Wahaha
http://pastebin.com/mu7z1WQk
tenhou.net/0/?L7447
>>14515271
Thanks. For a live action it seems well done.
>>14515302
It doesn't reek of manga adaptation like akagi did
3:0
>>14515393
Fuck the police I only play ari red 5.
>>14515405
this guy gets it
2:0 come on nerds I'll win your lunch money from you
Fuck I was going to shower, but now it's 3:0.
Could have washed myself this way, but oh, well. Thanks for the game, fellas.
I thought I set up the perfect suji trap and then this happens.
ah well, rinshaaaaan nai
>>14515591
Suji traps don't work that way.
>>14515674
Explain.
>>14515683
I'm guessing, that you're implying the 1-pin imposes suji on the 4-pin. You're half correct. Unfortnately, you also need a 7-pin discarded to hide that 4-pin wait of yours.
Now, if you drop 4-pin to wait on 1 or 7. Then you have a nice suji trap right there.
>>14515696
So the tile discarded needs to be in the middle of a suji interval?
>>14515696
I was thinking that suji trap was the other way -- keeping the middle tile while having the outside tiles discarded.
>>14515658
It's okay, RM, I got you.
>>14515703
The discarded middle tile masks the outside tiles.
And if you have the outside tiles discarded to wait on the middle one... then...
>>14515709
That's "naka suji", or middle suji. And it works that way too.
Under both cases, you're taking advantage of the furiten rule, where defending players may imply safe tiles along an interval (when it's actually not applicable).
Of course, don't do this with "open waits", where you'd actually end up in furiten.
>>14515709
>>14515747
To illustrate that, this guy got me pretty bad here. Hindsight says, I shoulda dropped 9-pin; but I don't think I paid attention to that 6-pin pon.
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2015122120gm-0089-0000-05035851&tw=0&ts=10
For once, fortune smiled upon me.
>>14515978
I just don't get it. Why do people hold on to these wind tiles mid-game for seemingly no reason? Isn't a lone honor tile least likely to become useful? Is there something I'm not getting that these people know?
>>14516166
>>14513301 →
>>14515978
>For once, fortune smiled upon me.
That smile woulda been a lot bigger; but hey, you won.
>>14516368
I was already surprised they cut the nan at that point in the game. I'd be doubly surprised if they cut it into a riichi, although maybe they'd fall for the 5p suji before the round drew. And yeah, all I really wanted to do was escape 4th. It was already greedy to take apart the 9s pair and push for honitsu, I think.
Post your most dominant hanchan win, anon.
>>14516783
With or without yakuman?
>>14516786
Doesn't matter. Though I don't think winning with a comeback yakuman is dominant.
>1:0
You gotta get back into tokujou, Saki-san. Then we can play a round or two there.
>>14515786
That 6 was souble suji, though. Double suji of the riichi tile, but still. Your hand was decent, I think dicarding 6m was the right choice.
>>14517332
I'm starting to think I'm not good enough to reach it.
>>14517374
If you got there once, you can get there again. The tough part is learning to survive there, but doing that will make you a much better player.
>>14515786
2 6m went out right before his tenpai and riichi took place so your discard choice was very justified
if only you played the 9p though
>call pon on west or haku
>discard 3m which is safe
>waiting on 5m
Today I will get R1700
Stupid question. Is there a method for simple minded people like myself to identify chin itsu waits. I wanna not have to rely on riiching to tell me what to discard anymore.
>>14518700
Practice.
http://www.gamedesign.jp/flash/bamboo/bamboo.html
>>14518700
Count 'em during the other player's turns.
Also >>14518733. You will get an eye for this.
That feeling when you don't deal in all game and you still get 3rd.
>be last
>south 4
>only way to even get 3 place is with a yakuman
>starting hand is shit
>just close the tab
Anyone else does this?
Please help, how do I riichi here? What would be the wait?
>>14519014
Throw out the 9-pin, and wait on 5-pin. Don't riichi.
>>14519014
11
222
234
4x6
888
discard 9 to wait on the 5pin.
>>14519037
>>14519044
Thank you!
>1:0
>>14518941
>be last
>south 4
>only way to even get 3 place is with a yakuman
That's basically impossible.
>>14518700
Identify potential pairs. Then identify waiting patterns.
Why don't you have this set?
>>14519281
Looks neat but no one in my country plays mahjong
>>14519281
cause I have the black mahjong set. (I actually don't recommend it because there is no highlighted backs which makes them prone to flipping when shuffling and a bit awkward to tell if you have a haku or if your tile is just not facing the right way.
>>14519014
>not calling kan
>>14519828
I hope you're joking.
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2015122316gm-0029-0000-47c9d83f&tw=1&ts=11
>score yakuman
>not win
>>14520453
A single miracle can only do so much. Sloppy players require multiple miracles to win.
>1:0
It feels so weird when you go into a West round, I forget that you have to break 30K sometimes
Still 3:0.
This mode is 2fast4me.
>>14519187
Chiri-chan has changed over the summer.
I don't know if there are a lot of european players here. EMA has (finally) announced their new rules.
What do you think of them ?
>>14522057
I'm not yuropoor
>>14522057
Better than before, since they got rid of the biggest downside of european rules and finally allowed kuitan.
But in return they made quite some other stupid changes:
- No red fives
- No Kazoe Yakuman
- No abortive draws
- No Nagashi Mangan
- Renhou allowed but is mangan instead of yakuman
- Dai Suushi is no double yakuman anymore
>>14522133
>>- No red fives
This is a good thing.
>>14522253
Maybe if you don't know how to control the flow.
>>14522253
I like red fives. They make seemingly cheap hands a bit more dangerous and playing with open hands more viable.
>>14522133
>abortive draws
If there's no Kazoe, does that mean that sanbaiman is the highest non-yakuman point value now?
>>14522385
Yes.
>>14522133
so ema is basically riichi with some restrictions?
3:0
AN EXCITING MATCH AWAITS YOUR
WILL YOU CHI? WILL YOU PON? OR WILL YOU.. RON!!??
IS THAT A SAFE TILE TO DISCARD? WILL YOUR SUJI TRAP KILL ALUCARD?
COME PLAY AND SHOW US WHAT YOU'RE MADE OF
![[Triad]_Akagi_-_21.avi_snapshot_20.29_[2015.10.16_11.55.24].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/hnZ2h4g.jpg "[Triad]_Akagi_-_21.avi_snapshot_20.29_[2015.10.16_11.55.24].jpg")
>>14522504
>3:0
Liar.
>>14522526
Well now that you're here it truly is 3:0!
Really. Not a single 1 pin.
Faggots
>>14522551
So sorry not everyone is as eager to deal in as you.
>>14522133
>Yurop
Yea, they never get this shit right. Even worse, they impose themselves as the authority to riichi's rules.
>>14522458
Mostly yes, but some other things differ as well like renhou being allowed and different chombo rules.
>>14521450
Even weirder shit happens in the West round, 'cause of the stakes. The amount of room to fuck up is severely decreased.
>>14522760
Chombo never had a standard rule. Sure, there's the "reverse mangan" payment; but that's actually a nonsensical way to enforce it. It wastes time; and it gives players added benefit to someone's rule mistake. A -20 to uma post game is harsher and easier to implement.
>>14522754
I for one really like tenhous rules. I played differently before, but I found that almost all of their rules make sense and add something of value to the game. The only excpetions are that I would like to have double yakuman, triple ron and Renhou allowed.
>>14522766
>It wastes time
Are you saying that chombo hands are not repeated anymore?
>>14522779
>triple ron
Yea, I'd love to see this shit more often:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHh0sT39vp0
DON'T CALL KAN WHEN SOMEONE ELSE HAS RIICHI'D YOU MOUTHBREATHING RETARDS
JESUS CHRIST
>>14522794
Not necessarily bad, if you still play offensively, and even if you go into betaori closed kans can be useful in some rare occasions.
>>14522794
out
fucking
played
>>14522794
>not calling Kan every time
>>14522794
I just love it when someone calls kan, wastes 4 safe honor tiles they could've used, and immediately deals straight into a haneman or higher because of all the dora they added. On top of that they weren't even close to tenpai.
>>14522794
If that kan was called to attempt rinshan, then it's somewhat acceptable.
If that kan was called with a nowhere-near-tenpai hand, then it's fucking retarded.
>>14522822
Closed kans can be usefull defensively.
If there are 4 tiles left in the wall you can skip your last turn with it, and if all of your tiles look dangerous you can use it for a chance to draw a safer tile, though of course this also adds the risk of kan-dora, so it should only be used late in a round.
It happened again. What are the outs on this? I thought it was only the 2/3 pins when I made it, but now I can see the 1/4 pins work as well. Are there any others?
>>14522927
6 pin also works
3M set
4-5-6
2-3-4
2-3-4
Pair of 5p
>>14522927
>>14522941
So all the outs are
1-2-3-4-6 pin.
5 pin wouldn't work
>>14522927
Neat. That means the hand ranged in value from ii-pei-kou + tan yao to suu-an-kou, and I got nothin but riichi.
>>14522980
This may be one of those few times, when you can afford to not call a win hoping to draw a better tile. Of course, that depends on what the others are doing and the point standings.
>>14523077
South 4, non-dealer, down by 14k. A direct ippatsu hit on the leader. The correct choice was to pass, but without good scoring sense, and slightly confused by even being able to ron at that point, I did not know.The two ura-dora plus fu made it a comeback hand anyway, so all's well that ends well.
1:0
lets go dorks
Sorry, net issues once I entered the game. It sucks for everyone else, but at least it's not ranked. Borrowing my brother's phone to type this, too, lol..
>>14523619
Just kill yourself.
Pick one to Ron. And yes, this is mahjong related.
>>14523769
I'd deal my dora into Purple's hand, if you know what I mean.
>>14523769
I'd go ura on them bitches, all the way to the west round
Oh man, what the fuck was I even doing.
>>14523906
>>14523907
I'm sitting behind Akagi and I still don't know what's going on
35777p, Saki-san discards 7p? Discarding 3p would be a 56p wait.
>>14524352
I consider it less likely for people to throw out 5 and 6 of any tile.
Also, I've already discarded 1P and called twice too. 4P is more likely to come out.
Whoa, what was with that last chi and 4p discard?
>>14524367
Nobody uses nakasuji in 7447. 4p is a middle tile just like 56p, so choosing the wait with more outs would've been better.
>>14524375
>>14524375
>4p is a middle tile just like 56p
I still think it's more likely to come out than either 5 or 6. You can't change my mind.
What did i do wrong here?
>>14524384
What do you mean?
>>14524384
You played mahjong.
>>14524384
you suck die
>>14524375
>Whoa, what was with that last chi and 4p discard?
He tried to rush the game.
>>14524384
I guess you're asking why you're not in Tenpai?
Your mistake was not dealing the Chuu.
>>14524402
Yeah. I figured with the 7P out of the equation and the 5P almost at the same situation I'd just hope to somehow get another one 8P. I would just lose if I do nothing so might as well try something.
>>14524384
You should've called the last chun. You're the dealer. So at least, get to tenpai, if the hands allow you to.
>>14524352
>5777
簡単だよ！
2nd dan and 200 games after and I still don't know all the rules of Tenhou.
>>14524367
Having dealt 1p is not very important unless you have also dealt 7p. And like some other anon said, there is literally no difference between 6, and 4p and only a very slight difference to 5p. The reason middle tiles are considered more dangerous is because you can built two ryanmen waits around them. You can't do this for 1-3 and 7-9 but you can for 4-6. They are all equally dangerous in terms of outs. 5 is slightly more dangerous because there are red fives, but it doesn't matter here since the 6 alone would be just as good of a wait as the 4 and the 5 just adds to this.
Also number of outs > discard reading almost every single time.
>>14524526
You need to study study study study study...
>>14524782
It was just a lapse on calling some chis since I don't understand Moon. I thought it's not allowed to call some chis for some reason because of the rules being different but it's just me being dumb and not clicking the tiles properly.
What's a good single player mahjong PC game that I could use to practice?
I'm just a beginner....
>>14524804
Android. iPhone. PC.
Fast games. This helped me learn yaku as the AI isn't so difficult. So, I was able to yaku chase and learn them.
tfw you choose the wrong wait
also was a pretty fast game thanks to opponents having weak defensive play!
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2015122422gm-0089-0000-4822b766&tw=1
>>14524804
Saikyo no Mahjong 3D
3:0
Merry Christmas everyone!
>>14525246
To you, too, anon! Tanoshii to all!
>>14524904
>>14525188
Thanks dudes
>>14519281
What's /jp/'s goto first babby mahjong set? I've been wanting to get one without western numbers on tile corners but all I find is over $100.
>>14525280
http://www.amazon.com/Japanese-Riichi-Mahjong-White-Tiles/dp/B003UU129U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1450974491&sr=8-1&keywords=riichi+mahjong+set
This was my first one, the black one though cause it goes well with my table.
I bought it years ago and it's still good. We split the price 4 ways so it's more manageable. If you have friends to play with (if you don't, why are you buying a mahjong set?).
Just things to note
>The tiles flip easily, kinda annoying when shuffling.
The solution is just not give a shit and flip the stragglers down later.
>The haku tiles are poorly done. There's no colored/lifted backs so they're the same on both sides.
You just kinda get used to it but we had a few awkward moments before (Also someone thought they were funny to kan with haku when someone already pon'd haku earlier and it took us a few seconds to register what just happened).
Aside from that it's great, just minor issues.
>>14525318
>( you don't, why are you buying a mahjong set?).
He can play mahjong solitare.
I bought mine at a Kyoto swap meet, used, for 20$. The guy was telling me they cost upwards of 100$. I thought he was bullshitting me to make a sale but he turned out to be right. The tiles reeked of cigarettes for weeks, so you know it was the real deal.
>>14526029
>sanma
>>14526029
>3p
It doesn't count.
>>14526029
What's with all the artifacts?
Wherever I am, I must also ron
>>14525318
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Y1BJLD6/ref=s9_hps_bw_g21_i14
I bought this set some time ago, just because of the case.
>>14526060
>>14526136
Elitists.
>>14526228
Is there something wrong with that?
>>14526188
Those honba sticks look stupid. Also, are those dots on the haku tiles?
Aside from that, cool
>>14526327
Well, I wouldn't go so far as to say 3P is necessarily inferior.
>>14526357
didn't notice the dots on the haku, the black doesn't have any. I would've preferred a dot compared to nothing (though the blue mirror frame would've been better).
>>14526435
Kyouko please. It's time to take your punishment.
>>14526766
Perfect.
>>14526766
I want Yuuki to bully me !
>>14526784
I want Saki look at me with disappointment in her eyes.
>>14526766
>le ebin 3P not iz REAL mahjong image XD
Man, I forgot how shitty this board is. That'll show me to have a dissenting opinion. Have fun with your circlejerk.
>>14526987
Why are you being so defensive?
And to debate your point, 3P is inferior because mahjong was a game meant to be played with 4. 3P leads to more high value hands occuring more often, leading you to get buttfucked by a yakuman every so often and there's nothing you can do about it. It's not even fun because there's more skill involved than 4P, and that's saying something.
>>14526987
If I wanted humour I'd ask for your tenhou stats.
>>14527060
>>14526987
3p is muh baimans.
That feeling when you finally reach R1600 but get 4th in the next game, pushing you back 40 points.
![[HorribleSubs] Teekyu S6 - 71 [720p].mkv.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/yMkgT98.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Teekyu S6 - 71 [720p].mkv.jpg")
>>14526766
I thought 3p was a /jp/ thing whereas /a/ hates 3p with a passion.
>>14524698
>Having dealt 1p is not very important unless you have also dealt 7p
What makes you think I didn't deal a 7P?
>>14527378
I play 3p sometimes, when I feel like throwing tiles around but don't want to take the game really seriously. It's kinda fun.
>>14527354
I had a nightmare I went below R1600 today. I should ease off the mahjong for a bit.
>>14528433
But there's not much difference between R1600 and R1500. You can gain it back by winning a few matches.
>>14527970
>I feel like throwing tiles around but don't want to take the game really seriously. It's kinda fun.
What? This is how I play in 7447 in general. I believed everyone plays like this here.
Good game Saki.
>tfw you've been too busy for mahjong
>>14528581
Only if you have few matches. Once you reach ~300 games your ELO changes very slowly. Since I've reached 400 games my ELO changes only by about 6 points on a win or loss and 2 on a 3rd or 4th place.
>>14522794
If my hand is pure garbage and I have a lot of safe tiles, KAN.
Fuck the other players.
> be in tenpai
> have 3-4-5 pin
> shimocha and toimen clearly go for pinzu hands
> tsumkiri red 5p
why.jpg
>>14530274
>>14530274
>>14530286
What do you mean why? He called riichi.
>1:4
>3:4
2:4
I can't believe that stupid furiten riichi worked. It must be my tactical jeans.
For fucks sake
Phew
I wanted to see that daisangen
>>14530688
I didn't.
t. noname
>>14530688
All but two of my tiles were in the richii'd hand. Damn it.
>>14530688
Good job, lewdgrill. That hell wait riichi in that situation was bold as fuck.
brb killing myself
>>14530879
That's what you get for killing my Daisangen.
we got da 3:0
>>14530947
never mind it's now 2:0 like it was EVO bracket
wtf is NoName trying to do in S2?
>>14531010
He doesn't know how to play I guess. I fucking broke up my hand because the only yaku he could have was his wind, and it was fucking nothing.
Also, fucking hell. Second potential yakuman lost tonight. Damn it all.
Yo fuck you remytan
>>14531010
He probably wanted to call a 9m but called a 6m by mistake.
>>14531031
>>14531040
Yeah, then he probably settled for just keeping tenpai after that.
>>14531033
I'm flattered.
>>14531040
>>14531010
>>14531031
You're probably talking about me.
I basically went full retard just because I was extremely close to 7 pairs and remy ron'd me and I went full mad so just called everything out of anger.
It was nearly hopeless anyway. Damn everything, I can never get a yakuman, not even the lamest one.
>>14531043
Faggot.
>>14531046
Forgot this.
>>14531049
Wow, I think it's cooler than daisangen, at least.
>>14531049
It's alright man, at least you didn't call the wrong tile like I did once. I will never live that one down.
>>14531053
To me, all yakuman have personalities. Chin-rou-tou is the hipster yakuman. Daisangen is the mainstream yakuman. Shou/dai-Suu-Shii are the older,more mature brothers of daisangen. Kokushi musou is a desperate homeless man. Suu-An-Kou is a really cool, chill guy because there's no yelling involved with him. Chuu-ren is very serious and business like. Ryu-ii-Sou is tree-hugger.
>>14531079
I appreciate this post.
>>14531079
>Kokushi musou is a desperate homeless man
>>14531079
>Kokushi musou is a desperate homeless man
Are you.... special or something?
>>14531158
What do you think he'd be like then?
>>14531171
>>14531183
Fine then. His backstory is that he's a once famous war veteran fallen on hard times with no one to turn to or rely on. Happy?
>>14531194
No
>>14531199
Would you rather him be a former aristocrat?
![1451069917856[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/czUEcP6.jpg "1451069917856[1].jpg")
>>14531209
"kokushi musou, means 'a peerless distinguished person in a country'"
>>14531221
There is nothing distinguished about a hand that people go for late game because they have bad starting hands and they're behind by a lot. I will not relent on the fact that kokushi musou is usually a desperate attempt at a comeback that is the result of a trash starting hand. He can dream all he wants, but the reality is that he'll like never get anywhere.
>>14531079
Yaku also have their personalities.
Tanyao is the town bike who opens her hands for everyone. Yakuhai is her slightly less-used, but still promiscuous little sister.
Pinfu is a modest and simple girl who prioritizes on basics and fundamentals. Good friends with tsumo.
Riichi is a gambler who likes to talk big. Sometimes he hits multiple ura-dora, but sometimes ends up dealing into large hands.
>>14531246
That means that Chanta is a girl that plays hard to get, but is also good friends with Yakuhai and will sometimes accompany her. Her older sister Jun-chan hates Yakuhai though.
>>14531246
>Yakuhai is her slightly less-used
I remember reading that Yakuhai only is more common than Tanyao only.
>>14531348
So Tanyao is more familiar with group play compared to Yakuhai?
>>14531357
Maybe, but Yakuhai is the most ridden bike in town.
3:0 fags
>>14531406
>Winning with fucking nothing in the last round.
For what fucking purpose?
>>14531497
I just wanted it to end to be honest. I was making bad discards early on and just stopped caring midway.
>someone on the table is named GARIGARI
>think of those Patchouli doujins
>imagine ronning GARIGARI as fucking Patchouli in the ass
damn I'm way too sexually frustrated send help
>>14531580
Garigari is nip for large gaping assholes
>>14531586
nice, new favorite word.
>>14530573
I need more time for sleep.
>2:0
Finally hit 9th dan
>>14532050
>9th dan
>>14532050
I've got bad news for you, bud.
Has anyone in all of Tenhou ever reached 9 dan? I thought the highest rank anyone has gotten to was 8.
>>14532072
八段 594
九段 128
十段 15
天鳳位 9
>>14532072
2 people reached tenhou status.
>>14532050
That's impressively bad.
>>14532050
>Losing on purpose
There is no way anyone could really be THIS bad, r-right?
>>14532050
>116 games
>finally win one
Holy fuck. You're like a whole new level of retard.
>>14531580
Holy shit. Did you get someone pregnant with that?
Can someone please explain why I couldn't declare riichi here? I didn't take the picture at the right point, but I had just picked up the 9s.
>>14532252
Damn right I did. Gotta arrange a wedding quick.
In all honesty, though, I'm probably also pregnant (wow how?!) due to so many people ronning and wronging me.
(PS: I really like the giftbox captchas - much easier than the street sign captchas)
>>14532299
Because you only have 200 points. You need 1k for the riichi desposit.
>>14532308
Ah, thanks. I hadn't thught of that
>>14531049
Did this Chinroutou happen?
>>14532369
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2015122612gm-0009-7447-6824f81d&tw=2
Nah, man, I cockblocked it like a true punk. Apparently that was his second potential yakuman that night? Poor guy. I don't dislike that kind of playstyle.
Dunno how to set to a specific round, either.
>>14532369
>>14532380
If you're too lazy to skip through the replay.
>>14532380
Hmm, too bad. It was an odd instance, when he should've called daiminkan. Of course, few in their right mind would actually do that here. Cockblocking yakuman brings about an odd joy.
>>14532380
>>14532383
>>14532388
I used the good ole' trusty "what if" machine.
Had he called kan on the 1-man, suddenly your draws becomes his. And look where the 9-man are situated. Of course, that's barring any further tile order disruption. Sometimes, yakuman require doing fucked up things.
First chankan I've ever made.
I wish I was Yumi-chin.
the birth of a mahjong genius
FOR FUCKS SAKE
CAN YOU PLEASE STOP
>>14533177
u wot?
>>14533194
literally people called ron on me like 5 times in a row ;-;
>>14533211
Lol NoName? You were dealing risky tiles, please be more careful.
>>14533319
I just wasn't lucky I guess.
Do the winds and dragons not count for a meld if you have them in sequential order?
What about if you have all 4 winds?
>>14533341
You can only make sets and pairs with dragon and wind tiles.
http://www.japanesemahjong.com/reachmahjong/creating_hands/melds.htm
I wish I could get better at mahjong. (Kind of a repost, but I'm still frustrated)
Online mahjong is just so fast. Getting a feel for the tiles is impossible when the time that transpires between your turn and your next one is usually around 5 seconds.
I have now more than 300 games played, and I have made zero improvement in tile reading compared to the very first day I played.
I'm not expecting some Akagi-tier foresight, but shit, I don't think a normal japanese player who practiced irl with friends is supposed to be this clueless after months playing.
It feels less like I'm playing against other players, and more like I'm playing a one-player mahjong in which sometimes I will lose at complete random when the RNG wills it.
>>14533438
You can always win before the other guys get their own winning tiles.
As long as you have some points, a bullshit haneman will get you a good spot.
>>14533456
That's still one-player mahjong, like I'm saying in the last phrase.
Of course I'm going to aim for fast hands or heavier ones when I'm low on points, but still it doesn't help me in any way in playing while I have no idea what everybody else is doing.
>>14533463
Post a replay, I don't know what you mean by "one-player mahjong" when what everyone else does should have at least some effect on what you do. You're making it sound like you never even look at other people's discards unless they call riichi.
>>14533438
I feel the same. I get especially confused when someone stays damaten and I end up dealing in. How am I supposed to know when they're in tenpai? How do I even guess what they're waiting on? It all feels so random to me.
>>14533553
>You're making it sound like you never even look at other people's discards unless they call riichi.
>>14533553
>You're making it sound like you never even look at other people's discards unless they call riichi.
That's almost exactly it. There's simply no time to look at them, and even when looking when someone isn't in riichi I can't make any sense of what the discards are supposed to signify. This post >>14533559 also kind of feels like what I mean. Unless someone calls riichi it feels like the other players' discards have no meaning outside of "I guess that tile's not in play anymore, uh."
>>14533592
>There's simply no time to look at them
What? Do you play speed mahjong?
>>14533790
Even with 15 seconds of time at their disposal, the majority of players will take their move instantly.
And then you can't take your sweet time every turn because it drains your seconds 'bank'.
>>14533794
I always decide my next discard while the other players take their turns (along with a couple of backups in case the situation changes)
>>14533794
What do you need more time for? If no one opens their hand you just play solo, if someone riichis THEN you look at their pond, if someone opens their hand you THEN look at their pond because you know they are confident on getting a yaku and start guessing. I do that and win just fine.
>>14533813
>If no one opens their hand you just play solo
Isn't it important to check for tiles you may choose to wait on in other players discards so that you know you aren't putting yourself into an impossible/near impossible wait?
>>14533794
>>14533592
After one or two turns, you should know the basics of what could get you closer to tenpai or give you more uke-ire, so what do you do then? If you don't know the basics of your hand after 20 second, it's a problem of how fast you process information, because it shouldn't be difficult.
Personally, after the first few turns, I look at the discards more than I look at my hand because I already know the basic ways the hand can progress. I don't know if it goes that way for everyone though.
Damaten is always gonna be a bitch. There's no helping that. I watched an advertised high ranking game earlier today and saw a 9 dan deal into a damaten mangan value pinfu/tan yao/dora hand. Unless it's looks like a fucking obvious hon/chin istu, or a suspicious chanta, there isn't any reasonably sure method. Open hands are easier though.
