Visual Novel translation status
Amagami - 1st day patch Released for PS2/PSP, "1637/2308 original edition scenario scripts translated (74.8%)"
>AstralAir - prologue patch released, 60015/64880 (92.50%) lines translated
Ayakashi Gohan - ~93% Complete
Clover Day's - Common + 3 routes done, other routes + 348/711 KB and 74/722 KB translated
HaraKano - Patch with Common, Marina, Ayana, Ren and Kanna routes released.
Haruka Na Sora - Sora 11.29% translated, Kozue 23.73% translated
Harumade Kururu - 100% of the initial harem route + 25% common route translated
Hoka no Onna - 84.88% translated
Irotoridori no Sekai - 6523/50663 (13%) lines translated
Junketsu Megami-Sama - prologue patch released
Kiminozo - Common route translation complete, Haruka route 1st pass complete
Koiken Otome - 100% translated and edited, 92.38% QC, prologue patch released
Koiseyo Imouto Banchou - 9% (3796/42627) lines translated
Kurukuru Fanatic - 100% translated, UI + Wordwrapping done
Lovely Cation- 31.6% of lines completed
>Majikoi A-1 - Released
>Majikoi A-2 - Picked up
>Majo Koi Nikki - 6866/40394 (17.08%) lines translated
Mahou Tsukai no Yoru - Commie project actively in editing
Mahou Tsukai no Yoru - 2nd project with 2.2 scripts translated
Mahou Tsukai no Yoru - 3rd project released ch 1-5
Monster girl quest paradox - Being translated, new partial patch released
Muv Luv Total Eclipse - 25% translated
Oreimo Tsuzuku - All scripts translated, 212/268 through TLC+Editing, 154/268 scripts finalized
SakuSaku - 100% through TLC
Sanarara - Project resuming
Sukimazakura to Uso no Machi - 10,082 / 30,513 Lines (33.0%) translated, partial patch released
Tokyo Necro - 1010/39657 lines translated
>Tsui Yuri - 40% (2331/5872) lines translated
>Tsuki ni Yorisou Otome no Sahou - 9907/31248 (31%) translated
Witch's Garden - 47555/67201 (70.77%) lines translated, 3,426/67,201 (5.10%) edited, prologue patch released
Yosuga no Sora - Translation status is Common route 100%, Sora route 100%, Nao 100%, Kazuha 100%, Akira 89.73%, Motoka 32.17%, Common and Kazuha fully edited
Official work
MangaGamer
Higurashi Hou - Released chapter 3
Umineko - Ch 1-4 July 8th release
>Bokuten - 100% translated, 95% edited
>Da Capo 3 - 100% translated, 98% edited
Myth - in scripting
>Kuroinu - Being released as 3 seperate chapters, CH1 80% TL 21% edited
Supipara - Ch 1 in testing
Himawari - TL and editing finished, in scripting
>Negai no Kakera - 100% translated, 16% edited
Princess Evangile W Happiness - 50% translated, 22.2% edited
>Imouto Paradise 2 - 48% translated, 25% edited
Kyonyuu Fantasy - 100% TL+Edited, in scripting
>Fata morgana fan disc - 18% translated
JAST
Sonicomi - Golden Master
Sumeragi Ryoko - Beta, in preorder, script edit 20%
Django - Waiting on translation.
Flowers - Re-write/editing 40%, Beta 10%
Sweet Home - 100% translated, debugging script
Sumaga- Fully translated, in editing
Trample on Schatten- Translation 86%
Sekai/Denpa
>Mayoi Hitsuji no Kajuen - Released
>Grisaia trilogy - 2nd title Steam released, uncut still to come, 3rd 35% translated
Karakara - 6/27 release
>2236 A.D. - 70.18% translated
>Maitetsu - 13.09% translated
>Nenokami - 99.79% translated, Indiegogo finished
>Koi to, Guitar to, Aoi Sora. - 100% translated
Kokonoe Kokoro - 100% translated, engine work
Creature to Koi Shiyo - 100% translated, engine work
WEE 3 - 97.15% translated
>Chrono Clock - 21.4%
Narcissu 3rd - TL+Editing done
Narcissu 0 - 89.23% translated
Tenshin Ranman - 29.99%
>Darekoi - 100% translated
Wagamama High Spec -Demo is 100% translated, 2016 release
>Hoshizora no Memoria - 16.96% translated
>Memory's Dogma - 54.53% translated
Fault Milestone 2 - Side Above released, GE still to come
Ley Line - picked up
Frontwing
Corona Blossom - IGG project started, Vol 1 7/29 release
Sharin no Kuni - Kickstarter planned
Visual Arts
Tomoyo After - Through Steam GL
Little Busters - Picked up
Harmonia - Through Steam GL
Rewrite+ - Picked up
Angel Beats - 50% translated
Degica
Hakuisei Aijou Izonshou - 7/7 release
Muv Luv - 7/14 release
Muv Luv Alternative - Winter release
Schwarzesmarken - Through Greenlight
Other
Zero Time Dilemma - Jun 28th release
Psycho-Pass: Mandatory Happiness - 9/13 release
Steins;Gate 0 - 2016 release
Root Letter - 2016 release
>ChuSingura46+1 - Trial released
Wish Tale of the Sixteenth Night - 100% translated + edited, in QC
Kyuuketsu Hime no Libra - Common + 50% of Mari route translated
Taisho Alice - Picked up
Love Sweets - Picked up
SubaHibi - Official release planned
Sora wo Aogite Kumo Takaku - Through Greenlight
Lucky Dog - Possible iOS released based on the ongoing text only fanTL
Work being done on a fanTL of Shin Koihime with hopes of getting it licensed
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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread
This thread will be delayed until either Sunday Night or Monday next week, because AX runs this upcoming Friday through Monday and there should be announcements through at least Sunday evening.
>>15452154
You're awesome with the most basic image stitching, you know that?
Did you know that, aside from a bundle, Haruka has been in the top 5 every week consecutively since launch?
Top 5 Ranking: http://pastebin.com/dt51BZ6M
Popularity Sort: http://pastebin.com/8X6CFcdv
Full Data Point List: http://pastebin.com/wkadtnkS
As always, this tracker is powered by anonymous like you, so post order numbers if you've got em'.
Has there been any word on how many announcements Sekai has yet aside from the one? I don't follow their twitter
>>15452690
They haven't said a number.
Summary of the AX schedule for this Weekend (times Pacific)
MangaGamer - 10:45pm Friday July 1st
Jast USA - 11:15pm Saturday July 2nd
Sekai Project - 8:00pm Sunday July 3rd
Sekai Project: Sayori - 9:15pm July 3rd
MangaGamer: Shigeo Hamashima - Q&A - 10:15pm Sunday July 3rd
MangaGamer: nbkz Q&A - 12:15pm Monday July 4th
Degica - Events/announcements at their booth, though no formal panel
Frontwing - At AX, no formal panel
Visual Arts - At AX, no formal panel
>>15452650
I couldn't give less of a fuck.
>>15452690
Their panel isn't marked 18+, so safely assume that they're announcing nothing of value or butchered titles of value. Who cares?
>>15453167
They have never had an 18+ panel, but have announced uncut releases at previous panels such as 2236 A.D. at Anime Central last month. All it means is they can't show explicit content directly (as well as perhaps some restrictions on stuff like language), as opposed to MangaGamer who can go and show explicit promotional material for their upcoming nukige in the middle of their panel.
They very well may announced some censored only releases, and I'd be surprise if they announced any sort of uncut release for Maitetsu which they have previously said would be addressed at AX. However, the fact that their panel isn't 18+ isn't something to draw conclusions from about upcoming announcements.
>>15453210
I'd mostly want to hear about the results of their survey. But I guess since they probably got ranked as bottom ranked, they would not bring it up,
>>15453210
The fact that they seem to be operating on JAST time for anything that isn't bought over fan-translations does put a damper on everything though.
Aside from the fact that they're also around pre-Kouryuu MG in terms of translations.
>>15453236
You guys complain too much. If you started learning Japanese by the time SP started to surface, you wouldn't need to wait for translations now. And you have no one to blame but yourself.
>>15452650
>Did you know that, aside from a bundle, Haruka has been in the top 5 every week consecutively since launch?
Actually yes. It's nice to see Haruka doing so well. I'm totally expecting for MG to announce another Alice Soft game on AX or Otakon.
KnS 2 continues to dominate the hard-copies rankings on MG site. Yurirei follows it.
I'm actually surprised.
>>15453245
I don't like it. Too much room for stupid misunderstandings and they go focus on scat titles "Because hey Euphoria and Haruka both have it and sold great. Scat is the future!"
Now if they just take it as a hint that people want story porn, it will be great.
>>15452154
>Da Capo 3 - 100%
Now that Kouryuu is free, I can see him crying tears of happiness
>>15453330
Until he does Platinum Partner and Dal Sengo.
And the moege horror restarts all over again.
>>15453348
>moege horror
Why? Is better than translation nukiges, chuni VN's, or similars... (kofKoUminekof)
>>15453418
There's nothing better than chuuni.
>>15453418
I would assume translating nakige is worst. Imagine having to cry your eyes out until the story is empty and meaningless to you.
>>15453442
Translating a nakige with the size of DC3...
>>15453418
>translation nukiges
I like nukiges mind you.
Ded scene.
>>15452157
>Da Capo 3 - 100% translated
Only 2 more...!
He did it. He finally did it!
>>15453263
>people want story porn
Story porn titles almost never sell well for MG. They already know that they don't sell well despite people claiming to want them.
>>15452650
>>15453245
Consider what's been released since Haruka (drama CDs, all ages that will mostly be bought on Steam, and super short mosaiced nukige), it's not much of an achievement to still be in the top 5.
>>15453714
You would think that the nukige crowd that makes up the majority of the sales would have gotten it within the first two months though.
>>15453802
Nukige have better long tail sales. Many people may have also been on the fence about it since it's not fully voiced and has alot of hardcore scenes. Not everyone wants gameplay in their porn either. The nukige drought likely caused people who would've normally passed on it to pick it up.
>>15453819
Everyone's buying it to get Rance.
>>15453822
With how he Rance crowd reacted, I doubt most of them bought into the marketing. And Rance isn't guaranteed anyway. MG could just as easily announce something else from Alicesoft. MG's fans like nukige and gameplay titles, so Haruka would've sold well regardless of the Rance hype.
>>15453829
I bought it to get Rance.
>>15453842
Buying a nukige to get a story game seems like a bad investment. I'm expecting the Alicesoft announcement to be at Otakon, so we'll see if you wasted your money.
>>15453842
I can finally get Rance because of you. Thanks, cool dude.
>>15453875
I enjoyed Haruka thoroughly, though. The thought that I paid money for it made me 100% it. I loved the bad ends.
>>15454030
Kyonyuu Fantasy will be a hit!
This Dovac? http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=208264768#post208264768 he's pretty rude
>>15454082
I think that's one of their PR guys, not dovac. I don't think it's rude, they've had problems because people taking screenshots of games they've patches and posted on Steam. That causes Sekai's games to get reported and could get Sekai in trouble with Valve. If people do such things with something like Maitetsu, that would be a big problem.
>>15454134
>If people do such things with something like Maitetsu
Can't wait to see that
>>15454030
But I like Rance and Kamidori and Bunny Black.
Also, Rance and BB are not that different.
>>15454142
It'll be a long wait with how long the translation is taking. Hopefully their announcement for how they intend to handle the 18+ content (my guess is they won't do it) at AX will be enough to tide you over.
>>15454082
It's Audi, their European PR guy.
>>15454148
It will be their deciding point. Best or worst company in one decision. And when you fall below Nutaku in ranking it is bad.
>>15454217
Best company just by doing one loli (not fully) animated moege? No.
Besides, Sekai already gave you loli by publishing NekoPara.
>>15454234
The characters in Nekopara didn't seem that young, the catgirls aged much faster than humans. And the one who looked like a loli was actually the oldest catgirl.
>>15454234
You are aware of what content is in Maitetsu? We are talking the low end of loli ages that all other companies in the market hasn't dared to touch yet.
MG could do 18+ version of Himawari, but they are too afraid. Jast censored their Shiny Days because they were afraid.
Sekai will either censor it and join the chicken pack, or they will go where no company has gone before.
Regardless, the company that beats their fear of imaginary problems is going to be best.
>>15454268
MG already released Sweet Sweat in Summer. The reason they won't do the old version the Himawari is that its outdated art wouldn't sell and Frontwing likely doesn't want to compete with a version that they won't get any money from.
>>15454268
>MG could do 18+ version of Himawari, but they are too afraid.
The remake they are localizing has no 18+ version and Frontwing would have no interest in creating one. It's not about MG in this case.
>>15454268
>MG could do 18+ version of Himawari, but they are too afraid.
No. The reason we're not doing 18+ Himawari is because the only release that was 18+ is the original doujin release and every subsequent release has been all ages because that's how the creators want it as far as I know.
Also this >>15454285
Before you say "but just patch in the original!" remember that the Vita version has completely different art and isn't even the same aspect ratio.
How heavy is the loli content in Maitetsu? There's no set in Exhentai for some reason.
>>15454299
You're cute Haro
>>15454278
Nobody says outdated art can't sell. It is just nonsense thrown around in discussions. It is said so much that the companies might even start to believe the lie. Just look at Clannad. It got WORSE reception when they updated the art. The only thing people like new art on is Higurashi because of ham hands. It has nothing to do with old art, and all to do with terrible art.
>>15454285
Why isn't there an 18+ version? It can only mean the game is so bad it is unsellable to adults and can only be sold to children. That or the original art version is good enough and they didn't need a remake.
>>15454299
>Before you say "but just patch in the original!" remember that the Vita version has completely different art and isn't even the same aspect ratio.
No, I say translate and sell the original. Else it is likely there will appear a fan patch for it and your sales plummet as people choose the uncensored version instead of buying an all-ages.
>>15454371
The old art sucked and the ero didn't even look good. And the story is actually pretty good, the creators just didn't want the shoehorned in porn. It's a story game.
>>15454258
First, her age has little to do with her being a loli.
Second, the imouto will get fucked too, everyone knows it.
>>15454427
People will just buy the all-ages andpiratethe original like they do with just about every Steam game that's not patchable.
>>15454371
It's usually the other way around, isn't it? 18+ versions are usually made because developers don't think their storyge will sell without it and All-ages versions are the ones that the producers are confident that they can sell the game without ero.
Look at minori, they tried to go all-ages with Suipipara and crashed and burned so hard that all their subsequent titles had incredibly nukige-esque ero CGs.
If Himawari tanks it will be because it's a story game, not because of anything to do with its almost non existent ero content in a full length VN.
>>15454466
Look at eden*, it was all-ages at first, but they later added ero because it's what their fanbase demanded.
>>15454473
Was it? The patch and the game came out on the same day, so it wasn't that far ahead in development, I guess.
>>15454473
I never play all-ages shit, but I hated eden*'s ero as it was non-canon. It was stupid and I skipped through most of it.
>>15454494
Welcome to the future of VN now they they want to capture the western market. Chrono Clock is the same way.
>>15454434
Wow, are you throwing opinions at me? The art is perfectly fine. The new art is only different, not better.
>>15454516
This one looks better. The old art looks like shit from AJTilley.
>>15454516
There's much worse and unfinished looking art than what I posted.
>>15454465
The original will never be in English
>>15454371
>Why isn't there an 18+ version? It can only mean the game is so bad it is unsellable to adults and can only be sold to children. That or the original art version is good enough and they didn't need a remake.
I can only hope you're trolling with this.
No art is worse than Aselia. And the remake will never be translated.
I am sad that I'll never played it, since I liked Seinarukana.
>>15454466
That is how it works in Japan yes. You make 18+ version because you are worried about sales. Then you have maxed your adult sales and saw people praised your story so you go all-ages to try and cash in more.
The problem is when you localize. If you bring over your new and fancy all-ages, the people don't have the adult version to choose from. So the large amount of initial fans that were in Japan, get screwed outside Japan.
It is also a new thing for Japan, but foreigners hate censorship. Mosaic and all-ages are the worst insults they can send our way. If they realized skipping adult games is equal to placing a "Please pirate my product" sign outside their store, perhaps they would think twice.
>>15454566
>You make 18+ version because you are worried about sales
Or because someone likes making ero games.
Crazy concept.
>>15453245
escalayer
>>15454524
I've played Umineko. I can handle any ugly art if the story is good.
Of course if Himawari has such a bad story it wouldn't be interesting to read, then the art would be a problem. But if that was the case, all-ages would be completely uninteresting.
So which is it. Is Himawari worth reading so old style art would grow on me, or is it not worth reading so new art is meaningless?
>>15454542
Pay Aroduc to do it.
>>15454615
No thanks, I like honorifics.
>>15453245
>another Alice Soft game
Oyako Rankan confirmed.
>>15454573
Would you rather have ``I worked on a famous game'' or ``I worked on a famous porn game'' in your resumee? See, that's what I thought. People make porn games because they're easy to sell and don't cost much to produce.
>>15454621
So?
>>15454624
>don't cost much to produce
That's not what minior says.
>>15454630
And he's a commiedev.
>>15454638
>>15454631
Okay, sure, there are exceptions, I'll freely admit it. But if you look at the majority of ero VNs (just download some random titles from VNDB), you will undoubtedly see that they have shitty art, unknown voice actors, bare minimum game engines, and medium length at maximum. In other words, the essence of cheap porn.
>>15454654
Why is it a problem for a niche company to do niche things? The vast majority of games are cheap, low quality offers. Surely, you've seen what's on Steam?
>>15454648
That's an early release. He became a big boy. By his words "We don't use honorifics since we're big boys".
>>15452690
They said in one of their recent streams that they have "at least 3" announcements for AX.
>>15454573
Yeah, but those people usually don't make an all-ages version of their game. Take the Rance series for example, TADA would never sign off on an all-ages Rance game.
>>15454686
Not using honorifics in a Japanese game is rude, dude. RUDE as hell.
tl;dr: This is whining.
But the discussion around Himawari could as well have been a discussion about Ghostbusters. You'd have someone claim the remake is "better art" and "not as patriachy" as the first one so it would be easier to sell.
Some would say they'd prefer the original, but then they would be called out that it has bad art and is unsellable. Also the producers didn't really want to make a new Ghostbusters 3, so this remake is what they really wanted all this time. So we should appreciate their opinon about what Ghostbusters we should be watching.
And naturally we can't just patch in the old ghostbusters in the new one, so the only choice is to just sell the new one. If you don't like it, you don't have to watch any ghostbusters.
(Hint: The actual solution is to sell the old version if people want it.)
>>15454604
Depends on if you're into too deep for you stories. It's generally well regarded and Moogy approved.
>>15454774
>Moogy approved
I hate Himawari now.
>>15454744
Frontwing won't want to compete with something they can't make money on. This is what happens when different versions are owned by separate entities.
>>15453252
KnS 3 and Caucasus confirmed.
>>15454882
What the fuck is he on about? I'm pretty sure JAST and MG predates his faggot company. Also, S;G the VN was already popular.
>>15454882
>posting your own twitter screencap for attention
Reminder that Sekai ruined VNs in the west with Winged Cloud and Sakura.
>>15454914
No one really cares about the western normalfags.
>>15454914
Stay mad MG shill, shouldn't have fucked over that partnership and you'd have some of those Sakura-bucks too.
>>15454793
Most reasonable excuse yet. Not to mention they won't care as people pirate the shit out of the 18+ version.
>>15454573
And because they love it so much, they only have a few H-scenes, which are all shoehorned in at awkward places, consist entirely of the same copypasta you see in almost every story VN H-scene, and often are never referred to any more in any other point in the story.
It is an established fact that Japanese fans will boycott VNs for not having porn. No company has come out and said it (as that would be suicide), but I'm fairly sure a good chunk of them would prefer not having to put porn into every single route of every single game.
>>15454134
Maitetsu won't get an 18+ version so that's not an issue.
>>15455216
Go read manga called EG maker.
>>15454624
>Would you rather have ``I worked on a famous game'' or ``I worked on a famous porn game'' in your resumee?
This is irrelevant in Japan. You need only look at Type Moon's success to see how little they care about that, or the hordes of mangaka who were successful ero artists before doing mainstream stuff.
>>15455216
>It is an established fact that Japanese fans will boycott VNs for not having porn.
Japanese has nothing to do with it. All fans will boycott VNs without porn IF they wanted porn. If they don't want porn I doubt they have ever boycott VNs without porn.
>>15455321
Why not just do it ourselves, at last some of us here should know Japanese and have the technical skill to do it.
>>15455372
I mean make a 18+ patch, not the whole game.
>>15455380
Depends on the script changes and if they change the engine at all, about whether it'll even be possible or not. For example Grisaia can't be patched. I doubt Maitetsu will be like that but there's no way of knowing until after the game is released. I'm sure if it's a simple matter somebody will do it, but I doubt SP will.
>>15455372
Yeah, good like with that.
>>15455372
Doing free work for dovac...
Helping dovac in any way...
>>15455426
>...
Die.
>>15455426
You can also hurt dovac with it, just send the patch to erogedownload and make sure that the admin only uploads the game pre patched. Then that would make it so that only the people who pirate the game can get it uncensored as long as you dont upload the patch alone anywhere else.
>>15455476
Why do you want to kill SP?
>>15455410
If they change the engine it'd be to Unity, which would make patching it easier like Grisaia will be after they finish porting it.
>>15455503
That is just what they get for not doing it themselves.
Right after claiming to have saved VN localization he goes right on to boast about how bad of a business man he is.
>>15455568
No! He looks past money. You have the choice to purchase fan-translations for pennies like JAST but you can also honor the work they did and build bridges. Sekai Pro's is best company basically
>>15455568
G-Senjou is also one of the sneakiest VN releases I've ever seen on Steam.
Was that shit advertised anywhere? I don't think they even mentioned it on their twitter.
So why do we hate SP again?
Because they resell fan translations?
Not trying to start shit just curious
>>15455734
They were too busy banning people who talked about how the CGs were cropped.
>>15455739
Because they're disingenuous bastards who frequently lie mislead their audience, if not outright insult their audience.
While delivering products of shoddy quality, that they still insist on taking payment for before the product is even complete, by means of crowdfunding.
>>15455739
First, they started the kickstarter bullshit.
Second, they popularized OELVN.
Third, I hate dovac.
>>15454308
Heavy. They don't just look like children, they act very much like children during sex scenes.
If you decide to check it for yourself you'll see that nobody would localize most of the scenes. The only real solution I see for Sekai would be keeping only the scenes with adult-looking characters. I don't know if those are good or not because I've only masturbated to the loli scenes though.
>>15455820
A true connoisseur, I see.
>>15455739
>Supporting censorship giving little to consideration to uncut releases;
>Multiple rude / unprofessional comments by the company CEO;
>Insults to VNs main fan base because few of us actually buy shit;
>Bad translations (in the past; now I don't know because I'm not following);
>Thanks to them EOVNL developers started to put out shit like there's tomorrow which leads to the following point;
>Market saturation (which would eventually happen but they made it much faster);
>Abusing of crowdfunding sites;
This is what I can think of the top of my head.
And welcome, new friend. I hope you enjoy the ride because this is ahighway to hell.
>>15455828
Nice surprise box, "oldfag".
>>15455739
It is the combination of them doing all they can to get licenses, and then do the minimal amount of work to sell them.
G-Senjou for example they didn't care that they didn't get the 18+ version. It was all about the high ranked game and publishing it to get the cash. Not to mention they agreed to have voices as a DLC just to get the deal.
The result is >>15455568
Dovac complaining that people didn't buy his butchered all-ages version that he paid extra for just to snatch from all other companies that could do it properly.
>>15455806
This is kind of funny in hindsight. Sekai did end up delivering 18+ Grisaia despite accusations they would only release the all-ages versions, and now Front Wing is trying to shamelessly cash in on the Western market with questionable business practices (suddenly releasing Chiruchiru Michiru on their own, intending to release CG/Music gallery as DLC for Sharin, making a Huniepop clone with recycled assets from earlier games).
>>15455739
The reasons people give has changed over time. I think it started out with criticism of Kickstarter use (arguing KS is only for indie devs), then accusations of censorship (people didn't believe Sekai's promises of 18+ versions), dovac being a prick to people criticizing Sekai Project on various places, then complaints about translation quality (mostly based on Nekopara; this argument has become less used recently as later releases have generally been better), and recently complaints about 'oversaturation of the market' (that same market MG had trouble selling 1k copies of a given game to? Sales are better than ever) and flooding Steam with OELVN junk (which was happening before Sekai Project and most Steam OELVNs aren't from Sekai Project).
Though if you ask me, and this is an opinion I've held from the very start, /jp/ hates Sekai Project because it very intentionally shifted the market towards a different audience. We are becoming irrelevant. The market increasingly caters to the Steam VN newbies rather than the 'core' fanbase (though this is increasingly becoming a misnomer). Dovac seriously fanned the flames by blatantly admitting we are not the target audience. By achieving success with a new audience - one that actually pays for the games - other companies are also increasingly focusing towards people we dislike.
And personally, I think we deserved this. I've been buying VNs since 2009, but the very concept of buying VNs instead of always pirating them was laughed at. We're vocal about what companies should do to please us, but we barely ever pay them for their efforts. We're a terrible fanbase and have only grown worse over the years. It only makes sense to abandon us for a far more profitable and easier to please audience.
>>15456023
Go away, dovac.
Sekai Project hasn't released a game with an awkward/stiff script full of typos since Mayoi Hitsuji no Kajuen 6 days ago. They've clearly put those days behind them.
>>15456023
You can thank Front Wing for the 18+ version of Grisaia.
Still looks like SP had no interest in it whatsoever. And would have likely just ignored it if they could.
>>15456023
The lack of uncut releases is the main concern I have. With their doujin and OELVN stuff, they have generally delivered with uncut releases, and G-Senjou is the only censored only released thus far (though the Grisaia situation is a pain in the ass). But if one looks at their list of upcoming titles now, they have half dozen big 18+ titles with no uncut release announced. I won't necessary hold Maitetsu against them if it turns out to be censored only (beyond Dovac's "we made a decision, but we will tell you later build up") as I have my doubts anyone in the market would release it uncut right now. But while it might end up being a moot point if they happen to deliver with uncut releases for their upcoming big titles, at this moment it is concerning that they have an impressive list of titles and won't say anything on if they will be released uncut or not.
Will this ever get a sequel? It's my favorite.
>>15455820
>>Heavy. They don't just look like children, they act very much like children during sex scenes.
And that's a problem because...?
>>15456023
>/jp/ hates me because I'm too successful. I keep being successful and they go no, it's too much. Stop being so successful.
Fuck off, Trump.
>>15455372
Not so fast, Fuwafriend. Your barely N4 level knowledge doesn't really count as "knowing Japanese".
>>15452157
>Da Capo 3 - 100% translated
Congratulations!
>>15456390
Considering the company that made it no longer exists, no. Besides, things were neatly wrapped up with the endings anyway right?
https://twitter.com/dobacco/status/747199593570439168
What a idiot he can't even do bingo correctly
>>15456832
I seriously hope August wouldn't lower themselves to work with such faggots.
MangaGamer is going to announce Otoboku 2.
I didn't even know Fata Morgana got updated with new sfx and images until I read the blog. At least put a notice on the account page.
>>15456023
Steam fanbase isn't an easy to please fanbase. They trashed Garden of Stray Sheep and can't stand any form of "censorship" whether it be in the games or on the Steam discussion forums.
There's also the fact that Steam sales numbers for VNs have definitely dropped lately. It's clear that VNs were somewhat of a fad on Steam and many people have just moved on. Anything that's not as famous and Muv Luv or Grisaia might not sell more than on MG's site.
And let's not forget that Steam users are major cheapskates that make multiple threads about how overpriced Labyrinth of Grisaia is.
>>15456930
Why? The first one didn't sell well enough to do the sequel.
>>15456974
I'm happy about this. Hopefully it'll keep good companies out of Western cuckery.
>>15454797
May even get Pianissimo to tide us over but the best announcement would be that ig gave them the go-ahead to start translating KnS3 as soon as the script is finalized
>>15457069
That's not gonna happen. KnS3 isn't anywhere close to being complete and they're not just going to let MG have it day 1, since they'd be worried about people playing the English version with a proxy server.
>>15456974
>[they] can't stand any form of "censorship" whether it be in the games or on the Steam discussion forums.
This is no different from the old fanbase, except they will keep buying despite complaining. (And considering the amount of sales compared to the amount of threads, most don't really seem to care. Not to mention that a lot of the complainers seem to be from the old fanbase.)
>There's also the fact that Steam sales numbers for VNs have definitely dropped lately.
Is this really the case, or have recent releases not appealed to the Steam audience (as they were more things the old fanbase is interested in)? Clannad Side Stories sold 3,229 ± 1,530 copies according to SteamSpy. Even assuming the lowest possible amount of sales, that's well over 2k, which is far more than MG used to sell in pre-Steam days (actually, it might still be more than MG's current sales).
>>15457373
Kindred spirits sold more (¬‿¬) #YURIFORTHEWIN!!!
>>15457373
>Clannad Side Stories sold 3,229 ± 1,530
Did you forget to factor kickstarter backers into that? Most of those aren't sales.
MG announcing shit confirmed ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ
Are you a bad enough dude to prove your precognitive abilities or be proven a fool for all time? Place your bets, /jp/.
>>15457399
And my card, that I may be proven a fool once more.
>>15457399
I love doing this.
>>15457399
>>15457415
Best to wait until later in the week to do this. No reason to guess how many titles Jast will announce now when there is a good chance they'll put up an AX preview post before AX. Same with Sekai, they'll probably have a preview with something more specific then "at least 3" before AX. Someone from Degica noted that they were putting up an event schedule on Monday, and it's possible they put out more info as well.
>>15457466
I have a feeling sekai might, but if they do it'll probably be literally hours before so there's no point. jast doesn't usually say, but if they do I'll make a new template for the inevitable AX thread.
>>15456438
Ask Dovac.
>>15457485
I'd assume that Sekai would have it up before AX though since it would also include exhibitor information, and looking back they had the Anime Central post up well in advance. Although they haven't updated their convention page with E3 stuff, so perhaps not. Jast wouldn't surprise me this year, just because they have been doing regular blog posts on their DevLog.
At the very least though, I suspect it's very likely that some previews going up before AX would require a new template by Thursday.
>>15457521
Sekai posted the number of AB announcements last time just two days before the panel, which in this case would force me to make a new template just a few hours before mangagamer's panel(which sucks the fun out of making guesses). That said, I'm actually fairly certain that they probably only have three judging by the amount of placeholders on their convention page, so if I were to bet, I'd say that it'll probably be fine.
For jast, well, I guess there could be a first time for everything. If you want to enhance that chance though, you could try asking their tumblr/devlog. So far as I know the guy that runs that isn't going to AX, so he might see it and answer it.
I'm not too bothered about updating a template if I have to though.
>>15454494
Sion's and I think one other girl who I didn't give a shit about were canon, the other two were not.
>>15454466
that's mainly because Supipara was weaker than ef/eden*
minori needs more LOVE, not more love
>>15455739
OELVN and all-ages visual novel are the cancer of the industry and SP is making money with them while others companies have a hard time to sell good titles.
>>15456930
I wouldn't mind this but I'm not positive on MG getting Otoboku 2
>>15457373
Did you forget about Steamspy's disclaimer that it's useless for sales under 30,000?
>>15457387
They plan to announce another BL game and people are hoping/expecting stuff like Dies Irae, so even if the announcements are pretty good, most people will be disappointed somehow.
>>15457387
Well it's pretty obvious that people are going to bitch if it's a BL title.
>>15458326
>>15458375
They probably are going to announce a BL title, but I get the feeling that comment is possibly about Alicesoft titles.
>>15457399
>>15458405
>Muramasa
:-)
>>15458397
I would gladly have Evenicle or a nukige like Oyako Rankan,Tsuma Shibori or Tsumamigui instead of Rance though.
>>15458412
Hey, fuck you.
>>15457572
Is ef even any good? I ask because I don't want to buy two VNs just to complete the story and then find out it sucks.
>>15458467
Stay mad /haniho/.
>>15458511
Pirate it then.
>>15458511
Watch the anime.
Karakara will be out in two hours and backers have not received keys yet. Sasuga SP.
>>15457568
I'm pretty sure all of them are non-canon.
>>15452650
>Did you know that, aside from a bundle, Haruka has been in the top 5 every week consecutively since launch?
Yes and no. There were days where it wasn't but it would be on there a few days later. The "weekly" ranking on their site is wonky.
>>15458511
pirate then buy if you liked it like I did
1st tale is pretty decent and the latter tale is even better
>>15458560
The anime is significantly worse than the VN because it leaves out some major details.
>>15458662
>The anime is significantly worse than the VN because it leaves out some major details.
More news at 11. It's the same for every VN adaption.
>>15457387
If only some company would surprise me with Hayate no Gotoku PS Vita ports or Amagami. But usually you never get those anime spin off mass sale games.
It shouldn't be that hard to not disappoint me. I like half the games on the market. It just needs to not have a retarded name (funbags), or be filled with scat, or be a hard copy of a game with scat.
>>15458511
Ef will devastate you but it's damn good, specially the latter tale.
Also, the glorious soundtrack and fantastic presentation is worth it by itself.
>>15458705
Don't all the scat games have options to skip it though?
>>15458772
In Euphoria you just don't see the CG. You still get the whole "5 pounds of diarrhea shit flowed from her ass." dialogue though
>>15458777
I guess I'm too desensitized to be bothered by it, but I can still understand why it's so off putting. I'm the same with urethral insertions.
>>15458769
>Also, the glorious soundtrack and fantastic presentation is worth it by itself.
I would recommend just getting the soundtrack. The actual game should be skipped, because it is somewhat overrated especially around here (well, guess it's no wonder given how deep /jp/ likes to bury itself in MG's ass). Some might even call the story ``pretentious'' and ``trying too hard''.
>>15458806
What is your problem with MG, dovac?
>>15458806
Others, however, might have some idea about what 'pretentious' actually means.
>>15458806
Just because something is somewhat overrated doesn't mean it should be skipped, that's not the same as being bad. And it's no more overly dramatic than Key's titles which try to kill you with feels.
>>15458836
Any game looks reasonable when compared to Key games.
>>15458806
>``text''
Disregarding the stupid post, what the fuck are those quotation marks?
Why isn't ef bundled? Is MG trying to get every penny for Supipara?
>>15458769
Learn Japanese for the fandisc
>>15458517
Please, /haniho/ would be ecstatic if Evenicle was being translated.
The fuck is KARAKARA and is there porn?
>>15459077
Man, I wish there was a search engine which could answer questions like this.
>>15459092
Me too. Do you know what KARAKARA is?
>>15459094
Shitty original with Down's syndrom characters.
>>15459071
You think so ? I'm pretty sure they will bitch at everything that is not a Rance game.
>>15459077
It's a short kinetic novel that rips off aspects of Nekopara and that Sekai's charging extra for the uncensor patch for on denpa. It's low budget, so I wouldn't expect much.
>>15459099
Yep, they'd still prefer a Rance game over it but Evenicle is liked there.
>>15458806
>it is somewhat overrated
Note how this anon isn't saying that ef isn't good and therefore contradicting himself.
>Some might even call the story ``pretentious'' and ``trying too hard''.
Nice quotation marks. Sorry for having different taste sempai!
>>15459113
>First place for Ramius
Good taste senpai tachi.
>>15459113
I don't even know who Ramius is but I like her character design the most.
>does absolutely terrible work both in terms of quality and marketing
>yet whines about the state of the market constantly
>and blames both the audience as well as the competitors for absolutely everything negative
How can Sekai Project be so fucking terrible? And are they behaving like this on purpose or something?
>>15459372
I'm guessing he's venting because the market isn't as profitable as it was when he started using kickstarter. It would also make getting licensing deals harder. Peter Payne has said that some Japanese devs have started to expect Nekopara level sales for their titles, so the Japanese side is starting to have unrealistic expectations.
>>15459378
So devs don't understand why Nekopara sold so many copies but want a piece of that.
>>15459378
Isn't the only reason nekopara even sold because it was used as a joke gift?
>>15459415
It got a whole bunch of twitch streamers doing the whole "OMG this is SO japanesexD" and exploded.
>>15456506
My primary takeaway from that entire post is that the angry elitist audience (which is /jp/) doesn't pay for anything, or when they do, they tend to import the originals at great personal expense rather than pay any intermediary who made anything less than a fucking masterpiece.
It turns out people with low standards always make a better market than people with high ones.
>>15459415
It became a meme. That's essentially it.
>>15459412
The obvious answer is that it sold that well because it was early and got a lot of wallet voting.
Now the wallet voting are more on specific releases and the less voted ones do not sell much.
Hopefully after Purino Party FW will stop pursuing the western meme VN market.
>>15459638
Then how are we gonna get Island?
>>15459643
Wouldn't know
But I really don't like this "buy this shit so we maybe get something good" mentality.
>>15459415
Nekopara volume 2 has over 100k sales already. People just like it.
>>15459415
It also caught on with streamers
>>15459682
Everybody likes catgirls.
>>15459378
Worse than making less money than expected, they're probably selling way less than what they promised companies in order to get them on board with localization.
What bothers me most about sekai though is their attitude of "this industry wouldn't exist without us", like we owe them something.
>>15459718
I remember when some ANN host tried to say that Sekai started the whole English VN localization thing and Sekai played along. I lost respect for both of them that day. Not that they would care, of course.
>>15459718
>like we owe them something.
Well I kinda do after pirating all their releases.
>>15459378
>so the Japanese side is starting to have unrealistic expectations.
I have to think there will be quite a bit of upcoming disappointment, even by companies that are only looking at titles like Libra or Kindred Spirits to set their expectations. Titles like Love Sweets and Sora wo Aogite Kumo Takaku are likely only the tip of the iceberg with regards to Japanese companies localizing their own titles, and I'm sure plenty more titles in development are like Chrono Clock, Maitetsu, or Wagamama High Spec, either having localization start before the Japanese release or at least being developed with localization in mind. Additionally, there are likely a half dozen more E2/NextNinja type localization startups out there as well, all seeing Steam and Kickstarter as a quick way to get easy cash with little effort. Obviously some efforts will be successful, especially those with famous titles or have the luck of working on the type of title that will do well on Steam, but many more are going to likely lead to nothing but disappointment and be nothing more than a waste of time and money.
>>15459718
I'm guessing that lower sales than expected is why Akabei Soft2 dumped them. The Michiru fandiscs and Labyrinth of Grisaia haven't exactly been burning up the charts either.
>>15459638
I wouldn't mind recycled assets and idiotic story if they at least pretended they put any effort in making that game. I torrented it and I still feel insulted for being treated like shit.
They didn't even bother actually playing it themselves it seems. Worst of all, their so-called in-game tutorial only teaches you the fastest way to lose, or more specifically, how to play HuniePop's "match three" instead of PP's "grab any piece and shuffle the board with it".
Don't even get me started on a VN segments. Did any of their voice actress die out of boredom while recording? And what was the last VN you've played which had no autoread mode? How about a censored uncensor patch?
That said, I hope they'll learn their lesson and actually try next time.
>>15459770
At least there were a couple of girls that made me want to read Pure Girl and Innocent Girl just for them. Though those will never be in English so it's not even a good thing.
>>15459743
>Well I kinda do after pirating all their releases.
I'll never understand this mindset, as well as "be grateful you're getting this shit or you'll get nothing", although the latter can be simplified as having no standards/tastes.
I personally pirate stuff to find out whether it's worth my time (spent reading/playing/watching etc) at all first, and if it turns out that it is, whether it's worth its money or maybe even worth supporting by other/additional means.
>>15459592
I would say most of the sales were because it was featured by twitch streamers and was cheap. Huge, expensive, serious VNs will still sell in small quantities. Devs are delusional if they think they will grow to mainstream.
>>15459783
>Though those will never be in English so it's not even a good thing.
Well. I am guessing Purino Party is doing pretty bad. But isn't the entire point behind Purino Party to build interest towards Pure Girl and Innocent Girl and later localize it if Purino Party does well?
It's pretty hard to see the point of Purino Party otherwise.
>>15459839
I thought the point of it was to cash in on Huniepop's popularity. I mean they didn't choose a match-3 type of game for nothing.
Hell if I search for Huniepop on Purino's Steam page I get 27 results right away. The first thing every review does is compare it to Huniepop.
Now, were they thinking of bringing over Pure and Innocent Girl if it sold well? I guess we won't know now.
>>15459839
The purpose of Purino Party was nothing more then seeing that Huniepop makes a fortune, and attempt to copy that as cheaply as possible in an attempt to make a fortune too.
>>15459839
Right now it has mixed reviews which isn't a good sign. It's also likely gotten alot of refunds.
>>15459108
I urge you to at least give the demo a try before passing it off as a Nekopara clone. I initially had the same impression, and likely it was intentionally marketed as such to get attention from the Nekopara fanbase, but in practice it's very different.
>>15459929
That ain't gonna work, dovac.
Sekai sure is spamming their online shop hard. If only they tried as hard on marketing their visual novels.
>>15459976
They have an online shop? Maybe I'll finally buy something from them.
>>15459991
>>15459976
I see the irony here.
>>15459991
They use to sell 2 Sakura things, now they redid it and now sell 5 Nekopara things and something for Fault, all stuff they plan to sell for AX and have been pushing it hard since they opened it. Though I imagine that they are pushing it hard because they want to prepare to have a platform to sell their upcoming Sony hard copies and manga, and they probably can get a high margin on general merchandise if the store starts to get traffic.
>>15460058
Oh shit you were talking about denpa lol.
I was thinking of a store to buy their non-adult titles like Root Double, for non-Steam users.
Though to be honest denpasoft store's web design sucks, doesn't make me want to buy anything in there.
>>15457387
All I want are some moeges. That's it.
Dracu-Riot was the last moege we got, and it wasn't even fully TLed, let alone edited/TLCed. At least we're getting Tenshin Ranman at some point, Yuzusoft is absolutely based when it comes to their moege.
Sanoba Witch or Amairo Islenauts when?
>>15460096
Who cares about what this bitch says?
>>15459682
>>15459701
More like China likes it. It succeeded for the same reason the Warcraft movie did. China.
Does Bamboo own any other companies that produce VNs?
>>15460195
LevoL?
>>15459372
You forget:
> Killed the entire Steam market for VNs by flooding it with OELVN crap with insanely inflated reviews for a cheap buck, thus scaring off the normalfags from the burgeoning industry while actively trying to make an enemy out of anyone left to support him.
> Still flooding the market with OELVN / 2 hour shitty VN with a 1.0-5.0 on vndb/EGS.
Bravo Dovac. Any fucking anon with a high school degree and a little bit of self-restraint could easily have navigated the company from it's insanely advantageous position in the Nekopara era into an industry leader while maintaining the health of the industry, continuing to sell hand-over-fist.
I'm being optimistic here. There'll be hardcopies of Ozmafia instead of #4 or #5, most likely, but I want to believe.
>>15460260
Apperently Sekai people say that MG said its not Maggot Baits.
>>15460295
Room No. 9 yaoi confirmed. Haro was really hyping it on her twitter, so I wouldn't even be surprised.
>>15460295
It's gotta be be something hamashima related since she's there.
>>15460302
I'm petty sure that's way too early in development to be announced
Apparently Aroduc's translating Shinobi Ryuu.
The Go Go Nippon OELVN clone is now on kickstarter.
http://forums.fuwanovel.net/topic/13544-go-go-democratic-peoples-republic-of-korea/
>>15460316
It's supposed to come out late this summer.
>>15454299
Have you guys ever considered giving discount codes (not free copies, just a little bit off) to people who buy digital copies of games that later get physicals? I say this because I want the Haruka hardcopy, but it feels really bad to pay $100 for the game, especially now that I've already 100% it.
>>15460320
Out of all the insane ideas, that one's the most probable.
>>15460260
Haro's gonna be there and she's got two projects, so two of those are probably hers, meaning at least one of them is probably relevant to her interests.
Now that I think about it, I guess it's just paying full price twice that sucks. I've imported Japanese games for almost double that without a second thought.
>>15460328
I think since physicals are so limited, they want to get the maximum price for what is essentially a collector's edition. But I understand your pain. I guess you'll just have to use your MG points for that.
>>15460316
