Why west doesn't have hot drawing website like pixiv where many good Japanse artists are posting their works?
As in west, we only settle for selfish SNS like “P-Please follow me and see muh art!”
But SNS is not desinged for posting drawings and running your own site doesn't seem very good.
What is this shit?
Japan, please teach us how to handle drawing culture.
>>2565957
wallow in our western filth
>>2565957
learn english
2. you only see good art because pixiv pushes all the good art to the top and hides all the shit art from the general view, making it appear that it's all God's on pixiv.
>>2565976
gods* fuck it let me go get breakfast
>>2565957
cuz japan never had any of isms like the west did. their art improved whilst ours did not. our art schools are a fucking joke. it also helps that their site is japanese so it's basically japs only.
>>2565988
Pixiv is also available in English and Chinese.
There's many Taiwanese.
What's the Chinese version of pixiv?
>>2565988
I like plenty of japanese artists, but let's be real here, on average, they don't hold a candle to chinese, eastern european or western artists.
>>2566025
nah, i don't think so, really. their only problem, in my opinion, is that there's too much moe shit which i don't care about at all. as a whole their country produce more art than most others. a lot of western artists are also too influenced by anime. and chinese artists just draw realistic anime which looks like balls. i'm talking generally, of course.
>>2566038
>i'm talking generally, of course.
Okay, generally speaking I disagree.
Can you specifically name some japanese artists who you think stand out far and above the rest of their worldwide competition?
>>2566060
Many, really. They make too much moe stuff but they also focus on stories which western artists don't. I get why normalfags think it's impressive. if they see manga they hate it automatically hate it because they hate cartoons. But if they see a generic knight robot that's realistic then they always think it's awesome. .I probably would too if I wasn't an artist. But if you forget JJ how good are the average western artist really? Is it better because they draw more dragons because I don't see it. The western artists I like are people like Sargent or Zorn or Gerome. Even the paintings they make now just look like generic photographs. Western art have had a huge decline in quality during the last century.
Pixiv has the same shit to good ratio as Deviantart, you're just a retarded weeb.
Once you grow up a little and expand your artistic horizons you'll realise how shitty nip "art" is
>>2566138
post your works
Unlike here, when Japanese are terrible they'll keep working until they reach a certain level of competence, then they post once they're less likely to shame or embarrass themselves. They're not magical, they just have dignity. It's cultural.
>>2565957
What do you guys think of http://drawcrowd.com/ ?
It usually seems like 90% of the content is breasts and ass, but I don't know how they could avoid that with a public voting system.
>>2566194
>It usually seems like 90% of the content is breasts and ass
A 90% heterosexual artist site? God approves. Deviantart better take notes.
>>2565957
We do
It's called deviantart
>>2565957
Jews
>>2566194
Their logo is literally a tit. When they realized they couldn't compete with artstation they went full retard and tried to attract all the thirsty dudes with yellow fever.
>>2566256
Spot the female.
>>2565957
>pixiv
signed up for an account solely on the merit of /ic/ nothing but complete subpar weeb art and not even the good kind. the shit kind you find on tumblr
>>2566150
the same reason I can't enter in LAS
>>2566020
weibo but thats a blogging website
>>2566025
>Chinese artists
>all sketchy shit
>aping tumblr fads mindlessly
You call that good?
So if I wanted to just upload my works online for easy access and viewing, Tumblr would be the best option right?
>>2568579
you are on /ic/, which is populated primarily by retards.
Retards don't actually draw or look at art; they just talk about the surface-level features they're vaguely aware of without any noteworthy comprehension; something that's very hard to have when you don't draw or look at art.
Incidentally, they also compulsively make shitty discussion threads where opinions only intermingle when one person disagrees with another.
>>2569731
>Retards don't actually draw or look at art; they just talk about the surface-level features they're vaguely aware of without any noteworthy comprehension; something that's very hard to have when you don't draw or look at art.
>>2568596
tumblr\instagram.
>>2569760
How do people see it? Tags?
how hard is it to gain a following on pixiv?
do even the mediocre or bad art get a following?
>>2570527
They may get likes, but following are a different thing. If you just search a tag, you'll see the likes and favorites of each art work. With this, you can tell the general concensus to get a following. Mediocre do get followings, but bad art generally doesn't or just gets one. The great art is in its own level.
>>2565957
Pixiv is basically Deviantart for a Japanese audience.
>>2570558
>instead of furry porn there's boat porn
>>2570558
Pretty much.
>>2565988
Do you have an account?
Have you ever search on any tag without filters?
Believe Anon their isms is as strong as ours but they're crazy good at hiding it.
>>i can only see the "good" art, so that means there is no bad art
pixiv makes money from other people posting content, they're just very smart at how they draw a crowd.
pixiv knows how to hide the shitty stuff, where as websites like deviantArt don't because they care too much about drag-netting as many people as possible for that glorious premium account cash. websites like deviantArt are ran by lazy people with no business sense, which is why most of the sites content management relies on manual moderation instead of automation.
additionally, pixiv is very fine-tuned to pull forward moe art in the spotlight, because their advertisement deals focus on moe products (just like chans in japan do). there's quite a lot of really good non-moe art on pixiv, but it's a bit of a hunt to find it.
pixiv, like most japanese websites, realized that advertisements made more money than premium services. deviantArt was very late to the game on this.
this is the core difference. the second difference is that japanese culture has a far stronger "shame complex" presence which means that they probably have a lot more shit artists who don't share their work, or artists who remove shit work from their profile once they start getting better.
i've noticed this a lot with japanese artists. a lot of the pro's have removed their older work from their portfolios completely, even if it was still good, where as western artists lean more towards keeping everything up there as a "whole package" kind of deal.
>>2570564
Nah, kemono art is what they call it, and it's as popular as in the West but furrycons are not a thing.
They rather go and sell doujin at comicmarket and such events.
>>2570605
>> they're crazy good at hiding it
almost.
i assume this guy is one of their "isms", even the shittiest of art for this character is very frequently in their featured sections along-side really top notch art.
>>2570612
kek
>>2570606
>tfw conflicted on portfolio now
The Japanese are wise, but don't people want to see my progress? The decisions.
>>2570622
i think if you can balance a bit of both, you're set.
show enough pieces to indicate progress, but make it obvious that they lead up to your work that's in the limelight, the stuff that sells your skills and draws people in.
eg. if my limelight pieces were all pixel art character sprites for RPGs, i'd want the progress work to focus around that similar category...eg. rough sketchbook concepts of RPG characters and maybe a few similar ideas from RPGs like weapon or item silhouettes.
even if i had some older work doing things like environment backgrounds, I'd want to at least keep a theme going on, so I'd lean more towards only featuring the work that seems like it works in RPGs, eg. pixel art tiles for background or foreground stuff that a character might interact with.
>>2570612
That's just Osomatsu-san, fujos love the recent series and it's one on the many cancerous fandoms overflowing the archive these past months.
>>2570609
Not true, there are very much Japanese furcons. Not sure if cosplaying is as popular there as it is in the West.
I bought some doujinshi online, and they gave me some freebies (which included two kemono events).
>>2570527
absurdly hard if you can't make it into the daily rankings.
when I start out barely any people would follow me. but when I make it into top 50 daily ranking I got like 500-1000+ followers per upload. the number is probably gonna be more absurd when you hit rank 1-3.
>>2570991
You actually made the top 50?
That's pretty crazy consdering even the top 1000 looks amazing.
>>2570612
>>2570617
>>2570731
>Everything I don't like is cancerous.
Well I think that pic related is pretty good.
>>2570612
That guy is an ism like Scooby Doo or Mickey Mouse is for us, it's just an iconic character(s) that got a really good reboot
>>2572592
there's plenty of good ones
honestly the only horrible ones i see are from these threads but then again i dont really go looking for either
>>2572735
Most of it is from DA. Which is where I got the picture from.
>>2566256
Mad grill is mad
Back to instagram
>>2566075
>they just talk about the surface-level features they're vaguely aware of
do you have a blog?
>>2565957
What is SNS
>>2576282
social networking site, sniveling negroid shit.
>>2576288
Hey buddy, I heard you like a knucklesandwich?
american artists are just obnoxious. If Pixiv wasn't a Jap site, it will be just as shitty as CGPeers, DC or DA
>>2576295
Spot the weaboo.
On the topic of Pixiv, does anyone have collections of tutorials from artists on Pixiv like Toshi, etc?
>>2570991
What number? My record is 38. Besides quality it seems timing also makes wonders, you have to upload when they reset their views-per-day thing.
I like how easy it is to browse pixiv using the id numbers for artists and illustrations, especially since some of them have the numbers listed on doujinshi or in artbooks they've been published in. It'd be nice if more websites did this because it makes it incredibly easy to find people if they don't delete their account.
>>2572592
you don't have to dislike something to point out that it's "cancerous". it's merely an observation of how frequently a certain thing dominates all areas of a website, how often there is an influx of it over anything else.
being cancerous also isn't exclusive to whether or not art is considered "pretty good".
art can certainly be both good-looking and cancerous.
the title of being cancerous is more-so derived from the nature of certain content existing only through an influx or flood of popularity, and nothing more. it's not exclusively a negative thing, just something that one can easily observe from afar if they aren't familiar with that particular type of content.
i don't particularly dislike Osomatsu, i just wish it wasn't literally EVERYWHERE on that websites that's all.
>>2572597
Scooby Doo and Mickey Mouse have good reboots?
I thought they were just memes.
>>2569731
>stating
