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Is Studio Work Overrated As Fuck?
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To begin a legit studio career, I need a degree for a work visa. Sitting in my chair earlier today, and witnessing yet another fight between my parents, and I'm just sick of it. Don't know if I can stand several more years of that while I work on the degree.

Should I just go for a comfy freelance career? I think I'm just going to learn some programming and get a job that can support me living in an apartment, and then work on my art to git gud for freelance work.

Working for Wizards of the Coast, Marvel, DC, Dark Horse, Applibot etc. Sounds really comfy and rewarding too, they pay pretty decently.

Should I just stop giving a shit about some studio career in California?
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>Working for Wizards of the Coast, Marvel, DC, Dark Horse, Applibot etc.

protip your almost certainly not going to work for these guys starting out, you'll most likely start at 100$ jobs for 16 hours + illustrations .

>Should I just go for a comfy freelance career?

there is no such thing , unless your just super talented or have great connections your going to really struggle for those first jobs and there going to be shit.

I noticed you used the words comfy twice, you seem entitled as shit .Your going to learn you can't just walk into an art career and just grab all the jobs you want like it's a buffet.

I can't imagine someone with your attitude is even going to get good enough to get any kind of job.

If your a troll though good job got me to reply.
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>>2450489

you seem really thin skinned and angry as fuck

don't ever talk to me or my thread ever again
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>>2450494

You seem like an entitled douche and need to put into place, you can't stop me or anyone else posting in your thread
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>>2450503

please stop

I don't expect to work for those companies at the start, no one is that delusional

I'm not entitled because I think a line of work would be comfy for me

also you're a retard for thinking "super talent" exists

please stop
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>>2450509

>please stop

I'll stop when I want to

>also you're a retard for thinking "super talent" exists

super talented not super talent not sure if your too retarded to copy paste my text correctly or being intellectually dishonest and misquoting me.
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>>2450519

Okay man. Peace be with you.

Hopefully I get some real advice before this thread archives.
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The freelance illustrastration career does not exist. You can pretend to be doing it while making a halfway decent living doing a combination of things, of which freelance illustration is a part of. The biggest part however will be your porn patreon, your gumroad tutorials, your ocassional freelance photography jobs, your youtube videos, etc etc. To everyone trying to do the same it will be blatantly obvious how fucked you (both) are for trying to do this as a career.

My honest advice: Do something else professionally. Art is not worth it. barrier of entry in terms of being 'good' is already through the floor, skill has been completely devalued and replaced with online popularity, and that trend is only going to worsen as software and tools become better and better. If you want to make it, you might as well go suck dick irl instead of online, that'll make you more money too.
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>>2450554

What about people like Dave Rapoza, Craig Mullins, Ruan Jia etc. ?

Yes they are amazing and out of reach of 99.9999% of people but as an example they are clearly good enough to get constant work

I do NOT remember people being this negative before, I remember on other sites that once your skill reaches a certain level, you will be swamped with work requests.

But I think most of you are jaded faggots who can't draw anyway, just like me except I ain't jaded lol
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>>2450566

they are superstars. in proportion to how good they are within their chosen field, they make terrible money. People were positive up until maybe 2004, then came another 10 years of rookies just repeating the positive mantras of the older generations, in an attempt to keep up good spirits and push through the hardship until they 'finally make it'. also in an attempt to look sexy, positive, successful and hireable for potential clients. then aroud 2014 and soon after CA.org went to shit, it's blatantly obvious to every and anyone that doing art for a living is an absolute desaster of a career choice. and you are likely to end up killing yourself aftre realizing the skills you have worked so hard to acquire are completely worthless, and you cannot possibly improve to become a superstar fast enough to outpace the improving technology/crutches.

it's already only about popularity, dicksucking and networking. literally nothing else matters. if you want a career in the field of dicksucking, self promotion, and doing noah bradley type stunts to clickbait for attention, freelance illustration is for you.
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>>2450566
Look man, you seem to have your heart set on this idea that you will be a freelance artist of some, perhaps vague, description. You can do whatever you'd like with your life.

1. This is not as easy as getting regular jobs with your resume. You can't say "I drew for five years that's my experience." You need a portfolio, full of diverse and high quality work. You won't get freelance jobs without one. If you want good freelance gig, you'll want a portfolio full of work you've already sold and are proud of.

2. No one is just an artist. Freelance sounds fun until you realize there is zero job security for you. You'll need (1) a safety net, and (2) a second source of income. Your safety net is just your savings. You can't freelance without savings because there literally will be months where no-one will hire you, and your diet will be discount cola and pancakes.

3. You also can't just jump into patreon stuff. You won't survive off patreon alone unless you have an audience. You won't have an audience unless you establish yourself.

4. The art scene today is like 85% "whom you know" and not "how skilled you are". Honestly, if you don't believe me, crack open a comic book or look at a magic card and analyse the anatomy: it's usually lazy, and it's often bad. They have a job because they're well connected.

So the take-home message is this: You need to plan. Meticulously. You need to figure out how you're going to keep a roof over your head and food on the table. The reason I sound like I'm being mean is that I'm trying to drill this point home. You do not sound like you've thought about this very hard. And that's fine. But if you're going to do it, you need to plan more. I'm just worried that you'll bail on schooling only to be dumped into perpetual unemployment. A big part of art career success is persistence, and it's hard to be persistent when you're not making any money.
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