So has anyone made any progress in their games of choice lately?
>>12667711
That picture. lol
On topic, I haven't made that much progress as of lately. Working on it though
Get jobs wives and mortgages idiots
>>12667711
i kek'd at the picture
and no, i still suck at 2dx
Is it normal for random to be this difficult if I only just turned it on? Playing level 7s, but now having trouble with 6s with it.
>>12667735
>>12667754
Hi osu players
>>12667792
Yes random is a pain in the ass to get used to.
it's all over now
http://p.eagate.573.jp/game/sdvx/
hi <3~
>>12667926
OH SHIT WHERE DID YOU GET THAT FROM
>>12667926
Is that Bemani Invasion's new cab, or one of ero's personal?
Working on putting together a DDR set-up for PS2. Are there any good dance pads still being made these days?
>>12667926
how?
>>12667881
feel when you wont get to test it
>>12667993
>how?
just be in contact with the right people at the right time and be ready for $10k to be drained from your bank
its really not worth it
>>12667992
buy a Cobalt FLux off of ebay and AVOID those OMEGA pads, they are literally made with ducttape and the guy DOESN'T believe in soldering.
>>12668003
Any decent foam ones until I can fork over the cash for a Cobalt Flux?
>>12668009
RedOctanes foam ones come to mind but you'll need to hunt for those as well.
>>12668016
Would eighty bucks for a used one be a rip-off?
>>12668022
Anon it's been so long sense these things were in production I'd say take anything you can manage that doesn't break the bank.
>>12668024
A'ight, thanks.
>>12667999
10k is a bit much
I would be keen to own a legit one just for the prestiege
>>12668441
And how would you get it connected? Game is worthless w/o network anyway.
>>12668446
PWorld.
>>12668452
Yes that's going to be around forever. What do you do when konami kills it?
>>12668446
I dunno; there was a 4th style machine for sale in my country a few months ago but the bidding went up to $90 and I lost out because I didn't want to spend that much money
I'm gonna build my own SDVX controller anyway, I'll probably put in the order for the parts within the next week
>>12668538
I like sdvx but the whole useless w/o network thing is kind of a dealbreaker for me when it comes to even thinking about an asc for it. I want to be able to still play this shit in ten years. (Also, I don't like kshoot)
Please stop me from spending a few hundred bucks on an fp7.
Also, what color LEDs do I get?
>>12668550
-No.
-Red for arcade closeness
>>12668550
Pink LEDs.
>>12668452
PW supports SDVX already?
So which one is the gay one?
>>12668924
You.
>>12668938
But I don't like men
Traps though sure, but that's not gay
>>12668992
Oh, ok sorry.
>>12668992
Gay. I bet you liked the Chrono Seeker overlays.
Why are Spada's notes so bland and ugly
>>12669121
I don't remember it having any
>>12667711
Still his pastebin makes me laugh so hard.
You can even watch his past broadcasts and get a ton of info how to run it.
Anyway, chewing 9s, somewhat slow because work work.
>>12669228
So apparently there's talk of reinviting horo back into psun via another ctrl account and it sounds like Crino's the one doing it. Listen to his (Horo's) most recent stream.
>>12669228
Anybody selling a KOC in EU?
>>12669662
didn't mean to reply
How hard is it to get used to a controller after having played nothing but keyboard? Will I have to start learning completely from scratch?
>>12669722
You'll generally have to start from scratch but progression will be much faster due to playing on something it's meant to be played on.
Any time I feel sad I just remember horo is banned and I immediately get happy.
>>12669751
Honestly him and his friends all deserve to be banned from the network forever with all that streaming bullshit they did.
>>12669769
I mostly just hate him and his friends from how obnoxious they all are. Listening them discuss anything on his stream was terrible as hell
Does anyone know how to get Sound Voltex II on my PC? I played it at a con a bit ago and looked up how to get it, but I couldnt get a straight answer. Has anyone got it or has any ideas?
>>12669785
bad timing, dude.
>>12669785
Ask Horo.
>>12669785
Go fuck yourself.
>>12669785
Go to your local arcade and make friends with bemani players. Maybe one of them would be able to invite you to sows.
>>12669785
;_; Sorry man, wrong time to be asking.
>>12669785
Shoot me an email. You look like a nice person I can trust.
>>12669785
Horo will tell you.
>>12669885
You aren't the real Horo, you didn't even say boku.
>>12669918
send boku an email. ill hook you up tomodachi
lolislolislolislolislolislolislolislolislolislolislolislolislolislolislolislolislolislolislolislolislolislolislolislolislolislolislolislolislolislolislolislolis i love lolis :3
>>12669798
>>12669819
>>12669864
>>12669885
>>12669905
I'm so glad you faggots have to put up with tuxdude, he's like the mirror you need to see what a bunch of insufferable turboweebs you really look like to anyone outside your sekrit klub.
>>12669940
Just don't reply. Talk about the game, not its players. The latter is why generals are frowned upon.
>>12669940
He's only the beginning. There's are people far worse than tuxdude in there.
>>12669950
woops forgot to take the name off
>>12669950
Someone's mad.
>>12669328
good, maybe he'll quit being a bitch and take his medicine and keep his mouth shut from now on
>>12669993
That's just it, that's reinviting a banned user, that means all involved accounts can be nuked into oblivion.
>>12670003
who cares if he's using a pcbid from cirno or whoever else is in his circlejerk group. The real reason he was banned from sows was because he was sharing his passkey, which is a nono.
Who's Horo?
i honestly feel bad that cirno has to be thrown into this situation
cirno doesn't use sows, like at all. he hasn't even been on in weeks. the only info he knows is from horo.
>>12669940
>playing osu
>playing sdvx at a con
>having no drive to actually understand how to get the game
Neo /jp/ incarnate
>>12670021
Shit by association, that's why you don't become a sperglord.
>>12670012
he also gave data to a japanese person
which is strictly a fucking no
>>12670025
>implying I am that anon
>>12670086
That too, but the main reason was the account sharing.
Spada Marquee and speaker pops arrived.
Now all I need is a TV mount and I can copy Iorek's setup.
how do i get SPADA out of windowed mode
i can't seem to find a fix and i want fullscreen asdf
it was fullscreen before once then it randomly went to windowed, my monitor supports the fullscreen res too
>>12670722
Ask on the sows forums, if you don't have an account, you shouldn't have the data.
>>12670722
lower your monitor resolution so that windowed fills it
timing is very inconsistent if you run fullscreen, but if you don't care that much then just remove -w from the .bat
>>12670729
no shit i have a sows account lmao, i never implied i didn't
i don't want to make a useless thread that's why i asked here
what the fuck is this shit
finding a good crt is hard
>>12670732
Sorry not buying that.
The data threads are where you go for stupid questions. That's why they're there.
>>12670737
you should start buying it then
>>12670744
Mate, your ratio is shit. 1TB up or go the fuck home.
>>12670744
well excuse me for not having 10+ seedboxes, shitlord
>>12670510
>>12670514
Where did you order these from?
I want SDVX, or at least Tricoro ones.
>>12670750
dude, reading you is a pain, if you are not going to help, don't say anything.
>>12670756
check in the gamestart.bat if it doesn't have the argument "-w", if it does, erase it.
>>12670781
Stop discussing this shit on a public forum then.
>>12670729
>>12670737
Take your shit back to sows. Discussing game related issues outside of sows has always been allowed. If you don't want to give out help to anybody that isn't on sows, then that's fine. But you obviously just want an excuse to be a prick, because when he gave you proof he's on sows, you continued to give him bullshit for his ratio.
People like you are the reason why stuff gets leaked in the first place. Stop fucking it up for the rest of us.
>>12670794
People like you are why this community gets a bad name. stop being an asshole.
why do i get better at 2dicks every time I take a break longer that a week
>>12671073
IIDX SPADA (LDJ-2014071600-nc):
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:F14153A90DA58A6FB3571D7772E3E84AFDD73BD5&dn=LDJ-2014071600-nc
DDR 2013 (MDX-2014032700-nc):
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:0bbc0256d7e61442c2188baebdbd21b2b30471fd&dn=MDX-2014032700-nc
pop'n music 21 Sunny Park (M39-2014061900):
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:HHBHENUJ5YG2VERVSCFLCT5KMXYRO7F5&dn=M39
Sound Voltex 2 (KFC-2014012900):
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:e290b6fed5569a8455dad436b88498bcf1bb6de7&dn=KFC-2014012900
Trackers:
udp://open.demonii.com:1337/announce
udp://tracker.openbittorrent.com:80
udp://tracker.publicbt.com:80
udp://tracker.ccc.de:80
Fuck SOWS
>>12671298
Is that you Horo?
>>12671298
hi horo
>>12670722
Remove -w in the .bat if it's there.
>>12671361
I'm not horo, i havent lurked long enough to know who that is. From this thread he sounds like a fag. I found this info on another forum after not getting a sows invite. I have no name because namefagging is for fags.
http://www.nido.org/v/res/86098.html#86213
>>12671298
When will people realize having all the data in the world is meaningless if there is no network to run them?
>>12671373
Well when the network goes down and no-one can play anything we can all blame people like you.
>>12671373
you're probably gonna get banned for posting warez links
not all of us are bad, just saying; the only people who are shit are the dickwaggers who go "ohohoh i have legit arcade data dn u dont!!!"
>>12671384
God fucking forbid
>>12671381
my thought exactly
>>12671382
you're a cunt, there's a reason this shit isn't public
Someone remind me why psun isn't sows only when shit like >>12671298 are still ignoring all the recent rule changes? Its not too hard to change the network URL, wipe all pcbids and op accounts and then invite all sows users automatically and then remove the invite feature.
>>12670014
This. I've had a sows account for years and I've never heard of this guy.
>>12671430
why don't you go to the psun forums and ask that?
>>12671474
Osufag, semi-popular around those parts, streamed sdvx to 2K people and gave asc data to a japanese fag as well as sharing accounts with them. Then they were banned.
>>12671430
The psun devs believe that people who got the data from an outside source should have a fair chance in being able to play the game.
At one point, psun wasn't a part of sows and a community split happened.
A lot of mistrust happened and that's how the initial tricoro leak came to be.
In fact, the psun ftp for tricoro was posted on the forums publicly at one point. We were supposed to only play lincle at that time.
>>12671298
FUCK YOU
>>12671539
well, is not like those links aren't dead anyways, they are just overreacting.
>>12671298
Why hasn't this been deleted yet rofl. Its probably already been archived too oh boy.
>>12671630
those are dead links, it doesn't matter.
>>12671637
I am still seeding them, just check them.
>>12671654
>>12671654
you can still seed, but the "data" that links to the stuff to download is deleted, unless someone has the .torrent of those, the magnet links are dead.
>>12671664
You can get the metadata from seeders. If you couldn't, what would be the point of magnet links existing?
>>12671668
ummm, maybe i'm wrong, but that is how i know the magnet links work...
>>12671637
Works well enough for me.
>>12671687
ugh, you are right, the magnet links from pop'n and sdvx works, but spada and ddr 2013 don't.
>>12671699
Spada works, but I lost DDR 2013 so I am unable to seed that game.
just unlocked this on SDVX II
fucking love this chart
>>12671539
How much ass kissing is he doing in the forums?
>>12671800
can we shut up about tuxdude and worry about the fact that there's ARCADE DATA THAT ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BE LEAKED on here
i can give a fuck less what some dumb teenager says (no offense tuxdude)
>>12671803
None taken
>>12671803
oh no! someone call the bemani police
>>12671803
Calm down speglord.
>>12671803
dude, tuxdude is the mascot of this thread, we can talk about him at any moment, don't be like that :c
>>12671803
hi tuxdude
>>12667711
I just moved recently and found several taiko no tatsujin arcade machines for the first time in my life, so I keep ruining myself every weekend to play all the songs on them.
so i'm considering choosing between yuan's sdvx controller or DAO's
anyone have either of these to say which works good? i'm highly leaning in favor for yuan's because it's pretty cheap and i need a controller (getting bored of playing w/ 2 mices
>>12671885
Dao's simple edition is supposed to come out this month. I'd wait for that.
>>12671849
Where did you move to?
My local arcade has some but I always get tired playing them.
>>12671885
Wait for SE Dao or build your own for $50
/jp/ I am in need of some help here. Recently a friend of mine bought a SDVX controller without thinking. After, he realised how hard it was to get the game and ended up offering to sell his controller to me. I already have a vague idea on getting into Sows so I'm just asking if it's worth the effort or if his price is worth it. His price is $360 and stresses there won't be a refund even if it won't work (which is my main worry). What do you think /jp/?
>>12672379
Is it a brand new SVRE9?
>>12672379
tell recently a friend of yours to play k-shoot mania
>>12672379
ask to test it first with KSHOOT
either that or BUILD IT YOURSELF FOR $50
>>12672390
>SVRE9
Yep, all stock if that means anything.
>>12672394
>>12672408
Will do, thanks.
>>12672501
To be honest, 360 is an extremely good deal. The thing itself costs 399, with shipping it can go up to 450-500.
The part about "if it won't work" is suspicious though. Have him test the knobs on both desktop and kshoot first.
>>12672379
lol what a fucking retard
tell him to kill himself
>>12672537
I was thinking the same thing. He's rich as fuck and he says he doesn't care. Probably why I'm getting a pretty decent deal.
PSun is so going to get locked down cause of idiots in this thread.
I'm not much of a techhie, but lets say the SDVX network gets taken down. Is it really a big deal? Can't we just prop up another?
>>12672670
and where would you start with that?
>>12671885
yuan is out of microswitches so orders are closed for a while
>>12672673
Like I said, I'm not into networking, so I have no clue whatsoever.
>>12672679
and there lies the problem. all the people that know how are already on the team.
He's right though, there are a few small networks in Korea and Japan already. All very hush-hush, naturally, since they could get serious jail time. Some ignorant elitists on IRC pretend they know shit when they have no fucking idea, what's new
>>12672684
So you're implying that no-one actually coded anything and they just stole functioning code?
>>12672684
You have to be pretty fucking dumb to think we don't know about bemanichannel.
The network is not the only thing at risk here.
>>12672697
Seems like a few people have really no idea from this thread
>>12672691
Not implying either of those because you can't know without actually seeing their source code.
Self-moderating community is great, but calling everyone a fucktard or w/e is not the way forward.
>>12672723
Meta calling on them has never been the way forward either.
>>12672684
if you're talking about bemanichannel then it's been known for a while
i'm pretty positive that there's other e-amuse networks
Is bemanichannel on Spada?
Look at all of the people that don't understand what "don't discuss this shit on a public forum" means.
>>12673033
bemanichannel is on Pendual. N-1 doesn't exist there.
>>12673051
lel, why are we even playing on psun then
>>12673053
You need to be fluent in japanese to do anything. You can't even look at forums without fluency. Invite only, smaller than psun and even more locked down than psun is. in short, psun is all you've got to play your leaked games, better enjoy it while you still have access to it because odds are it's going away soon.
>>12673060
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
>>12673060
I know Japanese enough to read watch/anything, can't say I can write it well enough though.
>>12673053
they kick people who are in western territories off
only because we kick people who are in e-amuse territory off
and yes, they have PENDUAL
What's the motivation for psun not getting pendual but pworld getting it early?
is it because of muh real cab, so it'd look more legit if some sperg posted pics on the net or what
>>12673107
>is it because of muh real cab, so it'd look more legit if some sperg posted pics on the net
yes, and to keep US arcades alive
Can konmai sue arcades running pworld, or is pworld legit?
>>12673107
PWorld is bootleg as fuck. They could easily sue, especially since arcades here are making money off of it and konami doesn't get shit from it
>>12673129
not the arcades, but they can shutdown the network easily
>>12673107
the data providers feel more safe if it was N-1
>>12673140
wtf does n-1 mean
>>12673146
n = current =22 = pendual
do the math.
>>12673107
Reminder that they should make psun sows only and get pendual
Reminder psun should be sows only at this point and any day you still have data access is simply because they haven't done it yet.
Does anyone know if you can change the res somehow when playing windowed?
tuxdude seems pretty keen on making psun sows only
Reminder that everyone is overreacting way too much
>>12673194
and the problem with that is?
>>12673204
>>12673206
go away tuxdude
If the network goes sows only, I just want to see how nonsows members react when they can't play their games anymore.
it's funny how these torrent links have been up here for almost more then a day now
and lots of people lurking here probably grabbed them
rip psun
>>12673242
I have already sent a google-translated email to konami's bemani division including links to this thread and all relevant data. I'm done. It's time to put an end to this.
>>12673310
um no that's not how it works
you need to know fluent japanese to be able to talk to them, google translate fucking blows
also it's not like they aren't aware of data leaks already, they'd be stupid if they werent away
>>12673310
hi tuxdude
post screenshots
>>12673222
Bad offline cracks/emulators.
>>12673310
This whole thread is pretty mild. Unless you're giving Konami access to Sows they'll trash your mail. They'll probably do so anyways.
Pictures or videos are still way better to get attention than silly magnet links. They need to confirm that shit not start suing people based on someone's mail. It is not Sows that's in danger, but their sources.
>>12673310
#HoroMad
Sorry dude, that shit doesn't matter
>>12673222
once one goes down one pops back up
but it would be a bad situation for everyone
>>12673361
I did include my sows info, but you're right. I'll try again in a few days, and send an english email to koa as well.
They've removed over 200 songs from osu recently, so they are listening.
>>12673432
Osu is also insanely more popular due to the ease of getting it in comparison and peppy was making money directly from those songs.
>>12673432
So what's the text in the email?
>>12673432
As someone from Sows, could you explain your decision?
if the goal here is to get us to start considering being willing to have our name attached to our shit instead of perpetuating activity here, it's working
>playing Konami games
You deserve getting cock rammed up your ass
Any plans for when all the higher ups fuck off due to this mess?
>>12673715
wait a moment please, i'm going to call the headquarters so you can know.
>>12673715
What mess?
>>12673715
A 19 year old lanky child throwing a hissy fit is a mess?
>>12673966
Is Horo really 19?
It feels odd being the same age as him.
>>12673966
Except account sharing and showing his frustration he hasn't done much else. He's obviously pissed for various reasons, but there's no mess.
>>12673982
actual question to any under-20s have you like been to an arcade?
>>12674093
My local arcade is pretty good, even though it's in the CBD of my city.
It has
IIDX Linicle
popN 19
Jubeat
Jubeat Chinese Release
Jubeat Saucer
Taiko no Tatsujin 14
Taiko no Tatsujin 9 Chinese Release
Gitadora 7 or 8 not sure
2 DDR Machines not sure what version
ez2dj
It also has alot of classic arcade machines with old versions of danmaku, fighting, sports, beatemup, time crisis hotd etc.
I try and make it a mission to check out the local arcades if I go overseas; going to the GAME centres in Japan was fantastic but I didn't play IIDX at the time.
hey guys I'm building a SDVX controller but I'm a bit unsure of which arduino to buy, has anybody built a controller than can work with both K-shoot and SDVX?
>>12674211
http://sdvxii.pancakeapps.com/
>>12674093
Only the Cedar Point arcade which only has DDR.
I use cons and have stuff at home.
>>12674093
I'm exactly 20. Been to the game works in Seattle for Popn and Technika and the one in Vancouver for Jubeat and DDR.
Local movie theaters usually have some shitty older games as well. Older DDR and House of the Dead stuff.
>>12674217
Ah thanks thats a really good guide and makes it look really easy to build.
Anyone have the link to the website where you enter your zip code and it shows you the nearby arcades with certain music games?
>>12674339
It's zenius-i-vanisher
this is the site http://zenius-i-vanisher.com/v5.2/arcades.php
>>12674345
>>12674346
Cheers
>>12673617
You missed your containment thread: >>12635529
Did a quick tidy of the room and re-arranged some of the bemani equipment.
So here it all is. This is what putting yourself into serious debt looks like.
>>12674648
Are you good at any of the games?
>>12674648
mecha it's nearly 4am, go to bed
>>12674669
can pass any reflec or jubeat song, at level 44 (38 old scale) on pop'n, level 15 on SDVX and level 10 on IIDX.
I'm pretty happy with my progress so far.
>>12674675
You go to bed!
IIDX Spada: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:f14153a90da58a6fb3571d7772e3e84afdd73bd5&dn=LDJ-2014071600-nc
IIDX Tricoro: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:630d88a407e276cf423313c284ccb2d5dcb9e7a6&dn=DJHACKERS-LDJ
Reflec Beat Colette: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:a7d4f9cc46fa1db277c06bab3d532baa7ac3b16e&dn=MBR-2014011600
SDVX 1: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:a2628baafcc446f59f64844753f562f37632a85e&dn=KFC-2013052900
SDVX 2: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:e290b6fed5569a8455dad436b88498bcf1bb6de7&dn=KFC-2014012900
DDR X3 vs 2nd Mix: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:a673dde5e520098c68e46aa8d3eebc5090c5c1e6&dn=KDX
Pop'n Music Sunny Park: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:39c2723689ee0daa9235908ab14faa65f1177cbd&dn=M39
Jubeat Saucer: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:b110377a3bfda2480c7124bb8388ba3bdc41f2ef&dn=L44-2014012802
>>12671298
Welp
I guess I'll be stuck just playing LR2 then
Not a secret club member here, have something like this happened before? (Someone goes full on nuke mode and posts every data on public forums)
>>12674690
Is this why people keep crying about sows being a sekrit klub?
>>12674690
!virus! don't click!
>>12673966
>>12673982
>>12674034
Why do you guys think that was Horo? If you read the pastebin you would have known that he knows at least basic moonrunes. He probably wouldn't say he google translated an email to konami if it was actually him. Just some idiot trying to dig someone elses hole deeper.
Food for thought
>>12674690
thanks now i can finally quit osu!!
Where can I buy a good set of metal pads?
>>12674648
Very nice setup, though it does look a bit cramped. Also what headphones are those?
Talking about the future of networks is kind of beside the point. What is actually at risk here is access to future releases if the current sources bail out.
Writing a network emulator is trivial compared to finding people with access to the data who are willing to put themselves at risk by sharing it.
>>12674835
For DDR? I've been looking for a while but there's nothing really good out there anymore.
>>12674943
I'd like to point out that there are at least three network emulators in existence for the latest games. Programmed Sun isn't the only network around.
>>12674948
WHY
>>12674690
Still no network though
>>12675052
This.
>>12668924
Sota obviously
>>12674148
By any chance are you talking about Yifans entertainment centre in Auckland?
>>12675125
fuck you 4chan for not accepting my attachment, your code is worse than mine
>>12675125
>>12675125
>>12675144
OH GOD, best fanart ever.
>>12675127
Yes
Are you Tuxdude?
>>12675151
yes
>>12675155
no, I'm Tuxdude
Horo your fp7 is the most weeb thing ever good lord
>>12675166
nah dude, that sounds very boring, sorry.
>>12675125
[email protected]
>>12675125
Getting pretty desperate here man
>>12674953
No there aren't
i love u sherl0k
can i sleep on your couch at some point in time
>>12675144
>>12675148
thanks for your contributions! if you have Facebook, visit the bemaniso Facebook page and message it with your email. I'll send you invites.
BTW I do this for anyone who asks for invites, both on reddit and irc.
you all take this shit far too seriously. just play the games, have fun, and respect the... what? 2 rules we have? or do you want to be put in the same group as that fucktard horo?
>>12675198
so thirsty
>>12675198
thirsty ass nigga
i want sows to go and stay go
>>12675214
#HoroLevelsOfMad
>>12675198
I <3 skub. I'd say it on sows, but I'm afraid you won't love me back. Saying it here is safer.
>>12675129
oh that actually is you then... wanna fuck at the next con you go to?
is this some meta funposting and this is actually sherl0k and tau
i really cant be sure
>>12675229
at least we go away from the drama shit.
>>12675229
we are both at Raj 3 staying at the same place, draw your own conclusions :)
>>12675229
The torrent stats match and l0k does trade invites for Cindy fanart so the story checks out.
Seriously guys, it's not that hard to get a sows invite if you know the right people or draw some Cindy art.
add skub on facebook: SSt.Ye
is sows where I can get a pcbid?
>>12675261
no, those come from psun.
>>12675271
then what does being in sows get you
>>12675273
arcins
>>12675273
the data. the two are split. logically this is dumb, but the admin teams of both sites just don't have the resources currently to put everything together under one roof. psun came way after bemaniso existed, and wasn't intended to be as big as it is now.
>>12675273
Fun
>>12675273
It grants access to this awesome forum where you get to shitpost and read posts by tuxdude where he talks about his surface pro or old ass IBM keyboard
>>12675273
fucked
