Flow > Lesbian Magic
>not riichiing every hand, even yakumen
http://pastebin.com/mu7z1WQk
tenhou.net/0/?L7447 - 1:0
>1:0
Posting it early for all the shitters that will ask about why didn't win their shitty open hand.
Is 'Goumoupai' considered as a legit move?
>>14498260
There should be an extra arrow with "Doras don't matter".
>>14498267
I don't think thats a common enough mistake
>>14498270
I think the other anon is right. It might be a beginner's mistake to count dora as a yaku that matters.It should be placed after that big yes.
Is it a dora?
Y: ur a faget
N: furiten
or something like that
>>14498277
Nah, just
>YES! -> Doras don't matter -> NO or UR A FAGET
The chart's schtick is just cutting you off because you're wrong (e.g. FURITEN). Keep it simple.
>>14498281
Well, whatever, as long as it's emphasized that doras don't count.
>>14498285
How is this?
>>14498319
Looks good mate. No problems with the content but please fix the arrows it triggers me.
>2:0
>>14497798
should we set you an IRC for waiting and post games ?
>>14498356
I did find already found 2 on actarus
#[email protected]
#[email protected]
I hate mahjong.
Every time I feel like I can stay out of last place, some asshole on the last round gets one off me and then ends the game after a twenty-hand tsumo roll.
Always last place.
>>14498403
git good
>>14498403
Well I just won from being 18700 down in the South 4 round after 4 consecutive wins. Feels good when you're on the other side of it.
>>14498407
I HATE YOU PEKOJIMA
>>14498409
Thanks for the points mate. It wasn't much.
>>14498403
I started my last game with a double riichi as dealer and proceeded to lose every other hand in the game.
Also does anyone have that "I hate Mahjong" image with the crying girl from Saki and the 4chan post?
>>14498414
implying it's not goverment fault
>not setting up tanki hell waits on winds
>>14498431
I do this. If it's in the dead wall you're fucked but other than that it almost certainly will come out.
>>14498267
no, it falls under "WHATS A YAKU" already
>>14498431
What if it's in the dead wall genius?
https://a.uguu.se/zribpx_mahjong.7z
I shat out a .7z for people wanting to get into mahjong. Comes with instructions and Saikyo no Mahjong 3D.
>>14498436
Best shit is when you open two sets hinting at tanyao while having a bunch of doras in your hand
Then some sorry guy deals in the final wind
>>14498470flow
I get the fourth tile of one of my sets of 3
call kan
win off the draw :^)
>>14498403
It appears to me that you are in dire need of gitting gud.
If you post replays I will see what could be improved.
2:0
>3:0
>someone else suddenly leaves
>back to 2:0
>>14498542
That was just my internet going out
>>14498542
Use this opportunity to play some 0000 and grind up stats you can wank to.
>>14498526
Bandou pls go. You can't even have a pinfu with a wind pair.
RINSHAN
>>14498593
You can if it's not seat or table
1:4
FUCK NO I CALLED RON ON THE WRONG TILE
>>14498631
Aren't you stuck calling it anyway? If you pass on a ron, you're stuck waiting for a tsumo right?
>>14498636
Yeah but I could've drawn it. Could've had suuankou. Fuuuuck.
Wow, thanks for cancer. This game was completely bullshit.
>>14498636
It wasn't riichi, he would be only in temporary furiten.
>>14498639
A guaranteed ron is worth more than "Maybe I can tsumo"
>>14498680
But it's better to wait for yakuman (fucking su ankou tanki) than go with just haneman. Especially in situation when this mistake cost him win in this game.
>>14498319
Ugly arrows, would not paste
>>14498477
ok
hope it's not a virus
>>14498680
The young and stupid always rush forwards. They can rush and ignore their disadvantages, they believe in themselves, that they can do it.
But they can't let go of their advantages. They will cling to them as a drowning man to straws, desperate to keep afloat no matter what. Only true men know the difference between advantages, and winning
>>14498695
>But it's better to wait for yakuman (fucking su ankou tanki) than go with just haneman.
Very, very rarely.
Only in the last round when the difference would also mean a placement difference would I even beginn to think about passing a henaman.
>>14498731
It was S3 and direct hit in right player/tsumo would end game on his favor, because one of the player would end without points.
Haneman would be enough if he strike in right player/draw tsumo, so without doubt he fucked up this hand.
Also it was early stage in the game (around seventh discard) and he has a lot of time to wait or change the wait.
>>14498737
Replay link?
Today is bad day for mahjong.
>>14498776
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2015121723gm-0009-7447-e70bbcdd&tw=3
Find S3-2 because I'm retard and I don't know how to do direct link.
>>14498821
Forgot about screen.
>>14498826
>he fell for the kokushi musou meme
>>14498821
Nah, calling ron was correct. East wind already had two open melds including a haku triplet. The risk of not winning at all, or worse, dealing into east winds hand was far too high.
>>14498826
My starting hand was so shit, that I don't have so many options. Sure, I'm suprised that I even get tenpai, but I sure deserve it after all bullshit in this game.
Well, if upperdan lobby is the place when everyone only can pull shit hands and lucky tsumo I'm no sure that I want to stay here.
>>14498844
Points difference. Haneman give him nothing at this point.
>>14498821
> I'm retard and I don't know how to do direct link.
Add &ts=X where X is the ordinal number of hand, starting from 0 iirc. I dunno what the mnemonic for ts may be. Time-Step?
>>14498877
It wasn't even the last round. The points won now might well have him won the game in the last round.
>>14498963
Mystery solved. Thanks a lot anon!
>>14498974
If you can end the game right here and right now, you should do it, because it would end like in this game. Sure, in orasu he would need only 3/40 to win game, but you cannot be sure that hand will be good and fast enough.
What's more his shimocha don't have idea what he want to accomplish, so wait a little longer would bring only good things.
>>14498986
Missquote. I want to repeat to this >>14498972
>>14498986
Still, he only had 3 outs for yakuman, which were 5s, which rarely come out and the round was already pretty far, plus the dealer had two open melds. Not calling would be highly risky.
He should have just called riichi there. With riichi he had a good chance for getting at least baiman just by getting either ura-dora, ippatsu or menzen tsumo with both the 4s or the 5s.
>>14499003
As I said before, he could easily change her wait to another tanki. About riichi, I'm no sure - I have feeling that if he wait a little longer, someone else would just discard that 5s - shimocha goes to honitsu and shimocha already discarded 4s and 6s.
Also I noticed that it was last 4s - well, if he wanted to go riichi, he should do it sooner.
>>14499032
>As I said before, he could easily change her wait to another tanki.
Yes, but then he would lose the kanchan wait. Plus the red 5 would be a pretty risky discard. So far no 5s was out and it wasn't suji against the dealer with his two melds.
>shimocha goes to honitsu and shimocha already discarded 4s and 6s.
But he had only discarded the 4s? Also it was impossible to tell that he was going for honitsu, he had discards from every suit.
And yes, the riichi should have been called right when he got into tenpai. The wait wasn't bad at all with the combined tanki + kanchan.
baum pls
You all have shitty internet and that's why it looks like I'M the slow one
Would you go for chinitsu?
>>14498319
I think this one is more accurate.
>>14499580
If 7447 - yes. I play there to get big hands and impress poor /jp/sies.
Otherwise - no:
* first place, no need to win big
* current hand is one shan ten, but for chinitsu it needs 3 tiles
* this hand already most likely will be a mangan. And with some luck it can become haneman even without ura doras.
* south player has pon of dragons so he can win fast
>>14499580
Definitely not. You are already in isshanten, discarding a sou tile would slow down the hand immensly.
>>14499608
>but for chinitsu it needs 3 tiles
4 in fact. The hand would lose 2 shanten with a sou discard. This is without a doubt not a good idea.
>>14499608
> If 7447 - yes.
That’s it.
>1:0
Fight me Gogo.
Twice during that game, I called while having no yaku in my hand.
>>14500045
No I'm mad
>>14500057
No you're just scared.
I'm waiting for my mahjong set and mat, probably going to be here in January.
I can't wait to play with people and actually learn how to play mahjong for real.
Online mahjong is on fucking speed, you have no time to actually form thoughts past really vague assumptions, and even by playing a thousand games you will learn nothing, because you can't read discards and make conclusions in the split second that passes between your discard and the other three.
The only thing I'm getting better at is tile efficiency, but my level of defensive reading is probably the same as when I started playing. All the strategies I've read about are not something I can apply with a scarce 3 seconds at my disposal.
Why is Nodoka ashamed of being cute?
>>14500107
I hope you're getting an automatic table too
>>14500107
I partly agree. I DID get better by playing more games on tenhou, but that is to a large degree thanks to me getting faster, rather than learning new strategies. If you had like double the amount of time per turn I could have probably played as well as I do now after ~400 games right from the start and could have invested the effort into learning new strategies instead of just speed. There really should be a slow game option on tenhou, if nothing else it would definitely be good for learning.
>>14500107
Are you nuts, tenhou is so damn slow! I keep thinking COME ON DISCARD ALREADY YOU FUCKING SNAIL
>>14497798
that feeling when a player gets a big lead in the early game and you get really close to cathing up but game ends
this feeling of defeat is terrible
>>14500107
Tenhou's timer is very generous, to the point that playing with newbies in 7447 can sometimes be tedious when they're slow. What exactly is it that takes you so long when making decisions? Counting up your ukeire, evaluating how safe a tile is, or what? You don't need to do these things each and every time, because with experience you'll already know what the best choice is.
>>14500183
Not him but the situation that really take time are those when you play a mixed offensive/defensive style. At worst you have to consider kabe, suji plus information from open melds against various opponents, as well as the uke-ire of your own hand at the same time. How the fuck am I supposed to do that in ~ 5 seconds.
>>14500199
It really does become much easier when you have more experience. Even then, you have 5+10 seconds, plus the time your opponents take.
>>14500218
I always rush my moves so my opponents have less time to think.
>>14500218
>Even then, you have 5+10 seconds, plus the time your opponents take
The situation can change very quickly though, by a player declaring riichi or an open meld for example. It certainly gets better, but I'd still prefer it if you had more time so the game would actually be more about who has the best strategy. Look at online poker sites for example. Poker is far simpler than mahjong in terms of the information you have to consider, yet most poker sites will give you around 20s for your turn.
This has to be the end the bad luck streak I'm on. Calling double riichi only to deal into Daisengan, with not a single person even so much as picking up my winning tiles. I can't get worse, right?
>>14500107
>I can't wait to play with people and actually learn how to play mahjong for real.
Do you actually know people who know how to play and/or are willing to play?
I have like three different sets (two unopened) and I'm in PA and can't find anyone. Even when I offer to learn Cantonese style, people still refuse because they all hate mahjong.Can't even find a bridge club that actually meets more than once a year.
>>14500391
Holy fuck
Good game, I need to practice more.
>>14500177
Calm down, Sonic.
Which 2hus would you play mahjong with?
>>14500391
>losing double riichi to a yakuman
That's just some shit luck on your ass.
>>14498731
This is one of those rare times it's better to pass on a haneman to end the game on top with yakuman. He finished 2nd, because of that failure.
Rooting for gogo!
>>14500658
Gogo, please.
>>14500603
>closed honitsu toitoi round wind triple dora
>waiting on a 4-pin nobody discarded so far
Marisa ain't gettin' that baiman. Especially if Remilia is in the mix.
Fucking RNG horseshit.
>>14500664
It's tatsumaki, a 2-3-4-5-6 wait.
>>14500664
More like suuankou nigga. She can ron it and still get the yakuman, she'll have more chances.
Won again in 7447 by a South4 comeback. Gotta feel bad for my opponents.
>>14500664
I just noticed that I was wrong and that Remilia has a 4-pin discard.
>>14500704
Oh shit, didn't realise.
>>14500706
Oh, I forget that suuankou is a yakuman sometimes.
>>14500715
It was the first yakuman I got, and I didn't even know it was a yakuman back then.
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=60935&showfiles=1 For anyone looking for Shin Janki, here's a link.
>>14500658
I won, for you
>>14500848
Rematch let's go.
>>14500848
so much bullshit going on
KyuuAA I know you're here
>dealt the chun instead of the 7 man thinking someone might've been holding onto a pair or triplet
literally killing myself brb
Why is fu not used past 4 han? Is it just to make scoring simpler, or are there other reasons? And why don't terminal sequences give extra fu(lets assume that pinfu would be replaced with a simpler yaku that still works)?
1:8
oh bby
Eat THAT waza
>>14500917
You're next faggot.
>>14500107
Where do you live? I'll play you
>tfw we're all friends through the magic of mahjong
We're all gonna make it brah
This is some next-level bullshit.
GOGOOOOOOOOOO
>no gyakuten
>>14500848
I cheered you on and then you rekt me.
Good game.
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2015100911gm-0009-0000-bba70e74&tw=0&ts=1
>shimocha
>DORA 4 FROM KAN
>GET RON'd BY SHIT HAND
HAHAHAHAH EVERYONE LAUGH AT WAZA
>>14501146
Get fucked, I won anyway.
>>14501166
I gotta admit.
I was so hyped. The flow was completely in your control that round.
I wanted you to win but that fag on my left kept calling tiles for cheap hands.
>>14501171
I was hyped too. Didn't think I would get 4 dora from that one kan. I had a feeling I was going to deal into stupid fucking hamster face eventually though, considering I only had 3 winning tiles.
Three player mahjong is weird.
>>14501199
>disgusting 3p
>>14501231
What's wrong with 3p?
>>14501240
it will get you used to a totally different game, for once
How the fuck do I into tenhou?
Everything is in fucking japanese
>>14502172
Learn Japanese idiot
>>14500645
See >>14499049
>>14500894
Why is fu not used past 4 han? Is it just to make scoring simpler, or are there other reasons?
If you would continue the normal scoring the hands would get huge very fast. And with huge I'm talking about millions and billions or even more points here. This would completely fuck up the balance of the game since small hands, riichi payments or honba would basically become pointless.
>And why don't terminal sequences give extra fu(lets assume that pinfu would be replaced with a simpler yaku that still works)?
I don't really follow, what do you mean by this?
>>14499049
It was a perfectly good suuankou tanki, that was destined to hit.
>>14502421
>that was destined to hit.
Opinion discarded.
>>14497798
3.0
>>14497798
come on waza
What's this whole furiten FURITEN F U R I T E N thing mean?
Fuvk you gogo
>>14502582
The ura dora are calling to me
Get in here Gogo.
>>14497798
>people don't believing in the flow
There's no stopping Kuyashii now.
just got my ass kicked... i think.
How many of you have actually bothered learning how to count Fu? It
>>14502792
I have cause I have a physical mahjong set and it is surprisingly easy. The only difficult part in the beginning is remember how many fu each pon/kan is worth. I even made a program really quick for my friends to use to count han/fu.
I fucking hate ledgrill
Losing first place like that is so awful.
>>14502792
I did. With a chart its really easy
>tfw you get a fucking ridiculous comeback hand
>delayed riichi for 1 turn on a whim and got ippatsu to bring you up to sanbaiman
>>14502792
I just go for pinfu all day.
>>14503086
Nice one, but would you check this?
>>14502567
this is for you>>14498260
1:0 C'MON LET'S GO
![[Coalgirls]_Baccano!_16_(1280x720_Blu-ray_FLAC)_[3068AE4A]_0214.png](https://i.imgur.com/sZSMdKB.png "[Coalgirls]_Baccano!_16_(1280x720_Blu-ray_FLAC)_[3068AE4A]_0214.png")
>>14500391
If only I was given hands like these last ones in every game.
I won.
One of the most frustrating things is to get a ahead of the game right on the first hand, and the lose internet connection on the following round.
>>14500403
>>14500943
I have 5 people I taught how to play, two of which are my flatmates, so we could play 3-players any time.
I'm in the north of Italy, so I doubt any of you could physically play me.
>>14503627
cool, I'm italian too.
I have tought 4 people so far
what is your tenhou name? mine is bk201
>>14503720
Oppairon or 0ppairon
>>14502792
If you play with real tiles, you have to, unless someone else is capable of doing it.
>>14502469
Yakuman virgin detected.
>>14503757
Wrong, though. I had one Suu Ankou.
>>14502407
Sequences with terminals in them are naturally harder to form, so wouldn't it make sense for them to give fu?
>>14503772
It's slight, but not significant enough on its own. Besides, penchan gives fu anyways.
>>14503772
They're still a lot easier than even open triplets of middle tiles which already give 2 fu, though.
I thought that I’ll be ronned or end up furiten, but no, the 7447 doesn’t let me down.
>>14497798
>1:0
>>14497798
shogi is shit and you fucking faggots are shit too
>mfw, losing points in the East round only to dominate the South round for the win
>>14504033
she still couldn't stop the mosters
>>14503198
For people who insist that they are not on furiten and they have yaku, like when they mistakenly count dora.
Well, apparently, there's a limited number of times where you get disconnected and reconnect in a Tenhou game. Sadface.
>>14504026
shogi, xiangqi, and go are amazing
>>14504026
Fuck off, chessfaggot
>>14504217
Chess is fun too, bubba.
Unfortunately, while I play chess a lot, I don't really play xiangqi or shogi enough to develop strategy.
>>14497798
3 without rank
this will be a pon palace
>>14504230
toi toi or death
Your sacrifice to remove the tyrant of the East was well appreciated, Baum.
Through effort, I was able to end the war with pace and with the least amount of casualties.
Alas, only taking second place, my heart is burdened with regret.
>>14504227
To be fair. Being a riichi player, I shit on other mahjongs like 'murrican style.
>>14504271
You're just lucky that I stupidly pon'd that south wind. I had to switch my hand to chanta because of it.
>>14497798
3.4
I will behead Gogo.
>>14504443
Not if I behead myself first!
>>14504443
>Muslims playing mahjong
>>14504464
Or mexicans
>>14504464
Ackbaring before, during and after each draw/call.
>>14497798
0.16
pretty good
>>14504443
get in the line
What's with all those people today?
>>14504533
But I thought there were 7 chapters translated so far, and that scene isn't in there
>>14504443
Do not behead my idol.
From last to second in an instant. Too bad it was too late to catch up.
>>14504540
>It's from chapter 78
>>14504568
how
That's right Gogo.
Last place, where you belong.
>>14504591
It's the lewdgrill curse, I tell you
>>14504581
Kindai Mahjong is published in English in taiwan, a month behind the Japanese release. People don't seem to scan them however.
I need to learn to stop thinking and just discard the fucking honor tiles.
Also, I swear every time I change a pair wait, I draw the tile I just discarded on my next turn.
HA, no daisangen eh?
>>14504637
>just discard the fucking honor tiles.
Why? They're really useful and people always pon them
Nice dora 4 Gogo
>>14504654
daisangen is for fags
>>14504659
Discard them early in the game instead of keeping them and opting to discard actually good tiles. If someone pon'd them, just defend against them when necessary.
>>14504659
If somebody is waiting to pon them, it means you have a lower chance of getting multiples and, if you're gonna discard them, it's best to do it early on when they'll be pon'd instead of ron'd.
>>14504637
You're only supposed to keep them if you have a pretty good assumption that your opponent is waiting on that tile based on his seat and his discards. Keeping it till midgame then throwing it by then is pretty useless. It's a different case when you draw it midgame and it's a live tile. In that case that would be dangerous and it is just right to keep it .
>>14504591
Did you say something?
GOGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>14504689
Let's go Gogo I'll put you in your place.
I won't let you finish even one hand, Waza.
For some reason tenhou keeps bugging out and it makes me discard my rightmost tile sometimes regardless of what I click. How the hell do I keep this from happening so I can stop throwing away my god damn yakuhai?
>>14504713
Don't use Firefox.
>>14504721
I'm using botnet though
>>14504713
If it's from your hand I don't know but if it's your draw, a double click does that.
>>14504689
gogo will place either first or last
Cheering for Waza!
3 riichis at once? This shit is rigged.
>>14504738
it's probably gogo
In Akagi, was that thing he did where he hid a tile in the closed kan considered cheating? Like, doing that doesn't actually alter the positions of any tiles or give him any information, it just leaks false info.
>>14504746
I don't know, but it was cool as hell.
>>14504698
Liar.
>>14504738
I'm not pathetic enough to samefag myself like Gogo.
/a/ is winning
Shame on you
>>14504761
wait for the upset at south 3
B-Baka Baka, I let you win that one you better get that through your head Waza I'm way better than you!
>>14504766
Woah thanks for spoilering me asshole
By the way snape kills han solo
what do you guys eat while on a mahjong binge?
>>14504782
Boogers.
>>14504782
>eating
>>14504782
I lick my onahole
>>14504782
Tacos.
>>14504782
Crème brûlée
>game has user juicebox at the table
>third day in the row I've seen this buster
he's my fated nemesis.
also do you all prefer closed hands or open hands? i like closed hands, myself.
>no last round comeback
>>14504823
I like closed hands but I open mine up frequently for the sake of winning.
>>14504782
I get some Hersey chocolate bars and break them all into the pieces, then I pretend they're tiles and arrange them on my desk like a game of mahjong. If I win by tsumo I eat my hand.
>mfw, needing to pee during mahjong
>>14504935
get a laptop. I play while shitting all the time
>100 points away from second place
>>14504953
Honestly I just wanted the game to end ever since that one shitter left. Makes the game slower when only 3 people are playing.
>>14504935
Always happens to me. I wait till someone wins before I get North so I get the most time to go away. I always still end up losing the extra time and discarding a tile but it's fine and it's not something that I can't make up.
>>14504965
>>14504935
>not just pissing in a cup/bottle
>>14504953
I don't want to drink it thinking it's my gatorade again.
>>14504935
Why not just go before you join?
>>14504981
>quoting the wrong person
Also, that sounds absolutely disgusting
>>14504981
>again
Please don't queue if you're just going to leave.
>>14504782
Pussy
>>14504823
I don't think it's really something one prefers. Whether to open your hand or not just depends on the particulars of the moment.
>>14505068
If you're talking about me, then sorry. My connection constantly fails and it takes me about 10 refreshes to actually load the lobby, so I sometimes just can't be bothered rejoining when I have already lost a few rounds
Spectating is fun.
Kans for days
>>14504976
>not wearing a diaper like a cute little girls are meant to
>>14505103
Yes, it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTAv_4wTRAs
>>14505103
Hitoshi?
>>14505103
I especially enjoy spectating dan games in the ranked lobby. It's always fun to see experienced players going at it.
>>14505176
10 dan in progress.
http://wikiwiki.jp/kusotsuno/?%BF%B7%BA%EE%C7%D7%C9%E8%C4%C9%B5%AD%CD%D1 I forgot about this dank link full of the best hands in Tenhou ever.
