https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/announcement-on-additional-beta-keys/99918
Thank you, anon-kun.
>>14311087
Meh, not a teen anymore so RO doesn't look that interesting to me anymore.
Played this game and RO for the first time at approximately the same time and this one is more engaging because it's not just point and click. But it's waaaay too linear.
>>14311145
>le epic only teen play korean mmo meme
Did I sound just like you now?
>>14311170
No?
>>14311087
Last time it said region blablabla no code, didn't expect that from NL.
I don't have a facebook whatafuck are those shitters even remotely serious
This is for the new latin america/brazilian server. Also not /jp/ related
>>14311145
There are anime girls.
>>14311216
MMOs are projected /jp/ heritage.
>>14311225
Not the Korean ones despite you trying to talk about them every time in "which mmo are you playing /jp/?" threads.
>>14311252
Just go away if you don't like it, they have always been allowed here and always will be.
>>14311260
It would be better if you would go away back to warosu or whatever and complain about crossies and generals
>>14311366
Can you please stop shitpost? Report, hide, go away, no bitch plesae.
>>14311388sage
Evil bump.
hi i play this game too
Is this game even worth playing?
>>14315484
So far it is.
Very nice system of class progression. Fighting is really fun and doesn't feel repetitive.
Linear as fuck though, but that might still improve
>>14315513
What's there to do besides fight?
i can't play this from japan...
>>14315683
There's item crafting, resource gathering, lots of quests, exploration. It's comparable (a little) to mabinogi
>>14315484
There are miniskirts, pantsu shots and probably slut roleplayings in a world where you can have fun grinding mindlessly.
Tomorrow's the big day! Good luck, all!
>>14315888
>It's comparable (a little) to mabinogi
Don't lie. I'm playing Mabi right now and the game doesn't seem remotely close to it.
Can you make stuff without being 6th rank classes? Because even looking through the character builder to be an alchemist seems like it's going to take a while. Provided, it took a while in RO (technically in Mabinogi) too.
How do you gather stuff. Is it boring?
>>14315895
I hate all those things. I want to make cute, pure girls with long shirts and frilly clothes and small boobs.
>>14317029
>I want to make cute, pure girls with long shirts and frilly clothes and small boobs.
there's more of this than sluts
>>14317029
Crafting is literally making scrolls of skills with Pardoner.
Everything else sucks.
>>14311087
Who got keys?
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/the-first-batch-of-additional-beta-key-distribution/106367
what's the song played in crystal mines
>>14321366
burning groove
>>14319585
Lucky me.
>>14319585
I'm in, I hope I can find cute /jp/sies to play with!
>>14322774
Who male-character here?
>>14321366
There's about 5 or 6. Most of them have Symphonix, the theoretical artist, in the titles of the OST, if you're just looking at the one that came with the beta.
Best song coming through
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65NvKqOhyFU
>>14322832
Male Cleric c1>Priest c1 with LLoyd Irving hair here.
I am behind the leveling wave because the game is rather boring with its anti party design right now.
>>14319585
I just got in.
Where can I find all the cute little girls from /jp/?
KYNZ8-T2BIV-M6GZ4Have fun
>>14323139
>anti-party design
>Cleric
It's like...the only type of character that favors it.
What base class should you be. What base class should you not be? Is there a limit to making characters?
The game is completely ridiculously unbalanced and is in such an early state that most of what you learn will be pointless, know that going in. Mage and Archer both have infinites atm too.
>>14323586
Thanks senpai
>>14323792
What do you mean infinites? Is this a fighting game?
>>14323853
Fuck, I've already received a key actually. Should have checked my mail first (´･ω･`)
XQA6J-0YRDZ-BJ0GF
>>14323873
Thank you very much! ^_^
Tree of Frilly!
Which server should I join?
>>14324786
Nevermind this. I see /vg/ is on the G- one, so I'll take the Z- one
>>14325290
wanna play together or sumfin
>>14325298
please respond
>>14325427
No.
>>14325448
okay
>>14325456
nice reaction image there /a/niki!
:^)
>>14325298
How do people find people on this? My character is "Millions", apparently. I'll play with you, but try not to meme around me.
500 error. So is this actually fun?
>>14325695
you can't just hurt my feelings then decide you want to play with me like that
forget it! i don't want to play with you anymore!
>>14325802
Define fun
>>14325947
Sure. Does it having housing, meaningful crafting, good non-instanced dungeons/raids, how indepth is dress up, how indepth are emotes, how long does it take to level(I'd prefer it eat up a little time).
>>14325991
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>14325991
Go play Mabinogi instead.
Also,
-Not that I know of
-Possibly
-I don't know but I don't think anything has this
-Not very
-I don't know what an indepth emote is
-Not very at the start at least
Aside from that, the closeup character art really bothers me. Almost everyone has one eye that looks like it's falling off their head.
Help.
do ALL the npcs need to have huge cleavage, guys included?
>>14327276
yeah
I never thought I would enjoy being a healing slut, Priest rapes so good when you know what to get.
>Shrine Maiden will never be a class
Fuck me
Grinding forever aside, what's the exact point of the game?
>>14321366
The gamefiles have a complete OST folder with artist tags and such.
>>14323722
I mean the game in general. I am that class combination and still can solo everything no problem for a very long time.
>>14328190
MMORPGs don't have "points"
I miss the RO card system
>>14328354
Why? Most cards were shit and if you want nice art on cards, ToS has that.
Games should just accept Diablo 2 had the best item slot system and copy that always.
>>14328365
Because of the variety as well as distribution of the good cards, you could find cards that were the shit even for max lvl with 20
>>14328365
>1 weapon and 1 armor piece item slot system without needing to swap around or do more complex moves than equip
nah
>>14328530
>1 weapon and 1 armor piece item slot system without needing to swap around or do more complex moves than equip
What are you talking about? Not D2 or RO.
>>14328567
Clearly I'm talking about a more in-depth and honest version of Diablo 2 experience rather than one made up on the fly to make it look any better than Ragnarok 1 with the card system and different effects in play from the items themselves rather than just pregenerated bullcrap.
>>14328576
*generated
>>14328576
So basically, you never played Diablo 2.
>>14328596
You mean the game where I just throw Frozen Orbs and Frost Novas?
Yeah, I have. Very deep inventory experience dude.
>>14328746
So because all you do is cast Storm Gusts, I guess RO's item system isn't any good either, right?
>>14328810
Nah.
At least in Ragnarok we have Marc cards etc. You don't just abuse potions to heal it off, or cast SGs for that matter.
>>14328746
>Frozen Orbs and Frost Novas
Blizzards were the meta
>>14330018
That's even less buttons than trielement.
What's the best of the 4 basic classes?
What's the best class of any classes?
>>14333095
swordmaster
highlander
>>14333095
Depends on what you want exactly.
Hoplite is top MvP class outside KR but is less reliable for actual farming/PvP than Highlanders and Corsairs.
Fencer is the current top in KR.
>>14333104
>>14333123
Also Rodelero is the most underrated class.
>>14333153
I kinda wanted to try it. I took Highlander though, so shield stuff would be useless.
>>14333786
The thing is, the original branching class(Peltasa) is a defensive one, so most people assume Rodelero is the defensive branch when in reality it's the Attack & literal combo class of Swordman, you stick to Peltasa for the tanking.
Rodelero has a billion moves that do all kinds of shit in PvP.
So far
Solo Tier:
Swordmaster
Can't do things alone:
Archer
Cleric
Can't do things:
Wizard
>>14334551
That's not the problem. Most of their moves are shield moves, I can't use shield moves with a two-handed sword.
>>14334578
Boring tier:
Sword
Str cleric
AFK tier:
Archer
Needed tier:
Spr/int cleric
Jealous of what everyone else can do tier:
Wizard
>>14334551
I'm playing Peltasa and I'm loving my 4x damage for counter skills
>>14334595
High Guard is very good.
>>14334593
>>14334578
Do you mean wizard as in pure or wizard sub classes? Because the subclasses seem good. So good that first circle of wizard seems like a waste.
Attributes, those sub skill things, are they shared between classes or are they only active when you're the class the attribute came from?
>>14334920
Dude, if you can get through the suffering and get wiz3 it really pays off later. I did a wiz3>ele3 and I can beat anyone in a duel, archers can't even hit me a single time. Melee classes still give me a bit of trouble though.
>>14335192
What would you even do with wiz 3? The skills are all so shit and not worth putting points into. Do you just sleep people in duels and then hit them repeatedly?
>>14326281
>>14317029
I dropped ToS. The art is cute, but it really does not stack up to Mabi. You can't even do dress up. The problem with Mabi is it's old, there's nothing to do because there's no "endgame" just events and stuff and people are gone, Mabi certainly has a lot of quirks, and the duping thing fucked up the economy.
There's also the fact that ToS server stability is horrible, much of the quest text is completely broken, there are graphical errors, and it's hard to find people to play with. Most MMOs would consider this an alpha, not a beta.
Classes are also pretty badly balanced. Melee had strong AoE, and damage that seems to be 2-4 times as much as ranged, which more than makes up for having to dodge a little more AOE.
I might try again next beta if they fix some stuff, and I can find people to play with.
>>14335843
>there's nothing to do because there's no "endgame"
There's no such thing as "endgame."
>>14335843
Also this is a beta, not the released version. Beta does not mean "about to be released, so let's everyone start playing". It means "game is still being fixed, plz help us test it".
A large amount of quest text is broken though, probably because of their bad idea towards getting it translated.
>>14335864
>"game is still being fixed, plz help us test it".
It usually means looking for bugs, not everyone has the exact same problems because no one even bothered to test this shit. Some of the stuff is alpha tier problems.
>>14335857
Not in mabi, no.
>>14335938
Not in anywhere. There's no such thing as "something to do after I've done everything." They can add more things to do, but that makes them part of the game, not end game. You'll just view them as something to grind for a whiel until you've beaten it.
Think about a "sandbox" game, like GTA or something, after you've done all the storyline missions. What do you do? Just fuck around until you get bored of the game.
>because no one even bothered to test this shit.
That's the beta testers' job because they do it for free.
>>14335780
Sleep>quickcast>magic missile.
Both quickcast and sleep are extremely good skills, look up quickcast's attribute later.
>>14336162
But sleep only affects one target right? Is it useful at all outside of PVP?
>>14336282
AoE, with 3 secs of charge
>>14336162
but a lot of monsters are immune or resistent to sleep
>>14336282
>>14336597
Sleep is nearly useless in pve situations, I got it for the sole purpose of beating people up.
Quickcast is pretty useful in all kinds of situations though. Cuts half of the cast time and raises matk by 50%. Can't go wrong with that in an elementalist build.
Alright, which of your fuckers got my 'hakurei' and 'kirisame' team name?
>>14336754
very original, buttwad
Nice game they got here
>>14336754
I bet you fucker took my Hijiri
>>14338036
>two weeks ago
>running around in gabija-klaipeda
>see a byakuren hijiri
>archer
why
Isn't this game....Korean?
>>14340457
It's made by Koreans, just like Anime. However, this isn't Japanese /v/, so quit shitposting or I'll make a thread entirely about non Japanese Touhou fanart. .
>>14340509
I wish our name would go back to "/jp/ - Japan General" so retards like you finally shut up.
>>14340597
Back when we had plenty of MMO threads you mean?
>>14340597
Then we get /int/ shit and disgusting sex tourists despite /int/ existing.
>>14340457
corea bad!! nippon banzai xD
What fucking server are you faggots on?
>>14341437
stfu go back to /vg/
>>14341437
Gabija.
How long until they delete megaphones from the game?
>>14340457
Everything you think is Japanese is actually made by Koreans or Chinese
No jaypee to run dungeons with
How do I get money? People seem to already have hundreds of thousands if not millions. What do I need to be doing besides selling to players who already have money?
>>14343203
I abused people marketing shit under vendor value, selling it off again.
Not that I'm rich myself since people that are in the level hundred+ get items worth allot to vendor or selling off to people again.
Why do all the dungeons in this game have untz untz gay club music?
>>14343877
idk but ro music is better desu
tos is full of boring orchestras and german trance gay bar music. they tried too hard and now none of the music has any personality
Can i have some screenshots that can show me the nice level of game design ?
>>14344822
Some of the music is okay, its just the untz for me. Even then, it's not just the untz, it's that it sometimes has vocals on top too.
This song annoyed me in particular though, along with whichever one goes "the DJ the DJ"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLZmMmV651A
>>14344900
I don't think there's much screenshots can show. Most of the visual stuff is kind of eh. The characters are cute, but some NPCs have abnormally large hands, and you can't rotate the camera so you can't get a good look at enemies and backgrounds. Everyone's portraits have weird faces with eyes that are falling off their heads or something.
The game itself is kind of a theme park with you going from leveling spot to leveling spot and doing a few quests too. Of course there's an "epic" YOU ARE THE SAVIOR OF ALL MANKIND main plot too. Also every set of quests has to have like 2-4 bosses that come out and do shit like put circles on the ground, telegraph their attacks for 10 seconds before they do them, and shoot danmaku for some reason. It gets tiring really, because they all have to have big cinematic introductions. "Gee, I wonder what will happen when I pull this lever/gather this product/try to seal this portal/turn this handle/steal these babies"(the quest themselves are at least sort of interesting in that they aren't just "get me 10 bear butts" and also every bear has a butt when you do have to gather them. You have to run around too much for them though.)
There are some things that screenshots won't show though, like how they have NPCs you can wander around and find that give you sidequests, and hidden treasure chests you can find(even though they're all in the same locations and give the same items to everyone.) Basically they tried but it's probably all on wikis by now.
The battle system is nice though. It has knockback, knockdown, you can dodge ranged attacks by moving, and you can charge some attacks of more damage or just to manipulate their shape or targeted area or something.
Also the game is buggy and unfinished. And by unfinished, I mean needs another year of work to be ready for release. But then, I don't know how far along KR is in development.
But as it is, it's better than the average MMORPG, just it's not as fun to grind in for some reason. It's not UNFUN. It's just not like how I could grind in RO because I really, really liked killing things. The classes are fun though, but they need work and balance. They also need something to do besides go from leveling area to leveling area.
>>14336754
Reporting in.
Haven't really played lately though because the game is a broken piece of shit and not very fun at all after some time.
>>14311087
Why would one make an MMORPG and then not have the F keys be hotkeys? Why do F keys open the menu? That is so disorientating. Why would keyboard controls not use WASD but mouse ones do? Why would you fix the screen but then put the hotkey bar at the bottom center when you do a lot of running downwards? why not at the top left or bottom left, out of the way? Why would you make areas that are accessed by gates but not make those gates clickable? Why do you run near them, and not instantly stop, but are able to continue away before suddenly loading the next map?
>>14345136
Also what's with the word filter? They can't possibly think this is a kid appropriate game, but this seems a bit excessivly detailed a list.
http://pastebin.com/EQBxvKgQ
Then you have songs like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HKdNPLkzj4&#t=125
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMPJxaqJlWM
>>14345136
I can farm better with my skills above Z and bunny hop triple auto attack each mob.
>>14346825
autism
>>14346854
I agree F keys are autism.
Tree of Savior gay bars when?
i want to be kissed before beta ends....
>>14346945
When ZUN bar starts one.
>>14343203
Monsters will eventually start dropping recipes that vendor for a bunch on their own.
>>14346955
How do you even get the kiss emote?
>>14347667
It's either the greeting or thank one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sayYpOhqJXg
Trailer!
mfw using Psychic Pressure on fireballs
'no'
Is having people "like" your character the future of MMORPGs?
>>14352351
What a shitty future.
>>14347893
This is a fun looking single player game.
When you see it
>>14345017
This. hopefully next beta will at least have guilds so I will have someone to play with instead of running around randomly grinding things.
>>14345005
I think part of the unfun of grinding comes from the fact that you have to press the auto attack button. It's not really even as fun as button mashing. It's not a relaxing thing you can do for hours, nor is it as engaging or rewarding as mabi's rock/paper/scissors.
>>14343628
I did this. Lots of people for some reason sell stuff below vendor. If it's not something that will sell quickly, just vendor it so you can use the cash now to buy upgrades.
>>14353294
>I think part of the unfun of grinding comes from the fact that you have to press the auto attack button.
I play with them mouse, because I am not a faggot. You just have to click once. Although they didn't think to let you bind offhand attack to right click. Even so RO was kinda hit hotkey and click all the time, and you should be using skills over auto attack anyway.
Also
>part of the unfun of grinding
>>14345005
>It's not UNFUN.
I didn't say the grinding was unfun, I said it was not unfun, just not as fun as RO. I honestly believe it's the music myself. That and how the enemies do like 50 hits and take out half your HP if you aren't an ultra tank. Cooldowns on potions was a mistake. Why do games even copy that? Just make a potion poison system like Mabi if you want to force healers.
In any case, I'll probably be replacing the music in this game with various other tracks.
Functional guilds and parties would make this game a lot more fun, so I have some hope.
>>14353274
Shoulder boobs?
>>14353274
creepy as heck dude
>>14353384
Pretty sure it's the backwards head bug.
Tell me this game is shit so I can stop feeling bad about not being able to play.
>>14353384
>>14353411
This is what the front looks like.
>>14353421
It's not RO, so you can keep playing RO. Also the game isn't really in a state you'd want to play. You'll have a better time in open beta. Probably.
>>14353421
it's a shitty korean quest-based mmo with a really high level cap
>>14353488
It's not really quests based. The quests just give you exp cards you can use to skip grinding, and boring background story. The quests don't really do much of anything in and of themselves.
>>14353449
Is there a ballpark guess for when open beta would be?
>>14353522
Korea's is next month, so maybe not too long? Probably January or something.
>>14353421
it's shit
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/this-game-is-nothing-new-and-not-much-good/110900
>>14355570
>forum
Everything I've seen on that forum is among the most retarded things I've ever read.
That said, the game IS a theme park, and the maps are shitty just like RO maps with unnecessary twists and turns, and it is just a linear path of ever higher level recommended maps rather than being shaped like some sort of world or country.
>>14355612
>At the moment the auction house is busted, which has been a wonderful thing. In its place a flea market has populated the town squares, something I haven't seen in an MMO in a very long time.
This is nice though, although most of what I've seen is not shops, but players buying mats for slightly above shop prices, so these markets might remain.
All in all, they had a bunch of great class ideas but they need to stick them into a better MMORPG.
Remove potion cooldown
enjoying your demon prison grind?
have you reached c6 yet?
>>14358351
Earlier tonight. I grinded at the bee farm instead though
It was a long journey
>>14358354
what class did you level with? pure suffering here with archer, ranger and fletcher. going to pop all cards soon, then going for reiter and finally shelfing archer.
>>14358431
Archer -> wugu -> reiter, so I understand. It was a pretty boring combo but it did have decent synergy.
I can see myself doing it again for hackapell or the new musket class. Hopefully they'll have gotten some tweaks by then.
I'm enjoying playing Priest battle Paladin, I can smite one shot mobs with my fist crits, and spam that all day since I'm a a walking hp/sp pot.
Why is this game so boring? Why is solo play encouraged in an MMO?
>>14368329
It's not encouraged, it's just people who play it are introverts who don't want to be around kids and memesters. Also english server communities tend to be shitty anyway.
>>14368403
Will you play on the Japanese servers once they go up?
The jp community on FFXIV was pretty fun even though the timezones were far apart.
>>14369384
No, I'm just going to play on the English server soloish when it gets started, with Japanese voices so I can pretend this is actually a Japanese game. .
Honestly, if this game is going to be a grinding game, you need to not level up as fast, and have more overlap of what is grindable, so you can play with friends more easily.
>>14369545
>you need to not level up as fast
I like how everyone on the forums is complaining the grinding is too slow
>>14369733
They haven't gotten to later levels.
I'm fine with grinding but the complete lack of areas to grind in is the problem.
Bosses crash you
Players can enable world PvP for themselves and ruin cities
that bug where you float into the sky is still there
Will this game keep gaining errors until it collapses?
>>14372648
Amazing how their fixes just break more stuff
>>14374423
Why aren't they fixing something that's at least the latest version? They can't care about whether it's untranslated, considering there are still lots of untranslated quests.
>>14374423
You mean they actually fixed something? Because there's a goddamn heap of shit from the last iCBT that got reported and was never fixed.
>>14374713
The fixed the ipf error or whatever that was making people dc.
>>14355612
> it is just a linear path of ever higher level recommended maps rather than being shaped like some sort of world or country.
's a running problem with MMOs these days. devs have it in their head that nobody will play their game except idiots who will cry if they go onto the wrong map and get killed. so instead of something laid out like pre-renewal RO(y'know, mobs of varying levels scattered about a more-or-less understandable worldmap) you get a piece of string. no decisionmaking, only following the path you're told to, because you're expected to be too stupid to make decisions. it's a wonder the class progression offers choices, given the dev climate these days. online games that aren't made for morons are a dying breed.
>>14358154
what, and let people heal when they need to? but anon, that would be OVERPOWERED! you don't want something OVERPOWERED, do you? :^)
long and short of it is that even by the first korean beta they were already compromising their original ideas to cater to the lowest common denominator. my hopes for ToS are fading fast; it's a shame, because it's really nice to look at and nostalgic looking and all, but most everything I looked forward to is fading before my eyes and I haven't even gotten to play it because fuck steam.
Two week extension and double XP from now on just announced
2X exp too
>>14375456
You're exaggerating too much. There are various optional maps you can go to and do stuff like optional quests or grinding. My complaint is mostly that the world is shaped like a pole you climb rather than like any sort of natural thing.
But then it is Tree of savior, maybe it's supposed to be like climbing a tree.
>>14375585
Double exp from now on? I hope that means only for the rest of the beta.
>>14375600
This is what I mean http://www.tosbase.com/game/world-map/
There's also a lack of towns. I like how RO had so many cities.
>>14375601
Well yeah. The release exp rate is a mystery.
>>14375650
I thought they said the current exp rate was 3x? It would be simple to find the 1x rate. I don't have a clue though since I can't get a key.
>>14375671
It's 3x the rate of the last beta as far as I've heard, not 3x the normal game rate.
Hi /jp/! What do you think of my build?
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/3obo35gwah/
>>14375716
Actually I got rid of Lethargy and just put the points in Energy Bolt
>>14375716
Reflect shield doesn't do shit but I guess it's helpful at the start. Earthquake, while being an AoE, is better used to know things down and you can just to put points in lethargy and energy bolt instead and just have 1 point in earthquake.
Flare is shitty and you should get enchant fire instead. If you keep flare, you should know that the fireball flame debuff makes the cooldown go up to 23 seconds from 15 seconds. Unacceptable. Flare has an even longer cooldown still.
>>14375860
What exactly does enchant fire do? I was told it's not super useful. Flare I really only got for an extra aoe when I get Linker. But I'm interested in what exactly Enchant Fire does.
>>14375968
It just increases your damage a little by making you gain additional fire property to your attacks. At 5 points, it's just 15 more damage points more if something's weak to fire, less if it's strong. Honestly, I don't know why people hate firewall. It does both damage and the same kind of buff you could get from 10 points in enchant fire. (via the attribute)
Enchant fire also has an attribute that makes enemies less resistant to fire, so you'll do even higher small amounts of damage.
Flare is only going to be used when something's on fire, which means having a long fireball cooldown. Although it might count when they're inside the other fire DoT attacks. But the point is, it's not something you can use freely. And it has a huge cooldown.
>>14376060
Hmm, I suppose I'll be going over the Pyro section of my build a lot. Would you say 5/10 fireball, 10/10 flame wall, 5/10 flare, 5/10 flame ground, and 5/5 flame spire would be good enough?
>>14376238
Good enough, but fireball is a really good skill and should be maxed. Flame ground is also really good, but unlike fireball, it doesn't hit flying things. Also you can't move it around like you can with fireball. Fireball is basically your main killing move though, so it should be maxed. I would say just take the points out of firewall after all, and if you don't like flare, buy a skill reset with the icoins you get every day. When I said I thought firewall wasn't useless, I didn't mean it's better than anything either. Flame ground, fireball, and flame spire are the key skills.
>>14376286
>Would you say 5/10 fireball, 10/10 flame wall, 5/10 flare, 5/10 flame ground, and 5/5 flame spire
10/10 fireball, 5/10 flare, 10/10 flame ground, and 5/5 flame spire to be clear, and just see if flare is good enough.
Keep this in mind too, since flame ground doesn't hit flying things, even if flare works with it, it won't work on them because they aren't being hit by it, so you'll need to rely on fireball's attribute for that.
>>14376286
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/yv3uv0dv8l/
I'm thinking if anything I'll go back and drop Earthquake for sleep. I kind of like having the extra safety net of Reflect Shield, even if it's not amazing.
>>14376320
I don't know about sleep because it seems not so good unless you're using it in PVP. A single target sleeping for a while is basically nothing but lethargy isn't much better even if it can be used on bosses.(sleep doesn't work on bosses). It'll probably make your reflect shield go a longer way though. Keep at the least 1 point in earthquake though. You gotta make it to pyro first.
This is outdate but you'll be able to do stuff similar to this when you get linker. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok2RyVFsvH4
Is CC basically useless? With SP recovery so slow, it seems like CC just makes killing things slower with more downtime.
>>14376348
Are you that guy who wants to be a linker asking if crowd control is useless?
>>14376359
No, I'm just asking in general. The only time I use CC is when it's a short CC linked to a damage ability.
>>14376372
Well I don't know then. Linkers are pretty good. Earthquake is what you mentioned, fast, damaging, and CC. Swap is pretty good when you need to reposition things. Outside of those, I don't know too much about crowd control except that Chronomancer seems lame. I don't know a thing about non mage classes CC ability, but they're probably better off damaging things.
Any of you guys holding on to unused beta keys for any reason?
>>14384941
A beta key literally costs $1.03.
I stopped playing tos because its a time sink, cute game though.
>>14386212
It's a time sink without even dress up rewards.
>>14386212
Everything is a time sink.
>>14387974
ur a time sink
Supposedly crashing bug is fixed now.
