Hello /ic/, is there some kind of magic happening at art schools?
I have a chance to go to California for a year to study drawing, the thing is I'm a poorfag and feel responsible for my family's well-being.
Is there something that I'm missing, that I can't learn on my own/from the internet?
Thanks.
You're poor and feel responsible for your family's well-being? Then why would you ever want to be an artist or have that as a profession if you care about your family and need an actual job to support them.
>>2526913
I'm 18, by family I meant my parents. I don't have many needs, I just don't feel right when I see them worried or arguing. I would hate to make them invest in me if it's not necessary.
Art schools are good for networking and acquiring skillsets. You can acquire the skills you need by devoting yourself to your art at home. There's plenty of faces in the industry that don't have a school paper to their name. If you're really into art, you really won't need art school as there are much cheaper ways to git gud at home. IDK what the state of art schools in the US is, but across the pond a paper means quite little when compared to a beefy portfolio.
Thanks, I wouldn't want any opinions to cater to my situation tho. I have heard very mixed opinions on art schools in general, ranging from a necessity to a waste of time.
>>2526939
Not a necessity by a long shot, nor a waste of time. They're generally on the pricier side of stuff you can blow your nuggets on, but they help you get to know people in the industry and, if having attended a "proper"/respectable school, receive really good feedback and direction. You can get all of that at quite a discount (or even free) elsewhere but it takes more dedication as there's no pressing weight of debt or mountains of money invested hanging over your shoulder driving you forward — you'll have to motivate yourself, no exceptions.
>>2526917
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I started out this way anon... and when they saw that I was improving alot and drawing good pictures also when I explain too them the many things i can do with this skill they start to understand and even support me. just go for it anon.
Seems to me like a waste of money.
>>2526908
Being good human being is better than being good artist. (Also no one wants to work with assholes)
It depends on you family situation.
If your family will "suffer" by you going to school (How much it is btw?) then don't.
If you stay at home and grind your way up, you will have to compensate for social aspect of school.
Fundamentals you can get on internet (as long as you are not retard and can clearly see why your art is bad and why it is bad)
Also surround yourself by people with different style and skillz.
If you go, the pressure of possible failing can push you further but it will also steer you
more towards commercial art (whether that 's good is up to you to decide).
You will make friends and try things that can broaden your views on art
(You are 18 you have no fucking idea what you actually want to do in life unless you try it and either hate it or like it)
If it's good school, having a title can help in climbing the career ladder. (Unless you are god tier artist, having a degree
can give you around 30% head start when applying to positions)
good luck
>>2526985
It would come to about $21k (I get a $45k scholarship), but it can be misleading, as I live in central Europe where $1 can buy you two beers. Both my parents make about $12k a year.
Thank you all for advice, I very much appreciate it.
>>2526908
do it
>>2527106
>$1 can buy you two beers
Holy fuck
>>2527106
Why don't you stay in europe and njoy free education. At least for a year or something until you make sure you really want to go to USA. Personally I don't think it's worth it if you are from Europe. If you parents were making USA tier money then maybe, but like this it's questionable.
>>2526908
If your parents didn't manage to make it, why do you feel obliged to pay them for doing nothing? They could've at least save up money for education, but I guess their alcohol and cigarettes are more important.
>>2527106
1. Do you live in Poland? And if so, where and which university/school?
2. Student loans exist
3. You can try working during your studies part time.
>>2527158
Not that kind of people.
>>2527178
Czech republic, the land of beer and porn.
Our relatives would lend us the money, the problem is that we also have a $73k mortgage that makes splashing out not feel right.
They say that the schools in the US are something entirely different, also I have some self-esteem issues that they hope it could fix.
Okay, so what does art school really give you that you can't get online now?
I've heard a lot of people that have went saying it's a waste and that a few sessions or workshops is fine. It's not like you need to get accredited to apply anywhere like a real degree, you just need to actually be good with an impressive portfolio.
>>2527197
That's pretty much my initial question. I hear a lot of people saying what a unique experience it is and that I should do all this stuff now that I'm young and without any bad habits.
>>2527202
I feel you don't get bad habits by copying enough drawings from really good people. I'd say stay at home and use nma or WattsAtelier
>>2527195
Don't, then. If you have that kind of monetary liability, do not do it.
The one thing it's done for me is heavily reinforced my identity as someone who is skilled at the trade. Even if you find fundamentals courses underwhelming, the in person feedback from professionals is good. I haven't had a poor experience with it so far.
>>2526908
If you do go, work ahead and sit in the front row of every class. Do more than an assignment requires. You're wasting your money unless you sincerely attempt to self-challenge.
>>2527195
Don't do this. Better get a job and help your parents and yourself in that way. You can become artist without being in school and when you will have at least a job that will make you independent, you can make attending a drawing course or atelier a good alternative. In some cases even better.
If you want to git gud then go to an atelier.
>>2526929
it's the same, except that piece of paper tends to cost a fuckton more
maybe people are more bitter about art school here cause of that
but I agree it can be good in some cases
>>2526908
if you're poor don't go if it's going to make you even more poor. you can learn on your own, but if you do that I would still suggest you try stuff like schoolism or other online workshops from time to time. it gets demotivating to have no interaction with any artists.
>>2527106
too much based on those numbers, don't go imo. especially if you feel like you have no confidence. you get the most out of school if you come ready. and that feeling of debt/financial pressure is going to be tough.
>>2527197
>>2527202
as someone who went to one of the few decent ones (for animation, though) - there's more to learning than simply information. the negative side of complete self learning is that you don't go through group critiques (this helps build character, cuts down on egos), you don't discuss your art/other people's art with others in person, you don't work around other artists (despite what people say online sometimes, it's hard to consistently work for a long time by yourself) or go through the feelings of competition, camaraderie, etc, or feel inspired by visiting pros, or meet with recruiters...
but you can definitely do it on your own. there's no magic at school that makes you get good. especially now that there's so much online.
