Visual Novel translation status
Amagami - 1st day patch Released for PS2/PSP, "1637/2308 original edition scenario scripts translated (74.8%)"
>AstralAir - prologue patch released, 57631/64880 (88.83%) lines translated
>Ayakashi Gohan - ~93% Complete
Clover Day's - Common + 3 routes done, other routes + 348/711 KB and 74/722 KB translated
>HaraKano - Patch with Common, Marina, Ayana, Ren and Kanna routes released.
Haruka Na Sora - Sora 11.29% translated, Kozue 23.73% translated
Harumade Kururu - 100% of the initial harem route + 25% common route translated
Hoka no Onna - 84.88% translated
Irotoridori no Sekai - 6523/50663 (13%) lines translated
Junketsu Megami-Sama - prologue patch released
Kiminozo - Common route translation complete, Haruka route 1st pass complete
>Kimomen demo Harem Guild - Released
>Koiken Otome - 100% translated and edited, 92.38% QC, prologue patch released
Koiseyo Imouto Banchou - 9% (3796/42627) lines translated
Kurukuru Fanatic - 100% translated, UI + Wordwrapping done
Lovely Cation- 31.6% of lines completed
Majikoi A-1 - 91.9%
>Majo Koi Nikki - 5014/40394 (12%) lines translated
Mahou Tsukai no Yoru - Commie project actively in editing
Mahou Tsukai no Yoru - 2nd project with 2.2 scripts translated
Mahou Tsukai no Yoru - 3rd project released ch 1-5
Monster girl quest paradox - Being translated, new partial patch released
Muv Luv Total Eclipse - 25% translated
Oreimo Tsuzuku - All scripts translated, 212/268 through TLC+Editing, 154/268 scripts finalized
SakuSaku - 100% through TLC
Sanarara - Project resuming
Sukimazakura to Uso no Machi - 10,082 / 30,513 Lines (33.0%) translated, partial patch released
Tokyo Necro - 1010/39657 lines translated
>Tsui Yuri - 36% (2132/5872) lines translated
Tsuki ni Yorisou Otome no Sahou - 9708/31248 (31%) translated
Witch's Garden - 47555/67201 (70.77%) lines translated, 3,426/67,201 (5.10%) edited, prologue patch released
Yosuga no Sora - Translation status is Common route 100%, Sora route 100%, Nao 100%, Kazuha 100%, Akira 89.73%, Motoka 32.17%, Common and Kazuha fully edited
Official work
MangaGamer
>Higurashi Hou - Released chapter 3
Umineko - Ch 1-4 July 8th release
Bokuten - 100% translated, 89% edited
Da Capo 3 - 97% translated, 95% edited
Myth - in scripting
Kuroinu - Being released as 3 seperate chapters, CH1 78% TL 18.13% edited
Supipara - Ch 1 in testing
Himawari - TL and editing finished, in scripting
Negai no Kakera - 100% translated, 8% edited
Princess Evangile W Happiness - 50% translated, 22.2% edited
Imouto Paradise 2 - 46% translated, 14.4% edited
Kyonyuu Fantasy - 100% TL+Edited, in scripting
Fata morgana fan disc - 12% translated
JAST
>Sonicomi - Golden Master
Sumeragi Ryoko - Beta, in preorder, script edit 20%
Django - Waiting on translation.
Flowers - Re-write/editing 40%, Beta 10%
Sweet Home - 100% translated, debugging script
Sumaga- Fully translated, in editing
Trample on Schatten- Translation 86%
Sekai/Denpa
Karakara - 6/27 release
>2236 A.D. - 62.77% translated
Maitetsu - 12.9% translated
Nenokami - 99.79% translated, Indiegogo started
>Koi to, Guitar to, Aoi Sora. - 77.7% translated
Kokonoe Kokoro - 100% translated, engine work
Creature to Koi Shiyo - 100% translated, engine work
>WEE 3 - 97.15% translated
>Chrono Clock - 19.19%
Narcissu 3rd - TL+Editing done
Narcissu 0 - 89.23% translated
Mayoi Hitsuji no Kajuen - 100% translated
>Tenshin Ranman - 29.99%
>Darekoi - 90.01% translated
Wagamama High Spec -Demo is 100% translated, 2016 release
>Hoshizora no Memoria - 13.86% translated
Memory's Dogma - 54.48% translated
>Grisaia trilogy - 2nd title June release, 3rd 35% translated
Fault Milestone 2 - Side Above released, GE still to come
Ley Line - picked up
Frontwing
>Corona Blossom - IGG project started, Vol 1 7/29 release
Sharin no Kuni - Kickstarter planned
Visual Arts
Tomoyo After - Through Steam GL
Little Busters - Picked up
Harmonia - Through Steam GL
Rewrite+ - Picked up
Angel Beats - 50% translated
Degica
>Hakuisei Aijou Izonshou - 7/7 release
>Muv Luv - 7/14 release
>Muv Luv Alternative - Winter release
Schwarzesmarken - Through Greenlight
Other
Zero Time Dilemma - Jun 28th release
Psycho-Pass: Mandatory Happiness - 9/13 release
Steins;Gate 0 - 2016 release
>Root Letter - 2016 release
Wish Tale of the Sixteenth Night - 100% translated + edited, in QC
Kyuuketsu Hime no Libra - Common + 50% of Mari route translated
Taisho Alice - Picked up
Love Sweets - Picked up
SubaHibi - Official release planned
Sora wo Aogite Kumo Takaku - Through Greenlight
Lucky Dog - Possible iOS released based on the ongoing text only fanTL
Work being done on a fanTL of Shin Koihime with hopes of getting it licensed
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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread
>>15421466
>>Sonicomi - Golden Master
Sonico is super cute!
The deardrops hardcopy has apparently started to show a quantity remaining(47) recently, meaning it'll probably be sold out sometime early next year. Also yes, I did forget my image the first time.
Top 5 Ranking: http://pastebin.com/erU80RnF
Popularity Sort: http://pastebin.com/RHCbKPai
Full Data Point List: http://pastebin.com/R97Y23GT
As always, this tracker is powered by anonymous like you, so post order numbers if you've got em'.
http://discuss.jastusa.com/discussion/254320/backlog-titles
More JASTUSA updates.
Ryoko is having QA problems.
Sweet Home has passed the prelim proofread stage. They're working on some tricky script parts before it moves into alpha testing.
Trample On Schatten should be in proofreading (so translation is completed I'm guessing?)
Django is still on hiatus.
Sumaga is still in editing.
>>15422016
>Sumaga is still in editing.
It'll be strange if it ever releases
I'm pretty sure it's the oldest title still on the VNTLS.
>Kimomen demo Harem Guild - Released
What a good month for nukige fans
What garbage.
>>15422311
Just like your post.
>>15422016
>Sumaga still in editing
>>15421464
Why didn't you also use an image from the nukige? It came out of nowhere, so people might miss it.
>>15422680
It's NSFW famalam.
>>15422714
>famalam
Don't fucking say that.
Not to mention that not every screenshot of the game is NSFW.
>>15422680
In general, for short nukige, I have generaly not gone out of my way to find a good title like image for the picture when vndb doesn't have one that isn't NSFW, especially when another title was released that week. Though this usually comes up with MG titles as opposed to fan translations. Thinking about it, this is probably something that I should reconsider, or at least put more effort looking for an image to use when it comes up.
>>15422680
Higurashi is best, deal with it.
So I played the Karakara demo yesterday. I had been expecting some Nekopara-tier garbage, but it was surprisingly well-written. If you were skipping it because it looks like lowest common denominator garbage, you should give the demo a try, it's a lot better than it looks.
>>15422427
I'm sure Jast will go bankrupt before we get to play it, anon.
>>15421464
Honestly VNTS, you're such a good person. I can't believe you've kept this up for all these years, especially as more undesirables have been browsing /jp/ with each passing summer.
>>15422778
All-ages titles are always crap. I will never ever read one.
>>15422925
Symphonic Rain was bretty good.
>>15422925
Clumsily written sex scenes that make up a tiny, tiny part of the VN and don't add anything to the story don't make anything better, anon.
>>15423060
They do make it better because it shows the intimate sides of the characters.
And for some games, they are the points.
>>15423060
What >>15423076 said.
First, they advance the relationship. Relationships are the point of routes.
Second, they reward you and keep your attention. How am I supposed to read on and on without jerking off?
>>15422925
>>15423076
>>15423139
Normally I'd agree, but there's an exception to every rule. And that exception is Fata Morgana.
>>15423076
>>15422925
Not all stories require intimate relationships, as there is such a thing as a normal friendship. I can understand if you are only reading VNs just to fap, but to write off all all-ages titles as crap is a bit presumptuous of you.
>And for some games, they are the points.
Yes, some games, not all games.
>>15423147
>Yes, some games, not all games.
Yes, and those games where it isn't the point are shit. Pretty simply concept, aniki.
>>15423147
>Not all stories require intimate relationships, as there is such a thing as a normal friendship
Those are mostly actual games (read JRPG), as opposed to visual novels.
>>15423147
All games benefit from sex scenes, because even normal friends can have sex.
>>15423168
No, >>15423161, >>15423139 here. Don't say normalfag shit. Sex is for couples.
>>15423176
Just trying to say that sex is always justified, it's a natural reaction between humans.
Even enemies can have sex in the form of rape.
Eroge will die when they forget its root, sex scenes.
>>15422016
>Trample On Schatten should be in proofreading (so translation is completed I'm guessing?)
Yes!
>Django is still on hiatus.
>Sumaga is still in editing.
Fuck!
>>15423076
I'm an advocate of 18+ games too, but this just grasping at straws. The majority of sex scenes are tacked on and sudden, adding only an awkwardly portrayed sense of physical intimacy. I'm hard-pressed to agree they meanfully further any sort of romantic relationship.
H-scenes are great because I can fap to them.
Unless I can't fap to them, then they're usually shit.
>>15423713
When are you ever not able to fap to H-scenes?
>>15423718
When they feature fetishes I am not personally interested in.
>>15423752
You haven't spent enough time here if such fetishes exist for you.
>>15423761
No anonymous, I just have taste.
>>15423812
Are you saying that people who enjoy all kinds of different food don't have taste? It's the same with porn.
>>15422024
I wouldn't be surprised if the tokyo necro fan tl releases sooner than jast sumaga
>>15423880
The fan tl will never be released as it will get picked up for an official localization if it progresses that far.
>>15423713
I don't know about you, but I don't always want to fap. When I do, I generally look for something that exists solely for that purpose. If the VN is actually half-decent, enough so to make me give a shit about the plot and the characters, a cringey, cliched, formulaic sex scene generally feels like a pointless distraction more than anything else. Not to say that sex scenes don't have their place, even in more 'serious' and plot-driven VNs, but their place sure as hell isn't in every VN ever.
>>15423989
>When I do, I generally look for something that exists solely for that purpose.
That's chinese porn games anonymous.
>>15423989
If a game teases my cock with females (that's all games except for homoshit), then a sex scene with said females is appropriate.
>>15423894
Which means it will never be released, at least not before everyone reaches N1
>>15424074
Pretty much how I felt about Root Double. I mean seriously the MC gets to live together with 2 osananajimi AND a haafu loli. The other MC is in a life death situation with two sexy oneesan types and a kouhai. This game shoulda been 18+ for sure
>>15424025
Sure, porn games, meaning games that actually are primarily porn. Not games with dozens of hours of dialogue and plot, with a few sex scenes thrown in towards the end. It'd take a pretty 'special' person to read something like that with fapping as a goal.
>>15424108
Not to mention the character designer is a H artist.
>>15424108
>>15424157
Maybe some day they will make an edition.
>>15424108
And don't forget all the psi powers are perfect for mindbreaking etc. MC could make all of them believe they were in luvvvvv but no he is a pure angel
>>15424212
He clearly states he can't look at Yuuri sexually. Not everyone is a pervert like you anon.
>>15424153
Anonymous, the amount of chinese porn games that come out each year that actually amount to "serious literature" that are also not all-ages and simultaneously have "porn shoved in" can be counted on one hand. There's literally more vapid all-ages shit that comes out that would be better with porn.
You should pick a better medium for your argument.
>>15424183
That will never happen. They make all-ages games to reach a new market outside their PC market normally. When they go PC market with an all-ages game there is zero incentive to make an adult version since for the publishers it would mean they''d compete with their own sales.
Now if an adult console system appears, they would probably do it to reach more customers.
>>15424274
It's the real deal to him at that moment so that doesn't really change anything.
>>15424259
>Not everyone is a pervert like you anon.
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>>15422854
Surprisingly, they somehow got Kio Nachi to write it, so it's not too surprising that the writing is actually good.
>>15424282
But it does.
>>15424282
It's explicitly stated at some point that Natsuhiko felt no lust towards Yuuribecause he couldn't touch her. Which is still dumb - I can't touch Yuuri either, and I feel lust towards her!
>>15424108
No, it clearly shouldn't have been. The entire point of B route was that Natsuhiko didn't fully trust his friends, let alone get intimate enough with them to get into a sexual relationship. Not to mention his mindset is entirely unfit for that kind of relationship:
>But to the very end, Natsuhiko was merely exerting conscious control over his interpersonal relations to live a fulfilling school life.
>He tried not to make any needlessly deep relationships and he didn't want to reveal too much about his private life, either.
>Natsuhiko: (That's just tiring.)
Only after the end of the entire story was he in any condition to have a sexual relationship with one of the heroines. (I suppose an H-scene during the epilogue could've fit in.)
For Watase, it would be even more ridiculous. They're constantly under a strict time limit; there's even a bad end for taking just a bit too long! He just never has a chance to sex them up even if he wanted to. His relationships with the other characters also isn't the kind that would lead to sex; Jun kinda hates him until he loses his memories, he didn't meet Ena until the incident (and generally any girl having sex with an unknown man within hours of first meeting him is considered a slut), and the Kazami's wavering trust towards Watase is an important element of the story. After the story they're obviously fucking like rabbits, but the epilogue would be the only place they'd be able to fit an H-scene in.
I'd love to see some Salyu or Yuuri porn, but it should be outside of the story because it just wouldn't fit.
>>15424212
It would be a completely different story at this point. You want a mindbreak/hypnosis nukige with Root Double-like ESP, not an 18+ Root Double.
>>15424157
Admittedly, the art does tease the player quite often. There needs to be porn of Root Double.
Admittedly, there was one part of the story where an H-scene would have been entirely justified:The part where Azumi has sex with Alice. Though the whole thing is presented as a report and would have to be rewritten in a more direct perspective, but I think that might improve it in general.
>>15424546
One random H scene between side characters during a flashback would have been jarring.
No way, someone's using spoiler function for actual spoilers. This is new to me.
>>15424554
It's a matter of execution. Sakurai can do H-scenes with only side characters that add to the story, so theoretically it should be possible for other writers as well. But we all know that in practice it's extremely rare for H-scenes to add anything of interest to the story instead of just being the same copypasta all over again.
>>15424483
I had forgotten about that, but I still can't accept such a retarded explanation.
>>15424583
It's kind of sad that this is the state of modern /jp/. We used to actually spoiler-tag our spoilers, in contrast to /a/ userbase who considered it funny to spoil random stuff. That former /a/ userbase is now /jp/'s current userbase.
>>15424652
> Try to use CTRL-S spoiler tags.
> Literally doesn't work for some reason.
Weird.Testing spoiler.
>>15424554
You mean like the one random H scene which is literally the first one of Seinarukana?
>>15424483
>and generally any girl having sex with an unknown man within hours of first meeting him is considered a slut
Senpai we are dealing with eroge logic, don't bring your real world thinking into this. There's time for teary confessions and goodbyes and zettai zettai wasurenaiyo~ while the clock is ticking, but no time for h scenes?
>>15424274
Is this spoilers or something?
>>15424777
>>15424777
No reason to care, I will never play that all-ages shit anyway.
>>15424777
Indeed they are. Untagged, courtesy of modern /jp/.
>>15424759
They were retarded as well, particularly in the true ending's final farewell.They have what, 10 minutes? Every comment you make decreases their chances of survival, get the fuck out of here already.The story would've been better off if they'd cut down on that stuff a bit.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2016-06-19/5pb-head-wants-to-make-erotic-chaos-head-chaos-child-game/.103387
>>15425055
5pb will never greenlight it.
>>15425055
That would require 5pb to go PC.
>>15425210
Chaos;Child has a PC release. If they really wanted to, they could do an 18+ patch/expansion, or do an 18+ version of a future title in addition to a console release (which doubles as a way to resell the PC release later after a console release). Not that there is any reason to expect them to do so any time soon despite those comments.
>>15425210
I don't see why that should stop them, many console developers are moving to PC and are starting to do multi platform releases. A few years ago no one expected to see Neptunia on PC either and look at how well it is doing now.
https://omochikaeri.wordpress.com/2016/06/19/june-2016-eroge-releases/
>KARAKARA
>KARAKARA is a joint crowdfunding project between new studio calme and Sekai Project, released first in English on Steam, then in Japanese in late July.
>Probably the worst idea for the entire eroge industry. The absolute last thing we need for a genre of games that are already going downhill is american / english speaking weebs dictating market trends. If this trend continues I am sad to say it may be time to euthanize the entire industry. Maybe China can replace Japan since the Japanese seem so intent on emulating Dodos.
He's right, you know.
>>15425261
Welcome to Dovac's brave new world.
>>15425324
>crowdfund everything
>changing status quo
>>15425246
I wish the publisher would put the rest of Neptunia on GOG.
>>15425055
> Dead fisheye sex.
> Takumi fucking the girls despite being totally schizo for the first 3/4ths of the game.
I'd eagerly await it.
>>15425261
It's also buggy piece of shit http://steamcommunity.com/app/487430/discussions/0/358415206091181642/
>>15425324
Dovac is turning into a second Hitler.
Someone off him. The VN market would actually be healthy at this point if he didn't shove all that OELVN crap down our throats while making a fool of himself, killing most people's interest in anything.
Why is the quality of monthly VN releases going downhill so sharply in Nippon? I still have a grotesquely massive backlog, but the severe lack of good-great VNs released within the last few years is rather astonishing, given the quantity released.
I can enjoy my moege, but that's like, all there really is at this point, and when they try to make something with a coherent, vaguely exciting plot, it falls flat on it's face. Eventually, I'm going to run out of markedly decent plotge/chunnige/nakige from the 90s, on. Damn shame, considering I learned moon specifically for this industry.
Worse yet, Dovac and co. are starting to create even worse abominations, an unholy fusion between two incompatible cultures - the modern West, and Japan. Look at Huniepop - is there a game that better qualifies to be remotely deleted from existence and memory?
At least I'll still have my CGDCT... but maybe they'll all be strippers, prostitutes, sluts, or worse instead of pure virgins, unmarred by the harshness of reality and a third dimension.
I guess in a few more years it might be time to start reading actual books. Dated ones, but I'm sure I can find some material from the 1950s or earlier that treats women like women and men like men.
>>15425548
Shit changes man. Might also be worth considering when the companies you tend to like released their last game, sometimes stuff ends up clustering up so you get a bunch of good shit and then a few years of nothing
>>15425548
When you've run out of good things to read translate them to share the love.
>>15425324
The status quo is obviously changing, and though Sekai Project is arguably the largest cause of the change, the main change will be seen in the Japanese companies. You are starting to see companies plan to localization during development, taking into account Western taste and factoring into development how to make their 18+ titles steam ready. I'm sure there are projects scheduled for release next year in Japan that already have a localization team involved (or two, with a Chinese TL as well). This is before even looking at a company like Frontwing which is very heavily getting involved in the Western market and companies trying to cash into their back catalogue through the Western market.
You will also see far more short developed for Steam titles made just because they have lower development costs and if they take off can do ridiculously well.
I have to hand it to Bamboo, he was doing nearly everything correct to account for the Western market years ago, he just was years before it became viable. But if you want to see how a Japanese company might act towards seeing the West as a new source of revenue, Overdrive is a good example.
>>15425548
That's just June being shit. Usually every month there's at least one or two things to be hyped for. Last month Sakura no Mori Dreamers, in July Baldr Heart, in September Sen no Hatou and new Mareni etc.
>>15425638
The nightmare scenario is obviously pretty terrifying (full EOP pander), but I don't believe it'll happen. For one, only few companies go the Western route now and its mainly those with previously released official translations or with fantranslated games. Take Grisaia, for example, its fantranslation was a rare thing for EOPs and became a big deal. That paved a way for the official release. Some other random games cant really achieve the same success now, when Steam is being filled with quickly made cash grabs. Secondly there'll also be correction from Japanese fans. Go too deep with EOP pander and they'll dislike the game, ser Chrono Clock. So in the end I believe things will be fine.
>>15426251
With regards to Dovac's status quo argument, while there will surely be some Steam pandering, especially in the short term, it's probably cost effective for a fair number of titles to include an English TL even with no Western pandering. This is especially true if they aren't working through a third party that will take a cut, as MG people have said the break even point is quite low in terms of products sold, and that is with their smaller cut.
Is there such a thing as a kamige moege?
>>15426386
Yes.
>>15426251
I have such mixed feelings. On one hand, it's great to get more VNs, but on the other hand, what comes along with EOPs are SJWs. Those bastards can't enjoy anything but love to fucking complain. And the Japanese, being weak-hearted as they are, tend follow along with the loudest complainers. It doesn't help that English translators seem to think that it's okay to remove all mention of Japanese culture in the games they translate.
Whatever happened to the SubaHibi TL? Wasn't that supposed to be finished a long time ago?
>>15426419
Yeah shitty SJWs being loud or even becoming translators is one real danger.
>>15426419
I can't wait for meme translations like the FE: Fates/Birthright ones.
> Let's all eat some <burgers> under the <tablecloth>!
> Yay I love <burgers>!
Pretty much the quality level right there.
I eagerly await our 12-year-old French girl overlords, if only so I can kill myself with no regrets.
>>15426386
It's called Osadai.
>>15426419
I doubt the JP companies will really care about SJWs, if anything they'd just release "edited" versions for the West but still give Japan what they want. The elevens got pretty mad when Star Ocean 5 got minimal changes because of fear of Western backlash, a market as small and niche as VN/eroge players isn't going to take to such things being changed.
There's nothing that can be done about shoddy translations, of course. The only thing to do about that is TL yourself or pray that no retards get ahold of a good game's translation.
If the amount of people begging for 18+ titles/versions is any indication, it doesn't seem like even the Western market will take well to getting edited content unless the title manages to be extremely popular. For example, if Maitetsu bombs I think it'll be a good show to the Japanese that people don't want to buy lolige without the ero.
>>15426771
> don't want to buy lolige without the ero.
You don't understand. They'll interpret it as us not wanting lolige, not wanting the full content. Just think about it.
>>15426830
You need to tell them otherwise.
Lose is easily accessible. Go to some eroge-related event where they have a booth, wait till the initial rush of people dies down and just talk them up.
what am i reading
>>15426887
sekai qualitty
I've been out of the loop, will Grisaia be censored or not? I recall a lot of people arguing that it would back when the trilogy was picked up.
>>15427475
Grisaia is censored upon initial release, with an uncut release down the line. While initially expected to be a 1 month wait, for the first title, this was a 3 month wait. The second title is about to come out censored and it remains to be seen how long it takes to be released uncut.
>>15427523
Alright, thanks.
>>15425324
Status quo changing can be a good thing if the final result doesn't mean weak and censored products.
But obviously can't see that far ahead.
>>15428124
Honestly what we really need is either a third party service through JList, Nutaku (with their problems fixed), or something else like either of these, to take off as decent traffic site for 18+ titles. Steam allowing uncut releases beyond just a patch on the forums would also work. For the moment, most new efforts are trying to include an uncut release because of the vocal part of the community (though it's anyone's guess how many of Sekai big titles are getting an uncut release). But the truth is, unless you are going after kickstarter where that vocal crowd is powerful, the Steam market is just fine with all ages only releases. In addition, making your own platform to cash in on uncut releases is generally not going to be worth it and Japan will eventually realize that it is more trouble then it's worth. Thus the best way to avoid this would be to have some sort of default third party platform with meaningful sales for the Japanese companies to say "All ages goes on Steam, 18+ goes on that other platform".
Hopefully Sekai will go bankrupt.
OELVN trash, censored and crowdfunding, you can't get all that cancer and live.
The problem is, certain very good stories, require 18+ to tell their stories, and to deal with very difficult subject matter.
As long as the 18+ stuff is censored for mass release, the writers will see that, and it will consciously or unconsciously bias what they write and publish. As long as writers don't censor themselves that way, I'm happy
>>15428607
As long as Japan isn't extinct, the 18+ games will always be a thing.
God bless Nippon!
>>15428607
Kikokugai was shit
>>15428628
It worked better as an example because rape was a central part of the story.
It was less so in Saya and Phantom of Inferno
>>15428619
18+ games are a thing in the west too, the idea that the west hates sex is wrong. It's just feminists and the big media that is against it.
If you look around a bit you should be able to find lots of English h games and some of their developers with patron accounts manage to get a lot more money then some all age VNs and OELVNs.
>>15428687
Cal fucking Ryo with a gun is a pretty central part of the story.
Zwei and Eien consummates their marriage in a church is a pretty central part of the story.
In fact, I'm saddened that the all-ages cut all that shit.
>>15428745
>Eien
Should mean Ein/Eren*
>>15428701
"Gomenasai", but I only care about games from Japan!
>>15428770
Was just using it as a example to show the west does want 18 + stuff and is willing to pay for it. I guess we can use NekoPara too, its is among the top selling VNs in the west and has a 18+ version and a restoration patch. That alone shows us that the west at last wants to see catgirls get fucked.
What I want is an answer to is why companies are willing to give up 30% to steam, but not willing to promote their own stores with 20% discounts.
If it was a well known fact that going to the publishers stores were cheaper, it would increase traffic by a lot and profits would follow.
>>15429040
That's why I told MangaGamer to match or make it $1 cheaper than Steam on their own stores.
>>15429040
>What I want is an answer to is why companies are willing to give up 30% to steam, but not willing to promote their own stores with 20% discounts.
Visibility. The ones who would mainly take notice of these discounts are ones who are already familiar with VNs and thus MG.
>If it was a well known fact that going to the publishers stores were cheaper, it would increase traffic by a lot and profits would follow.
If companies did that steam fags would complain a lot and thus Valve would eventually take notice of this. From their eyes it would look that MG in this case was using them mainly to promote themselves. The more likely result of this is Valve terminating their relationship.
>>15429040
The problem comes down to a fair few people won't buy anything unless it is on steam along with it being convenient to have all your games on one distribution platform.
Plus just being on steam gives a big boost to exposure even if it only on the new release list for a day or two, meaning it picks up some impulse buys.
>>15429396
>Visibility. The ones who would mainly take notice of these discounts are ones who are already familiar with VNs and thus MG.
Yes, but people who know it is cheaper at MG will direct people to MG, and they will find games that are not on Steam, and MG increase sales.
>>15429403
Hence the discount. Now they can go for ease of purchase, or save money. It is like travelling to the super market instead of your closest store. You choose convenience or money.
>>15429465
If "We have the 18+ version" doesn't drive people to MG on 18+ titles, why would "it is a bit cheaper" drive people to MG? When people are aware there is an 18+ version they overwhelming go for that even if it costs more, the problem is the lack of people knowing that. For example, just look at this from Corona Blossom, the only difference between these two tiers is one has the 18+ patch, and yet it has nearly 10 times the amount of pledges despite costing more than twice as much.
>>15429577
It is 7 dollars to tell them they should focus on adult games. A fairly cheap price, isn't it? Beats paying 40 just to tell them to keep making them. (While you had no interest in that title but want a future title)
>>15429577
And then dovac says people dont want 18 +, well fuck you too dovac.
>>15429623
> Fucking dovac.
Wow, you have shit taste in men anon.
>>15429623
The problem isn't that people don't want the 18+ version, but rather until they can link the 18+ version on the Steam main page for a game the off site 18+ release doesn't drive meaningful traffic. If you could release both an all ages and 18+ version on Steam with giving equal visibility ot the 18+ version, as long as it was $10 or less of an increase in price the 18+ version would be the bigger seller every time.
>>15425324
>>15425261
>The absolute last thing we need for a genre of games that are already going downhill is american / english speaking weebs dictating market trends.
Oh please. Sekai Project are essentially the biggest reason for this downfall of VNs, what with all the "OELVNs" and shit.
You marketed your OELVNs so heavily that you admittedly managed to spur a great flame that burned bright. But now that's also the typical level of quality that your average non-invested, non-weeb/nerd would associate VNs with. And that if anything is the reason you're seeing a downwards trend.
Not invested nerds clamoring for real deal story and or fetishy porn games. Because niche or not those titles tend to be of quality. Not this race to the bottom bottom-feeder trash that you yourself have flooded the market with.
>>15429661
>until they can link the 18+ version on the Steam main page for a game the off site 18+ release
Uhuh
Labyrinth got leaked https://twitter.com/AppsPc/status/744912210468601857
>>15429834
That is the most fake looking site I ever saw, but nice try dovac.
>>15429717
> Oh please. Sekai Project are essentially the biggest reason for this downfall of VNs, what with all the "OELVNs" and shit.
This, there was temporary fascination with Nekopara, Go Go Nippon, etc. selling like hotcakes on Steam that built interest in VNs, but SP saw this and oversaturated the market with crap, making normalfags think that ALL VNs were crap.
In fact, one of the biggest issues with Steam right now is that there's so much utter shit made by a basement dweller in 5 minutes that have ridiculously inflated reviews on Steam in the quest for more profit. There's no adequate searching or parsing tools to seperate the bad from the good, and that's hurting every market on Steam because consumers can't easily find stuff they're vaguely interested in like they could in the past.
It's not just VNs. It just so happened that VNs were an empty market on Steam.
>>15429867
>He doesn't trust King Kong
>>15429868
Normalfags always thought anime stuff was crap. Why would you even want that kind of people around your hobby?
And Steam is doing a fine job of selecting what games we buy through sales. Who needs a search function when everyone knows the only thing selling is in the sales section.
>>15429396
>If companies did that steam fags would complain a lot and thus Valve would eventually take notice of this
It's actually more than that. When you put a game on Steam, part of what you're agreeing to is to offer parity with Steam. They don't care so much about occasional sales, but if all your products were always more expensive on Steam (for an identical product), Valve would bitch at you and demand you change it.
So Sekai Project released a game today with no prior notice of its release date and didn't even tweet about it or anything. It's pretty amazing how incompetent their marketing is and they are lucky their partners don't know enough to realize poorly they are handling it.
>>15430745
It has an impressive translation too
>>15430810
>>15430745
It's all ages, who cares?
>>15430810
>She is very logical and rarely shows no emotion.
Is she a /jp/sie or what?
>>15430745
I think Dovac was streaming him playing it during E3. So it was probably announced then.
>>15429623
>>15429577
I don't think Corona Blossom is the best example to show the demand for 18+ versions. It's managed to raise less than $24k in well over two weeks; there's a grand total of 438 buyers so far. This is a pretty clear indication it's only known about in the core fanbase (of which it's already been established they prefer 18+ versions) and simply hasn't managed to reach the broader userbase. When the top results for 'Corona Blossom' beyond the official website are Visualnoveler and LewdGamer, you know you're lacking exposure.
AX schedule up (times Pacific)
MangaGamer - 10:45pm Friday July 1st
Jast - 11:15pm Saturday July 2nd
Sekai - 8:00pm Sunday July 3rd
MangaGamer: Shigeo Hamashima - Q&A - 10:15pm Sunday
I don't see anything for Frontwing, while Degica in their AX update for Muv Luv noted that their announcements would be at their Booth.
>>15431060
Missed it initially, add to this
nbkz Q&A - 12:15pm Monday July 4th
>>15431060
>>15431083
Nothing about Bamboo?
>>15429577
>>15430907
Jesus, those sales numbers and prices.
And the writer is a nukige writer. What's even the point of the non-H version?
I guess with practices like these I can feel safe knowing VNs will never catch on in the West.
>>15431087
He'll be at the MG panel.
>>15431089
A multi volume cheap short 18+ title that advertises its use of e-mote with good art. It's their attempt to copy Nekopara, and Nekopara has a Steam version that was largely responsible for it's success, so a copy needs one too.
>>15431060
>>15431083
One more to add
Sayori panel for Sekai
9:15pm Sunday July 3rd (so right after the Sekai panel)
A 5th AX announcement was added to MangaGamer's announcements page
Corona Blossom's art is too anime-y for the faux weebs at Steam. Good luck trying to make that the next Nekopara. One of the main reasons of its success is Sayori's art.
>>15430839
Nah, she's a hyper emotional girl who breaks down crying when she sees an insect.
Thank you ESLs.
>>15431109
>it's success
its
>people on /v/ are actually excited for the butchered Steam Muv-Luv
>>15431918
The porn was mediocre and inconsequential, except for maybe when Meiya is talking to you at the end of Extra.
Still not gonna buy anything that was censored when I can just as easily buy the uncensored version.
Apparently Aroduc's working on Duel Savior.
>>15432030
Everyone will just download the patch that will restore all of it anyway.
>>15432052
Yeah, but sales speak louder than user reviews or complaints.
If 10,000 people all buy the censored version and patch it to uncensor it, and 1,000 buy the uncensored, all that's just saying is "Oh wow people really like the censored version, this is clearly the larger market we should cater towards."
>>15432030
Exactly. I don't give a shit about ero in my VNs since I can get better shit on sad panda in two seconds. Its about getting the original work in all its glory. Not butchered shit.
>>15432062
I like ero in VNs just as kind of a release, even if I don't fap to them it's better than the game just teasing it.
>>15431918
> butchered
Translated text + no ero >>>>>>> ixwrecked text with ixwreck ero.
>>15432315
Yeah but why go for the no ero censored option when the full thing is right next door? Steam isn't the only sales platform.
June 21 is a day to remember. Kouryuu finished DC3 translation
>>15433055
And it only took him what, 2 years?
>>15431918
Honestly, I don't like non-ero versions, but I absolutely hated the ero in Alternative so I'd take the all-ages version of that.
Unlimited had some good CGs for fapping, though. I'm a backer so I'll just wait for the uncut versions before I re-read the games, or the Vita ports.
Of course if they lied about the 18+ versions or meant that things other than sex scenes will be included, I'll be upset, but there's nothing I can do about it now. Gotta wonder why anyone would want the fan-discs without ero, though.
Anything more on the girsaia series?
Sekai project and front wing,
June 15th labyrinth of grisaia was in final qa checks
http://store.steampowered.com/app/483960/
Is it bad that I want this? I don't really want Frontwing to get the impression that we want this kind of games over decent stuff like Island.
>>15433304
Haven't you played Hunniepop? Dear god, was it horrible.
>>15433055
Guess I should start reading DC1, huh?
>>15433304
It is moe, of course you want it. But moe with ero would be even better.
>>15433468
They have an ero patch on their website
>>15433082
I'm not sure when he started translating it, but they announced it at Otakon 2013, same time they announced Princess Evangile
>>15433422
Likewise, I should really start on DC2. Although it probably wouldn't topSakura's route implying she killed a guy with her psychic powers in her childhood.
>>15433304
>I don't really want Frontwing to get the impression that we want this kind of games over decent stuff like Island.
Sharin should do well enough for them to indicate to them that story titles can do well. Also Island at the very least should happen regardless as they'll see it as a way to cash in on the upcoming anime.
>>15434040
Unless Sharin is censored.
>>15434073
They already confirmed that Sharin will have an uncut patch (although they also said it might cost extra)
>>15425548
Saturated market meaning you can't take risks.
>>15431243
Escalayer?
>>15434368
Anything Alicesoft, especially if it is not Rance, is far more likely to be at Otakon then AX. Their AX lineup is likely to be dominated by new partners and titles from their guests.
>>15434381
This. It'll be 3 new partner VNs, maybe 1 from existing partners, and a hardcopy/drama CD of something.
>>15434600
I doubt they'd get into more drama CDs before they finish seeing how Kindred Spirits' does. And they're likely done with hard copies at the moment.
>>15434600
It might be 2 new partners with one of them announcing 2 games. It's the same thing that happened with Propeller last year.
>>15434600
>>15434731
did they announce that Fata Morgana fandisc or whatever was pretty much announced by the game?
>>15434891
They announced that at Anime Central.
>>15434891
>>15434895
It was announced in game during the backstage and it was announced at AC.
But it was announced in the game first and everyone knew about it before AC.
>>15435433
The AC announcement was sort of the "official" one since the easter egg at the end of the game wasn't really going to get widespread notice.
The Labyrinth of Grisaia is now listed for release 12 hours from now, as the rush to get titles out before the Summer Sale continues. Though probably a few months before they get to the uncut release.
Seems like A-1 is out.
>>15436627
I love meme filled machine translations so I have been eagerly waiting for this. I hope it quotes Big Bang Theory again because that is an uproarious joke.
>>15436642
bozango
ChuSingura46+1 is back, under a new company
http://store.steampowered.com/app/464780/
>>15436780
> Free To Play
What.
>>15436801
It's apparently only contains Chapter 1.
>>15436780
NextNinja this time, they look to be a Japanese mobile company so not another Japan Contents (unless of course Japan Contents was nothing more than a NextNinja brand, which wouldn't surprising).
>>15436821
When JC guy wrote about mobage, he later explained that he saw mobile version being developed on monitors of their devs, so I'm pretty sure its same company.
>>15436780
What a bizarre world we live in.
>>15436780
Glad they didn't feel the need to translate all this pointless text. Also this engine is pretty bad, just a straight mobile port, without features you might normally find common in games, like any keyboard shortcuts at all, or using the scroll wheel.
>>15436855
Everything seems horrible except the script which is much better than I had expected (although that was a low bar, and it still looks rushed with editing/QC in spots)
>>15436821
NextNinja was listed as system development on all their failed Kickstarters.
>>15436780
Those reviews made me cringe. I can't believe there are people who use "feels" unironically.
>>15434600
>drama CD
KnS Drama CD when?
We need more heroes like him. https://twitter.com/BananasplitM/status/745568161441918976
>>15436780
Some Japanese vs English comparisons were done through the Fuwanovel thread, and not surprisingly there were non-H CGs were toned down or just had the images removed, and there were non-H dialogue edits for scenes with some suggestive references. Also the character portraits were removed in the dialogue box, likely because of engine problems.
>>15422427
>>15422016
>>15422024
Still highschool student, heard fan TL pick sumaga.
University student heard jast pick sumaga.
Finished university and become company slave sumaga still in editing.
Reminder that Moogy is insane.
>>15438064
Nice tweet anon, i'll follow you because you are so cool.
All ages Grisaia no Meikyuu is out, though seems that the changes are more extensive then last time as Doddler and Herkz have posted that some jokes were toned down and 5 of the short stories were removed, in addition to the expected H related changes.
>>15439186
The changes aren't really any more drastic than the original though.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Hj0hZXCknqgMvSEz8dX7A6kMVgF6xuSYyYIBW0xf1ag/viewform
what dumb shit did you ask /jp/?
>>15439203
At the very least the changes to Grisaia no Meikyuu seem to be large enough that the editor for the project Herkz, who normally wouldn't care about the removal of H content, is suggesting people hold off until the uncut release despite the extra CGs added to the all ages release.
>>15439258
Herkz is openly hostile against everything... I can't imagine someone hired on a project would be campaigning for people not to buy it.
>>15439285
I thought dovac fired him because of the Frontwing incident.
>>15439186
The jokes got the same treatment in the first game. The difference is that this is a fandisc with a bunch of sex focused stories. Doddler and koestl say its fine and their opinion is infinitely more valuable than herkz's.
>>15439250
I like the MangaGamer staff. It's like talking to actual people!
>>15439390
It's not like they'll use any particularly stupid or hardball questions anonymous.
>>15439302
Frontwing incident, did I miss something ?
>>15439582
I think he means those IRC logs of herkz talking a bunch of shit about Frontwing.
>>15439390
Actual idiotic shit eaters.
>>15439617
Woah, there, buddy. I said MangaGamer not Sekai. Please don't get them confused.
>>15439626
Sekai are lying shit guzzling fuckfaced troglodytes.
I hope MangaGamer does a collector's edition of Venus Blood when they announce it.
>>15439651
There's no chance that they'd announce that title at AX or Otakon. Kyonyuu Fantasy was a better pick up and it wasn't even announced at them. I doubt we'll see much if any nukige announced, especially with AX's anti-18+ content policies this year.
>>15439651
Why would they when Aroduc's translating it and he hates Mangagamer?
>>15439703
MG, Jast, and Shigeo Hamashima's panel are all age checked 18+ panels. The new regulations limit what can be sold out in the open in the exhibit hall, and have no bearings on what a panel can announce. Even if there was such a limitation, it would merely mean they would have to take that into consideration when showing promo material at the panel.
That said, I do agree that the amount of nukige announced will be limited considering they gave Anime Central the Kyonyuu Fantasy announcement. However, a Clock Up announcement at AX seems very likely considering they have Shigeo Hamashima at AX and doing a panel, and an Alicesoft announcement at Otakon wouldn't be a surprise either.
>>15429717
>>15429868
VNs are still selling way better than they did a couple of years ago. I mean back in the day most MG releases were lucky to sell a couple hundred copies.
Though I will say that probably the worst thing SP did was push the perception on Steam that VNs are "budget" games. It's almost impossible to explain to the normalfags on Steam that just because a 3-hour long VN sold for ten bucks doesn't mean a 40-hour long one will too, seems like they get really fucking mad if anything sells above that price point.
>>15439832
They don't think any VN should cost more than $20.
>>15439872
Or any game really.
>>15439953
VN in particular really. Pretty much any game $30 or more you see a bunch of topics "Thirty bucks for a BOOK!?!" like they've never heard of such a thing before. I think the rush of bargain price VNs really poisoned the market in that regard.
Purino Party is out, as another release before the chaos of the summer sale, although it might be too close to avoid all the issues. Karakara on the other hand is still scheduled to be released during the middle of the sale.
Frontwing promoting their X-RATED Patch right on the top of the Steam store page is pretty damn blatant.
Fair amount of activity on the Steam page (reviews and forum) for Purino Party, so it's probably selling decently.
>>15440942
It's ahead of Grisaia no Meikyuu on the recent best sellers list for the moment.
Now that I've finished the first girl's "route", I gotta say the game is pretty mediocre, so I agree with the mixed reception it's getting on Steam.
The match-3 gameplay is basic (no special items or anything) but manages to be ridiculously unbalanced because of the high winning conditions coupled with time/turn limits. It's clearly just there as an excuse to attract Huniefags and didn't have a lot of thought put into it. Thankfully, every time you fail you can lower the winning conditions, which at the latest "levels" has you losing on purpose 5 or 6 times until the thing is actually possible, and that's if the RNG decides to be nice to you.
After a match there's a short VN segment with the usual silly ecchi banter, at least for this girl. The translation (if it's even a translation, since this is an English-only release) is great. After one of these VN segments, a CG and its variations unlock at the gallery. I assume these CGs are from Pure Girl and Innocent girl. After a total of 5 short VN segments you're done with the girl.
There are no actual H scenes, no girls moaning or anything of the like. The hentai CGs are definitely better than that Huniepop shit but when they don't come with an actual hentai scene or dialogue, the whole thing feels pointless.
I can see a lot of people refunding the game after giving it a 1-hour negative review, and to be honest I'm not going to be sorry for Frontwing for that.
>>15439742
Why would it be a surprise?
Is there actually anything at all that suggests another Alicesoft announcement?
No pictures can be taken of Hamashima http://ask.fm/MangaGamerStaff/answers/137208146674?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=answer_own#_=_
>>15441596
Is Hamashima really a woman?
>>15441439
It appears Haruka has done well, and Alicesoft has plenty of other titles that would interest MG even if Rance is still a no go.
http://steamcommunity.com/games/464780/announcements/detail/584721619396545071
New Dev comments on ChuSingura46, in short no uncut release, regarding bugs they will "try fix as many problems as possible" and they note here that it's a trial, something still omitted from the main page. It also says that that "in the future we will release more chapters" and that more info about this will come later. Though it's poorly worded enough that it's hard to tell if they were just saying that the full release is going to come later, or if they are planning some kind of chapter by chapter DLC mobile style release.
>>15441931
Why are Japanese devs wilfully bringing this kind of crap over
>>15441974
Because Japanese devs have started to see the western market as a bunch of idiots that will buy just about anything.
>>15441327
The VN segments are cute though, as are the girls. I can't honestly tell if those segments were written for Purino Party or if they were wholesale lifted from the original. I actually expected complete asset flip, but at least some of the voice from the girl that gives you the tutorial must be new since she directly references the puzzle game in her dialog.
Anyways, if the VN segments are straight from the original, then I'm sad we didn't just get those games directly, because they're actually pretty enjoyable, and the girls are weird in pretty great ways.
>>15441996
They missed that we are not willing to pay any price.
>>15442106
They think everything has to be around $10 to be successful. I can't way to see the wave of garbage that comes from this perception.
>>15442124
That's not surprising considering the cheapskate Steam mentality
>>15442124
Your profits determine if you are succesful. The question is if selling 1000 games for 10 dollars is better than 200 at 50 dollars.
You also have to remember that 10 dollars non-ero VNs are not selling all that well.
>>15441931
>It is a non hentai/sex scene version of the game and will remain so as well. Were sorry to disappointing some fans on this matter.
Absolutely fucking disgusting. Seeing a japanese developer being more than eager to censor their games just do pander to Steam regulations and telling all the people that want the original content intact to fuck off is the epitome of lack of respect not only for themselves, but for the medium as well.
They should burn.
>>15441596
>>15441600
Why is she so shy ?
>>15442173
They are probably just porn haters who wanted to make some cool money by joining the VN business because they saw titles on PS Vita.
>Also regarding this game version. It is a non hentai/sex scene version of the game and will remain so as well. Were sorry to disappointing some fans on this matter.
Fuck them. I know 18+ content in eroge can be pretty shitty but for this one it's a eroge with a lot of sex scenes and characters. People who worked on it wanted to sexualize the girls since the beginning, just look at their fucking outfits.
I want the all-ages era to end now, it's not that difficult to make a x-rated patch for people who wants to enjoy the original version of the VN.
>>15442189
She probably doesn't want stalker otaku to know what she looks like.
>>15439371
Nah, man. Doddler and Koestl are all business like and shit while herkz is a neet like us. Count on him to tell you the cruel truth
>>15441931
How the hell did they get on Steam for something so half-assed?
>>15442297
Take a look at some of the really low priced games on steam.
>>15442354
Wasn't that through Greenlight though? The ChuSingura publisher seems to be new to Steam. What exactly is the criteria to be on Steam? I thought they used to have standards (minus Greenlight).
https://steamcommunity.com/app/464780/discussions/0/358415738180208264/
Well, somebody made some very good points here about this shitfest.
>>15442371
Bad Rats wasn't through greenlight
>>15439651
>Venus Blood series
>Ever translated
Go beg to Aroduc
>>15442392
why would he translate Venus Blood when he is unwilling to translate Himegari due to content?
>>15442392
Well I'm going to laugh at you all once MangaGamer finally announces it and while it may not be this year it will happen in the coming years without a doubt.
