Can anyone give me ideas on how I can practice my linework digitally? I find it hard not to use my wrist when drawing digital and drawing curves are nearly impossible for me.
>>2567830
just go a day or two without letting your wrist touch the surface of whatever your drawing on. Or you could use a stabilizer. although if you are drawing with your wrists curves should be the easiest thing to do.
>>2567830
> Drawing curves are nearly impossible
First thing to do, draw a circle.
Does it look like a circle?
> Yes
> No
If no, go to the fucking parameters of PS and check Force Proportions.
>>2567896
O wow that made a huge difference for some reason. I have a 1920 by 1080 monitor you think that played a part?
>>2567896
I don't have that option?
>>2567830
Lock wrist or 90 degree orientation of stylus. Use a software with stabilizer, all the jap shit. Mess with Opacity pressure, helps make a more sketchy feeling line.
Not OP but what can I do to make lineart using a Wacom intuos medium? spamming ctrl+z is really slowing and working with vectors is not what I want cuz it looks stiff and plain as hell.
>Inb4 force proportions
I already did that nigger thanks for reminder just skip that shit.
Just want to share my 10yrs. old sister 's drawingm...i think it's sunako
>>2568013
Use a stabilizer, lazy nezumi if your using photoshop.
switch between erase and drawing to fix up lines, if you really need to do a warp/puppet transform on your line to get it in the right position.
Make sure you zoom out to judge the lineart, if you are zoomed in super far it will look bad no matter what.And lastly just be patient, your not going to do super clean line art in half an hour, take your time.
>>2568038
get her loomis this christmas
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php/203779-Drawing-with-your-arm-to-get-cleaner-lines-tips
either use your entire arm while drawing (elbow and shoulder, as well as wrist and finger), or zoom out and work small
>>2568040
Thanks. Pic related is current level of what I can achieve. I'm using both SAI and MS atm.
>inb4 anatomy, fundies, sticky >loomis, it's shit.
I know it's shit.
>What is a sketch, retard?
>>2568079
Seems difficult to achieve in the 20cm of an Intuos.
>>2567896
Please kill me. I've been wondering why my circles and lines were still sucking after months for the past few months of practice, and I just did this. I finally switched, and I'm having way less trouble now. Fuuuuck me.
>>2562565
I'm not sure about Photoshop, but Sai has a feature which smoothes your lines for you by delaying the drawing of the line in relation to when you actually draw the line. It's also important to remember that line density affects the attractiveness of your art. Experiment with arm positions while you're drawing.
>>2568129
>Implying people never buy tablets secondhand
>Implying people would even know their tablet had a problem
I'd ask if you're the special kind of retarded that likes to spend his time pointlessly flaming people on the internet instead of drawing, but we already know that's true.
>>2568132
Sorry if my wild guess matched you a little too well :^)
>>2568132
did you know that you can download manuals online?
of course you didnt
>>2567977
Your monitor was 16:9 and the tablet was not so yes it should make a difference
>>2568079
Drawing from the wrist is impossible. The wrist has only 2 degrees of freedom, one of which is used for lifting the pencil. The elbow has the exact same limitation.
The shoulder has the full 6 degrees of freedom and drawing from the shoulder is possible. But why not draw from the whole arm? If you add elbow movement to your shoulder movement you get a much bigger range of motion. This lets you draw bigger lines which improves signal to noise ratio.
And this image misses drawing from the fingers. The fingers working together allow full 6DOF movement of the pencil. They are ideal for fine details.
Just use the pen tool.
>>2568127
>>2567977
Well I'm glad if it helped some D/ic/ks.
Force proportion maintains the proportion between your tablet and the screen (if they don't have the same proportiong it makes an area on the tablet unused in exchange for greater accuracy on screen).
>>2567996
My Wacom is ten year old, yours is probably different. Go there, find yours and then read the parts about mapping tablet to screen (and maybe screen area mapping/tablet area mapping) :
>http://www.wacom.com/en-us/support/product-support/manuals
>>2568473
You are MVP, man.
I just realized that I sat down and started using it without actually knowing what I'm doing.
I guess it's time to study manual and then jump to art.
>>2568238
Shoulder actually only has 5 DOF, but that's more than enough for drawing.
What software do you use for this?
>>2570454
Photoshop
>>2568038
>Just want to share my 10yrs. old sister 's drawingm
Way to pull the "I have a friend who has a problem" when it's clearly you.
When drawing traditionally, I've always used many strokes for a single line. I never had problems with chicken scratch, because all strokes always hit the right point. But then, I started reading some books to get better and all of them said I should use one single stroke for each line, and I did it. I spend a fuckton of time learning and getting used to it (it looked the same way as if I did many strokes but I don't want to be the black sheep). But digitally, I never hit the same point with many strokes. I spent hours doing the Draw-a-box exercises, trying to draw a straight line from one point to another, and I only hit once after 20 attempts.
Is digitally drawing not for me?
>>2568127
hahaha
>>2567896
pretty easy to draw a perfect circle. been practicing on how to make the perfect circle for 2 years
>>2571761
It just takes time to get used to it. One way to try and get better at it would be to just put random dots on the screen and keep trying to connect them without overshooting. Do this for maybe an hour a day and you will probably get a lot better at it. Also try it with wavy lines as well.
On the subject of line drawing, is there any way to smoothen out linework easily? If i try to convert my illustrations to black and white, they always end up with harsh edges and imperfections like pic related. Is there any software or tool that can fix these blemishes?
>>2571784
We actually have a Questions thread and you'll have better answers here:
>>2547044
To answer shortly, yes, there are various methods, you will have to try several before finding one which satisfies you. Some will also correct your black areas. Search for Isolating Lineart in Photoshop and you should find a ton of tutorials.
One very lazy way is to copy a small part of the "white paper" on a new layer and set the layer to Divide. Then enlarge it to cover your whole pic.
A more popular is kinda like this
> http://trash-cats.tumblr.com/post/43120088639/isolating-lineart-in-photoshop
> Pic related, first method on right and second on left.
>>2571765
Jesus, is that in one stroke?
>>2571765
Was it a good use of your time
>>2571765
Are you a graphic designer or some kind of designer?
>>2571765
I've seen people draw perfect circles by using their whole arm. Is that how you do it? I guess you have a giant tablet or something?
>>2571765
wtf how. I wouldn't have believed it wasn't the circle tool if the line thickness didn't vary on the left
>>2574581
It's clearly legit, look at those pixels.
>>2574581
You are an idiot for believing they believed he did that.
>>2574556
>Implying he didn't use a soft eraser
Sketchbook pro has an ellipse tool that you can vary the opacity and thickness of line a normal line.
>>2574635
Shit, you're right. I am a gullible fuck
>>2574771
Make a video,and only then ill believe you.
>>2575455
>reading comprehension
>>257545
sorry my english isn't my first language
>>2568129
You are literally the kind of retard who reads license agreements.
>>2576325
This is bait.
R..right?
>>2571765
Ways of cheating anon's perfect circles on SAI:
-Get LazyNezumi.
-If you are a poorfag, mouse-click a simple round brush until you have a flat circle, decrease brush size a bit, activate the transparent color option, and erase on the same circle with few other several mouse-clicks.
-Or, if you have a SAI license, use beta SAI 2 circle option.
Can someone break down their brush settings for Sai for me? What's a good minimum size/ density ratio? Pretty much all of the options baffle me, despite messing around with them for a good while. Alternatively, a link to an in-depth tutorial would be ideal.
Do you have it?
>>2578076
the ligameme? eyup
>>2578076
yeh
people around me thought they were veins and would be creeped out out by it
>>2567830
i think i might get shot for this,.. anyway:
lay off the mouse, use the tablet all the way. mouse kinda screw up ur dexterity with drawing clean, smooth lines
