Was Van Gogh bad at constructing and perspective or did he knowingly break the rules?
both?
knowingly. Look at the angle of those paintings on the wall. He could have easily made them straight up and down, lining up with the corner of that wall, but he decided not to.
I think van gogh paintings look like shit but it's pretty obvious his style is intentional.
>>2499911
No, paintings used to commonly be mounted to the wall at an angle.
>>2499924
>>2499891
knowingly. just learn more about modernism/post-impressionism ffs
>>2499891
He just knew people in the art world. having friends will get your farther than any kind of hard work.
>>2500241
Nigga, do you even read?
>>2499891
Also look at his early drawings and you can tell he very much knew about perspective-- he studied the Charles Bargue course after all.
>>2500271
>>2499891
An interesting reconstruction.
"The Bedroom paintings are wonderfully askew; walls lean gently against one another like drunken crushes, hung frames dangle and point to distant, personal horizons, windows come together like church steeples, the furniture—legs jut in coquettish angles, table tops placed like mortarboards on an awkward grad—seem adrift on the floor, hovering in a manner both euphoric and disconcerting. A facsimile would be relatively easy to make, lines measured and angles taken, then taken to scale; because such a room would be unlivable, Ravenswood had to rely more on art than math."
>>2500271
The Bargue course doesn't teach perspective at all. It teaches basic 2d observation of shape and value and how to simplify.
>>2499891
We know that Van Gogh made use of perspective grids.
>see: Compose-It Grids
I suspect he's using a smaller grid here and was obliged to cramp the details in.
Van Gogh was the predecessor to tumble faggots. He couldn't draw properly so he hid behind "muh style" and committed sudoku when he realized he would never git gud
>>2500271
>he very much knew about composition-- he studied Fun With a Pencil, after all
>>2500622
See, but that looks good, and perspective is used with skill and creates atmosphere, OP pic is just shit with no depth or sense.
>>2504063
imagine if that was posted in the beginner thread
>>2504252
van gogh was legitimately horrible with value and form, especially in his 'earlier' years
>>2504252
I can only imagine. I was ripping it apart in my head. Just because it's by a famous artist doesn't make it any less cringey.
>>2504283
If you look up at them while they're flat up against the wall it skews their look because of the perspective you see them. This was to avoid that; especially since people cared about the value and look of a piece to be admired rather than a $60 amateur piece you buy at fucking homesense or some shit.
>>2504289
That's actually really interesting.
And at the same time it makes me realize I haven't really looked at a physical painting in years.
>>2504247
lel
Many of you seem to be forgetting that Van Gogh was poor and miserable, spent most of his life struggling with his art, and only gaining some recognition towards the end of his life.
His big claim to fame came posthumously.
He only sold a handful of paintings in his lifetime and a lot were traded for food or art supplies.
You can be madjelly all you want that his works have become so valuable now, but if Van Gogh had been alive today he'd fit right in with the rest of us miserable d/ic/ks,
getting sent to the beginner thread and competing with Chunbum over who is the most misunderstood genius.
>>2505912
>competing with Chunbum over who is the most misunderstood genius.
oh so brian then?
>>2505919
Except Van Gogh actually was doing something new. Whereas Brian is kinda derivative.
Why are we talking about Van Gogh he's the ultimate failure. God I'll do anything to not end up like him, firstly art is a commodity and money always comes before the artwork. Second, I'd never die for this shit, ever. Third don't act like a social retard and be smart.
>>2504251
Thats not a painting dumbass its a real room
>>2506467
I feel like you had a good point but that was so incoherent and self-contradictory that I don't know what it is.
Also I think Van Gogh was a genius, there's more to art than money or being an Andrew Loomis ripoff.
>>2506467
>Why are we talking about Van Gogh he's the ultimate failure
He wasn't
>money always comes before the artwork
Does it?
>I'd never die for this shit, ever
Neither did he. He died due to mental illness/gunshot that may have been fired by someone else.
>>2506467
Once van gogh started painting he never stopped, so don't worry, because you will never be like him
also, you won't understand why he had no money and still painted every day
Speaking of perspective, who are some artists that has truly mastered perspective?
I love Kim Jung Gi for example.
Here is a tiny collection of his sketches;
http://imgur.com/a/OMrqy
>>2506918
Rackstraw Downes
All his paintings and drawing are done on site too
>>2506918
Moebius
>>2506896
How do you die from being mentally ill AND some guy shooting you
>>2506984
It's widely considered he shot himself. But that may have been a coverup for him being shot by someone else. If it was suicide it was linked to him mental illness.