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>>fellowBro's books :
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>>2592749
Still in progress. Be honest.
>>2592774
Beginner Thread friendo
practising drawing faces on shapes
I'd still like to get some feedback on this.
>>2592806
Stiff, because he's just standing straight. Bend that leg, bitch. Work it. Also, if he's supposed to be holding that leaning shield, lift it and make his body sag or strain with or against the weight. Right now, it's just kind of floating. Also his fingers are huge. The away facing lion faces are missing cheeks and cheekbones. The shields are way thicker than they need to be, but that's fantasy.
C/C?
>>2592749
post link in the previous thread faggot
How do I make the lantern better?
>>2592946
There are a lot of round/organic shapes in the image, so maybe you should design the lantern following that pattern?
>>2592958
The gouache is really thick in that area so I'd rather not completely redo it, I was more thinking in terms of color.
5 minute gestures
>>2593016
that sounds like good advice... I usually just jump into rendering and improvise as I go, which is good sometimes, but I should definitely start planning and brainstorming at least a little more.
How am I doing /ic/?
>>2593057
Not bad but top left her arm looks to big for her body.
>>2593057
i like your rendering
>>2593057
All the heads except maybe top right look very tiny.
>>2593057
still taking pics at an angle to hide mistakes
just take more time measuring
A-am I past the uncanny valley /ic/?
>>2593166
Fraid you aren't, Firez
>>2593166
yes, yes you are
>>2593068
>>2593139
>>2593140
Noted and thank you. I saw the arm in the upper right but for some reason every attempt I made to correct it failed and after a certain point I've found that it's best to just let those problems be and move on so the piece isn't a total bust.
But damn I didn't even notice that tiny head thing anon. Scary. I was feeling pretty good about them only to find I didn't even notice they were all critically flawed. Fuck, back to the drawing board I suppose.
>>2593140
To be fair I am getting better at it though. Only two of these were taken at off angles : )
>>2593166
I like it a lot, the rendering and colours work well imo. The only thing bothering me is the nose that reminds me of Micheal Jackson.
>>2592899
Arm seems a bit short, but that's about it without seeing the reference.
>>2593166
Her eyes are just barely, BARELY pointing different directions. I'd say nudge the left one to the right. Also the nose and lips are so pointy it's distracting. I would flatten the hair on the top right a tiny bit as well, it sticks out further than the rest. This is all minor stuff, looks really good.
>>2593166
No but you detoured into Farmer Joe's ranch.
>>2593166
youre oversharpening the edges o the mouth
Anybody?
>>2592024
>>2592749
>>2592775
pretty neat! got a blog?
>>2593260
learn from master Lemen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Pd0xqPzKCc
Doing some creature design.
life drawing
1/2
>>2593360
2/2
>>2593311
good stuff, anon. do you have a blog?
>>2593368
Thanks mate. Sure thing, it's -> http://crimzondrawz.tumblr.com/
I have a few more ideas to run before I upload this one with a few older and newer ones.
>>2593311
the chromatic aberration adds absolutely nothing to the sketch.
why
why
why
>>2593392
I just recently figured out how to use it so naturally I'm experimenting with it.
Granted, it' gonna look like shit 90% of the time, but that's what sketches are for, right?
>>2593260
terrifying
Feedback like cmon on dude >>2591571
How is this looking as a silhouette? Should I make any major changes before heading into colour and details?
>>2592749
Fucking buggo
>>2592806
Nice construction dude.
>>2593789
Very messy anatomy crap
>>2593598
Your specular is wrong, face is too shiny. Also your brushwork is sloppy
>>2593856
Can you elaborate on the specular placement? In guessing the left cheek shouldn't be getting that much light.
~2-3 hours of master study, colours need more work
>>2592749
Designed some makeshift electric conversion for rear axle. Also bike handle to work as selector with clutch.
>>2593166
I would say almost
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Kvroul782E
Skip to 11:40
poor edit on my part still has issues but hopefully it illustrates the point
>>2592775
Nice, the pencil is a Koh-I-Noor if am right?
I use them too but the lead inside breaks very often on me. Does that happen to you as well or is it just me and bad luck? I'd like to stick to them but burning through multiple broken ones is putting me off. Oh, and I'm using the 3B ones.
>>2593889
True, I think I made that transmission hard to understand. But actually it was more like schematics for myself, so I'm okay with it.
This one is in progress, I really need to learn how to paint digitally. I'm such a traditional person, so combined with mouse - just need to learn.
just draw this for /b/
>>2594099
these colors were horrendous, here's cleaner grayscale.
How to fix this shit? I see the head incorrect. help!
>>2594206
years of practice. Leave it be, and go on to the next thing.
>>2594206
Do you draw for Wikihow?
>>2594309
but if I do not know where I'm wrong how can I improve?
>>2594326
no, they pay well? how can I offer me?
>>2594206
Gesture and anatomy studies
>>2592775
>>2593951
Yea they break really easily. I don't know a whole lot about pencils, which ones would you recommend?
>>2593265
no.
Hey there, anyone have any thoughts on this sketch before I move forward with the picture?
Just started workin on some guys half an hour ago, any thoughts?
>>2594127
The lighting scheme is muddled, its like every part of her body is being hit from a slightly different angle.
Her collarbones are drawn two-dimensionally, rather than being part of the broader 3d form.
>>2593166
Other comments were right to emphasize the nose. Unconvincing both in its interaction with the lighting, and its anatomy. The shape of the upper lips seems a little diagrammatic rather than naturalistic.
>>2593782
Too generic.
>>2594327
You don't become good by incrementally fixing errors until there are none left. For now, start by drawing humans until you know what humans look like in two dimensions.
>>2593598
Try broadening the range of values.
I don't think your speculars are as off as that other guy was saying, rather, the uniform grey everywhere else is making them particularly jarring.
>>2593457
The eyes aren't fittings into the faces properly, which is creating a creepy mismatched effect.
>>2593311
#3's chest is an amazing concept! keep up the good work.
First time doing a digital portrait from reference, a lot of fun.
>>2594401
Well, on the side I have a few Derwent Graphic pencils left, got them from a trip to London. Never had any problems with them.
But I have switched to charcoal pencils now and I'm probably never going back again. Great stuff for all kind of things.
Anyway, neat sketches. Have any finished works?
>>2594444
some watercolor stuff, it seems easier to use instead of pencil
>>2593264
Dubious neck anatomy.
The eyes seem like they're sitting on a flat plane rather than a round face.
Flower not convincingly incorporated intot the rest of the picture.
In this lighting i would expect the edges of the forms to all be a little darker. This has been only minimally done, so the whole think looks 2D.
>>2592946
Have it hang vertically?
got more but i don't want to spam, so this is the last one
didnt get feedback, so just posting again. now with a color layer. ye boi
>>2594465
that ear looks too big and at the wrong angle
Need to do these 2min gestures in pen more often, makes me realize just how awful my line quality actually is.
>>2592749
I'm surprised at the lack of Watergate jokes
>>2594470
1. its a goblin/thing
2. you're absolutely right. i'll give that a fix
Wanted to get some input on this before I go much further.
>>2594558
leg missing.
>>2594569
Oh yeah, still trying to figure out where to put it... no matter where I try to work it in, it looks off.
>>2594558
The upper arms are really short.
And the whole anatomy of its right arm/shoulder confuses me.
>>2594576
How so? It makes sense to me, but maybe I need to do the values before anyone else can make heads or tails of it.
Hopefully this makes more sense.
Op's drawthread pic is uninspired. I thought I was inspiring a change
>>2594668
I'm trying to show a dead knight partially submerged in water. In the water I want to have a reflection of a spooky woman. Is this possible with what I've got here or should I change direction?
>>2593782
Think of something distinctive that will stand out. Give her a garment that make the silhouette more unique. Don't be afraid to use something that seems silly or unattractive at first. If you don't break the rules of what is "cool" everything that's cool will be boring as hell.
>>2593883
What I do to help me see colors better is I unfocus my vision so that everything is blurry. Once all the details are gone it's easier to see what colors you're missing. Also don't be afraid to use jet black. Your background on the right side is too light and is messing up the colors you want to use for the shaded area of his face.
The original has a cooler temperature background and warm reds and oranges where as you've gone more purple and grey. Which isn't a bad color scheme but it's not the same as your reference.
I'm sure I'm beating a dead horse but those are my 2 cents. Good job though, this is mostly pretty good.
>>2594668
Looks good so far and I like the idea, BUT
>sword piercing armor
Swords are for bashing, first of all, and to kill someone in that much armor would involve a knight on knight rolling around on the floor style wrestling match with the victor wedging a dagger between plates of armor.
>>2594692
The sword is forged from a dragon baculum. It can pierce ANYTHING.
This is the last thing I did, which was pretty half-assed by my own standards. I didn't feel confident enough to tackle the folds in ink, so I'll be doing some studies of that later. It's hard to keep a regular schedule with fulltime work, but I'll make it happen.
This is a 4 hour charcoal portrait i drew from life today. Three parts.
>>2594731
>>2594733
>>2594734
Not a fan. Rendering looks stiff and amateurish. Keep going though!
>>2594747
What would you recommend to help with my rendering?
>>2594734
Soften the edges of her eyes if want a more realistic look. They almost appear a bit comic book symbol like.
>>2594751
Ok. Thanks for the advice!
>>2594750
drop the attitude, for starters
>>2594754
*wasn't sarcasm
*neither is this
This is though.
>>2594754
What attitude? Fuck you he just asked for tips
>>2594754
Kill yourself senpai
>>2594692
Good good. I've actually passively wondered for a long time why swords were used against armoured opponents so recently I did a whole bunch of research on armour and weapons and stuff and it's really interesting. Anyway, I know swords aren't for piercing armour. I'm going for a paranormal kind of vibe with this. the sword through plate is supposed to imply some sort of otherworldly force and I'm hoping the reflection of the spooky lady will be enough to imply that.
>>2594459
beginner thread pls
Does this look 3D?
>>2594763
Fair enough. You could make the sword be a ghost sword or something too. Most normies wouldn't recognize the proper use or misuse of a sword anyway, so it probably doesn't matter.
>>2594763
The intention isn't communicated clearly enough. It looks like a mistake. The woman won't be enough. The issue is that the sword and armour are drawn too deadpan. Give the sword some eccentricities that imply it's no ordinary sword. Maybe change the lighting scheme to something less typically medieval fantasy.
Finally decided to draw all the cast of my project/future series/thingie together, what do you guys think of their designs? From left to right: Rhodes, Alice, Jessica, Kin.
>>2594809
I like the one on the far right the most, but the one right next it is alright too.
I don't like the other 2 at all, but that's just my opinion.
Critiques? Also does the chromatic abomination look ok here?
>>2594847
you've got to get some more references for the upper chest/neck, pal. I also understand that the proportions are supposed to be stylized but... you've just got to get a little more familiar with anatomy.
>>2594809
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>>2594847
Abomination was definitely the right word. Before you can apply stupid effects that make your work look even more amateur, try learning to paint a decent picture first. This is the definition of trying to polish a turd.
>>2594786
Crit anyone?
Practicing painting
>>2594786
Generally just sucks. Put it in the beginner or alt thread.
>>2594847
I like it. Creepy. Stylistically effective. Although I don't care for the blur, and I think you should put the same amount of work into the anatomy and rendering of the body as you did into the face.
Reminds me of that piece by some /ic/ browser with the many-armed woman pulling open a bloody hole in her stomach.
Anyone have a pic of that?
>>2592946
This piece is progressing very well! If I were the one person, I would intensify the light emanating from the lantern. Specifically by making the ground under it a very high value and bringing up the highlights on the tail and figure.
>>2593789
This is that stupid art bible shit isn't it?
>>2594983
sorry forgot to base it, how should i go about changing thins? also any tips for coloring techniques?
>>2594993
FUCK, sorry better image
>>2594754
Are you on drugs?
HELP NEEDED HERE
How do I keep perspective consistent through a drawing? I started pic related only with ink, no pencil allowed, and it's hard as fuck to think about perspective all the time, any tips? How do I Kim Jung Gi?
>>2595186
Draw multi perspective boxes with ink until your dick falls off.
>>2594647
You just colored it in, the shoulder socket placement (right)is a bit off, emphasize the bulge a bit more. also foreshortening.
>>2594995
Your line quality is pretty shit. Also, work on the fundamentals and design, parallel lines are the best way to make your work look unappealing.
>>2592806
If you could color it in a way that the geometricality of the construction shows through, making the picture look a bit art deco, it would be real cool imo
Fucking foliage, you're killing me.
![SH_03[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xK7o20B.jpg "SH_03[1].jpg")
>>2595244
>painting foliage
>not painting a few leaves and then fade into a color to give the impression of a forest and a lot of detail
>>2595254
Welp, thanks for that. Gonna put more thought into the next one.
>>2595244
Is it your intention to practically work in grayscale? The composition and perspective is as if someone took a photo of what's happening on a theatre stage. Or it's a screenshot from a point and click game. For foliage, you should define out a few bushes/trees and just have some sort of interesting brushwork and colors elswhere that kind of remids foliage. There is no point on focusing everywere.
Feedback please.
![joseph__the_ancient__forest_dragon_by_mikeazevedo-d7jlys8[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/uHIP2Jw.jpg "joseph__the_ancient__forest_dragon_by_mikeazevedo-d7jlys8[1].png")
>>2595255
Another thing, look at a similar scene in the woods by Mike Azevedo, the composition works much better here, in your painting the giant almost blends in with the forest and does nothing, just sits there near one side of the painting, also check the value structure here and the powerful light source helps pop out the important elements.
>>2594979
What? What the fuck are you talking about
>>2595259
Colors are kinda intentional yes, I tried adding some more saturated browns/oranges/reds to ease the overall monotony but it quickly dawned upon me that my colors are fucked.
As for the perspective and composition yep...got plenty hours to catch up on.
>>2595269
Saved, cheers for the help mates.
>>2594809
tumblriffic
>>2595267
I cant be the first to tell you this so take it to heart. Read the sticky and go to /beg. I know you probably wont read it so I will also tell you to resize it so that that largest dimension is 1,000 pixels or less.
>>2592749
>>2594475
it looks pretty good from what i see, and i like the amount of form caught in the image
Eh? Ehhh? I'm thinking of having a guy with a lantern looking down from the sewer grate with the eyeball thing getting just caught by the light maybe.
>>2595396
Head needs to be bigger on top
how fucked is it so far
>>2595400
Can't comment on the drawing because I'm a shit artist myself, but you can't really angle a lantern downwards like that so a torch would probably work better.
>>2595500
I call it,
bold and brash.
Welp another one into the trash
>>2595529
Please stop anon, you made me spit out my drink.
>>2595377
Shit, this looks pretty great.
Got a blog/gallery someplace?
Finally done with this, I feel inner peace now
>>2595449
Thanks. I think i fixed it.
>>2595633
>>2595477
Good perspective, good use of foreground, mid ground, and background, overall composition though, kinda weak. Do you want to show the girl, I hope not because she's way too tiny to be the main subject. Just show off the cool china room? If so you've got way too much negative space. You could lover or raise the camera to show the room in a more extreme angle, for instance. It's also too balanced, not sure if I want to look out the window (which is not good) or at the girl.
>>2595639
allright, now i got it. The bangs confuse my proprtions..
>>2595650
good boi
>>2595522
Good point. It's a shit drawing, but all my sketches are garbage.
>>2595592
i have. But usualy i draw porn
http://wahafagart.tumblr.com/
>>2595650
literally 10 times better
>>2595630
Love the lighting and colors in this.
>>2595643
ah thanks!
I do want the focal point to be out the window (im trying to make something comfy where you get an idea of the setting she lives in, so i dont want her to be the focal point exactly?) I made her bigger though, you're right she did look too tiny. so like window>girl>room
I tried making the table bigger to lead the eye to her and then to the window but I'm not sure how to fill that negative space
>>2595700
It's looking pretty gud man. I love the shape of the face and ears, it's the perfect amount of surreal without being unreadable. I'd fix where the horn on his crown-thing is though, it seems a bit too close.
>>2595700
If you can I d change the pose. Profile always looks cheap and more 2d than a little more 3/4
>>2595377
Beautiful lines, colour, and symmetry. The position is a bit boring though, so remember not to do pieces like this too often if you want an exciting portfolio.
>>2594995
For digital colouring remember to take into account the reflection of the armour unless it's going to be scuffed and dirty. Since it's such a basic picture of just a character, remember to use a decent amount of vibrant colours to make it interesting.
Your line work can be improved unless it was just a guide. I recommend practising by drawing two big lines, and connecting them together with smaller ones like train tracks.
The armour itself is well put together, and the pieces seem like they all fit together except for that one knee. It looks like a circle floating next to the body. I'd either put some straps on it, or make it look like it's a joint in a bigger piece of leg armour.
>>2594727
I love the effect of the lines, but the upper body seems to big for the lower body. Fabric's looking good so far though.
rocks!
>>2595377
whel... i think his armour must be more like his face .
>>2595912
SSS?
>>2595940
subsurface scattering
I was practicing perspective and then autism struck
>>2595948
>dildochurch
I was thinking nuclear cathedral
Did a quick drawing of that scary nun demon from The Conjuring 2 on my mobile phone
ArtFlow is a pretty badass app
>>2594117
Those assholes only requests shit.
Old piece of work for class I came across. Was proud of it so I decided to post it.
Charcoal ~6 hours
WIP, male/female player unit.
Going for that tactics ogre/final fantasy light watercolor finish. Any tips on how to achieve it?
>>2596030
Derped myself
>>2596036
Twice. Goddammit captcha cell phone bullshit.
>>2595931
>>2596039
The Arm seems too long. Decent rendering though
>>2596041
Shaping up! Plans for the background?
>>2596039
face and rendering look awesome, shame about the super long upper arm
>>2596044
I swear to God it's in proportion. Model was lanky af. Should have made a decision against it though.
Damn.
>>2596041
dude you should really try to get some value shifts going on, it can sometimes feel too 2d and flat when you don't have a clear indication of 3 dimensional form, which is done through a solid understanding of lighting and values, as well as material rendering knowledge. I like the lines though, seems like this must have taken you a long time. I personally dont have the attention span to force linework for over 30 minutes. Keep going with it would be nice to see end result. Doesn't hurt to have a little bit of perspective in there either btw.
>>2596043
>Plans for the background?
yes
>>2596047
And I swear to god you are full of shit.
It's very common for people to pick out small deviations in placement and proportion and magnify those, but there's no way his upper arm is that long, unless you've got a reference picture you'd like to share.
>>2596052
whel... I think when i'll finish with all that bumpmapping, i can make it less 2d.
>>2593057
More voyeurism
>>2596066
Post reference pls
I hope it's okay to post two in one, I finished these both at the same time and it's my first time posting here, so...
One on the left is acrylic on canvas and the one on the right is colored pencil on black board. They were both the first ones I did in those mediums (excluding mini practice sheets), so I'd like some advice for getting better at them, especially with skin tones on acrylic and colored pencil in general.
The hatching on the rocks did not work out.
:(
>>2596160
Don't know why that isn't flipped. Cell phones.
>>2596125
mb, it was 40 min study
>>2594754
yea fuck you asshole the guy's just asking for tips; they replied politely
>>2595244
matey the perspective looks a bit off, just because of the stag your troll-thing is holding, something just doesn't seem right. Assumedly that stag is larger than a human being, which we can see. Just work around the distances or perspectives, i dunno something just looks out of proportion
9x12 charcoal and graphite
Been working on this all day. Tomorrow I'll polish it up and try to make the blocks look better..
>>2596068
Whats your method on the linework? do you use software like lazy nezumi or saipaint for smoothness?
>>2595912
there will be water
>>2594809
From left to right
R, E, E, E
is it just me or ic has been way slower than usual
>>2595700
>pulled back some of your value ranges, especially on the hair
>made his in-light skin warmer and added some subtle blues on his in-shadow skin
>made the front rimlight greenish to contrast his reddish skin
>gave him another rimlight, this one purple to contrast his yellow hair
>added glow
>>2595650
>>2595700
>>2596264
For your value ranges, basically you want a clear read. You want to know what it is you are looking at a quik glance. You can test this by going into thumbnail mode
The Mother of Korea
>>2596288
Oh god what the fuck
>>2596288
Please remember to use your trip c:
>>2596288
Jackie?
test
>>2596294
cute feet desu :3
is this finished?
>>2596345
grats on unban
>>2596393
the quick reply thing was not working for like 3 months
>>2596294
Nice, but it would be better if the background was in a color that wasn't already on those legs, here it the same color as the knees
>>2594441
I dig it,make the lines a tad more light
>>2594754
you are the type of niggers who are frustrated with their lives and are not happy with where they are art wise.
just commit seppuku you fucking edgelord
>>2596264
This is awesome thank you. I tried to do the same as you except for the purpe light wich I found a bit excessive.
Also, could you or any anon explain me the purpose of the blue bits in the in-shadow skin
>>2596522
It's mostly just to push the color temperatures. Since your picture has mostly designated the light to be warm, that means shadows are cool. Adding subtle hints for blue make it cooler.
is where someone, who have brushes fromt this gumroad? https://gumroad.com/l/QEvbb
>>2594692
>swords are for bashing
Are you serious? Swords are for cutting and piercing, although there is still the issue that this sword is piercing through the armor rather than a gap between the armor
>>2596219
>saipaint for smoothness?
it's on 8
>>2596346
i'm not sure if it looks finished, but i don't know what else to do to it.
>>2596406
i'd rather alter the knees to separate them from the background than vice versa. does this work?
My dumbfuck muscle study referenced from a Gottfried Bammes book.
A lot of his illustrations are so heavily stylized I'm not sure they're making for great direct study material, but they do provide lots of constructive figure drawing practice using the poses.
>>2596197
I give up. not much change from the last picture. I can't make these blocks look good. Any thoughts?
it's supposed to be sebastian stan, but looks nothing like him. i used a reference photo and it still didnt help, pls crit
>>2596675
Come on. You can render a face but you can't model a literal cube in your light source? Stop looking at your reference and start looking at your piece. Here's a tip: a cube can show no more than three sides from any given perspective. Each side should be a different value.
>>2596753
good point. I will stop looking at the reference. I'm sure this will help
>>2596644
Fucking reverse, it looks like she's been sucking nonstop dick.
>>2592899
Still beating this motherfucker. I really need practice painting, any tips apart from "practice"?
Like how can I make visible strokes without it becoming muddy as fuck?
>>2596803
I'm not the best colorist, but for the muddy strokes problem, try not using brushes that change size, only opacity
Just enjoying, didn't take things too seriously. Some adjustment could be done for heads shadow and headset itself.
Layin
>>2596857
Decided to have some fun midway through and took out the knife
>>2596849
That's pretty damn neat, anon.
>>2596849
pretty cool
>>2596863
luv it
+
Any c/c ? contrast should be harder ?
>>2596073
>>2596922
>>2596849
thanks, did another one. I want to do a statue with a lot of movement next, feels good doing studies this way.
>>2596922
>>2596925
Love the values in these. Would suggest softening your touch on certain drawings however- for example, the stomach/torso area of the woman in the top image, left/topmost picture looks very harsh. It's almost like she's a block of stone rather than a soft, fleshy human body.
Generally keep doing what you're doing, though; I think I've seen your other sketches on here and you're doing the right thing to improve.
b-sides
this is the reference. crit please?
