How strong do you think the link between your sfw and nsfw art should be?
Can I..
>be open about everything I draw
>keep nsfw separate but linked
>don't publish things like fetish comissions etc.
..?
I see people making an entire new alias and never link the two together, but wouldn't it be better to just come clean with all the stuff you're interested in drawing? I think the audience likes it when you're being honest with them and with yourself, but it also looks like a trap that could ruin your name when you try to get into serious stuff later in life, like studio work.
People don't discuss this very often.
keep a link on your blog that is subtle, but don't explicitly advertise it, and use a different name
>I think the audience likes it when you're being honest with them
Who is this audience you're referring to exactly, and why are they so concerned with honesty?
Depends on how /d/-tier your nsfw stuff is.
Also depends on what your main sfw audience is.
If you do decide to have them linked listen to the advice of >>2580552
>>2580557
Not the majority, but when the audience gets to know you a lil bit, it will get you some loyal fans as well as a better atmosphere. It's all a fight for being exceptional out there and PR and marketing skills are extremely important imo.
>>2580543
>I think the audience likes it when...
"Audience" is a vague term, your audience likes it when you wear a fur suit and fuck them up the ass if your audience is a bunch of fur fags. If your audience is parents with young children looking for the bed-time stories you illustrate, then you probably don't want links to your nsfw shit on your homepage. It's called "Not Safe For Work" for a reason.
Some artists are more open than others about their side work; it's up to you to decide whether or not you'd alienate your own demographics.
>>2580576
Revealing your fetishes to prove to someone you're honest doesn't seem like a good idea to me.
It doesn't matter op. It's probably better to keep the two separate but SOMEONE's going to give you shit for whatever fetish that isn't just vanilla-tier crap.
>>2580543
If you have to ask, then don't. Once the cat is out of the bag, it's hard to put it back in.
You don't have to be open about everything you draw. It's not being dishonest, it's being smart. Think of who your main audience is (or what audience you're targeting). What does it offer your audience if you link your NSFW? If your audience is a bunch of futa-loving furfags then go ahead, but if your audience is more mainstream, then don't.
Anyway, it's well known that most artists draw NSFW stuff to varying levels, so as long as it's not like the parents of young children can google your illustrator name and find a bunch of dickgirls taking it in the ass, you should be fine.
>>2580543
>How strong do you think the link between your sfw and nsfw art should be?
Just "keep it separated" kind of strong.
I was afraid of drawing porn fully because "M-MUH ART CAREER D: IM GONNA LOSE MY JOB....D:" but...seriously.
I know a guy who works in a big cartoon studio (one of those 3 that makes 3d cartoons) AND has an account for gay porn.
Then - that guy Nesskai...or whatever his name is. He even dont separate shit. He openly posts his Blizzard job stuff into the same account with picrelated erotic gay works.
And has an account for gay porn that most of people know.
It's 2016. Nobody cares as long as its not some torture loli scat porn that makes you a mental creep.
>>2580543
strong colors, I like the slight hint of brush strokes as well. I don't like rating art but like 8/10 tbqhf.
also, keep it separate
In the end, it doesn't matter. None of this matters. Some fucker is going to be offended by whatever the fuck you draw, even if it's as innocuous as a fat fictional character drawn skinny.
If you draw porn and shit, you could use a different name, but let's be honest-- people on the internet is autistic enough to notice the similarities in drawings and it will always be linked back to you.
Best thing to do really is just ignore the rabble rousting and cognitive dissociate arguments and keep doing what you're doing.
If you want a job, in drawing someday. it is best to seperate them. knowing what is appropriate and innappropriate is a skill your employer will look for. nudity is mkay butt all out sex porn aint mkay.
>>2580674
>people on the internet is autistic enough to notice the similarities in drawings and it will always be linked back to you.
>Best thing to do really is just ignore the rabble rousting and cognitive dissociate arguments and keep doing what you're doing.
this
I had 2 situations at this point.
1) some retard came to my DA page and posted a comment "Wow really nice gallery! im from that gallery and i really love your [FULLY fucking explains what kind of porn i draw]" on my front page.
2) People posted my works to porn threads few times and i somehow got haters but it was 3 years ago - i never responded their messages and people stopped caring.
(it was fun watching them discussing ways to contact me and talk to me while im sitting in the same fucking thread with those guys )
Do not link anything even slightly controversial to your real identity on the internet.
You don't know where your life is going, who you are going to interact with and what society is going to be like in the future. Some drawings are already illegal some places. There's plenty of opportunity for even stuff which seems fairly harmless now to become seriously taboo either in wider society or the specific group which you need to get on well with.
Assume that you will be working for a strict puritanical boss and someone is deliberately trying to dig up dirt on you, because there's at least some possibility that will be true.
At the very least, keep everything that features underage, bestiality, rape, BDSM, dickgirls and gay content segregated from anything that links back to you. Not 'posted under a different name with a discreet link' but totally firewalled from your real life. Make it a separate identity and never share content between the two. Seriously, loli is already considered child pornography in a lot of countries. Piss the right person off and you will get actual serious investigators hunting you down. There's a good chance that stuff like guro and bestiality drawings are going to go the same way soon. In your lifetime, do you think that there's a chance it will become illegal? If so, start acting as if it is illegal now. Remember, once it's on the internet, you don't control it anymore. You could be having to deal with the fallout of what you did at 15 when you are 65. Imagine what someone in 1965 would have thought they could get away with and then extrapolate from there to see how acceptable your behaviour will be to future generations.
>>2580738
this sir is right
there are no civilized/free countries in the world yet, this is mob rule boy, our civilization is not based on morals, you can expect really dirty shit from people trying to ruin your oportunities.
If you do really weird shit keep that annon, gotta say not all porn art is the same, depends on how disgusting it is
>>2580627
This.
If you have a SFW blog keep it far away from your NSFW art and have a different name.
>>2580738
please listen to this OP. Once something is out on the net, you can't take it back. Drawing even a mildly homoerotic vanilla art can blow in your face if you end up butting heads with the wrong people. I've had this happen.
>>2580776
Maybe if you live in Saudi Arabia. What kind of backwards shit hole do you live where homoerotic art can get you into trouble? I suggest you grow a backbone.
I mean I get things like loli that's actually illegal in many places, but to places homoerotic nsfw works in the same category is pretty retarded.
>>2580917
Are you sure that you will never move to a country with Saudi-style moral standards?
Are you sure that every country you might live in will have similar moral standards to what they have now for the rest of your life?
Are you sure that you will never need to work for someone who is a radical christian/muslim/feminist?
The key to surviving in the modern world is to realise that your personal bubble is not the entirety of human experience. Just because the circle of people you interact with at the moment doesn't include anyone who would get upset at something is absolutely no guarantee that you won't meet someone who will get upset by it and have the power to make your life difficult.
I remember when it was absolutely non-controversial to say that there were two human genders. A generation before that it was uncontroversial to say that gays were mentally ill degenerates. A generation before that it was uncontroversial to say that blacks were intellectually inferior to whites. People who grew up in those generations are still alive. Most of them are able to pretend that they didn't really believe that stuff because they never wrote about it, but you don't have that luxury. When you post stuff to the internet, you are publishing it and if it can be linked to your real identity it can be used against you.
>>2580917
Oh, come on, the other anon wasn't talking about literally being beheaded for drawing gay porn! But the thing is, you don't know what the future will bring. Perhaps a surprising job offer turns up one day. Perhaps your boss there wouldn't appreciate your gay-furry-shota porn. Perhaps you offend the wrong person one day. Perhaps it wasn't such a good idea to have your self indulging smut so easily available and connected to your real name... It's better to be safe then sorry in these circumstances, since once it's on the web, you can't take it back.
my virtual life is very separate from my real life fortunately, i'm gonna be a teacher soon, and nobody knows my name on the web, or what i do, some classmates know that i do porn draws, but i never told them my name, or shown my work, i have nothing of them on my phone, or laptop, tablet or anything, i just work on the safety of my home.
I'm not even keep the files on the pc, i get them on free cloud services, with different emails, and keep them in a removable disk, that i've kept in a locked drawer.
>>2580917
It doesnt have to be a backward shithole for your art to have consequences. You've never been to the bible belt? Even if you work in an office in New York, nobody wants to see your furry scatporn.
>>2581012
this.
You know what the catch is? My art wasn't NSFW. It wasn't even meant to be gay. It was just some guy, but maybe I drew his butt a bit too round. Maybe his smile was a little bit too inviting. Looking back at it I can see why people thought it was a little gay, but jesus.
>>2581035
This is exactly what I do! Even tho some of my friends are very curious and have almost begged me to show them just one pic, I have declined. I just need to keep that stuff separate from my "real life". But it felt good telling them that I do draw some lewd, then I don't have to lie when one asks "what were you up to yesterday?" and they're totally fine with me being a bit secretive now, they know the reason.
Real question is, how separate can you actually make your username or internet persona from your real life?
If you have an username like mushroomsky09 or shit like on tumblr or something like that, what are the odds it will relate to your personal life?, assuming you don't post your name or face or post the link to more intrusive social medias like facebook.
If were talking about legal issues ofc that doesen't mean shit and they could get to you and your personal info whenever they wanted like, but if the only thing that concerns you is social life/jobs is is really that much of a problem?
>>2581001
Uh, yeah I'm pretty sure I'll never move to the middle east. If some religious nut turns down my job application because of his fucked up beliefs I wouldn't want to work for him anyway.
>>2581135
make no mistake, there is no such thing as true anonymity on the internet. The question is who has the means to find you, and why they want to find you. If you only post on 4chan and don't use the same name for your art persona and your RL persona, your potential boss may not find you but the FBI can if they suspect you're in possession of child porn.
Usernames are easy as fuck to change. However, what's hard to change is your unique footprint - your art style, handwriting, the way you write, the subjects you talk about, the places you hang out at.
This is one reason why I left for 4 years until my art style changed enough so that people from my past life can't find me anymore, but I am sure if they really tried, they can connect the dots and find me again.
>but if the only thing that concerns you is social life/jobs is is really that much of a problem?
If you're like most people, you'll never have to worry beyond that. However you never know how far you will go, the crowd that you'll hang out with, and who you will be working with. If you ever end up rubbing shoulders with a politician and his enemies decide to use you as a pawn, you're fucked for not covering your tracks. I wish my I covered my tracks more when I was younger, I never knew I'd end up becoming the person I am now.
>>2581135
Should be easy as long as you're always vigilant. Keep in mind how other people have been "doxed" in the past, often they attach things like their personal email to their anon social media accounts.
What would be harder tho is accepting money from people without revealing any of your personal details, in anyone has advice about that I would like to hear it.
>>2581159
You sound like you have some great stories to tell, though if you share them you'd probably end up making some more..
>>2581035
Jesus Christ, anon. Do you draw loli?
Just don't be a total fucking Chris-Chan and you'll be fine.
you guys seem quite worried about this
explain kjg
>>2581001
>Are you sure that you will never move to a country with Saudi-style moral standards?
>Are you sure that every country you might live in will have similar moral standards to what they have now for the rest of your life?
>Are you sure that you will never need to work for someone who is a radical christian/muslim/feminist?
By this kind of logic you would do nothing in your life because of 'what may happen'.
Reminder that this is on Feng Zhu's website, although hidden
just be sure to make it fucking cool
>>2584838
I think Kim Jung Gi gets away with more for two reasons;
1. His work is held in high regard and he is respected as a living master which makes everything he does to be seen in a more favorable light
2.His drawings are more "artistic" rather than purely pornographic. You can imagine some edgy rich person having his drawings on the walls of his mansion and it would look deranged in a cool way. Airbrushed gay furry porn not so much
Howabout don't be a creep and make deliberately nsfw art? I'm actually surprised by how many of you weebs are on this board
>tfw you spend the time you should be working on your portfolio on art that would be looked down upon in the industry
>>2585087
>His work is held in high regard and he is respected as a living master
gag. puhlease. he's a comic artist; there's a ton of them who draw just as well or better. and he has sameface syndrome (and not even because he draws mostly asians).
>>2585083
>Fucking cool
>Fucking
Kek
>>2581159
>I wish my I covered my tracks more when I was younger, I never knew I'd end up becoming the person I am now.
Story time...
>>2590565
Yes, he is a comic artist and a master at drawing. I don't understand why you're referring to him as a comic artist, as if that somehow implies less skill?
Also, while I certainly agree there are other artists that can achieve a similar end result I haven't seen any demonstrations of artists that can draw in the same method and as quickly as he does. His skill is nothing short of breath taking. If you have any examples, please post them.
>>2581001>>2581012
This may not seem related, but pic related is what this sounds like to me.
Excuses. You're literally giving in to people; actual, living, pieces of shit that amounts to absolutely nothing as part of the human race. In a world where 7 billion fuckers each could live a life to their own, one surrounded by your own kind, your own ethnicity, your own family, yet one entitled faggot chooses to fuck you over because you triggered their little fayfays, and now, you're screwed. But why? Because you let it happen. Not because you posted things 30 years ago that now triggers shithead nu-normies of 2050, but the fact you choose to let their autism win and be considered a justice to society.
This is what will happen. No way to stop it, whether you do it now for 50 years to pass to come in effect later or when 50 years pass and you fuck up right then and there. So, with all that said, who motherfucking cares? Live your life as you can, and as you want. If you trigger sjws with your work, that means you've made a impact. If your art is loved by millions, you mean something to people, good ones. And that's what matters. If you honestly care about how you live at 50 because some pathetic fucks is jelly of your life, too bad, when diseases and mass shootings would probably fuck you off before some sjw fucker does to your "image".
TL;DR Fuck the world and its problems; humanity. It's a fucking joke and amounts to jack shit. If you wanna draw big fat flapping dicks hosecums little lolis or furshit, then go ahead. Whether someone gets triggered now and then, it doesn't matter. As you said "once it's on the internet, you don't control it anymore". That goes for you, and everyone else, including fuckwad autists.
>>2590565
>gag. puhlease.
kys
>>2580571
How /d/ is too /d/ for the average person? Wondering also if I should ever out myself as a dirty sinful pervert in the future.
>>2580543
Fairly long read but very related.
http://blog.claycomix.com/posts/on-the-great-mistake-that-was-sexy-losers/
It might just be a slim chance that it blows up in your face, but i'd rather be safe than sorry personally.
>>2597667
Holy crap, that sucks... I loved that comic, read through it years ago and still think about particular strips now and then. The writing/humor stuck with me.
Glad to know he's doing better now, but damn...
I would keep it seperate, hell I would even keep different fetishes seperate too.
Like if you do futa and vore, keep the vore seperate.
>>2580543
Keep them separate and pretend the owners of both accounts are friends. Do collab comics or whatever and use each others characters. So the NSFW takes the SFW characters and makes porn of it, and vice versa.
Make sure to mention how the two of you are lifelong friends so the similar art styles are explained to everyone. If someone asks the SFW artist for NSFW art, direct them to your ''friend'' and vice versa. If you have Shadman shit-tier NSFW art, then keep that at a lower level than your SFW art.
>>2599602
/ic/ doens`t seem to fancy that guy.
>>2599602
>Keep them separate and pretend the owners of both accounts are friends.
yeah, everyone is going to see right through that
>>2600266
Depends on how different the art styles are, how much they collaborate, etc.
You might even make up something about one artist being a personal inspiration to the other.
>>2599602
Nah, hard to pull of two distinctly separate styles and just... I personally wouldn't be comfortable with that level of lying. Just have two separate accounts, no need to have them tying in to each other and potentially spawn questions you need to fake the answers to.
>>2593679
Do you live in front of your computer or do you actually interact with real life, friends,family and coworkers?! If you have nothing too loose and think the world is a joke anyway, then... good for you? Not the case for me, tho. I prefer a level of healthy discretion and I don't see it as a bad thing.
>>2600754
In fact, yes, I do have family that I take care of and a job that I work amongst my coworkers with.
But they have no idea about all the shit I draw, nor think what I do as an adult is unreasonable. My coworkers have no business to know my life pass my work hours, and my parents accepts me being an artist since I was 6, and has helped me push towards my career ever since.
If you want your life to be ruled by others thoughts and opinions because you're to fucking stupid to keep info A where it should be and info B away from A, than that's your fucking fault. Unless you post your porn on Facebook, there's no way your work should be seen by the common family member nor work associate.
TL;DR: Maybe you go get a better "real life" style and stop being fucking pathetic.
>>2600770
Dude, Chill! Are you having a shit week or something? In the first post you sound like you're trying to say people should just post smutty-art in direct relation to their real name and not give a fuck what anyone around you feels. But in this post you're obviously not saying that, here you're basically saying what I've been saying: draw what ever you desire, just have a minimum of whits to keep it from your real name and you'll be fine.
>>2600845
Grow a pair of balls. Not once to did I said anything that came off aggro, if you honestly can't even take what I said without pulling the "he mad" shit, you should leave 4chan, especially /ic/ cuz there are actual people trying to make you feel bad via trolling.
I said what you post on the internet shouldn't even be found by relatives if you keep it away from where your relatives lurk (Facebook). A tripname is one of the reasons you'd be fine, I never stated anything about your real name, the fact you assume that shit means your doing that yourself being stupid.
People need to grow up about other people meaning jack shit when your life is your life. If you let others take your life away from you, you deserved it.
>>2600891
Not him, but you do seem pretty bitter, m8. People here are known mostly for not taking everything personally and /ic/ is a pretty friendly board, actually. If you just want to argue for the sake of arguing, you'd be better off browsing 9gag or something.
>>2580738
With the increasing surveillance and control of the internet is there still the chance that shit could be found. Say a job is doing a background search, can they find what your email and paypal is linked it?
>>2585083
That was for douk.
>>2600942
>can they find your email and paypal
I would have a different email and an alias on a business Paypal account, probably access that shit on a heavily secure spare computer too
How open you can be about your NSFW work directly correlates with how good you are.
Look at Kim Jung Gi. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdtnvFgELLc
The better you are, the more you get away with showing fucked up stuff.
But also confidence I suppose.
>>2601068
>not even a minute in
>lewd sketches fetauring himself
tot
>>2600891
Yeah, you're def having a shit day... You come off as very aggressive and kind of contradict your own points in the same sentences. If you can't see that, then it's time to take an online-break.
>>2601068
I guess it also depend what kind of porn you draw. If it's mostly regular smut you won't face as much judgement. If it's cartooney rule 34, furry, or very weird fetishes it's a bit more awkward...
>>2601261
KJG works are pervy in a deranged genius arty way, they don't look like fap material.
