some time in the spotlight as a MC.
>>14519366
That's pretty much what Confucianism is. It's an ideology of personal behaviour, family relations, social conduct etc. Be loyal to your parents, be like the gentleman-scholar. E.g. if you were to become suddenly rich, but your village was poor, it would be very Confucian of you to use this money to help develop your village.
>>14519317
Yes, and I personally prefer Taoism over Confucianism.
But even if both are rivals, they share the same roots and are seek the same goal (the wisdom) and have the same chinese legacy, so they almost complete each other.
I'm gonna try to explain a little bit the stuff for the people who don't know it:
Taoism search the harmony with the universe, the nature and everything that surround us, and harmonize what seem opposed.
The way of thinking is kinda anarchic and advocates the individual liberties and refuse the rigors of the social life in general and all the rules around it, that's why you have so many taoists who isolate themselves to become hermits.
And that's where they're very opposed to confucianists who search to improve the social life, while taoists will say it's impossible and dangerous because it's something artificial that hinders the natural to express.
But we won't see confucianism in tōhō because, as far as I know and if I'm not mistaken, there is no folklore, magic and legends for the confucianism, it's more philosophy than a religion (well, we could say the same for taoism, but it's different).
Well, if we see confucianist characthers, they'll also have to be pure humans, so that would be unexpected. Could be interesting though, especially for the possible interactions with other characthers (and still more interesting than americanized characters to my humble opinion, it's only my opinion and I'm the only one bound by it, no aggression pls).
I wonder if Meiling and Yoshika would be friends if they met?
(maybe they already have and I don't know it)
>In spite of there not being anything wrong with her body, it seems like she died at a young age. After inquiring a medical expert, it was suggested that she may have been killed by poison. Even so, a corpse with no relatives would have no one to investigate the truth behind her death. All her crimes come to the statute of limitations, after all.
>But there are times that lead us to believe that she seems to have some memories from when she was still alive. When the charm is removed and she is freed from the wicked hermit's control, it seems that she will revert back to her old behaviors. One time, she was reciting poetry while staring at nothing with the whole cemetery covered in a carpet of fallen leaves. It was a little horrifying.
Man, Seiga is flat out evil, huh.
>>14519571
Sounds pretty cool to me.
>>14519571
I hope you guys realize already. Yoshika is a sad existencelike your life.
>>14519571
I feel sorry for her and I love her even more after reading all of this.
But if ZUN wrote it, does he actually say that Seiga is "wicked" and so a bad person? I thought no character was actually bad/evil.
Talking about informations, for those who talked about rot, these things might interest people who didn't read it yet:
>A jiang shi controlled by a wicked hermit. Jiang shi usually do not last long as they are corpses. However, she does not rot due to an anti-decomposition spell placed on her.
>Being a jiang shi, she has nothing resembling a sense of self. As she doesn't feel pain or fatigue, she can bring out the full potential of her body, displaying incredible strength.
>As there is not a single person in Gensokyo who remembers her, her corpse belongs to the wicked hermit. Judging from the anti-rotting spell the hermit cast on her, she is probably not from this era.
>>14519571
Well fucking duh. Wicked's right there in the title, anon.
Don't tell Yoshika, though. She won't get it and you'll just make her upset.
>>14519598
What the fuck man. Seiga's title in TD was Wicked Hermit. Her entire faction distrusts her. She throws electrified fetus balls at you as danmaku. Do the math.
>>14519609
Where the hell did you hear that she throws "electrified fetus", do you have any link that talks about that?
I don't know if you're the same poster as >>14518458 but I'd like to see links talking about that as well.
Otherwise it would be very difficult to believe you...
>>14519579
>>14519609
shhhh, quiet, this thread is love, everyone on this thread is nice and friendly, don't ruin it, friends... I love you too.
Hey I found something you might like, Kogasa and Yoshika in 3D!
Personally, I like to think that Yoshika smells a bit like embalming fluid and graveyard dirt. Not a bad smell, just a bit unusual. A pretty nice smell when you get used to it!
I want my bedsheets to smell like Yoshika-chan!!
>>14518309
>>14518344
How fertile is Yoshika's womb anyway?
>>14519662
Gross. Embalming fluid smells reminds me of dissected frogs.
>>14519654
I always find these things difficult to do. Is there a certain distance I should be away from my monitor?
![ce446eff5ceba8c0cbd387bc96d2a9e3[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/RdrMeEw.jpg "ce446eff5ceba8c0cbd387bc96d2a9e3[1].jpg")
>>14519662
Haha, that's original! Why not!
Her name means something like "nice perfume, aromas, incense, so I personally imagine something quite enjoyable.
>>14519598
>As there is not a single person in Gensokyo who remembers her,
Yoshika would be the saddest 2hu if she could feel anything.
![118e2f28d7bbf6604736910871112e5b[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/hhu8SQq.png "118e2f28d7bbf6604736910871112e5b[1].png")
>>14519696
Anon... you made my eyes watery, I want to cry now, I didn't realize how sad it was...
The only way I can imagine myself having any satisfactory interaction with Yoshika is by self-inserting as Seiga. Which is quite great, I always wanted to be a wicked Chinese lady with megalomania who is at the same time a hermit. Not even kidding.
>>14519696
I'd feel incredibly sad for her. Absolutely no one to know who she is.. horrible.
![b06cf51242203327bec1fe8155802234[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/rsbPECU.jpg "b06cf51242203327bec1fe8155802234[1].jpg")
>>14519691
It depends from your screen size and your eyes.
Actually it's really easy to do, you just have to understand the trick.
I'll try to help you because that one 3D image is amazingly well done (a lot of these kind of images are crappy, but this one is just excellent, it's just like if you were there).
You need to cross your eyes, squint (if you have difficulties, try to put your finger in front of your face and focus on it).
Normally, the image on the screen will duplicate.
The goal is that the "right double" of the left image overlays the "left double" of the right image.
I don't know if you understand what I mean.
Once both doubles overlay, actually there is something that happens like a "self-lock", and you don't have to make any effort, you just stare at the image and everything seems natural, you just feel a little bit weird, but your vision is perfectly clear.
Hope I helped you anon!
>>14519718
Exactly...
You are thrown in a world where you don't belong...
All your family, all your friends, everyone you used to know are dead, everything you built disappeared.
No one know who you are, remember you, care about you.
You're just here... You don't know why, but you're here, all alone...
You can't imagine how much I want to hug her and give her all the affection I can.
>>14519729
Oh my. It's been ten years and this is the first time I managed to do it. It's a pity I can't close in on the image without my eyes starting to hurt.
>>14519748
I personally wouldn't care much. My family is already fallen apart and good for nothing, so I would just see what I can do. I'm sure Gensokyo would have more opportunities. Maybe I'm just not Yoshika to feel the same way. But I can't deny that it's a personal calamity, it's just one I've already gone through.
>>14519705
>>14519718
What really makes it poignant for me is the poetry bits.
Seiga pretty much treats her like she would a kettle or a broom, and when yoshika's in the jiang shi equivalent of a closet and Seiga isn't bothering to control her directly, little bits and pieces of her old self come through like a dementia patient singing radio jingles for toothpaste.
ZUN basically built Yoshika to suffer.
>>14519718
>>14519748
I'm pretty sure one Touhou's basis was a fan of Yoshika's poetry. Was it Kasen? I think it was Kasen.
So there's that, at least.
REMOVE EVIL NECROMANCER
FREE YOSHIKA
>>14519629
We are different people, but here.
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Ten_Desires/Spell_Cards/Stage_4#cite_note-1
>>14518520
I was getting practices and spell cards mixed up my bad.
The Thai had witch doctor fetus practices/magic, it's not a Taoist practice, I misspoke.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuman_Thong
>>14520487
Sick. No that wasn't a compliment.
Fucking Seiga.
>>14520493
She also steals from kids on Christmas, what's not to love? I love you Seiga Nyan Nyan!
>>14519393
I know. I just expected it to be more like Taoism little phrases to guide you, or the buddhist dharma where buddha gives clear info.
I'm just saying how the annalects are dissapoining, becuase they just remind me of gossip. It's not teachings or lectures, jsut "my teacher once said this thing" followed by "he said this other thing in a different discussion".
Maybe it comes up later, but I wanted more clear rules on how to love, and more about The Way.
>>14519538
I wasnt a fan of Taoism. It was a confusing ideology and the whole "You cant describe the Tao" thing made me think that the idea of it as a religion/philosophy is retarded. If you cant comunicate it, then it's not really a good religion/philosophy.People will never undersand if it cant be communicated.
I also found it anti intellectual, and regressive. Well not regressive, but living by nature doesnt make progress.
As far as philosophy is concearned, I sstill think stoicism is god tier with nothing coming close. My only regret being stoicism is insanely hard to follow and put into practice.
>>14519560
That could be depressing. Hong may know her given both are ancient Chinese people, and even if Hong knew her, due to her poor brain, she wouldnt know who Hong is at all.
>>14519571
She also robs you at Christmas, ha no loyalty and is manipulative. I think Kasen is the only good hermit.
>>14519696
Ironicly, you're forgetting someone else. That person just cant be sad because she lobotomized herself. Being Koishi is suffering.
Seiga probably knows her, she got the corpse when it wasnt too rotten after all.
>>14520518
Guys I think Kasen might not actually be a hermit.
>>14520523
A hermit is an occupation, a way of life. Nothing says an oni cant be a hermit.
Seiga you cunt.
>>14520518
Or seiga murdered yoshika to use her corpse because she's a bitch
![591facce664b00bdd5374cd81c824e1f[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3odRsRe.jpg "591facce664b00bdd5374cd81c824e1f[1].jpg")
>>14520487
Wow, thank you very much for your infos, I read all the wiki page, it was very interesting, yet very disturbing too.
Thai people are really weird... I didn't know they hard such rituals. I wanted to get more infos so I wandered on google but I only found things written in chinese, and google image was full of weird things as well.
Well at least they don't murder anyone, they only use bodies of dead children that died in the womb of their mother, let's say it's something positive in the whole thing...
But from what I read, they use the dead bodies as amulets (they even paint it with gold) to summon spirits, so Seiga probably doen't use "dead fetuses" to attack, but she uses these amulets to tame spirits.
What I don't know is why does she uses thai amulets?
From what I know, Thailand is mostly buddhist, so why a taoist would use these kind of amulets? (Maybe because she doesn't have a moral and doesn't care anyway?)
I would like to have your opinion on these things if you don't mind.
Anyway, I also read all the article about her in Symposium of Post-mysticism, and I'm kinda disappointed and surprised because I naively thought she was a nice and benevolent person.
Actually, hermits are not evil at all, and are often more benevolent and nice than many of the other persons...
>>14520508
I tried to read infos about that but I didn't understand everything about it. Can you or someone else explain me please? I'd like to understand...
From what I know, Seiga is not interested in material things, so why would she steal from people? What would she do with the hoard?
If someone knows the answer, I'd be very interested to discuss about it and learn new infos.
It's nice to find people to have interesting and enriching discussions on this thread, I like that.
>>14521184
Well I thought that, especially given she was poisoned. But I dont know if the wicked hermit is wicked enough to commit murder.
>>14521219
Definitely not.
She might be wicked but not that wicked.
She couldn't even have become a hermit if she killed someone.
>>14520518
>As there is not a single person in Gensokyo who remembers her,
It is officially stated that NO one remembers her, so she didn't know who Yoshika is before her dead, she found the corpse and used it, like stated on her page.
And that's actually better like this, because it would be totally fucked up otherwise.
Seiga still loves Yoshika and is fond of her even if she uses her. I just couldn't deal that she'd have killed her before. Fortunately it's not the case...
>>14521009
why is she crying?
lemon juice can enhance the flavour of a dish, especially if it's battered
case in point fish and chips
![720995e9e46ecac9273d83a5fe1f89e7[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/qcrpf1u.jpg "720995e9e46ecac9273d83a5fe1f89e7[1].jpg")
>>14520518
For what you say about Taoism, don't get yourself mistaken by such trivial points of view. It's more complex than that.
Same for what you said about conficianism, you need to replace the context, and things in China back then weren't that easy, there were a lot of barbaric dynasties, and these thought were really important back then.
And that's because things weren't right that the taoism is pretty interesting, because they tried to reject the wicked rules in days of yore, and also try to respect the individual liberties of people.
And for what you say about "you can't describe the tao" that makes you think it's retarded, actually it's not retarded, you seem to judge too superficially things and claim things very fast.
They added intentionally paradoxes and contradictory things "as a teaching", to make you learn to "change the conventional way of thinking and logic", and that's something today's society cruelly lacks. Everyone is pre-formated like a sheep in our society, and people forget to "think different".
And that's where taoism is the most different from confucianism because confucianism likes doctrins, and taoism rejects them.
They want to be in harmony with everything, let things happen naturally, empty yourself to be like a dead leafs in the flow of life.
If you're in a bark on a river and on the way of a small boat, you'll get yelled or insulted to move, but if the bark is empty, the boat will simply avoid and get around you.
They also let man organize by himself without being governed and oppressed.
And when you see how is our society, I think some of these ideas are really more than interesting.
We're all slaves of the things we own, yet we don't know why and they don't make us happier, we work more and more "for progress", but it only makes rich people richer, and doesn't get much people happier, because most of the people think about their personal interest and money, material things, etc... And they don't try to "progress" inside themselves...
(and our society's rules are more and more not made "to protect everyone" but to enrich people who bribe the ones who decide the rules, the justice is not a justice anymore either, but that's another story...)
Well, I didn't say I was agreeing with everything in taoism, and even less that I was a taoist, many of the things they do are kinda weird too, their refusal of technology is kinda exaggerated I agree for that (but it's also very interesting to see how today's society is on the other extreme, where people only think through that, and are totally dependent and slave of these same technologies). Their "diet" are also kinda weird, and their alchemical things too.
But many things in this philosophy is really very interesting and our society lacks of some of them, unfortunately.
There are a lot of other interesting things, like all the works on energies, meditation, there are a lot of things in taoism, especially the work on your respiration and breath that you only find in yoga and nowhere else.
Something also very important, they might reject social constraints but they are still very moral and benevolent. It's a philosophy/religion that pushes people to do good, and always try to help people. That's how you become a Xian (sennin), by doing good actions.
Their goal is immortality (not for selfish purposes but more like en enlightenment), and each time they do good, they gain "days of life", and doing bad things and harming people means losing days of life and get closer to death. (And they don't have netherworld or hell, when you die, it's over. That's why they try to avoid death.)
And actually, you shouldn't think "hermits are evil" because of Seiga, because I read you said that you think Kasen is the only good hermit.
Seiga is weird, but hermits are good in general.
Miko looks "evil" in hopeless masquerade because tasofro took too much liberties and deformed her to make her look "dark" but she's not evil.
Actually, in Gensōkyō's mythology, Sennins (hermits) who are transcended humans, ascend to higher classes, like celestials or divine spirits.
So hermits are supposed to become celestials or divine spirits, that's why you don't see so many of them (well, you wouldn't see so many of them anyway, since they're hermits).
But like I said, Seiga is weird, and that's why she can't become a celestial, because of her personality.
(talking about Seiga, let's not forget that Symposium of Post-mysticism are texts or dialogs coming from other characters of gensōkyō, so they might be very subjective and oriented, and I personally don't believe she's "that" evil, or at least I take things with hindsight and distance. )
But please don't make one case a generality and don't hate hermits without knowing them...
>>14521388
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>>14521355
She's cute
![ffa9cd542e44633e697e22e9b87eb113[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/9zntUnn.jpg "ffa9cd542e44633e697e22e9b87eb113[1].jpg")
>>14521297
I was wondering the same! I personally like lemon.
I like this thread.
>>14521425
oooooh soo cute.
And here we have our pic with Yoshika and an actual vampire. Saved!
Do you know where this comes from?
>>14521451
They're cute too, does it come from the same book?
What happens if I yank that talisman off?
![3493e39346445754a43120fd3932f07f[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/0dQdHY8.jpg "3493e39346445754a43120fd3932f07f[1].jpg")
>>14521524
Normally, she will be inanimate and not able to move again.
At least that's how work most of the traditional jiangshi, I'm not totally sure if it would work the same for her.
>>14521524
She starts acting like her old self, apparently
>>14521635
Yeah, actually your post made me think twice so I got back to read the symposium again.
When they said "When the charm is removed and she is freed from the wicked hermit's control, it seems that she will revert back to her old behaviors.", actually, they translated "juubaku" as charm, so it was more like a spell.
But in the japanese text, they say something that is not translated "if you remove her ofuda" then she's freed from the spell and she will go back to her old behavior.
I also learned something:
They talk about 邪仙's charm, referring to Seiga.
And apparently, on japanese pages, her specie is not "sennin" (hermit) but this word 邪仙 "jasen" that means "evil sennin" so she's technically not even a hermit but an "evil variant". That explains actually a lot of things...
So, apparently, her ofuda doesn't keep her "alive" and allow her to move like regular jiangshis (like >>14521631 stated accurately) but only keeps her under the control of Seiga...
I want to rip her ofuda now.
>>14521462
Why is this something like an abuse picture?
Seiga protecting Yoshika, but it's only Seiga I want to kill.
>>14521729
Now I want to see how uncharmed Yoshika would react to Seiga.
>>14522122
I think she would continue to love her....
She looks too naive, kind and candid to react otherwise... Her intelligence got also damaged with the time, so she probably wouldn't understand that Seiga uses her as a tool if no one tried to explain it to her.
And despite the fact that she uses her as a tool, Seiga is very fond of Yoshika and gives her affection, so I guess that's the first thing she'll notice.
What do you think about it?
I have a very big question:
Where can I find figures or goodies about Yoshika?
I like Griffon's figures but I didn't see any about Yoshika.
Amiami doesn't sell anything about her.
I didn't even find a fumo of her...
Do you know where I can find anything about her?
The only figure I found was the image from my post and it wasn't for sell, I didn't find anything else...
Does anybody know something? I'd be forever grateful...
BIG FAT ZOMBIE TATS
What's Seiga doing!?
>>14519317
Jiangshis and Chinese mythology have always been popular in Japan ever since the debut of Mr. Vampire (1985), which was an enormous hit over there. Check it out, it's a good flick and probably on YouTube in its entirety.
![mnuhnm[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/rSw3PEH.jpg "mnuhnm[1].png")
>>14523084
Looks likes Seiga likes to swap wives/toys with Yukari, and she likes to watch too, since she opened a hole in the wall with her hairpin to admire the show.
>>14522938
Oh I remember this page, I liked that book.
>>14524377
That's adorable, I would still enjoy eating dirt made by her if it was made with love.
For Christmas, I'll ask Santa to bring me this game.
Super Sekibanki Land:
On YoshikaIsland.
![adcdae36d55563c353ce7957462ebdcf[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/RGMLYyQ.jpg "adcdae36d55563c353ce7957462ebdcf[1].jpg")
>>14518028
Oh look at the day, we're the 25th, I wouldn't have noticed without Yoshika-chan.
Merry Christmas /jp/!
Merry Christmas!
>>14521297
>why is she crying?
>lemon juice can enhance the flavour of a dish, especially if it's battered
>case in point fish and chips
Not everybody enjoys the taste of it on their food. When I eat tempura or fish and chips I rather use a dash of salt or tartar sauce. Now lemon on cooked salmon, that's good.
>>14535851
Lol it's still a weird way to annoy people.
Maybe that's what makes it funny.
>>14536619
Yeah it's like the minor things can really bug the shit out of people. Much like let's say if you hate spicy food and when you're about to eat something you love some dickhead comes by and hoses it down with hot sauce.
>>14518344
I don't think that she have worms. Jiangshi are usually full of mercury.
>>14518510
>I was sad and downcast and you gave me my first smile of the day, thank you Anon.
Parajin sure does the job.
>>14537870
The mercury thing is not sure at all, but as said here >>14519598 , Yoshika is not in decomposition thanks to a special spell and 0% worms guaranteed.
And she would probably have even less bacterias on her than living people, actually.
>>14537669
Yeah, poor Nue, lol.
I like your image btw, it's like beautiful, arousing, cute and funny at the same time.
>>14537870
Even worse
>>14521211
>Well at least they don't murder anyone, they only use bodies of dead children that died in the womb of their mother
Do keep in mind that "stillborn fetus" in ancient parlance means "fetus that died because I've birthed it directly into a ditch". Old-fashioned abortion, as it were.
But yeah, Seiga should make a toyol little sister to Yoshika.
![7805a05e60771cfe304ae1675855be8f[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/gAUoIUd.jpg "7805a05e60771cfe304ae1675855be8f[1].jpg")
>>14537892
I love these image so much, they're just adorable.
Do you have more of them?
>>14537993
>I like your image btw, it's like beautiful, arousing, cute and funny at the same time.
It's by sama samasa who does great art, a bunch are NSFW https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=sama_samasa
>>14538179
>>14538516
>>14538520
![900c67742c876966f1c9eeb1c7357dee[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ym7zf7m.jpg "900c67742c876966f1c9eeb1c7357dee[1].jpg")
>>14538150
Probably for stillborn babies, but if we refer to the article talking about Kuman Thong, they say:
>They were obtained from the desiccated fetuses of children who had died whilst still in their mothers' womb.
What is a Toyol btw?
Talking about making a little sister, a jianghi adoptive family for Yoshika would be hella cute, though.
![50c4ec8bb58cac1c71f2d1cc189bc4c4[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/UQKm47w.jpg "50c4ec8bb58cac1c71f2d1cc189bc4c4[1].jpg")
>>14538467
Wow, that's a huge gallery, and a good half is tōhō-related, thanks for you link, I just bookmarket it, I look forward to browse everything.
The name sama samasa sounds kinda familiar to me though, I feel I already read or heard his name somewhere.
>>14538516
>>14538520
>>14538530
I'm in love
>>14538516
>>14538520
>>14538530
And this is why anyone implying lewd things between Ran and Chen is a faggot.
>>14523212
>Cheongsam with kimono-like sleeves
That looks so nice! I want to cuddle that Yoshika!
![f927328e76b5e3afeafe000b715660ba[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/nBEUy7U.jpg "f927328e76b5e3afeafe000b715660ba[1].jpg")
>>14540444
Me too.
I'm sure I have another pic with her wearing the same type of outfit on my computer, if I find it I'll post it here.
I also love the Qing official garments, like >>14518040 , it makes her look even cuter.
>>14540539
>I also love the Qing official garments, like >>14518040 # , it makes her look even cuter.
Yeah, I like the Qing outfits, too. Something about them makes them look comfy, like they'd be nice to hug.
They look amazing in motion, too! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loRDf9qoQK4
>I'm sure I have another pic with her wearing the same type of outfit on my computer, if I find it I'll post it here.
Thank you!
>>14540054
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyol
>>14536619
>>14537669
Part 1:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7saEpX2jfHg
Part 2:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbWdKOX_DwM
Part 3:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEyOlaqkWX0
Part 4:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH2bAOspBwg
Relevant to these images and the thread.
I want Yoshika to nibble my ears!
>>14540750
>Something about them makes them look comfy, like they'd be nice to hug.
Totally agree.
The video was very interesting to watch, btw, the music and the outfits are nice too
For the Cheongsam, I didn't notice, someone already posted the one I was thinking about >>14519560
>>14519662
I kind of like that rotting smell.....
>>14542344
Oh I love these so much, thanks for sharing them.
They're so funny and also so cute.
Yoshika is just adorable in these vids.
(The fact that characters used guns was kinda weird though.)
I look forward to see the Part 5!
And yeah the videos were totally relevant to the discussions, especially:
>>14521524
>>14521631
>>14521635
>>14521729
>>14522122
>>14522181
That's actually a very interesting and cute theory of an "uncharmed Yoshika".
>>14540444
>>14540750
>>14544775
>>14518028
Miyako likes to hop.
