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This thread is meant for artists who might want to try to make anime works in-between their studies. It is strongly recommended that you use this thread in conjunction with learning the elements and fundamentals of art. You can also discuss the visual elements of various professional artists as well if you keep it relatively articulate and civil.
Submit your drawings, receive feedback or critique others! Share your knowledge and remember to thank those who've critiqued or red-lined your drawings. Most importantly, don't act on your urges!
>Fresh off the boat? Get back on the boat and read THIS:
http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn
https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
>Proko
http://www.proko.com/videos/
>Ctrl+Paint
http://ctrlpaint.com/
>Hitokaku Index
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~zm5s-nkmr/
>0033
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=59317
>List of active livestreams
http://livestreamstatuslist.appspot.com/
>fellowBro's books
http://mediafire.com/?i44dwzkf9j9n8
>Tutorial/Reference Collection
http://pinterest.com/characterdesigh/
>Japanese Tutorials
http://iradukai.com/
>Figures
http://reference.sketchdaily.net/
>Pose Practice
http://www.eggazyoutatsu.net/eng/atarichan.html
Remember the words of our good friend Glen Vilppu: “No rules, just tools.”
/ic/: "Confident lolis are cute" - Anonymous: No.2510001, 5/03/2016
>>2510062
>lolilovers thread
what the fuck honestly
can we have a thread where the OP image isn't 'lolilovers'
>>2510062
>lolilovers
I laughed wholeheartedly.
>>2510078
do you do anything besides shitposting on ic?
>>2510068
Has this been a thing for awhile?
>>2510093
it's basically a meme at this point since the porn threads started cracking down on loli really hard which made some people really upset.
>>2510095
>it's basically a meme at this point since the porn threads started cracking down on loli really hard
No, more like someone planted some hotpockets there that made mods crawl out from the woodwork this was a non issue until recently.
>>2510106
Planted some hotpockets? Forgive my ignorance but I don't understand what you mean.
>>2510062
kek
loli > *
>>2510095
it really shouldn't be an issue. gotta fucking study that shit, not condemn it.
>>2510124
But think of the imaginary children!
>>2510145
Yeah.
But seriously, global rules've gotta be updated. /i/ and /ic/ don't need to follow that shit.
>>2510146
Honestly the current mods on all boards are ridiculously bad.
I don't know what they were thinking when they gave these guys power. None of then have any idea how 4chan or their respective boards work and base their bans on personal opinions.
>>2510150
It's a pretty common theme around all boards, huh.
Well, let's just keep turning in feedback in the hopes that something changes eventually.
For now let's just treat this as a normal alt style thread. Here's something I did a bit ago in a rush.
>>2510155
I legitimately laughed at that picture
>>2510167
>dat drawing
The haet. It all makes sense now
>>2510167
>>2510169
one more to get the thread going. c'mon post 'em
>>2510087
wud fug the weeb in this just sayin
>>2510182
me2
>>2510179
Now just add isis headband to pizza and it'd be perfect.
>>2510205
There's nothing wrong with lolis and if you think so you should fuck back off to Reddit or Facebook.
Is this the right place to ask how to draw cute anime grils? Loomis senpai's Fun with Pencil thought me a lot but I can't color for shit.
[spoiler]Or should I go to beginner thread?[/spoiler]
>>2510347
you should go to beginners thread until you learn how to draw 3d form properly. learning anatomy, REAL anatomy will also help make your artwork better, so you know how to form the head and the body. also work on your lineart
also >that lightbulb
is that supposed to be your light source? first of all, your shading is really sparse and i honestly didn't tell you had any at first. its almost like, why did you bother. second, you should implement some more contrasting values in your work, so that the lights are light and that the darks are very dark. you gotta exaggerate the values to make the shading stand out more
>>2510362
Thanks for giving me direction. Somehow I understand what you are trying to say I am just confused on how to execute it. I will visit the resource threads to find a book to execute your advice. Cheers.
>>2510095
>the porn threads started cracking down on loli really hard
you mean literally 5 people thought that crying "DON'T POST LOLI" was cracking down
new sketch ~~~
plump bee girl is covered in honey, wat do?
>>2510434
Mods are banning it from what I've heard.
>>2510435
Nice
>>2510374
you should also check out art tutorials on youtube by sycra, proko etc.
there are some really good tips and tricks that you can learn from them
>>2510435
i'm not good enough to tell what is it
but i feel something wrong on her right knee
Cute grill tho
>>2510155
Braids Grenades! I was following that quest, was pretty good while it was going, shame the thread went down though.
>>2510577
>Sycra
>>2510710
Oh you were there for that. Sorry for being so slow on it. I'll make a new thread and continue where we left off after I'm done drawing Snoop Dogg frames for a friend's video.
>>2510111
MODS DO IT FOR FREE!!!
>>2510854
The mods are a bunch a pedo. Who do think started the mango generals? It's been the same mexican perverts since the beginning. Ricky, Javier and that dumb shit from brazil.
Could someone red-line the 3rd from the left picture? I am trying to learn anatomy and proportions and would appreciate if someone could give me an example.
>>2510884
You are an idiot.
>>2510887
Quality post.
>>2510884
if you did gestures for one day you would understand everything about this
>>2510895
He won't learn shit because he thinks he can learn from his anime waifu don't bother.
>>2510899
taht actually makes a lot more sense
>>2510906
By all means redline it and show us how its done, put emphasis on overlapping forms and remember this is a redline you're trying to improve what's done on an animated budget which means you must show the intended gesture on that frame get to it fuccboi :^)
>>2510922
And you are a fucking idiot for asking why wont you study this shit from life what you want someone to spoonfeed you a reference you want someone to post some DA tier tutorial on how to draw animu in profile is that it?
>>2510925
Bro. Just don't post if you aren't even going to be helpful. All I wanted was a single example. I am not asking to be spoon fed. This has to be the #1 section where people get ass blasted over the dumbest things. If you are going to do it, great, I really appreciate. If not then just don't even reply to me.
>>2510884
Hey anon
I wouldn't recommend learning from anime. Most of it is produced under a tight budget and inhumane schedule
I recommend reading H Manga because the artists usually pay a lot of attention to detail.
i have decided to restart my anatomy training from scratch
Can somebody help me?
>>2511053
How about you use references nigger.
btw i think i found a goldmine for refs and tips
(pic found there)
http://www.moee.org/s_uploader/index128.html
>>2511053
loomis can
>>2511063
>>2511106
fuck my life
>>2511119
Stop referencing from anime study from life.
>>2511122
is it necessary?
life sucks
>>2511053
because
also again, please try to stop namefagging.
>>2511105
But what if I can't read moon?
>>2511134
Pls dont do this again
>>2511137
why
>>2511136
You should at least know your kana. Kanji you can write in an IME and then put the whole sentences in a translator.
Anyway that archive has been around since forever.
>>2511134
thank you very much!
I know about the legs:
The problem is... my entire family is large legged
Like REALLY LARGE LEGGED and we are not really overweight,
I like slim legs, but probably that thing is hardwired in my brain... and you are very right on that
I hope i'll overcome it soon
Thanks for the proportions!
About namefagging i'm only a beginner, not worth of getting mixed with other anons
>>2511142
slimming down large legs =/= stubbing them down
>inb4 fat legs
>About namefagging i'm only a beginner, not worth of getting mixed with other anons
here's a suggestion, stop namefagging let the shit you make speak for themselves.
>>2511138
its one of those things were no matter how many valid points you have, your skill is lacking so you get attacked.
>>2511139
i like how you think that learning to weeb is equivalent to learning to jap.
>>2511153
I don't want you talking to me, filth.
>>2511151
>projecting
I'm working on space cuties
>>2511168
reddit?
>>2511134
The legs aren't too stub, just more stub than animu usually makes them (which is stylistically as long as the thighs). Also depends on how tall your person is. Shorter people will have stubbier legs.
>>2511170
No this majestic creature.
>>2511172
well i did say that didnt i
granted i could've worded it better than "muh body diversity" w
>>2511134
>gorilla skull
>anime proportions
can you go away
>>2511168
I like how you did the hair.
>>2511168
>that body
>those arms
>tumblr nose.
didn't go very well, everything fell apart as I rendered it but I didn't fix them because I was a bit too deep in; would still appreciate a redline though. More than one character in a scene is pretty hard, I need to touch on that area more...
>>2510735
>imblying sycra is bad
does someone have to be the next michelangelo in order for /ic/ to find them worthy to teach art?
>>2511127
Get the book drawing on the right side of the brain. I'm a newbie and I'm using it as a staging point, maybe it'll help you too.
>>2511239
Yes, even when 97.5% of the posters here could gain something from your lessons.
>>2511250
>your lessons
what is this memery
>>2510768
I love this snoop face
I have a lot of questions about stylization. My favorite artist in terms of style right now is Murata. Some characters follow human anatomy closer than others, and I was always wondering how far do I need to study drawing realistic people? Do I need to take it to portrait level accuracy? If not, where do I start? I really wish there was a clear set out path for me to take but art isnt like that.
For the simpler characters, I find myself wondering "how can I apply realistic anatomy if I want to draw a face like that?" The bodies in general aren't too too wild but the range of faces is crazy. How would I even approach it? I feel really overwhelmed thinking about drawing in style from imagination, knowing what rules to follow, which to break and how, yet staying consistent.
>>2511280
You should know it fairly well. But depending on what you want specific amounts may vary.
What you should do is both. Don't solely focus on anatomy and realism and ignore what you want to do.
Study anatomy, but also draw animu shit. As you progress your knowledge of both should interweave
>>2511280
Perhaps not "portrait-level accuracy" in terms of rendering, but probably in terms of anatomical understanding.
You will know you need to study more anatomy when you look at your animu work and you're unsure why it doesn't look "right" enough. For example, when playing guitar, you may realize you're having a lot of trouble solo-ing or improvising (maybe the licks you do are boring). Probably because you're not familiar/understanding enough of scales enough to dance around it, so you need to study scales. Until you get to a point where you go "oh yeah, I'm okay with what I got", you know you have to further your understanding.
Faces: practice caricatures/cartoons. Caricatures resemble what they are supposed to, but look wild. Ranges of faces come from practice of knowing how far you can push it and that comes from know /what/ you can push (anatomy) and /how/ dynamic you can make it (cartoon). Study more anime, animation, and gestures.
Reinterpreting the up screenplay from the script.
>>2511343
I don't want to be that guy, but, blog?
Can you tell me what you think of this?
>>2511380
It's shit.
>>2511380
I dont like it, also its a man in a dress? If so thats kind of interesting
>>2511343
season?
Everything in this thread except for
>>2511234
>>2511215
>>2511343
is fucking complete garbage and you need to just go grind loomis and drawing from life for like another year then come back.
>>2511234
You have gotten a lot better over the years but I honestly hate your stuff still. Not the technique though, you have really improved.
>>2511427
I'll post my work if you post yours :^)
>>2511382
My poor attempt at drawing a muscle girl with no chest
How about I post something I'm more proud of
>>2511380
Musclegirl or no, shoulders should not be wider than hips if you want people to read it as a woman. Certainly not with no boobs to speak of.
>>2511234
Did you have a stroke? :(
>>2511427
Nah. My thumbs look pretty dope.
>>2511448
>proud of that
You should learn anatomy! Face structuretoo. And maybe stop browsing tumblr so much.
>>2511448
posting your work when you clearly have no understanding of anatomy will only make people laugh
>>2511448
You shouldn't be proud of trash, son
>>2511448
>>2510967
And stay there.
>>2511458
if increased workload counts as a form of stroke then yes probably
>>2511488
You need no redline, what you need is serious study and understanding of the human body, like any other loser who wants to be an artist has to do it.
If ya don't understand what you're drawing, then it's a waste of time.
And how difficult can be to search on google 3/4 standing pose and find the one you need, huh??
Here I did it for you, you lazy ass.
>>2511493
S H O R T S T A C K
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>>2511456
Maybe I should use less pose references from vidya and cartoons if it looks that far gone
>>2511234
here is an amateur's take, did a quick paint over too
the biggest problem is that from the viewers angle, the big boob gal shouldn't foreshorten like that, which make her ass look way too big
not too sure with the girl with building, just my taste so I didn't bother repainting it.
>>2511215
At least it's not one of those potato noses.
>>2511501
no, you should draw with real references. take the long way round, man.
>>2511234
dude when you do giantess stuff, avoiding drawing feet is not a very smart thing to do
>>2511535
i'm calling 10+ (You)'s
you fucking heard it here first
>>2511550
lmao i know that tumblr style got me good. i just think it's really fucking cute.
>>2511552
Nah, it's basic at best.
Nothing cute about it, really.
>>2511535
look at that tomato nose kek
>>2511577
>stylization thread
Tupac as a moeblob. Any advice before I move on to Biggie Smalls?
>>2511640
Yeah I got some advice, do DMX instead
>>2511371
Korean Up?
How do I draw like araki-san
>>2511660
Study realism and his art.
>>2511656
No the american up.
>>2511660
Rip off Hokuto no Ken
>>2511645
I'm doing Biggie anyway but the idea was too good to resist
>>2511168
Torso is tiny and the head enormous!
is there any good information of children anatomy? i want draw realistic children
>>2511765
Anatomy books?
>>2511797
anatomy books children psychology reference whatever shit i'm gonna study that slowly
>>2511683
Hey man, could've been Chinese Up
>>2511234
I hope it helps you somehow.
>>2511234
I'd say the biggest problem is just that gestures are really weak. there are some proportional errors but those aren't as big imo.
>>2511765
go to /hebe/. plenty of seminude content
>>2511866
I regret ever treading there.
am i slow?
It took around 45-60 minutes for each
When i see artists doing these in like 5 minutes... and better
How can i be faster?
>>2511866
can't figure it out what is that shit with googling
>>2511880
>how can I be faster
practice
>>2511892
but i practice 1-3 hours at day since 5 months :<
>>2511926
3 hours a day isn't enough if you want speed.
>>2511927
so... is it ok for a normal pleb to be this slow?
>>2511866
Going to /hebe/ was how I knew for sure I just really liked cartoons and wasn't actually a pedophile.
Fuck that place.
>>2511926
beginners are always slow
one day you will notice that you are much more confident with your lines and brushstrokes and that you are able to draw much faster
it takes time to get to that mark but if you keep practicing, one day you will get there. it took me like a year so dont feel bad
also devote all of the time to the practice that helps too
>>2511933
It's how I found out about prime pussy and a no wonder why some states have adopted the age of consent at age 16. I still feel indifferent, mostly bad for ever setting foot there but something primal inside of me urges to keep going back.
>>2511880
Draw those poses again and again until your desired speed.
>>2511944
I focus more on flat-chests rather than hoo-hahs.
Anyway, be careful anon.
>>2511954
So is that legal?
>>2511880
lol you got bullied out of namefagging,
Weak.
>>2511823
blog?
>>2511823
nice figure corrections but you completely changed the perspective
>>2512010
Do you think youre some kind of internet tough guy? Do you think youre a regular? You just hang out here and shitpost and give unwanted advice.
Keep playing 4chan shitter, some people here are getting gud :)
>>2511880
do 2 hours of timed figure drawing a day, you will get quick real quick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwsZ5GWsoC4
>>2511880
Do more rough sketches. You can probably shave more time off on your initial sketching than on the cleanup, so that's what you gotta practice. Cleanup is sort of an unavoidable effort, but you can skip it while trying to build up speed/habit and only do it when you want to polish a piece.
Also give yourself time limits while sketching. See how much you can accomplish in 5 minutes, 10 minutes. Gradually try to fit more and more in your 5/10 minute timeframes as you become more familiar with them. (Yes, it's gonna look like shit at first if you're not used to drawing that way, it gets better.)
>>2511765
Search for swimwear/clothes catalogs for children.
>Same model, different angles
>HQ pictures
>"Son, why your computer is full of little girls?"
>"Little girls? hahaha, no. They're swimsuits!!"
Only problem is they chop the legs off, but anyways, it's anything you need for ref pictures.
Give it a try. google "girls swimwear".
>>2512050
not him but how can I gauge myself with this? If i'm drawing two hours a day of figures, I cant just flood threads with "crit these 200 figures pls :^)"
I fear making mistakes, not realizing them, then building on those mistakes.
>>2511333
When focusing on anatomy, of course there is knowledge, but what do I do to test it? How do I apply and evaluate it? Should I draw from life, draw peoples heads? How accurate should I be in these exercises if they are appropriate? I was thinking of doing that, then trying to draw a stylized head in the same position
>>2511367
Practicing caricatures sounds interesting, nobody has mentioned that to me before. I have no idea how to approach them but I'll try and look into it.
Thanks guys
>>2512300
>How do I apply and evaluate it?
anime bodies tend to be very similar to real life bodies. its just that anime characters, girls especially, tend to have longer legs and smaller torso, narrower shoulders and wider hips, but everything else is still proportional. as for head, the skull shape is very similar to real life, but the face is moefied by moving the features down a bit to give the illusion of a large cranium, in addition to anime eyes. this is for girl characters of course. male character faces tend to be more realistic in terms of proportions.
>>2512010
nah actually had some cleanup on cache and stuff and forgot to put it back on
>>2512341
my nigga
>>2512338
or the other way is to actually enlarge the cranium itself. you can see the eyes are at about 40% of the face even though this is a fairly realistic looking style
>>2512300
For caricature, sketch the person without looking at your paper. If there's something you feel, like "this person has a big nose", go as crazy as you possibly can with it. You can check the paper if you really get lost, but keep it to a minimum. Once you're done you can clean it up.
Another exercise is to choose different shapes and fit the person into each of them. Some will look more like the person than others, but it's more for learning.
>>2512300
>How accurate
100% accurate should be your goal.
Don't start thinking
>I need to be X amount of good for Y
you should strive for perfection, if you find your anatomy isn't good then work on it more. that's all there is to it.
To get to murata's level you'd need almost perfect knowledge of anatomy and how to apply it to your animu art.
Thinking
>I only need to be this good then I can stop
or
>I need to be this good before I start on another thing
is always going to end in failure. These things aren't stepping stones you use then leave behind, they all progress along with you.
SHE IS 18 TOTALLY OK TO POST HERE IT'S NOT LOLICON
Said this...
The head is a little too big probably but i was bored of drawing mannequins...
>>2512659
I like your enthusiasm and dedication to drawing and posting lolis.
>>2512663
IT'S TOTALLY NOT LOLI!
(well drawing lolis it's the only and only reason i started drawing)
>>2512659
She looks too skinny to have that fold on her belly tho
Try harder next time, Lolicon-Kun, I know you can do it.
>>2512670
i agree, any suggestions on how to make her look a little bent?
>>2512659
just study more bent figures, you'll get it eventually.
>>2512678
Thank you very much! I really appreciate that!
>>2512680
references I gave you isn't helping much though. neither is this
just use big tittied girl as a reference and remove big titties while adjust proportions to your loli liking. it's what I do.
>>2512684
fuggin cute
>>2512673
The shape of the chest and shoulder alignment isn't the way it would be if she was bent. Right now she just has a shoulder back and her chest is tilting away from the viewer. You should probably just accept it and draw another loli though..
Even if she did bend I don't think the shadow in that belly crease would be this strong, it's not a very pronounced crease unless you're fat. (It's only pronounced on a small area around the bellybutton)
Can some one explain what layer mask does exactly?
>>2512483
This is cute. Kinda makes me want to try drawing Phoenix Wright characters in danganronpa style
Unfortunately I don't have the skills for that yet
>>2512702
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=layer+mask+explanation
>>2512698
i like the style on that guys face
>>2511535
the ear placement is wrong even if its stylized
euhh
fixed a little
>>2512939
You did it, loli guy!
pkmn
>>2512338
I've always wondered, if you draw in anime style, would it be better to have skeletons that reflect that, or have anatomically correct ones?
>>2513118
I guess I wasn't clear but I meant literally spooky skeletons not inside a body.
>>2513056
I'd fuck it.
Wooo done.
I usually don't draw this style with the weird proportions etc. But it's for a school assignment where I had to study my biggest inspiration. Loish in my case.
Ofcourse it's not even close to Loish' level, but I'm trying.
Here is the layout for one of my fan arts I'm working on. I don't know if i made Naegi too tall for how the perspective is drawn, Can someone tell me if it's correct?
>>2513297
haha, nice to see you branch out a bit.
the perspectives make no sense though
>>2513271
How tall is this person? Why are the handrails knee level? Why is the main persons head way smaller than the person theyre standing in front of?
I don't like the pose of the arm on the left, any tips on how to fix it? Also, fuck hands.
Does anybody on here use paint tool sai? I am trying to make a shortcut for the rotating canvas tool where I don't have to actually click it. The only thing I can see in shortcuts to rotate the canvas is Rotate 90 degrees and I don't want that.
>>2513605
Yeah, use the items in the highlighted box to rotate. The drop down menu shows you a couple angles and the rotate left and rotate right buttons next to it rotate at the same angles. The square button resets the position of the canvas.
As far as I know, there's no super clean rotation capability in sai, but there's enough angles in these tools here to be helpful.
>>2513598
finish your studies
dont use that fucking disgusting marker brush
>>2513614
I mean I know I can rotate but I want to keybind +11 -11 degrees. It has the rotate 90 degrees but nothing smaller. Is there no way to do that in Sai?
>>2513615
Why can't he use it, it's seems like a preference thing
>>2512465
Almost perfect knowledge huh. How long do you think I'd have to self study to get to his level?
>>2513271
Looks like you're trying to eyeball a wide-angle lens. Don't do that.
>>2513621
>preference thing
might aswell use crayons(brush) to hide skill level
>>2513605
>>2513619
I'm running some dodgy cracked version of SAI i've had for almost 2 years now and using these keybinds actually allows me to rotate in increments of 11 degrees just like you want, even though it says rotate by 90.
>>2512726
this
>>2513670
Thanks.
>>2513271
perspective does not work like this. At all. You can't go past both your perspective points.
Pic related. It's either one or the other. Pay attention in class next time.
Is something wrong with her feet? It somehow feels off.
>>2513693
I think it's the shading on the left foot, maybe remove that triangular shadow, it makes it look like the foot is twisting.
>>2512659
Thumbnail looks like she has giant testicles
>When you want to post your new drawing because it will get like 8 replies for sure but the thread already has 200 replies
NEW THREAD WHEN
>>2513734
post it now and post it again when new thread comes. get more replies!
>>2513735
this, just delete some part, post it here and then post the "completed" version on the next thread. ez (you)s.
>>2513710
Hmm, I see what you mean. I'll change the form on that fold. I was refeerring to her right foot through. I think I'll bend her toes a bit, that might help.
Thanks.
>>2513690
he's using one point perspective shit dick
>>2513884
ebin
>>2513660
Pretty much. That guys stuff looks like /a/ drawthread garbage of the utmost generic variety.
I just realized her left shoulder is fUcked. Try not to mind the shit gradients, but give it to me straight doc...
>>2514114
I feel like her hair's too poofy and far away from her skull
also her torso might be a bit small. Right arm is way too long. Imagine if she put that in the same position as her left arm. it'd be way longer.
>>2514140
Yeah i see what you mean, guess I became numb to it.
>>2514114
the body proportions in relation to the head is off
make the body 2 or 3 head sizes if you want loli body type (for anime mostly)
posting this here 2
>>2513660
Oh okay, that's what you meant. I got the same comment a while ago but I didn't get much of a reason as to why.
I'll put off the marker brush for sketches for now
>>2514264
Don't listen to him. That's what makes your stuff stand out.
>>2514281
Wouldn't kill to try it out a bit
Lil chib of my character I suppose. In a maid dress. I'm aware of the mistakes I suppose? But it's hard to correct with ballpen. I still like it though.
>>2514281
>stand out
more like a markerfag and there is plenty of them around
best studies are made with the real pencil brush
i personally sketch with corel draw painter
New thread when?
>>2513884
cute
>>2514294
I prefer doing my studies on paper with a real pencil, but okay
>>2514294
So now you're bashing his preference in favor of yours? I use painter too as my main program but nothing beats real pencil.
>>2513884
I like how you accurately describe anatomical shapes with ONE line, how do? Like the pelvis/torso of the girl on the left, or the left hand of the girl down right, how do you do it? Stabilizer? Help me anon!
>>2512347
Based Iwanaga Sakurako
morrigan wip
>>2514294
You can't be fucking serious. Who gives a shit what digital brush someone uses for sketching? Literally the only thing that matters is that the brush feels right for the artist using it.
>>2514349
looks fat in the thumbnail, draw a separation between upper and lower leg, just a line
americans drawing anime
>>2514388
"Fuck up the anatomy to make her skinny I can't jerk off to this"
>>2513884
m-muh DICK!
>>2514376
>markerfag detected
sorry you fall into the newest meme
>>2514415
desu the anatomy is fucked
