Audrey edition
Because we should not have to make new threads or post in draw threads with our fundamental exercises.
Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make your mom proud.
AVOID asking unrelated questions, there is a question thread for that.
Visit the usual "Artbook Thread" to find your desired books. (Or look in the new sticky)
Do not forget to PLEASE RESIZE and crop your images before uploading them. 1kpx is fine.
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There's a new sticky in town! You can see it at:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VfDTpLLVl5bWUGWguswKpPFml533luI8-NBd1EGYHnA/edit
>Thread study: Try to draw/paint the opening or any other following images.
Feel free to post your original works as well if you're trash.
TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.
Old thread: >>2551958
Penisse
>>2556480
penis also dicke and balls
>>2556476
>>2556492
>>2556492
>>2556493
thanks pham
from the tuts thread
>>2556497
>>2556496
As someone whos made these before. its always a challenge. If you dont put a cute girl in, the fucking idiot noobies wont bother to draw them because theyre all repressed faggots. But if you put may it be one cute girl might as well have put nothing else since thats the only thatll be drawn.
thankfully, i/c is scared of symmetrical shots of girls, or perhaps, they don't post it from the shame
>>2556509
i got that vibe from the more popular studies from last thread and two threads ago. and i didnt mean to steal making these threads from you
>>2556509
are you a retard
>>2556509
>thankfully, i/c is scared of symmetrical shots of girls, or perhaps, they don't post it from the shame
Were you not here when the very image you posted was the subject of a study thread and had like dozens of studies done of it? Some were pretty high quality too.
>>2556515
youre doing a much better job than me you didnt steal shit lol
>>2556516
yes
>>2556527
ive done this too many times. But I know from experience people prefer a slight 3/4 view
>>2556476
is construction used when drawing reference or just from imagination?
>>2556531
I personally do both... Why wouldn't you not construct for either?
Is this on the right track or is it total shit?
>>2556579
Clothes are difficult and I fucked this leg up real bad, but I needed the pose
also shoulder is too wide
>>2556509
>tfw this girl's face is cute but you don't know why
>>2556556
on the right track
>>2556582
symmetry, rounded equal features (rounded jaw/chin), eyes are clean and simple ( the more shape you need to create an eye, the more grotesque it is), lips are small but buffy, ears are big such as a kid, nose is small such as a kid, fair skin, perfect eyebrows, decently small jaw/head ratio, large forehead but not too large, good thick hair and well organized, eyes do not slouch, double eyelid despite being partially asian, round form languages ( no sharp edges except where you want attention (lips, corned of eyes, eyebrows))
There you go,
>>2556591
oh and she got good lighthing to hide under eye folds that show tiredness
from old thread
>>2556492
man i cant for the life of me get rid of my symbol drawing, this took me 2 hours!!!
>>2556589
Thanks
>>2556602
Check your eye size
I feel like my drawings look better when I scribble more. Is this chicken scratch?
>>2556639
its too much effort to explain, and id make a quick vid for you if this wasnt 4c but for now just look at your plumb lines or use form.
>>2556710
Not necessarily, restating lines give more organic look to drawing.
Chicken scratching is when to draw a line you end it shortly and begin where you ended and again in a loop thus scratching whole length.
If you place whole lines, but then another near it that is slightly "corrected" previous one - it's not chicken scratching. But you need to put your lines properly.
>>2556476
>>2556731
Should I practice values with this?
this is a self portrait, in front of mirror or whatever. i fucked up the mouth a smidge or whatever but i nailed the eyes and nose, i'm super happy w/ it which is cool :^)
>>2556756
in hindsight the nose is a bit crooked but fuck i'm happy with my eyes god dAMN
>>2556731
can you stop using my name by any chance if i ask nicely? ill redline it for you if you do!
>>2556789
huh? you're using MY name! and now you're trying to frame me, you're a real piece of work!
>>2556789
Uh, probably. It should be obvious to some anons that im not you, but then again, some anons here arent bright.
If it really bothers you I'll drop it. I dont need a redline from you
>>2556817
wow now this guy is in on it too, why doesn't the whole thread just go ahead and drag my good name through the dirt
>>2556825
>>2556817
>>2556810
>>2556805
>>2556803
>>2556789
It's such a shame that we haven't cracked how to learn how to draw with really good detail and perspective from imagination. When I first started drawing a few days ago it was because I was so attracted to the idea of making this really cool looking image of anything my imagination came up with.
Now I see all I have before me are Boring studies after boring studies and soul crushing grinding exercises that will ultimately never teach me how to do this. And no matter how good I get it will only be because I had to use a bunch of pictures as a crutch to make the drawing work in the first place. That sucks.
>>2556863
90% of this board will never really produce good stuff but continue trying, if you don't have the talent you should just give up
>>2556863
did you study form?
>>2556863
if you take the time to actually learn how to draw, then you will be able to do what you say. It takes years you idiot. It takes fucking years of work and if you think there's any way it might not, you should just stop now and save yourself disappointment.
>>2556863
That's because drawing from imagination is a big step above from drawing from photos/life. There wouldn't be a beginner imagination drawing thread because it's not for beginners. Imaginative realism by gurney is a good book for it. Shows you step by step what it takes to create a big production painting. If you want to draw a picture of a car for example you should draw 5-10 cars before hand. You can't draw something if you don't know what it looks like.
If you find drawing boring than leave.
>>2556731
I have no sense of scale.
>>2556492
meh
>>2556867
People like you don't actually draw so you should probably get the fuck off this board.
>>2556888
are you on the new wacom line?
>>2556734
Not doing the feet justice. Oh and
>*all art is of equal quality just different style*
Cringe
a comic of mine
>>2556492
Asians are hard to draw.
I would appreciate it if someone would fuck my shit up
>>2556904
like 5-6 year old bamboo.
why?
because I'm less and less pleased with its results and I'm not sure if its the tablet or I need get good (of course I need to get good either way).
>>2556509
KIIIIKOOO
>>2556942
testing the waters with digital and i'm using pencil tool with default settings in firealpaca. that's what I stick to for sketches a lot of the time.
>>2556942
I made some adjustments, mostly to the area around the eyes. I understand the forehead was a little large, but why compare it to my own instead of to the models? That makes no sense to me, and the chin seems as though it would look unnatural if I made it any larger. Could you be more specific?
>>2556476
2 million hours in paint
Oh and I already know that the legs are too short. Trying to draw lulu, the piece of shit.
Any good resources on arm and leg anatomy?
>>2556965
I never use filters but i tried to make it obvious. By yours i mean your drawing.
>>2556965
I'm no expert, but I dig your style, man.
>>2556476
>tfw autistic
>tfw cant draw straight line
>tfw have images/cartoons in my head, but cant translate them onto paper
>>2556868
not that anon, but how does one "study" form? Are there any books/exercises?
>>2557025
No one can draw a straight line
>>2557073
Now you know the true prowess of the Nose Bro
some still lives
>>2557099
>>2557069
vilppu basically
>>2557099
think about the form, try to trace the forms with your pencil. pretend that your pencil is on top of the forms and moving through 3d space even though it's only on a 2d piece of paper.
>>2556580
If this doesn't apply to what/how you're studying, then ignore it, but check the negative spaces in your drawing -- they're all _way_ off from the negative space in the rreference.
If beginners are supposed to start with bowls of fruit, how come OP only posts hot women?
>>2556868
>keeping the cursor in view when taking a snapshot
Git gud nubcake.
>>2557104
I tried to trace the forms with my pencil but after flattening my bottle of wine and various fruits it soon became a very bumpy and sharp drawing surface. Thanks, I'll try again tomorrow.
![IMG_0263[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/rIgOp9T.jpg "IMG_0263[1].jpg")
>>2556493
plis rate
trying to get perspective down. something feels off about the big guy (for you)
>>2557185
Face is flat.
>>2557133
We all skip the bowl of fruit in favor of hot women.
>>2557206
Someone draw a bowl of women, and some hot fruit
>>2557185
wew lad
Trying out new Photoshop Brushes.
I don't know how to proportions, shading or perspective.
Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain has so much uninteresting crap to read holy hell
>>2557256
keys to drawing says hello
>>2557259
Yeah I read it already, you can really see the difference between the two books when it comes to the rambling
>>2557073
show your work?
>>2557191
The ropes have different vanishing points.
I was in trash drawthread and requested the cat backwards but nobody did it, then i tried to do it by myself but it didn't work, tried measuring the "3d form" of the cat with those lines, i don't really know anything of drawing.
What i'm doing wrong?
>>2557321
ayyyyyy
>>2557321
Did you read the sticky?
I've been doing figure drawing for a while now, but how do I know I'm doing it right?
How do I know if it's getting better? Is it it when proportions and angles are captured accurately? Or you should be quick enough to also add some degree of detail on top of the action lines?
Comfort zone and it's not even good
>>2557345
The first one.
Beginner here and i'm reading about http://www.huevaluechroma.com/011.php in the sticky. This information is overwhelming me. Do I really need to learn this to learn to paint with color well?
If its necessary i'll do it but I just wonder if i'm not over complicating things and trying to learn too much
>>2551971
programmer who has realized default windows forms may have cut it in 2002 but now everything needs a visual element to be taken seriously. i've decided to devote my free time from now on to learning "to art"
i've mostly just read books up until now this is the first time i've put it into practice
#1 my method was to pick a point (eg belly button) and then use my pencil to measure to the next landmark but i kept ending up way out of proportion
#2 was trying to break it down into shapes spaced by pencil measuring again but it just looked weird to me.
#3 i did like #2 but instead of measuring out i just looked at the reference as i drew. i did the torso first and then had a lot of trouble placing the head on it and i started running out of focus at that point anyway
>tl;dr
actually did some drawing for the first time after having read books, learned that "blind drawing" isn't a book meme
Still doing that bridgman thing, aren't we?
>>2557149
Push those values
>>2557157
Work on your line quality
>>2557354
I'm seeing some improvement, at least you're trying to do the eyes differently than usual (which was shit) Once you're confortable with your shapes and dexterity, you should drop those thick outlines and start drawing with actual tones.
>>2557387
Ugh, you should watch how the big cats do figures and maybe try to follow them. There's no "right" way to do it, but for me it would be a combination of the 3 listed, so a little bit of construction and a little bit of observational drawing. Also starting from a random point is kind of a bad idea, specially if your measuring is not developed (which explains why your figure ends out of proportion), you should always work from big to small, always look for the biggest forms/shapes and attack those first, it will be a lot easier to compare the rest of the parts if you have the biggest already down on paper. Dunno man, figure drawing is a pretty difficult subject to start with, but i'm wishing you luck on your journey to gittin gud.
I'm trying to improve my figure drawing with both imagination and reference drawing. Haven't gotten to doing the arms or leg muscles much yet but I feel like there is something wrong with all of my figures that I can't quite pinpoint.
Someone please tell me what the fuck I'm doing wrong
>>2556492
>Tfw no liquify tool
>>2557437
trying too hard
>>2556476
took me 4 hours to make this, pretty satisfied.
From the previous thread, kinda looks like Kirsten Dunst in the face
>>2557515
you should overlay it over the reference
theres just way too many mistakes
Study for thread have a nice day
Almost 2 hours. One day I will get a scanner
maybe
>>2557612
Reference
help please with anatomy?.
Pecs definitely need help.
>>2557185
its better now
>>2557191
For perspective, an easy rule to remember is that things get smaller as they get farther away. Seems obvious, but in your picture for example the left should and left foot HAVE to be smaller than their counterparts since they are farther away. This rule alone is pretty much all you need to know for perspective if you properly apply it to everything.
>>2557680
Just start a new drawing instead of trying to make this one look better.
>>2557685
i guess
the paper is damaged from erasing anyways
>>2557513
this is my other image i posted in another beginner thread. any tips n tricks?
Why is it so hard to make character look like they are standing on solid ground?
>>2557723
thats one fucking ugly dwarf
>>2557437
It feels like you can't set up the box that makes up your torso in perspective honestly you just need to do draw a box ib think its drawabox.com or Google how to draw a box the first 3 lessons are what you need, but you need the whole course, I went through your stage, every pose I did the torso was pointing forward like you'rs, honestly Google it and do it
i'm so terrible at everything that I literally want to shove my drafting pencil through my thigh.
thank you for listening please like comment and subscribe
>>2556492
please give a critique
>>2557764
s'gud
>>2557767
thank
>>2556481
>having no eraser is suffering
>>2557785
forgot pic.
>>2557764
is this a photo at an angle?
>>2557806
yah sorry
did I finally make it?
did I do a good?
>>2557764
>tfw when you realize he draw "Fun with Pencil" Loomis caricature down to cheeks
>>2557856
ya i saw that too. Hes drawing from imagination from reference.
>>2557856
haha guess you are right, my bad.
heads from the study thread.
>>2557908
oh wow this is great!
lol jk i hate you shitmaster.
>>2556481
why is her leg coming out of her vagina wtf?
>>2556489
last for today.
i'll be good one day
>>2557920
fuck you too, nose
>>2557983
Dont scribble man, look for shapes.
can i loomis
>>2556492
critique pls
from imagination
did i do it right?
Why are ovals harder to draw than circles? Could I get some help?
>>2557966
how
>>2556497
going to be honest i didn't really get into this one
>>2556489
>>2558091
Lightsource is really muted, the shadow wouldn't be so crisp under the ball if that's even supposed to be the shadow. It look as base made of black plastic or something.
pls rate my titties, /ic/?
i dunno much about drawing, i just like sitting in the back corner of lecture and draw titties.
but then one day it struck me that maybe they're no good.
please help, /ic/
>>2558317
was this your reference?
>>>2557104
Thanks for the tip!
Tried again with your advice.
So I finally got around to trying to learn form. I watched Sycra's video and it helped me a bit. So I tried to draw a bunch of 3D objects (not in perspective) and I feel it is helping me understand 3D.
Any inputs?
>>2558345
my favorite thing to appear on /3/
>>2558366
if you wanna learn about forms and 3d objects go to drawabox not sycra.
can somebody explain this sorcery?
>>2558385
Any colour can appear to be black if the somethingsomething is low enough.
>>2558391
yeah but why from blue? i mean you can see the green of the trees
>>2556580
It is a difficult photo to begin with because the entire idea behind this lifestyle is belance, you will find this within the pose. Try it out in front of the mirror and try to find out when you trip and how your limbs are at that moment. Clothes are of a later concern.
He is falling over.
Start by not, ever, chopping off his foot. You can simply put in a triangle if you find it too hard to draw and practice later.
Same tip for: >>2557185
>>2557387
>>2557437
>>2557680 (what the fuck)
>>2557786
>>2558102
>>2558306
Come of folks, people are not just gonna live without limbs because you find them hard to draw.
>>2558393
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerial_perspective
>>2558400
It makes me wonder what kind of construction method they use, if any at all.
>>2558115
Dunno. Tried sketching the proportions a few times and superimposing them on the reference to check. Once I got them more or less right... just drew. Funny thing is I discovered halfway better ways to do stuff (e.g: left eye vs right), and could have gone back to fix things like the right side of the hair, the irises, shadows, the mouth, the turtleneck... but it was 2 a.m.
tl;dr: I'm just a noob who spent 100 hours in SAI.
>>2558414
It is a beginner thread after all.
Not that I am very advanced but I have had some classes and I remember doing that stuff as a kid. And the improvement when I found out most people can not by fooled by such nonsense ;) Same with 'hiding' the hands behind a characters back.
>>2557983
draw what you see, not what you think
>>2558414
I'm made this >>2557975 and this >>2557786 and I use loomis, which makes it easier to draw poses but doesn't help with perspective.
Also >>2557786 the foot is missing because I miscalculated the space on the paper.
>>2558449
>Also >>2557786 the foot is missing because I miscalculated the space on the paper.
So start over. If you mess up again, start over. Still not happy? Start over. But NEVER amputate unless you intend to for whatever reason. Placement is the absolute most basic skill. You can crop the image always but never add.
>>2557816
From looking at the thumbnail, I thought this was a sculpture. So in that respect, you did good.
>>2557816
Pretty good. The brushwork is still too messy, use bigger brushes and make clean shapes, or blend.
You could get rid of the lines as well.
mmmh i think i'm starting to get how it works a little
Still didn't study perspective, but have it on "to do" list
~2 week progress
>>2558385
color and value is relative
>>2556476
On chapter 1 of Vilppu's Sketching on Location
>>2558385
The further you go in the distance, the more air there will be between you and the object. Because of Rayleigh scattering air shifts colors to blue. So the further away something is, the blue-er. If you ever get the chance to see mountains in the far off distance youll see it.
>>2558074
youre at that point where you either have to go full copy machine or start constructing shapes such as the nose.
>>2558385
>>2558590
>>2558592
>>2558594
>>2558595
look at the last mountain in the back for this one.
will the real nose "im a nigger fag" bro please stand up
>>2558646
can't wait for all this shitposting with my name to be over.
>>2558646
I am the real Nodes Bro
>>2558646
nay, i am the reel nose brah.
>>2558653
this is honestly one of the most creative bits ive seen yet.
>>2558654
and i guess your version is also funny.
>>2558592
That is a beautiful shot.
>>2558672
I cant use a tripcode since my tech hasnt set it up yet.
where can I find your art nose bro?
>>2558674
I can send you a floppy drive if you give me your address
>>2558680
wat
>>2557966
oh. since youre probably not gonna get good crit here you can go up one thread in the future. By the way, stop trying to draw every single line. in doing so you missed the subtilities of the drawing, line the uneveness of the back of the hair, the clump of eyelashes, how the eyes come back almost square on the inside part, how the ear is barely visible, the softness of the lips, the cleanlyness of eyes,etc. Focus on big shapes and use value. You probably come from a strong paper background with pencil and it really shows. Pencil is a tool to hide mistakes by letting the mind fill in information. Digital is meant to be simplified. Since IRL you dont see every strand anyway.
>>2557321
The shilouette of front and back are the same.
>>2558102
source for top right chick?
>>2558721
Asia :^)
How do you pick up/ get back into drawing after only doing it at minimum effort or just straight up not doing anything or even studying for like 3 months ?
>>2557908
noses are off-balance, not centered
what is up with those skulls even
1.Stop being a little bitch
2.Dunk your head in ice cold water and scream until you run out of breath
3.Draw, refuel on coffee
>>2556493
It's my first time doing this or even posting on /ic/, so
Roast me good
>>2558738
okay.
i tried drawing something from imagination today
>>2558762
better than me lol
>>2558762
what is up with that line quality of yours even
>>2558773
I must have Parkinsons or something. I don't like it either. I think it may be that im on a small wacom tablet and i refuse to rotate the canvas. I'm working on getting rid of my bad habits
>>2558777
trips say yes
>>2558777
no we should circle jerk each other
>>2558798
>>2558795
>>2558780
>>2558779
>>2558777
it's a name not a cult. but if it was a cult, the cult leader is against the idea.
>>2558809
>its a name
Then dont worry about it. I'll just call it, "Intermediate Thread 'Nose Bro Edition'." Hows that sound?
nose bro just kill yourself already holy fucking shit
>>2558826
do it, hopefully mods will ban me if it gets on their nerves enough.
>>2558809
its more then a name its a way of life
>>2558837
Im not trying to blatantly shitpost. Whats the "intermediate thread" going to have, that isnt found in other threads?
>>2558848
only nose bro can post in it
>>2558849
Mods and Janitors will shut it down fast. The "nose bro edition" in the title will imply all Nose Bros can post.
If most of the Nose Bros in the thread are samefags, it will be removed quickly; as well.
So most, if not all, Nose Bros should post in the thread. Yet allow other anons to post.
Should the Intermediate thread focus on Fine Arts and Master Studies? Should the thread focus on anything else?
>>2558855
>Mods and Janitors will shut it down fast.
They never shut anything down fast. I'm pretty sure it's like one dude who does it for the whole board and he probably has a life so doesn't waste all day vigilantly cleaning up /ic/.
>>2558867
Most of the drawings in that thread are stylized. And there isnt a set agenda in that thread too.
The Beginner Thread is to help beginners. The Stylized thread is to get crits in general as well as on style. Whats the Draw thread for? Quick crits? Porn thread, for crits on Porn
The "Intermediate Thread: Nose Bro Edition" will focus on Fine Arts and Master Studies. I'd call it Master Studies Thread, but that wouldnt get enough traffic as Intermediate Thread; at least I dont think it will. But I dont think focusing soley on FIne arts and Master studies can justify an Intermediate Thread. So what else should the thread focus on?
>>2558868
I hope youre right
>>2558888
>So what else should the thread focus on?
we should change our nose bro titles every thread, and whoever correctly guesses who the true nosebro is gets a redline from the master himself.
>>2558888
Nice quads. Also it the thread should be called "Nobody Nose"
>>2558855
i drew that picture with watercolors
>>2558888
How about just focus it on general studies of others work whom you wish to emulate? That way our first study can be of the glorious progenitor of the nose bros himself, nose bro the first.
>>2556493
should've used a smaller brush
Is there a comprehensive list of good exercises for each fundamental of drawing? I want to work on my construction/form but I'm not exactly sure how I should go about it.
>>2558721
No clue, bro. All of my asian pics are from asian threads on /b/.
fuck my mouth
its all im good for
>>2558926
>latin girl
who?
>>2558931
Slow down and try to observe more closely what the shapes are. Get it down accurately. Don't scribble your lines but try to get them precise and clean.
Also do it with pencil and paper, not on a tablet.
>>2558897
>just focus it on general studies
Alright, should the thread start with reference photos and pages from anatomy books?
>That way our first study can be of the glorious progenitor of the nose bros himself, nose bro the first
The first post after OP MUST ALWAYS be Nose Bro's drawings
Going through Draw A Box Lesson 3.
Looking through some old drawings. Apart from the obvious distortion at the top of the face, how could I/would you improve this?
Some studies, any feedback, specially on the back study? I just started to render the figure, goddamn it takes some time, compared to sketching, does it get faster with time?
>>2558909
You want to construct something, then look at a thing, break it down to simple forms like cillinders, cubes, etc. and arrange those forms to construct the thing, some perspective here and there and voila
>>2558958
nice man, I couldn't go past the cubes lesson or w/e from DAB, helped me a lot anyways as an intro to perspective.
>>2559000
I would draw it again/draw something else and move on, face is pretty fucked up to make corrections at this point
>>2559000
>old drawings
why would you lie on an anonymous image board?
>>2558909
scott robertson's how to draw
peter han's dynamic sketching. drawabox is a poor quality substitute for this.
michael hampton's analytical figure drawing
sometimes they'll give you specific exercises, other times they'll just give you an example of a technique. take that example and do it yourself repeatedly, first correcting any mistakes you made, then making slight variations in what you're trying to do - as per sycra's "iterative drawing" video on youtube - until you feel comfortable with the material.
seems like every single animal will take just as much time to learn as humans. I'll be in the grave before i get good
http://imgur.com/a/NMKPw
I haven't improved in a long time I think its because I copy a lot of other artist, its really hard for me to draw from scratch and learn figure drawing because im so impatient, but im working on that. any advice besides get a better camera fagot?
>>2556476
Thoughts On this sketch so far. it's still ruff
>>2559056
Wtf forgot pic fml
>>2557071
speak for yourself
>>2558931
Whats the point in having a reference if you aren't even going to attempt to draw it.
>>2559010
> I couldn't go past the cubes lesson
Tell me about it, he asked me to do the 250 box challenge and I'm stalled at 50.
>>2559080
why are you stalled?
>>2559074
the point of a reference isnt to copy it.
>>2559084
ANON IS LOOKING FOR SHORT-CUTS AGAIN
>>2559084
It's not a very engaging task and it's very easy to avoid doing it. Doesn't help that there has been a heatwave here, but I can only work in the evening so need to use my 3,000 degree kelvin desk lamp.
Basically my fineliner dries during ghosting lines and it makes a chore more of a chore. He's on break for the month so I might just leave it for the moment.
>>2559094
do 1,000 boxes anon
>>2559034
You'll improve better if you learn construction before attempting animals and humans, senpai.
>>2559101
Explain
