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>Thread study: Try to draw/paint the opening or any other following images.
Feel free to post your original works as well if you're trash.
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Old thread: >>2513379
classic
threadly reminder to feel around the eye when you draw
Asking again, is this decent for a 3 week old tablet user? Tips on shading in SAI?
blah
>>2517013
I dig this. Though the same-shade purple under her nose gives a slight illusion of a mustache..
>>2517010
Everybody moves at their own pace.
>>2517013
Weird question but do you have a linework of this?
I made some improvements to my post in the last thread but I'm still struggling with likeness a lot.
>>2517013
how long have you been painting?
since you are already better than illistrat
>>2517013
what tablet do you use
Are there any books that help you think in 3D? I've been reading up on loomis and doing the first drawabox exercises
I feel like I have a giant issue though with all my drawings being as flat as a pancake
>>2517023
kek does too
>>2517030
attached, i accidently painted over it so this is all i have
>>2517037
dunno this is prob 20th or so, did a couple acrylics and a fuckton of drawing
>>2517043
wacom something http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71MfxvKW9OL._SL1500_.jpg
>>2516988
Please no one use this for anatomy reference
>>2517034
I told you to add less detail in the hair but now you've got too few. (Unless this is still WIP. But keep in mind). Basically, your previous level of detail in certain focus areas + your current level of detail (or a lil bit more) for the rest.
You're getting closer at capturing the value range. Remember that you can squint to compare values on the fly, or run both your pic and ref in a desaturate filter in photoshop.
My attempt at OP's image.
Have recently got back into it after 4 year absence.
>>2517076
It's definitely still WIP, I'm really new at this so I'll probably keep playing with it for a long time. Nevertheless I appreciate your feedback a lot, thank you for giving such good critiques!
>>2517076
Also I don't have photoshop, is it worth buying? It seems really expensive.. Right now I'm using Painter Essentials 5 since it came with my tablet, is this program any good?
I need to learn to draw better feet
How did I do?
>>2517102
Badly.
>>2517102
Feet are not what you should be worrying about currently. Study anatomy in general, and proportions.
>>2517105
Anything specifically looking horrible?
>>2517010
I feel like you're trying to do a bit too much here. Maybe focus on learning your fundamentals for a while and just keep a big document with line sketches for ideas like this to be developed more when you know what you're doing.
I try to draw with a style now and then as well as trying to draw photo realistically, but whenever I try to draw something in style from imagination, it looks off. Especially with this angle, the far side of the head where the eye socket is and where the cheek bone comes out is always off. I don't know how to fit an eye in there properly.
Any help?
>>2517106
The torso is much too stubby. The shins are not nearly long enough and they should become much thinner on the bottom. The musculature you drew is not real, it looks very made-up. The face is an interesting stylistic choice, but overall your drawing doesn't look like the model at all, which is why it's better to learn realism before you adopt a style. Styles are a "shorthand" of realism. You can't understand the acronym "SNAFU" if you don't first know the words "situation normal all fucked up."
>>2517111
That's because a "style" is really a different way of drawing something you already know how to draw, like writing in cursive after you can already write in print. Styles like the cartoon style you're trying to emulate are a basic way to imply a complex thing. If you don't understand how to draw the complex thing from many different angles, you can't accurately simplify it. pic related.
>>2517126
I see. I was hoping for a hint as to what in particular is wrong. I'm gonna move on with my head drawing course anyway, it goes over realistic proportions and has life drawing exercises.
Thanks for the help friend.
>>2517098
photoshop cs5 is free
>>2517149
Wow, really? :O Is it a trial version? Where can I get it?
>>2517149
wat
I'm trying to git gud at drawing on a tablet but every edge that I draw comes out rough and jagged. I consider myself decent with paper, as I can easily draw nice flowing lines. Where does the translation come from?
>>2517126
I'm incredibly new to making visual art (bought a sketchbook last night and started trying to draw only just today) and have been trying to use Loomis' "Fun with a pencil" which seems to be recommended for beginners. But that book seems to mostly be teaching a caricature style instead of realism. I know that the point of the book is to teach basic forms and things like that but should I be starting somewhere else instead?
>>2517102
Are you black?
>>2517156
You need to learn how your paint program works.
>>2517157
If you read all the way through "Fun with a pencil," it's not just caricatures. It teaches realism too. However, the cartoony figures he has you draw in the beginning are good exercise for building the understanding that everything is made up of shapes.
>>2517162
How do I just magically learn how it works?
Or do I need to just fiddle with it until I understand it?
>>2517149
anon pls deliver :O :O :O
>>2517161
Is it because of the way I draw noses or lips?
or is it because chicken-scratch is common among black artists?
>>2517169
Facial features and shape language in general.
So many black artists draw like that.
>>2517164
Really hate snide answers like
>>2517161
Condescending, doesn't help at all.
Do you know your tablet settings? Are the drivers installed properly?
You can look up tutorials for basic features, but I think pen control is your issue. Try these exercises and see if it helps. I used them and they helped me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgDNDOKnArk
Don't stress too much about getting it 100% perfect, you arent a robot, but make sure your lines are confident and consistent enough not to take away from your drawings.
>>2517163
yeah i haven't finished it by any means but i did flip through it to see what was later on. i'll keep at it, thanks.
I don't have the discipline to ever be a halfway decent artist, but I still want to have fun drawing. What are some fun, easy things to doodle?
>>2517184
Anime
>>2517182
Keep going, you can do it :^) drawing is a hobby you'll have for life, because you can always improve.
Also, the freaky little caricature heads in the beginning help you practice circles, and making good circles is really important for the ball method, which is a pretty good way of making faces and heads and whatnot.
>>2517184
Zen tangles. Super time-consuming and winds up looking interesting, but is really pretty easy.
>>2517175
I honestly only recently started drawing my noses wider because I had been designing some black characters so much.
>>2517176
Wasn't meant to be snide. Just had a shitty day senpai. Anyway, I fiddled with it some more and came out with this
>>2517214
I didn't mean you were snide, I meant the guy saying you need to understand how your program works was.
Its just a very vague and dismissive statement.
So I'm 36 pages into Drawing the Head and Hands by Loomis, this is a drawing I did in about 5 minutes. Rip me apart senpai
>>2517102
It might not look like that strong lady, but it's cool to look at.
I'm very high at the moment.
any tips for hair? I'm about to go to town on this old wip, started off already by laying down the basic colors.
Should incorporate a special brush for the hair or can I get away with just using same brushes I use for everything else? I usually use a hard round or rect brush, but will occasionally use a soft round brush also.
>>2517229
ref
>>2517229
Separate the hair into chunks of shape, don't try to paint the strands
Is it OK to try drawing portraits when I'm a beginner, or is that just going to build bad habits?
>>2517291
it will be very frustrating especialy from photos
>Draw it
>Flip it over
I can't stop fucking laughing.
>>2517301
kek
>>2517291
... how would drawing build bad habits?
>>2517310
symbol drawing, bad line work, I don't know.
>>2517312
I think you meant "is it bad to start out with portrait drawing as a beginner?"
If that's the case, I strongly recommend understanding construction and things like that before jumping into portraits. As for symbol drawing, there is no way to get around it other than drawing (of course, with a conscious effort to not symbol draw).
I often ask this question but here goes again.
What's some stuff to draw when I "just want to practice"?
E.g. drawing from life, gesture drawing, figure drawing
More things like these but perhaps exercises for perspective or lighting or something?
>you've been drawing lines for hours but still can't get that perfect good line consistently
>Lord Scotty Robertson tells you you can't move on until you get those consistent strokes
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGHAAAAAAA
>>2517329
take a break, friendo. the brain etches in learned things during rest/sleep
>>2517327
do everything you just listed
>>2517347
Ya, I just meant are there also other things to add to that list, when I'm bored of those 3.
>>2517352
practice your fundamentals
I've been doing Keys to Drawing for a bit. I'm just having trouble with one thing. Should I be doing the projects over and over again? It just feels kind of odd to just draw an object and never look back at it.
Is there any hope in gesture drawing if you don't know anything about anatomy? The only anatomy I know is from what I've observed from looking at references and books (and from looking at myself in the mirror) but I haven't done any formal study.
>>2517388
Gesture is not about anatomy it's about the shape.
Draw what you see. Look for angles that are important to a pose and exaggerate them.
>>2517388
Yes. Also do 1,000 of these and then we'll talk. Remember to reinforce your knowledge from several sources. Loomis, Proki, Vilppu, bridgman, alphonso dunn, all of them offer good advice on technique.
>>2517391
problem is whenever i draw them they just look like glorified clay models but mostly whenever i watch shit like proko he uses a lot of anatomical knowledge to get it right
Tried to draw more with shadows than I did with contours
>>2517347
Watch your fave movie and take screenshots. Study the composition of the shots, study the colors in the shot, study how value is distributed and how high value and low value shapes are arranged/shaped.
>>2517410
ok man, thanks a lot!
How does one think in 3D to avoid having flat drawings?
I do my best to study the fundamentals + draw random things and I still have trouble with 2D everything looks
It would make me feel heaps better if I could have a rough estimate of how long it would take and exactly what I have to do to have more 3D drawings
>>2517406
thats a good direction to go in cause its shows that u are looking more at abstracted shapes. That being said, don't forget to draw lines to get your proportions correct before you start drawing the details. the underdrawing is more than half the battle
>>2517426
Continue to be analytical and study the simple shapes of the things u draw. try to "see through" the objects. It really just comes with time and practice. So just keep at it. when I was teaching myself the same thing I would sometimes take boxes or cans and just move them around my field of vision while attempting to take in how perspective effects the angles and shapes of objects
I think my shitty boxes might be getting slightly less shitty, and I feel better in control of my lines. baby steps :/
How to improve gestures>?
>>2517541
keep repeating but keep in mind to work on the accuracy of your flow. Use master academy of art on youtube for gesture exercises.
When branching into digital art, should you place some emphasis on learning and mastering certain programs like PS or is it still the basics that matter most? I feel like I'm beginning half anew whenever I switch from Krita to PS to SAI or whatever.
>>2517541
these look like 30sec-1min gestures, that cross contour is completely unnecessary, in fact you're only drawing them as straight lines so they're not serving any purpose anyway. you're drawing these gestures by bumps and shapes, not by action lines. use long, curved. C, S and a few I, use lines that only shows the flow of the pose.
Close to 4 hours. Can't get the face right for the life of me.
>>2517619
Everything in your drawing is distorted. You got the general shapes right - sort of - but the angles are off. I urge you to study the bargue plates and the method of constructing a drawing by breaking down curves into straight lines. Also, faces are hard. Especially if you're working from a low resolution reference. Unless you're focusing on portraits, consider making the faces simple without not too much details. When we studied the figure at the atelier I went to we were always told not to spend too much time on the face even though we spent weeks on the same charcoal pose. Working digital is much faster ofcourse, but getting a likeness takes time.
>>2517619
>>2517638
Here I drew some straight lines to demonstrate how you can observe relationships in your drawing. You don't necessarily have to draw every one of these lines, but you should look for them. Can you see how just a few of these straight lines makes the errors in your study apparent? When I studied Bargue drawing at the atelier they always stressed the importance of nailing these fundamental relationships between shapes before anything else.
>>2517647
forgot pic
>try portrait without starting from toned background
>try hatching
>realize I don't know how to hatch
>realize I don't know how to measure
>realize I don't know how to draw
Ebin
>>2517638
do you have a link for this book?
>>2517685
I didn't learn the Bargue method through a book, but at a school. You can find a ton of stuff on Bargue stuff if you just google. Hint: there is a url in the image.
Did I do it?
>>2517740
yeah
you did it anon
you did it
>>2517102
You should look at the reference more, honestly
Your feet are just in a straight line, and your pinkie-toe is longer than your big toe
Honestly, just pay closer attention to your ref, and don't be afraid to erase and try again.
>>2517740
blog?
>>2517105
Feet are part of both of those things.
FOR THE LOVE OF FUCK
STOP DRAWING ANIME YOU BEGINNERNIGGERS
STOP MAKING THE SAME MISTAKE I DID AHHHHHH
I want to improve my current skills, I'm working on fundamentals rather than do complete draws but that's not enough for me. What you can guys say about this piece and what should I practice the most?
I downloaded a bunch of art books and got some materials but I just don't know where to start or what to do and on the rare occasion that I do draw I feel like shit because I'm terrible what the fuck is wrong with me?
>>2517851
The lighting is really inconsistent, like he has an ambient sort of lighting on him but then a strong cast shadow. Try doing some studies of still lifes or photos or master copies.
>>2517497
Mental illness.
>>2517932
I'm just trying to improve and have some fun, sorry if I did something wrong
>>2517851
That right hand thumb area looks so weird.
>>2517907
Just draw, anon. Draw some simple shapes, draw from life, go through one of the books slowly. I'm in the same situation. I figured that I shouldn't overwhelm myself with information. Learn something new everyday, even if it almost seems insignificant. The smallest bits can carry you far. If you try to do everything at once, your brain won't be able to take in the information and you'll just end up as a mess. Your art will also be real shitty at first. You'll want to give up. You'll have days where you don't draw at all. You'll seem unmotivated. But just remember the small things that you do. The completed pieces. It will be stressful at times, but I'm sure we can make it. Rain before the rainbow.
>>2517907
>Download bunch of books
>See first chapter
>"Hey that seems simple enough"
>See second chapter
>Fuck up on first exercise
>"Well, that was a good run"
>Quit the whole thing
I dont know where you find inner motivation to continue this ass-blasting.
I don't understand how you meant to do shading with digital art. If you drawing with a pencil you can get rid of the lines by doing shading, but it feels like everything is felt tip when doing digital.
Sort of end of with a scratchy pic like related.
>>2517840
I just want to draw cute girls anon.
Is that such a crime?
>>2518062
if you don't learn how parts of the body and face work in real-life and how it transitions to a stylized form, your cute girls are gonna come out as abominations
>>2518011
If you just quit as soon as you fuck up you're not going to get far in art. Like most skills, perhaps more so, art is going from fuck up to fuck up and just trying to fuck up incrementally less each time.
eyes too high up?
>>2518070
this is very stylized
you rotate the eyes 90 degrees and it'd be fine
>>2518029
I wish the new sticky was still being made, this sort of question would be good in it
>>2518070
listen, I know it's a meme now because too many people are throwing it around, but learn basic face proportions or read loomis.
same distance from hairline to eyebrows, to nose base, to chin.
>>2518070
Yes. Maybe draw the skull first and then put the features on.
>>2518090
amazing how much better it looks when you chop off all the space between the eyes and nose
>>2517388
You're not good enough for figure drawing yet IMO. Work through Keys to Drawing and get more confident with your accuracy and lines.
If you really want to though, spend a lot more time on construction. A lot. Just copy out the mannequins from all the different figure books, Vilppu, Hampton and Loomis. Be really patient and do it right.
>>2517948
Ignore shitposters
You might want to take a look at Perspective Made Easy. It's a pretty basic book, and it'll help you to get some of the wonkiness out of your forms.
>>2518114
Dont let fancy brushes distract you from being accurate
>>2518090
loomis
>>2518011
spoken by a man with no discipline in his entire life
>>2518011
>I dont know where you find inner motivation to continue this ass-blasting.
Try needing to eat and pay bills in a shitty economy.
Tried extremely stylized way.
Felt like I f***-ed up other than the /jp/ way
>MFW a loomis book here costs around $250 before tax.
>>2518174
>buying loomis
Vilppu or Loomis for anatomy
>>2518176
>Not buying loomis
Okay, so I've been lurking around these beginner threads for a couple weeks now and only started really working on my fundamentals and such for a week or so. I was looking around an artist know as Sycra Yasin's YouTube channel and LOVE his style with the light colors and cell shading, etc. I also noticed he had a basis on realism art (and a lot of it). That's something I'm not a fan of and I was wondering if it would be wise of me to stray away from that and stick to my more cartoonist desires. Again, calling myself a beginner is an understatement, but I don't want to waste time on something I have no desire for.
>>2518200
Reality is the basis of fantasy. You're not gonna make it.
>>2518206
Aye, aye, cap'n. I won't give up. I'll just keep in mind it's for a greater goal. I have to live in reality every day anyway, can't be that bad.
how long does it take to study a book like Loomis or Hogarth?
>>2518200
Sycra has objectively "good" art, but just be wary of his advice about doing things. When you've been doing art for ten years and your stuff still looks like that it's a red flag.
Which one first? Keys to Drawing, draw a box, or drawing on the right side of the brain?
>>2518219
DOTRSOTB then DAB then KTD
>>2518214
Well, he admits that for the first years of his "career" he wasn't at all doing anything correctly. I am not currently making much progress with his advice on the face (though I shouldn't even be attempting that yet), but I was sure that was my personal experience. I assume you would primarily suggest what's in the sticky?
>>2518103
holy fuck thats terrible. I'm not one to be an ass for redlines but wait another 4 months before you try again.
>>2518114
i like it despite blatant inaccuracy
>>2518029
>I don't understand how you meant to do shading with digital art. If you drawing with a pencil you can get rid of the lines by doing shading, but it feels like everything is felt tip when doing digital.
>>2518083
I still do some every once in a while ( anons tip page 26 or so) as well as Page (his name) and others are taking care of formatting and resourcing, sometimes with some writing and condensing. It's just that this is refining period so theres not much to add anymore.
PS: dont understand the question
I'm learning perspective and managed to learn how to draw lines and boxes along with ellipses (but ellipses need a ton of work)
But I want to learn how illustrators draw figures while still using perspective.
I know that the general rule is to use those view points/converging lines.
Sorry for the super lazy example of pic realted but I want to make my figures look less distorted
how do I do that?
>>2518214
If I may, do you perhaps know of any artists who do his sort of art style, but better. You say he draws well enough but that implies you've seen better iterations on that style. If so, I would be very much grateful to know where you might have seen it
>>2518114
Lay off the texture, it's excessive and distracting.
sorry for bitching last time. Still trying to get things right with anatomy.
Please don't think my drawings are shitposting. I just want to gitgud.
>>2518262
Rather than inventing things try to do some studies from photos first. You need to work on being able to observe proportions and things before you can move onto what you are trying to do now.
>>2516980
>>2518263
I did this sketch on a reference. Don't know if its any better.
>>2518262
As one of the atoms that responded to your posts earlier, I do understand your frustration and I'm glad you're still putting forward the effort. You're trying to create full body figures off the cuff when you only have a really basic idea of proportion. You should study anatomy and create poses based on referenced as opposed to trying to create posing from scratch.
>>2518271
It's looks like you're rushing in and giving no credence to proportions or even really studying the reference image. Have you read any books or anything on proportion and posing?
>>2518282
I read measurement on loomis Figure Drawing.
Just measure the body parts and go from there.
I'm confused.
>>2518281
It's better only by a very very slight margin. Only thing separating this from your previous drawingstudies is that you've attempted to create more shapes and parts to the body
>>2518284
Possibly try and read from more and see what makes sense to you. Also, practice makes perfect. Instead of trying to create the entire body, try to single out each part and study how they connect with one another. Understanding the anatomical structure of the body is very helpful
>>2518237
youre not respecting the horizon. Look at a cylinder from below and understand what i mean.
>>2518271
i really want to help you but its so bad in so many ways (and this is probably how most people feel when seeing your art, theres just no easy overarching thing to address). Just keep practicing whilst being aware we care.
>>2518267
>filename
my mAN what swrong with hampton
>>2518300
There's nothing to say other than body structure. Read an anatomy book. Read a book on proportions. You're obviously missing knowledge here. If you know this stuff you would realize the size of the leg in comparison with the torso, head with neck. You would know how the neck is supposed to connect with the shoulders. Other than that, it's up to you to figure out what you're not getting. There's nothing more I can say.
Does anyone knows what type of pencil this guy uses?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjR_8cwxUp4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQzp0H8Qblo
>>2518139
thanks anon, I'll check that out
the drawabox exercises aren't always fun, but I find it's good to have fun with them afterwards.
I'm excited for the day when I can draw decently, and tiny improvements here and there make me feel like I can get there eventually.
what keeps other anons motivated?
>>2518305
http://www.fabercastell.com/products/pencils/Castell9000GraphitePencil/119000
>>2518313
Thank you lad
Shading/construction/whatever advice?
>>2518262
my nigga, people have been giving you advice and you're still doing the exact same thing. get an anatomy or figure drawing book and study it.
>8 heads is ideal height. copy/paste that circle head you have there 8 times and stack them.
>2 heads down are the nipples.
>3 heads down is the navel.
>4 heads down is the crotch
>5 & 6 heads down are the knees
>7 heads down are the calves
>8 heads down are the feet
>>2518290
im studying hampton im just joking my man
>>2518331
>eight heads
I think you mean six you retard.
>>2518372
What? 7 1/2 is classic ideal and 8 is modern. 6 is cartoonish.
>>2518372
>i must have a definite rule for the arbitrary outlines
>>2518408
I use 6-7 for girls and 7-8 for guys
Has anyone ever heard/read about "drawing with the right side of the brain"?
I heard it helps improves your drawing by increasing your ability of seeing the overall picture of what you're drawing
Anyone knows anything about this?
>>2518431
trying too hard
>>2518432
??
What do you mean?
I'm just making a question
>>2518433
instead of dropping the bait (which was poorly constructed to begin with) you decided to reply to me
the joke is over by the way so
God damn it. Some days I feel like I have improved and then....
>>2518136
well i don't necessarily disagree, i did gesture drawing awhile ago but it looked even worse so i left it and did something else. I felt like I wasn't really learning anything and was mostly just copying the contours
>>2518221
can you explain why? i'm not the one you replied to, but i started with the KTD and after your reply i'm a bit confused.
i want to get into drawing but suck pretty bad.
where do i start to practice to make my self more confortable?
>>2518467
Read the fucking sticky
I'm not artistic or creative in the slightest but after learning how to draw portraits from 'drawing on the right side of the brain' it was a big boost to confidence
>>2518469
/ic/s being raided
don't respond to bait/people who don't lurk for five fucking minutes
>>2518469
link to the book?
Is drawing from reference using a grid any good or am I wasting my time?
Practicing feet. How do they look?
How do you figure out someones figure through clothing?? Should i just grind out figure studies?
>>2517301
nice
>>2517189
Looks to busy for my taste, when everywhere everything is going on, you don't know where to look.
First observation drawing (yeah, my neighborhood is pretty shit).
>>2518568
looks nice, not really realistic though. The only thing really fucked up is the metal container area.
>>2516991
>bought a tablet years ago thinking spending so much money would actually give me the motivation to draw
>only after I bought it did I realize how retarded that was
Long story short, I'm going to actually start learning how to draw and I was wondering that if working on a tablet from the very beginning is a horrible idea? I'd like to have a proper sketch book and all that eventually, but for the time being and for possibly up to a year, I won't be able to do traditional paper and pencil stuff because I'm basically autistic.
learning how to paint instead of just sketch, fucking mission and a half, my comfort zone is in another country.
I'm not gonna make it.
anyone care to make a design decision i dont want to make myself? also im not worried about perspective issues yet ill work those out later
for the structure, i realized im going to have steps going around it but then that gets rid of the need for the staircase which i want to keep. so should i just get rid of the staircase and go steps all around or keep the staircase and put the arch on top of a base so that they only way to get is by using the stairs like a proper patrician or by climbing the base like pleb
>>2518847
You can't "fix" the perspective later. You need to establish it in the beginning. Put on a simple 2point grid and draw over it.
>>2518847
Make those steps into a multi-tiered fountain faggot.
Is there a book to learn body proportions? I think I have a decent understanding of head proportions, just need to get better at feature drawing
>>2517388
Yeah, you're not really ready for figure drawing yet, as another anon said. Read keys to drawing and do tons of simple still lifes.
After that, it would probably be ideal to study anatomy at the same time while doing gestures. One can't be without the other, so you should put enough time into both.
>>2517851
Do more drawing than painting and read the comment above. Same applies to you.
>>2518114
That is really neat! The texture could be improved as it's quite repetitive and distracting right now, but it's a nice sketch, though not very accurate.
>>2518267
Extremely stiff and I don't see any Hampton construction whatsoever. Work more on it, read it well, copy his drawings, construct over photos, then construct after photos. Then from imagination.
>>2518574
That's cute on its own, but it's not true to the reference at all. Lay it over the photo and start again. Analyze it, don't just assume you know what's there, that is called symbol drawing.
>>2518858
Yes, you're horribly off. Sorry, but you just need to grind perspective first, it's often overlooked, but it's really not as hard as it looks.
sorry posted in wrong thread earlier
do you guys think there is any benefit to practicing with your off-hand...
i just randomly tried it and i was able to make some basic forms and write the alphabet...
do you think there is any chance of being able to draw with both hands simultaneously?
do you think practicing with the off hand helps brain function?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJj1Qqqebh8 [Embed]
>>2518863
ouch. yeah i see some things. the 'far' end needs to curve down more and 'closer' end needs to be higher? i wasnt going to polish this and fix the perspective i just wanted to settle on the design first
from this picture what do i need to work on?
![[Shinji-Nekomimi] Sora no Otoshimono - 12 [47007DFC].mkv_snapshot_06.35_[2014.09.20_04.58.45].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/w71mGQh.jpg "[Shinji-Nekomimi] Sora no Otoshimono - 12 [47007DFC].mkv_snapshot_06.35_[2014.09.20_04.58.45].jpg")
Dont usually give tips, but I extremely recommend everyone to learn some 3d modeling to get feel for and construction. Especially since theres freeware available on the comp.
>>2518946
Which programs do you recommend?
>>2518909
Everything.
To be more specific though, faces - noses in particular. Line confidence needs work. Everything's pretty flat, you'd benefit from doing a bit more construction and showing form more. Arms and hands should go without saying.
>>2518950
I use blender. I dont know if thats considered pleb or not
This image says "2. White was applied to the far edges of the form, which flattened it." How exactly does this flatten it and how are you supposed to show highlights on an edge?
More still life. More trouble with values. I have this problem a little in just black and white but it really shows through when I try to add color to some thing. I used colored pencils and mixed to colors for the base tone then used grey for the shadows.
I had a hard time thinking how dark I should make the shadows since it was a well lit light colored clothes pin. I orginaly wanted to use a darker brown for the shadows but it covered up the beige on my sample paper and stood out too much.
How do you guys do shadows and high lights with colored pencils?
>>2519151
Because it's at the edge of the form, why aren't you able to tell from looking at it? The cheekbone wouldn't have caught as much light of the edge of the edge of the form if it were round, because the highest point of the cheekbone would have caught the most light, I'm having difficulty explaining, go look at a lit sphere again.
>>2516973
just started Perspective Made Easy. i'm completely new to this, so did I get this right?
>>2519338
Only the top of those boxes line up with the perspective. The bottom should connect to the vanishing point as well.
>>2519342
thanks!
>>2516973
OP's pic is terrible for beginners, horrible non existent lighting situation going on making everything soft transitions...
>>2519325
right eye is fucked
>>2519338
All parallel lines should have the same vanishing point.
>>2519384
No they shouldn't. Some do not have vanishing points.
Started Keys to Drawing
>>2519394
And a drawing from reference. The hand looks completely fucked and I need better values?
>>2519325
the positioning of the features are off when compared to the reference, especially the eyes. also it's interesting that you're trying to study highlights midtones and shadows, but it looks as if you've merged a few together on the face, especially the left side. and noses should have some subtle shading too, as well as lips.
this is the first passable thing i think i've drawn, how'd i do?
>>2519408
please. clean those lines
>>2519396
The thing about ballpoint pens (and pens in general) is that the diference between values is given by the distance between the lines (if you're not using cross hatching) is given by the distance between the lines. The closer they get to each other the darker the value. This will demand a high level of control and can be frustrating as fuck.
Thats why i think a nice set of pencils (from HB to 3B seems to be enough for me, but some will insist you have them up to 6b) is a nicer tool for those wiling to explore contrast and value in their drawings.
So i'd say: Drop out the ballpoint pen for a while and start using led pencils (gosh i hate the fact that you guys still call it led pencils, when we everybody stopped using led on them centuries ago).
Unless the ballpoint is something you really don't want to give up, them soldier on.
>>2519338
like this? it looks much better, but i don't know if I'm still doing something wrong
>>2519408
you've got a long way to go, but it's a start. might want to do a value study or two before jumping straight into colour. also learning how to render hair.
>>2519419
No that's wrong. You are adding extra lines in there and bending them when it leaves the box. The lines should be straight. Also if you aren't aware you have switched from one point perspective to two point perspective, so there needs to be a left vanishing point too. Honestly just start over and reread the sections you already passed over because you are not getting it.
>>2519419
>>2519419
to emphasize what previous anon said
Super out of my comfort zone. Never drew heads at this angle bfeore
Can tracing actually help you learn anything? I just got my tablet and my brother was suggesting I trace to develop muscle memory for basic shapes
>>2519442
Fuck your brother in the ass.
>>2519437
Your drawing all of the features much to big.
I'm trying to learn noses, I've been drawing from reference. It always takes about 10-15 minutes, and its just off....
I really like using boxy forms to use for getting a better idea for perspective, but I just cant do it with noses.
I want to improve my speed and accuracy, but which should I prioritize first? How?
pls help
![IMG_0218[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/yRRIttg.jpg "IMG_0218[1].jpg")
Any advice?
>>2519499
chirp chirp
chirp chirpy chirp chirp
friend told me i have to get good this summer so here i am. feedback would be hugely appreciated.
>>2519499
please use a darker pencil for a start
I am getting more and more awful everyday.
>>2519512
an HB or even 2B should be working fine. maybe what you really need to work on is pressing harder, especially where the shadows are -- e.g. under the wing, opening of the beak. also i don't know much about bird proportions or anatomy, but you should probably work on some construction and basic shapes all the same.
is my perspective looking any better?
Hi guys.
I don't really have inspiration but I felt like using sai and my tablet.
>>2519520
If you don't have any inspiration then it's better to practice the fundamentals like straight lines, ellipses, simple shapes, perspective and gesture.
>>2519515
if you didn't sign every shit piece, your skill would go up tenfold
>>2519480
noted, thanks!
>>2519515
construction practice
>>2519524
You are correct. But I think I am depressed. I just wanted to pick up the pen again to remember how it felt.
Maybe being depressed isn't the end of the world? Am I supposed to pick myself up? Is loving your own work just a meme or is there truth in it?
>>2519550
You should love the process. It's a large part in whjat helps you get through. If you don't love drawing, how do you expect to make it?
>>2519552
I've drawn for a while, both digitally and traditionally. I've never once loved the process because during it, I am bombarded with too many questions.
I wish I knew what you mean by loving the process.
