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This thread is for the discussion of untranslated Japanese visual novels.
What are you playing? What are you looking forward to? What have you finished? You know the drill.
>>14436634
Finally decent game in OP.
And continuing the question from the last thread, do you agree with the green guy?
>>Grisaia was one of those series that made me lose all hope in the eroge community. It was god awful, yet popular. It’s not as though I hated it due to taste either. No, the game was just a haphazard hodgepodge of what the creators thought would be “cool”. Yet none of them had any real relationship to each other and made no sense.
>>14436645
>No, 1st Grisaia is one of my all-time favorites
Why?
>>14436643
How was the trial?
>>14436655
I didn't like it, but the general consensus is that it's really good.
>>14436651
Rare case of humour/SoL stuff which I actually can enjoy.
>>14436644
I dont know about the community but the first grisaia game's common route was not bad though everything past that honestly makes me wonder what the fuck they were thinking. Im glad I didnt continue reading past that.
>>14436655
Posted my impressions a while back: https://warosu.org/jp/thread/S14376402#p14378265
>>14436668
Seems pretty cool.
Just finished Village of Nightmare 2, shit was pretty good. Shame no major nukige producer can make a corruption-based VN like this these days, all I can think of that comes close is Black Cyc with Yami no Koe, but they're long dead.
>>14436645
How is Hatsumira kiddie shit? Are you just making a knee jerk reaction to the protagonist and fantasy setting?
>>14436644
I've learned never to trust Zen. He's overly negative and critical. He's shit on a lot of games that I just laid back and had a great time with.
>>14436865
>How is Hatsumira kiddie shit?
I just can't stand these rpgmaker-like fights and whole "killing humans is bad, lets kill some zombies instead" shit. And whole setting just doesn't feel serious, its like princess and everyone else are just playing in being rebels. And then protag is supposed to be pilot, imperial officer, but he feels like coming straight from shonen manga.
>>14436936
>he feels like coming straight from shonen manga.
The way you put it, it sounds like Star Wars.
>>14436936
I don't think Hatsumira was written as a "fantasy epic", it feels to me that Frontwing build the setting around being a comedy eroge, rather than being a real attempt at a meaningful fantasy world (like say Aiyoku no Eustia). First and foremost, the game is a comedy, and while it steps into darkness with very frequent references to death, slaughter, starvation, etc, it maintains a focus on being an "eroge" first. For example, pic related, most of the exposure you get to the evil german empire is these two jokers, and most of the time is spent humanizing them in a comedic fashion. Not making them into total shounen buffoons, but also not making them 2 dimensional evil demons. I haven't finished the game yet so I won't expand too much, who knows how Chapter 2/3/4 will change up things. But for now, I think calling it "kiddie shit" is a fairly shallow analysis of the game. It's definitely aimed at adults. It's a mature game, even if it's not too serious about it all the time.
>>14437008
But is it good?
>>14437011
I think so. I like it a lot. The writing is competent and the characters enjoyable. I don't expect anything from this game except a good time and I'm certainly getting it, I actually really like fantasy settings, and when the MC started cutting up zombies orges and whatnot I just thought it was fun. To be honest I'm disappointed (but not surprised) to learn that some people are viewing the MC's tough dude violence as shounen-esque kiddie shit. I just enjoyed the (very brief action).
I'm not an eroge expert or anything though. I'm sure anyone coming off Aiyoku no Eustia (or expecting that kind of game) will be disappointed.
>>14437056
Well, I didn't mean it as implying that hatsumira is bad, just I was very disappointed coming with expectations of GnK in fantasy setting. I've enjoyed second chapter of hatsumira, but its still like 7/10 material, while grisaia is 9+/10
>>14437069
It's pretty much fantasy Grisaia to me. Not sure what you were expecting that makes it different.
>>14436795
>but they're long dead.
What.
They've been posting for weeks about how they're making a new Extravaganza.
http://blackcycblog.blog.fc2.com/
>>14437147
Oh shit, I saw last year they didn't have shit out since 2011 and assumed they folded up.
All their newer works were garbage though anyway, guess most of the original team is long gone or something considering the drop in quality, (look at you Yami no Koe Ibun Roku).
I don't think Sakura no Uta was better than Subahibi.
In 逃避行GAME is there really no good end for Nia, even after completing every route or for some reason I just didn't get it?
>>14437302
Neither do I, but it was good.
>>14437302
>>14437316
Both are shit. Fuck off.
>>14437348
You're shit.
>>14436643
Trap games are never good, even if you add battles to them.
>>14437699
That art is disgusting.
>>14437699
Why don't they just use the artist of the original series?
>>14437699
What the hell, why did they replace it with dlsite tier art? The best thing about that series is the fappable art.
>>14437699
nice to see theres another one coming. PxC2 was miles better than the first one so i'm hoping this continues the upward trend
>>14437302
you are crazy mate. sakuuta is on par if not better than subahibi.
My little childhood friend can't be this retarded.
>>14437008
Which route do these guys appear the most?
>>14437821
Nah. Subahibi was more focused and frankly significantly more entertaining while retaining a strong message. Sakura no Uta had some good scenes, but it dragged at times and the ending was kind of anticlimactic. It wasn't bad by any means, but it wasn't as well done overall as Subahibi was.
https://www.legendsworld.net/webroot/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=71559#p71559
This might be useful to some of you who buy eroge on DMM.
>>14437909
I thought SoftDenchi was already well known, but I guess it's just select works that were. Nice to know the technicalities behind it though, I think I got a couple of SoftDenchi commercial games not from DMM but I don't recall out of the top of my mind which.
>>14437699
What the fuck is that art? Definitely worst art of cation series so far, most likely I will not even play it.
>>14437860
Wait what game is this? The art is nice.
>>14438036
I think it's 君と恋する学園喫茶
>>14437895
>>14437302
I think the traditional route structure was holding back the story for the most part. The h-scenes and romance weren't particularly good, so in a game like this it feels more like an afterthought.
For example Makoto's and most of Rin's routes had no significance other than a bit of exposition that could have been given at a later part.
>>14438204
Thanks anon.The rest of the art isn't nearly as good as that one CG...
>>14436634
>Grisaia was one of those series that made me lose all hope in the eroge community. It was god awful, yet popular. It’s not as though I hated it due to taste either. No, the game was just a haphazard hodgepodge of what the creators thought would be “cool”. Yet none of them had any real relationship to each other and made no sense.
I actually kind of agree, if we're talking about the series as a whole. The first game was a pretty great charage withespionage / militaryundertones, the second was just a fan disc with a sequel hook and the third's plot was a mess of batshit retarded things casually revealed and asspulled out of nowhere (using Kazuki in a computer, cloning, weapons dealers with MGS4 style floating fortsetc.) that go mostly unexplained apart from "well, everything is possible as long as you have enough money" handwave. The finale in particular and the main antagonist's clicheness had me smashing my head on the keyboard.
>>14437699
The series' art direction just keeps on going down the drain. What the fucking hell.
>>14438225
Meant as a reply to >>14436624
Does anyone know how to get past this bug in Rance 6? I've tried multiple installs/settings and it always fucks up after the intro dungeon. I'm on Windows 8.1 and updated the game with the 1.5 patch.
It'd suck if I have to skip to Sengoku because 6 is the one I've been most excited to play.
>>14437621
It's great. though. At least that's the trial.
>>14438231
Report it to the developers
>>14438204
I only picked it up because they forgot to put some mosaics on some CGs. Not a strong strong motivation, but I'm bored as hell.
>>14438231
I had that too and it was somehow fixed by rebooting once.
>>14438259
>forgot to put some mosaics on some CGs
Interesting. I have never heard about something like that before. I looked up the CG. Too bad the art isn't better.
>>14438345
Kimiita from age I think lacked censorship in one CG?
>>14438360
I believe it was a handful of them actually.
Along with plagiarism.
>>14438696
>plagiarism
Elaborate.
>>14438231
I finished it fine on W8.1. Just so you know that it most likely doesn't have anything to do with it.
>>14438700
Some turboautists on 2ch discovered that Miyata Sou had traced over more stuff from other companies after the initial tracing incident.
age issued a formal apology, and fire him.
It's part of why the TE VN was such a disaster, as they had to throw out all of the previously done artwork, and didn't have enough money to hire another proper artist so they had all the other (mostly garbage) artists that were on the staff for other stuff pitch in and redo everything.
>>14438714
Wow.
>>14437302
Will we ever get something as good as subahibi? It felt like a one time experience.
>>14438714
Interesting. I wonder why they decided to rehire him.
>>14438760
They probably kept him onboard for the TE VN because it was in development hell for years as it was between the earthquake and everything else, and throwing out whatever work he had already done for it wasn't worth it unless they absolutely had to especially since KimiIta '11 was delayed a shit ton, and had issues of its own besides that like having to release two routes in a free patch a month or two after the actual release datebecause Maaya Sakamoto couldn't make it in time to record a lot of her lines due to getting stuck in a typhoon.
>>14438340
>>14438713
I guess it has to do with your GPU or something like that. I just tried it on a different laptop and got through it just fine.
>>14438737
Sakura no Uta was just as good as SubaHibi in my opinion. It's just lacking the denpa and extreme stuff that made SubaHibi unique.
Mature philosophy for an adult audience
>>14438988
Why are the character designs so shit?
>>14438991
Yukikaze is really a standout character in my opinion for "bad" design, in the sense that her clothes just look dumb, but pretty much everyone else I've met looks fine.
I think, in my opinion, the setting of the game would be significantly improved if Yukikaze was a more minor noble woman than she is, it's really weird how this major pureblood princess who's heading a large rebel army is travelling the country to seek allies with only a strange weirdo as company, no guards or soldiers or trusted friends or anything. It would make a lot more sense for a minor rebellious niece-of-a-duchess to be the token dragon girl.
>>14439009
Yeah, and not only is her design bad, her character is unappealing in every aspect.
Dumb, annoying, and naive.
Just remove her.
>>14438991
All main girls look bad too me. Blue is tasteless and has Watanabe manface, blonde and pink are generic bimbos, loli is literal abomination. Other females are passable.
>>14438760
They didn't. He traced magazine art to make magazine art and that was just way too fucking obvious so he finally got caught and there was the usual apology jamboree, then everyone went back and looked at his other stuff and realized he'd been tracing everything forever so he got shitcanned.
In hindsight it was really obvious because characters would have wildly different breast sizes and heights depending on who or what he was tracing (JRPG promo art, gravure photos, whatever), I couldn't even tell whether Yifei was supposed to be flat or stacked until the anime was made.
>>14438714
There's only an odd few really badly drawn CGs in there, it's mostly the colouring that's shit in the PS3 version. I think it shows more in just how many things are just skipped over so they don't have to draw anything though.
>>14438868
>Maaya Sakamoto
Yuu Asakawa
>>14439063
>blonde and pink are generic bimbos
I think you're just being overly critical there. They look fine.
>>14439078
Oh actually I forgot he did get caught tracing in KimiIta and that was where the apologies happened then the TE thing immediately got him kicked out on the street, disregard I suck cocks.
>>14438988
*tips fedora*
>>14439078
>Yuu Asakawa
durr, I'm a retard.
Should've checked before I opened my mouth considering how bad I am with remembering VA names to begin with and what I was typing didn't seem right to me anyway.
>>14439096
It was the final TE thing that they apologized on a live stream for right? The two events have begun to blend together in my mind.
>>14439153
This was for KimiIta, I don't know if they streamed an apology the second time or just released a letter.
>>14437699
We're never going to get back Iizuki Tasuku are we?
>>14437699
Really now? I'll still give it a shot (PxC2 was alright) but they couldn't they at least hire a better artist?
>>14437699
Is that Karory?
AKA, the second worst artist at Makura?
>>14439388
It's Nanaroba Hana, according to EGS.
http://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/creater.php?creater=21043
Don't feel like revving up a VPN to get to the actual game site.
>>14439411
Oh, it's the new Lump of Sugar artist. I knew I saw that shit style somewhere before.
>>14439422
I don't outright hate their art, but having them change the artist every single time is getting annoying, especially if they're intending to make this into a yearly series.
Hopefully maybe this time the e-mote will be better optimized at least.
>>14439388
Is there a good artist at Makura?
>>14439511
No.
>>14439518
I liked some CGs in Sakura no Uta though. But it all went south with H scenes. And Rin's CGs, damn.
>>14439313
Asami Asami is great too, but the new artist is definitely a downgrade.
>>14439388
Karory's art is cute and detailed, it's not the best from Makurasoft but it's better than the picture you're quoting.
>>14437699
>>14437819
This.
It's a pattern. Only the second game in each Cation series has been good.
So let's just look forward to the next one, right? I wonder why they can't just keep a good artist, though.
>>14439313
Hinata best xC girl.
>>14439965
>Hinata best xC girl.
You bet.
>>14439519
I thought the CGs in Sakura no Uta are masterpieces
>>14439991
Yaaaas I wish Hinata was my neighbour
>>14439519
There's not a single good CG of Shizuku.
>>14439313
LovelyxCation 3 perhaps?
>>14439965
> Only the second game in each Cation series has been good.
I honestly can't agree with this at all. PxC had issues, but LxC was great.
> I wonder why they can't just keep a good artist
Part of it is probably because the artists they've been using have been freelancers so they might be busy with other stuff or whatever seeing how they seem to want to release in April each year. Like Asami Asami is listed as the main artist for a game by Ensemble coming out in March which creates an obvious scheduling issue. Iizuki Tasuku is probably currently working on Tone Works' 3rd Project, and probably was working on Sei Kishi when the development on this title started.
>>14439991
Single-handedly made me a fan of Toono Soyogi, she was adorable.
They better have the option to have a girl call you onii-chan in the new games.
>>14439991
I kinda dislike silly emoticon expressions but Hinata just pulls them so well.
>>14440147
>Tone Works' 3rd Project
Dont know if hyped or worried, Yume Mirai was pretty good but Hatsukoi was utterly shit.
>>14440458
As long as there's an option for no condoms period it'll be superior to both by default.
>>14440493
Did people complain enough for TW to say anything? Im sure its thanks to that why MC in YM was miles better than the H 1/1 one(I wonder if they will use another nameable MC)
>>14439083
They have really generic kawaii faces and their clothes, while not bad, look outstandingly plain next to Yukikaze and Ria.
>>14440552
HoshiOri didn't really hit the right notes for me like Hatsukoi did so I haven't really been keeping up with them past checking their HP every now and then.
Maya was just basically perfectly to my tastes from design to VA to everything that HoshiOri couldn't hope to match it.
>>14440493
Stop promoting unwanted teenage pregnancies.
>>14440605
Yuuma is too insuferable to enjoy the heroines, i even lost respect for them for liking him.
>>14440627
Its 2D, it takes a huge ammount of semen for pregnancy.
I don't see a nukige thread so I'm going to post my impressions of the new nomad ntr game here:
Holy shit, this, this isn't a nukige for me at all. I personally love the ntr genre but not because I love roleplaying as the sad sap who gets ntr'd but because I love girls falling from virtue and becoming sluts. And I can't articulate it but this game, woof, it's heavy. I take a pretty a detached view from the protagonist in ntr games and I don't know, even with that mindset I ended up being a bit sympathetic to the protag here. Maybe it was because of all the overuse of commas and the viewpoint never leaving the protag's, I don't know. I think if you like ntr because you love the feeling of getting hurt and the feeling of lost then you'll might enjoy this. Me? Oof, this is a bit too heavy.
I rate this 0/10 faps, can't fap to this shit. If I had liquor on hand I would've down it by now.
Is it just me or is ensemble's 恋する気持ちのかさねかた incredibly short?
>>14440740
it's everyone
>>14437008
>it maintains a focus on being an "eroge" first
Into the trash it goes.
What is the best futa nukige? I really like that one 3p scene in Maggot baits, even though the rest of the subject matter is unappealing.
Man, listening to this was hilarious.
Anything else where a girl uses English in the H scenes? Has this ever been done with one of those gaijin heroines you sometimes get?
>>14441394
What's that from?
Can anyone recommend some good mother son incest games?
>>14441454
性器雇用
>>14440740
Its short
>>14440057
I like to think Shizuku's route didn't exist in Sakura no Uta.
>>14442458
What about Makoto's?
>>14442458
I like to think Sakura no Uta didn't exist.
>>14441606
>サンキュー
Lost it.
>>14441514
https://vndb.org/v2971
https://vndb.org/v17427
https://vndb.org/v4624
https://vndb.org/v1604
>>14440690
> I personally love the ntr genre because I love girls falling from virtue and becoming sluts.
I 100% agree
I found the game Kedamono Ie to be pretty hot but the MC having a mental breakdown at the end was really depressing.
Guys I just found this month's NTR landmine. I think I have a talent for this shit since I was one of the very first players who played 恋×シンアイ彼女 without knowing anything.
If anyone is actually wondering it:At IF route your Childhood Friend who likes you very much gets ntred by your best friend.
So, What the fuck?
>>14444073
That's Naderebo right? Do you have any screenshots of the dialogue? I could go for a good laugh.
>>14444080
I didnt get any screenshots, but basically:You suddenly see your childhood friend and best friend coming school with holding hands, saying some ichaicha things to each other
Since the IF route is about sub heroines mc doesnt care about it, but I just cant understand the reason for this. I guess they are trying to make it popular by adding some unexpected ntr since a couple of games got famous because of it. But I think those games at least had some reasons or they were just jokes, this one is pure shit.
>>14444111
How is it NTR if they aren't in a relationship and MC is going for a completely different girl?
>>14444073
Koikake wasn't even ntr though.
>>14444117
Technically Its not, but 恋×シンアイ彼女 or Hanasaki didn't have any real ntr either. I think this one is closest to it, since you are actually seeing the heroine with someone else, even if its not at the same route.
>>14444073>>14444111
This is not NTR. Heroines moving on and finding some other love target is much better than keeping with one-sided love and staying in protag's friend zone forever.
>>14444127
If a girl finds happiness in any universe that doesn't involve dating the MC, then she is a slut, plain and simple.
>>14444073
What? The entire point of that side route is that it's an alternative route with the side heroines as the new main heroines. Several minutes into the thing that girl specifically says that she only sees the MC as a good friend in this alternate world. There's no romantic relationship between the two of them at all, it's a set of side routes.
>>14444146
May I direct you to >>14422055 wherein Japanese readers on egs were buttblasted that a main heroine of a game dated/banged another guy in an alternate universe
>>14444127
>>14444137
Here comes the White Knights. I cant understand this logic, its not like that scene had any effect at story or something. Just saying "We are dating" would be okay, but why the hell is the game forcing us to see their ichaicha scenes? Its a fucking heroine you know? You are finishing her route, Start the IF one and seeing her going full love with your best friend.
And you guys are saying its ok to have in a moege, hell even better.
>>14444155
Why did you quote me? I was serious
>>14444151
Who cares about some jap 独占厨 kids? There's no influence on ratings or sales from them even in Japan itself.
>>14444155
Moege should only have one route, otherwise all the other girls are being cheated on.
>>14444165
It doesn't matter if MC dates someone else, it matters if the girls date other people
>>14444165
It's okay if the protag is the one doing the cheating. No harm there.
>>14444155
Personally it makes me feel bad when "rejected" girl still clings to protag in non-her route and keeps displaying her undying love. Scene with her being happy with someone else is actually good thing for my consciousness, unlike actually disturbing shit in koikake or workspring.
>>14444168
SLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT
>>14444151
That was basically just two guys last I checked, and one of them had a bunch of walls of text in the comments for their review and was getting shit on by two other people.
>>14444073
Looks like EGS isn't happy about it either.
I don't understand what goes through the writers' heads when they include stuff like this in games marketed as 純愛. Do they really think no one will mind? Have they not paid any attention to the industry at all in the past ten years?
>>14444165
I always found in interesting that some otaku will play every route in a moege without any remorse and cry, yet bitch and cry if one of the girls is seen as much as talking to another guy outside of her route.
I never got why it was such a big deal, as long as if she isn't cheating on MC on her route. Then again I don't really get that attached to that many girls in moege either, they are just flavor of the month games played for quick and fun entertainment. I am not going to get up in arms about some copypasted girl that I'll see in the next 50 games.
>>14444199
Rather surprising that after all these years they still don't understand their demographic
>>14444199
They just do it to piss otaku off. It's as if they really don't enjoy writing these kind of games and are in it for a quick buck. Naderebo and Koikake were both made by starter companies, especially the latter received a lot of preorders. Writing NTR-esque shit is probably a last "fuck you" before they make off with their money.
>>14444268
But Koikake wasn't even ntr.
>>14444199
I'm not sure about the others since they were pretty famous even without it, but for this I think its just for the advertisement, nothing else. Most likely they just saw the other games & how people are actually talking about it, and decided to go with "there’s no such thing as bad publicity, lets add one so people will talk about us as well." But the biggest problem is others were written by popular writers or made by big companies, while this one is a just shitty little company's first game with some unknown writer.
>>14444275
Yeah you're right. It was just more the main heroine being a manipulative and selfish cunt.
>>14444268
Eroge seems like the wrong industry to be in if you're just after a quick buck. Plus, I doubt Koikake gained Niijima any new fans, and probably lost him a few old ones. It doesn't make sense to me.
>>14444294
Still kind of a problem for a pure love game.
>>14444206
Keep in mind that this kind of games are about you choosing an heroine and then she only having eyes for Mc or only MC having a chance.
That heroine you dont care about is some people "the girl" so seeing as the posibility of she liking another guy destroy your perception of her. Doesnt matter if its an IF route since its canon in its own right.
>>14444296
The eroge world is burning and they just want to add fuel to the fire
>>14444336
>That heroine you dont care about is some people "the girl"
These people who have only ever played one eroge, done one route, and fallen in love with one girl seem sure to make up a huge portion of the industry.
>>14444336
Most of these people play multiple moege a month. They probably just forget the girl a few days later after finishing her route. That's why it doesn't make any sense to me.
>>14444383
>>14444391
Or maybe you know they make them their waifu.
Say if someone came and made LxC NTR edition i would still be pissed even if my interest in the girls had wore off because it would change my perception of them.
>>14436936
>the whole "killing humans is bad" shit
speaking from a vantage point of 43 hours later, humans do die. man this game is taking a long time to read
I tried visiting untranslated vn thread in reddit. Checked some of the old threads too. 20% of them posting about shit like Tsukihime and Umineko, moogy is always posting about obscure and old shit but for some reason his upvotes are twice as other people who post a long detailed review about a more normal and recent game. Discussion also rarely happen and if it's happen half of the time it's about "this is my first vn, and I'm struggling to read it! Don't worry, you can get better if you read more!"
I guess this place is still much better even with our dedicated shitposter. Sorry, if it's a bit off-topic but I just want to tell that you guys are awesome.
>>14445034
Fuck you
>>14445034
> 20% of them posting about shit like Tsukihime and Umineko
I visist WAYR Untranslated for like a year and didn't see unineko or tsukihime there even once.
Regarding HatsuMira -Did anyone see the twist in Chapter 1 coming? It caught me completely off guard, I swore at my PC even. Retrospectively I guess it should have been obvious? But I didn't expect it at all. I haven't read any further.
>>14445273
How long are these chapters anyway?
>>14445317
Pretty long. Long enough to make me wonder if the common route is actually the "plot" of each girls route, so to speak, with the actual branches themselves just being ichaicha/romance.
>>14445034
go away
>>14444294
sounds like NTR to me
>>14445034
>I guess this place is still much better even with our dedicated shitposter.
Shitposter found. Go away pls.
Fuk this art is good.
>>14445320
>Pretty long
Kyurio's backstory flashback is unnecessarily long
>>14437699
Looks awful.
>>14437699
Why does Hibiki hire other artist other than Tazuku? Did she got fed upt with them or the whole free append stuff bite them in the ass that they cant afford her?
btw does anyone knows where i can get a rip of the Vita LxC new CGs?
>>14445408
You don't know what NTR is.
>>14446080
Don't talk to me like that.
>>14446130
Make me, bitch.
>>14445317
2nd is much shorter compared to the first.
Finally got around to reading Kamikaze Explorers, enjoying it about as much as Sakigake.
Also, I've been reading the 双星陰陽師 manga and love the romance in it so far.
You guys have any recommendations on eroge with 結婚前提のお付き合い?
>>14446289
>enjoying it about as much as Sakigake
I'd recommend doing just Mishio and Saori though, the other routes are quite bland or outright bad (Kotoha).
>>14446289
I'd only recommend reading only Mishio's and Saori's routes. The other routes are lackluster and there's basically no point reading them unless you like the girls themselves
>>14446306
>(Kotoha)
but what about her tits....
>>14445273
Said twist was rather obvious considering we didn't see aproper death scene for Kyurio and didn't get a explanation for her actions.I wasn't expecting that timing though
As a side note Misuka and Damone are getting increasingly annoying the longer they survive
>>14446329
Download a full save file and watch the H scenes then.
>>14446306
>>14446319
I was just starting Fuuka, since that's who I got choosing naturally. Mishio and Saori are my favorites though, so I guess I'll start with those two and if I'm in the mood I'll play some others. Wasn't really interested in Manami or Kotoha anyway.
Ichirou has poor taste in regards to glasses
>>14446758
Who?
>>14446937
果つることなき未来ヨリ's protag
>>14445680
Yeah, when that happened I thought "did they learn nothing from Amane's route in Grisaia"? Well, either way, it ended well.
>>14446947
Where are you right now?
I keep hearing the game is really long but does it stay kind of entertaining or is just long in a dull way?
>>14446995
Angelic Howl is like the most popular part of Grisaia in Japan so
>>14447001
Well, popularity doesn't make it good.
>>14447009
I didn't say that, but since it was popular they obviously didn't have to "learn" something
>>14447015
I suppose not, if they're trying to write a popular story and not a good one.
>>14447009
Clearly lots of people thought it was, so no reason to change it.
>>14447020
>so no reason to change it.
Pacing being absolutely killed by flashbacks is a good enough reason, I think. At least in Amane's route there was no main narrative to interrupt at the time, in HatsuMira it happens in the middle of something pretty important. Surely there's a way to express that two characters have a prior history without dedicated 1/4 of a route to directly showing them have that history.
>>14446997
I'm currently at the Mermaid town. When they want to advance the plot and have interactions between the characters it's entertaining enough to keep me almost constantly reading but the writer has a VERY bad habit of using way too many words to convey even the most basic of messages and this can lead to some very long dull moments like with the example below.
>>14446995
Kyurio's backstory could have easily had half the amount of dialogue than it did, There was no need for a 1~2 hour backstory to explain her very basic motivationswhich in the end was basically a pointless endeavor that I honestly can't fathom.In the end it completely killed the tension of the chapter and I just wanted it to end as quickly as possible
If said backstory was any longer I might have just dropped the game entirely
>>14447061
Yeah, I still like the game enough to keep reading but the whole Kyurio flashback + the fact that this is longer than Grisaia's common route, has made me want to just take breaks in between chapters to read moege or something.I think the whole thing was a joke about "curiosity killed the cat".
>>14447106
>spoiler
Fair point,I don't want to accept that at some level because It just makes all of the cat race complete fuckwits but considering their actions that's not that surprising.
Are you guys playing Steins;Gate 0 or is it too pleb?
>>14447245
>console exclusive
Fuck 5pb, I'll wait for a PC port or they can go fuck themselves
The quicker these 3 unfunny characters die, the better.
So my japanese is good enough to play eroge right now. Is there a rec chart with kamige eroge that includes japanese only titles?
>>14447891
>unfunny
I think they're pretty funny
>>14447918
Nothing more than a nuisance that wastes lines in my eyes, should have died in the previous chapter
>>14447926
I like the depth(?) and attention given to the antagonists, even if they're pretty much being made out to be team Rocket.
Like, I appreciate the mook in the middle mentioning how he was just a farmer, that kind of tiny detail adds a lot (however cliche it may seem).
>>14447910
If you want to play meme games, just pick a meme game to play. Otherwise just find something you find interesting.
>>14447910
>>14447941
I just want something like Majikoi where I can fuck everyone tincluding all side characters to be honest.
>>14447945
Go masturbate to some nukige
>>14447927
>I like the depth(?) and attention given to the antagonists,
As do I. Problem is that I simply don't like Misuka's and Damone's personality, they are quite frankly annoying and their bad jokes do not help the situation. I'd prefer if they gave this attention to the proper antagonists rather than these three
I wish they were team rocket, at least they'd be able to crack a funny joke or two.
>>14447960
Nukige are complete trash and are not even worth the smalles amount of seed. There should be more eroge like Majikoi out there but it wouldn't be the first time that I was dissapointed after I learned japanese and went trough the libraries of untranslated goods.
>>14447981
I hate to break it to you but Majikoi is practically nukige level in terms of both writing and overall quality, if you're going to turn your nose up at something be sure not to do so with a mouth full of shit
>>14447984
It's not like I'm new to the buisness. You're completely wrong on both ends, especially quality.
>>14447910
Just read Subahibi and drop the whole medium after it.
>>14447994
Whoa we got an expert here fellas. Why bother soliciting advice if you won't take any and are so sure of your superior knowledge
Is there any way to make the font in Custom Maid 3D 2 bigger?
>>14448344
Buy a bigger monitor.
>>14447994
>I have read many translated eroge!
>therefore I know all about eroge
Being an expert on Greek history doesn't give you the knowledge to argue on which ancient civilization was the most influential .
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=53875117
>フェ○りんぴっく！というイカしたエロゲがあったのですが･･･
Does anyone know which game he was talking about?
>>14447994
>especially quality.
Read Anekouji for Takahiro's "quality", I'm sure you will like it.
I wish I'm stupid enough to have read only a few translated cheap crappy nukiges and then make broad sweeping statements about the qualities of all nukiges.
>>14448615
It might be a stupid statement but also forgivable considering ~90% of all nukige are bargain bin crap.
I wonder if there's even a decent translated nukige.
>>14448691
>translated
I don't see how that's relevant
Furthermore, 90% of anything is crap. Nukige aren't special.
Could you please fuck off to >>>/vg/ or VNTS with discussions of translations? This is not right thread for this stuff.
>>14448726
There was LITERALLY two posts about it, don't get your panties in a twist
The tonakoi fandisc is really nice, It's been awhile since I played the main game, so revisiting these memories is heartwarming, I've been smiling non-stop for like an hour. I don't know if it's objectively good or anything but on a personal level I'm glad I gave it a try. In any case I've certainly come to appreciate alcot's art here, the sprites, expressions and just style is really nice, above average I think.
Also, I laughed out loud while watching the opining movie when the male friend got literally 1/2 a second of screentime before being shoved off.
>>14449834
Im actually going through the base game and so far have been having a blast. Its honestly been keeping my attention while other moege have put me to sleep. Hell, even the male friend is refreshing.
Megu route never.
>>14449892
>Megu route never.
Megu route in fandisc!
Yeah, Tonakoi has really stuck out to me (Retrospectively) as being really engaging. I've played many moege but not many caught my attention so much. I think it's due in large part to the rapid pacing, it goes over in 1 hour what takes other VNs 10, and is funny/entertaining the whole time. My #1 complaint with VNs is their almost universally bad pacing and bloated scripts, but Tonakoi completely sidesteps that problem. Good VN.
>>14449925
>I think it's due in large part to the rapid pacing
Yah thats probably it, events take place pretty quickly without skimping out on developing the characters. They give backstories for some of the characters and their motivations for being athletes which you the character also played a part in.
>>14449834
I also liked it, it's a good FD.
Also, to be really honest, Ryouka's femdom scenes gave me a raging boner. Ayaka deserved a scene too.
I dislike Rina so much for some reason, though.
>>14450049
Whaat? Rina is so lovely. She smells like candy, she has gorgeous red hair, a 肉付き body... man, she's perfect. So sweet and kind... reading the scenes with her in the FD has made me happier than I have been in weeks... I won't deny crying a little bit, even. Rina is perfect.
>>14450055Her wanting to go back to her home, and especially her constant poking at MC not being "good enough" as a man was annoying, I remember a similar thing in the original Tonakoi and I had this feeling that she didn't really like the MC romantically throughout her entire route.But it's just me I guess. It happens sometimes with childhood friends.
>>14450118
Also I should clarify that I mean it in comparison to Nagisa and Ryouka.
>>14450118
Huh?I'm reading it right now, 1) the not good enough as a man thing was just her trying to avoid telling his imouto that's he's a master of sex, when they're alone she talks about how he's great and she can't keep up; 2) as far as I remember she's the one who wanted to go there in the first place and is really happy there, the only time she said she wanted to go home was as a joke after he kept poking her in the but with his dick while they bathed together.. It seems to me that you just entirely misread her route, somehow.
>>14450128
>the only time she said she wanted to go home
Let's talk when you finish her route.
>>14450135
Even if that change, the "not good enough as a man thing" won't, so I don't really understand what went wrong there. We will see.
>>14450138
>>14450213
Nothing too wrong about those bits as far as I can tell.
>>14450222
Not really, but you said it was an excuse to avoid telling his imouto about the sex, and I'm just showing you it was a real thing.
>>14450231
I thought you were referring to pic related, which was indeed the excuse towards the imouto.
As for your picture,Rina's whole route is about maturing as an individual so it's only natural that the MC would be recognizing his flaws, he Rina has to flaw her flaws to. In the fandisc in particular, all of that has been resolved and I've seen 0 dissatisfaction towards MC's manliness or what have you. I also don't think it's especially reasonable to get dislike Rina for having a route that actually deals maturing a bit.
It's not like I'm trying to defend Rina as my ultimate waifu and strike down all those who dislike her, I just disagree with were you're coming from.
>>14450242
>In the fandisc in particular, all of that has been resolved and I've seen 0 dissatisfaction towards MC's manliness or what have you.
But the screenshots I posted were from the fandisc itself, near the end. Nothing was resolved. The end was pretty abrupt, too. But it's a FD, it's not like I'm upset about it.
>I also don't think it's especially reasonable to get dislike Rina for having a route that actually deals maturing a bit.
I didn't say that was my reason for disliking her. I originally said "I dislike her for some reason", I just wanted to mention some things that rubbed me off the wrong way in the fandisc, but either way I would dislike her anyway, it's her general attitude. Which is weird because I tend to like straight-forward heroines like her. I don't know, I'm not in the mood to discuss over your waifu anyway because I'm in the process of being annoyed by the lack of substance of Koikata right now. I sure as fuck hope Yukie's route is decent at least, fuck. Anyway I just responded with my impressions, if you disagree that's fine. I admit she's fun and I like her 肉付き too.
>>14450268
Fair enough. Through dick, unity.
>>14448691
Actually all VNs are literary garbage, material for porn/waifu addicts or both. One-two exceptions, maybe (Muramasa, not sure about what else).
>>14437008
>meaningful fantasy world (like say Aiyoku no Eustia).
Maybe if you're 15 and it's your first ever fantasy novel. Eustia is cliched as fuck and inferior to even mid-tier English-language fantasy stock. I have no clue how it came to be so respected. Maybe because most people who read VNs don't read anything else?
>>14450603
Why are you even here?
>>14450603
You're trying way to hard to be edgy. Eustia is pretty good fantasy wise and definitely above average.
>>14450603
I have read Malazan, ASoIaF (well before the TV series was a thing), most of Hobb stuff, etc... and I still consider Eustia above average
I mean the writers aren't Gene Wolfe but it sure is more entertaining than the average fantasy stuff
Anyone looking forward for 珊海王の円環?
>>14451088
Not that interested in the idea of 6 protagonists and Eushully's last release was weak. I'll wait for comments from people who play it before I try it myself
>>14451088
I stopped caring about Eushully after I realized how much better Alicesoft is.
>>14451088
I'll play it but decided to not hype up myself this time. Doesn't look like something that could live up to IM/Genrin in terms of story or Kamidori in terms of gameplay.
>>14451137
Pretty much this. Having 6 protag is definitely not my thing, but if reviews are actually good I might try after that.
>>14447943
Will there ever be another 2009?
>>14451088
Definitely. From what I hear each faction will have different flavored routes so that'll be interesting.
>>14451088
Eushully has a lot of problems I doubt will be fixed in it. The whole gimmick of 6 protagonists makes me think they'll all end up half-assed, or one of them is going to be decent while the others will be garbage. Or maybe not.
Considering they've had the problem of making side characters and plots more interesting than the main ones (mostly due to how completely uninteresting the main girls and story has been) maybe this is a good thing.
>>14447943
No 2014?
>>14451137
Have you ever played kuutei senki? They didn't do that badly with four protagonists. Though this time it looked like instead of different interactions vs a bunch of non protagonists your choosen protagonist will actually interact with the other protagonists so we'll see how well they can do this.
>>14451226
2016 if all the games actually come out and don't get delayed (unlikely).
I need some imoutos. Who are the best imoutos?
>Maya wins sukisuki poll against the 5 actual heroines
I've only played the trial but damn I'm glad everyone has good taste. Her being more interesting than any of the heroines and not having a route is part of why I stopped giving a shit. Fandisk when?
>>14451417
Ayano from lovesick puppies and Megumi from tonakoi
>>14451417
野々宮藍
>>14451417
藤堂加奈
>>14451417
>>14451457
Never played it but #2 looks best.
>>14451417
友永遥香
>>14451417
