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>fellowBro's books :
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>>2495980
Trying to design a character. I'm not a furry, but a friend had an idea based off of a fuck-around sketch of an evil cat, and now I can't stop thinking about it.
>>2495980
-_- i didnt make this thread. i hope someone picked my image ironically. stop trying to rile up draw threads
>>2495985
I actually like it, it's decent. The form seems a little off (even to me) but it gets it's point across.
Though to whoever put the text over it, shoulda put in the lower left corner instead, so that it doesn't cover the art.
>>2495985
desu I just picked what looked decent. Didn't mean to stir shit up
>>2496011
This word censoring is driving me insane.
>>2495983
is that beerus' new form
>>2496018
what word did that censor
>>2496021
Damn, thanks.
Now I have all the reference I'll ever want for this character.
I don't even watch dragon ball, and that made me kek.
>>2496024
I think decent, because we're all scared to call something good for fear of getting lambasted.
>>2496029
it was t. b. h. desu
Decided to scrap the old one and start from scratch with more reference. Issues?
>>2496033
She still has no torso and her back leg is still broken. The head and arms look better though.
>>2496033
I'm not great with anatomy myself, but there are a couple of things that I can fix, due to my obsession (on could call it a /fix/ation) with legs, the bad one really stands out.
I'm not great at complicated or unusual poses like Chun's here, so I'm only basing her right leg on her left. It looks like you suck at lower legs. Her left one is cropped out, most likely deliberately, and the right one was utterly ruined. I'd look at sinix's video on legs, he does them much better than your's truly, but I can show you the correct leg, methinks. Sorry if it's hard to read, I don't have great line fidelity/confidence on a tablet.
>>2496027
I mean it's pretty convincing to belong in db
>>2496041
>>2496033
The gif
>>2496041
>>2496052
This isn't a fix. You made the perspective on the leg even more off. It needs to be lower and the redline leg has less accurate anatomy than the previous leg. You both keep making the leg look like it's bending forward when it should point either to the side or slightly back to match the other leg.
Self portrait to vent my toonish style I never use because I need to draw all realistic 'n edgy for muh serious stories
All abandon the Brian thread and make a new one.
>>2496067
seconded.
>>2496061
if you could redline that would be great
>>2496071
Okay. I just started eating so it'll be a little while.
>>2496041
>I'm not great with anatomy myself
then why the fuck are you redlining, retard
Crit please...?
Also at what point does one stop being a beginner and start being intermediate? Or stop being intermediate and start being a master?
Thanks in advance.
>>2496110
Fine for what it is.
Anatomy is fucked up and so is the perspective but there is no real horizon line and the figures aren't human so w/e looks good move on to next piece.
>>2496110
This looks amazing. I really like the subject matter, the level of detail is good, good contrast. I agree that the perspective was a bit confusing at first, which is caused primarily by the skirt draping behind the bed of flowers with no folds hinting interaction between the two. Hope that makes sense. Good shit, what else you got?
>>2496145
and here we have our obligatory comment on anatomy
>>2496145
Ok, thanks anon.
>>2496166
Ohh I see it now, thanks a lot anon. I kinda flew by the seat of my pants with these.
I'm not the best at perspective stuff, but I'm trying to get into making whole illustrations. How's this one..? I can already tell the perspective is broken a lot and the anatomy is probably wonky.
>>2496180
I'm working on a redline/redraw right now. I really can't think of how to explain the issue with the torso in words but I'm hoping that showing you some of how I'd construct it will help.
>>2496180
>>2496192
Actually I think this is done enough now. First I tried to redline it but there was too much to change. I couldn't fit her upper half into what was there making it longer, but I think the legs and hips might fit the original. Next I redrew it entirely and tried to leave some of the construction of the torso and hips particularly. If you check for the segments of the torso like the ribcage, the small waist area between the ribcage and hips/pelvis, and the whole pelvis/butt segment and they've all got space that may help you make sure the torso doesn't get bunched up the way it looks now. It's bent and foreshortened so you have to make certain indicators to suggest that all of that length is still there but folding. For the legs you can make a perspective grid to line them up but whatever you do, draw the lines all the way through the figure then erase or draw over for the contours, don't try to guess at where it should connect. Anyway, I hope that helps some.
>>2496198
Might help to attach the picture.
had fun with watercolour pencils. apologies for the retarded composition etc., this was done on half a page because i didn't want to waste paper and it was just a study.
>>2496052
i like it, maybe find a good reference image for the posture? google gymnast splits or something.
>>2496110
really cool btw
>>2496410
I just don't think people care that much, anon
>>2496420
I want to believe.
Never been on this board, but I draw for work all day so I thought I would post my current project. Ignore the pink lines, they are scars that I have to re-add after I finish detailing.
>>2496439
who would pay you for this?
how much are you getting payed?
Still wipping thru this.
Why is it so hard to color?
>>2496449
Hey anon looking real good! loving the motion that's going on. Keep up the good work! Just keep the values in check, the shine on that shirt isn't too convincing as at yet.
>>2496442
I'm an in-house graphic designer and digital artist, I work in the comic book industry. This portrait is part of a bigger project, an "action figure" variant comic book cover. Here is one i've completed already.
By saying "who would pay you for this?" are you trying to say you don't think it's up to par? I'm pretty confident that it will look fantastic once I finish shading and blend. :)
>>2496415
Can someone pls crit my little church?
>>2496464
it's not too bad specially for /gd/ but it isn't finished right? will it go on a poster or something like that?
>>2496466
Not finished, no. Just what i'm currently sketching on while I sip coffee and shitpost on 4chan at work today.
It will go on a comic book cover, designed to be a fake action figure box. Here's another that I never got to finish because the publisher changed characters on me, so it sits in limbo at the moment.
>>2496464
an artist who claims anything looks fantastic? This is bait.
>>2496473
I said I was "pretty" confident ;)
Of course there will always be something to change, but deadlines tend to keep you from thinking that way. Just gotta get it as good as I can in the time I have.
>>2496479
honestly your stuff just looks like unfounded pillowshading or super-reference with bad rendering.
I'm glad you got a job at all. How much are you getting paid? minimum wage? less?
>>2496483
Namefags are just the worst
>>2496483
I make $17 an hour. You do realize that if my work paid me less than minimum wage they would be breaking the law, right?
You act like it was difficult for me to get a job as an artist. Let's see some of your work, and what do you do for a living? How much money do you make?
I'm not familiar with the term pillowshading, but usually for my digital stuff I paint with 100% opacity and blend. The first image I posted is unblended, since it is unfinished.
Here's a sketch I did a couple days ago just for you, unreasonably long trip. Do you care if I call you that?
>>2496501
Sounds a lot like bullshit, to be honest
>>2496439
Something in him reminds me of Shepard from Mass Effect
>>2496504
okay.
>>2496501
how did you get hired? Why do you have a shitty 100$ tablet if you're pro, is it not covered?
Nice office.
heres a couple of life drawings i did last night...
>>2496509
oh and less than minimum wage is legal if you're not an employee but just do general commission work.
... comment/crit welcome :)
>>2496509
Okay, fair enough. Quite impressed really, with all the stuff I heard about people associated with art unable to make enough living
I did a doodle
>>2496509
Oh, hey, just noticed, Intuous Manga, isn't it?
>>2496511
Tablet sucksssss. Work is about to get a new one. I started here as just a graphic designer, so it fit my needs but i've outgrown it now that i'm working on more serious art. I spent my high school years building up a graphic design portfolio. I started working here on small projects and there was another graphic designer for the big stuff. Well, he got fired and now i'm at where i'm at. Comic covers are only part of the job, I also design whatever is needed for our sites. It's a good gig.
>>2496517
I make enough to live comfortably, but most aren't so lucky. It can be tough trying to snag an in-house job.
>>2496512
I really like how you used your fingers in this one. Really nice style, good job.
>>2496454
Thanks buddy, that's comforting. I'm going slow and steady on this, don't wanna mess up too badly and end up discarding it
>>2496519
Intuos pen and touch.
>>2496526
thanks anon. much appreciated :)
>>2496449
Small update
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>>2496678
That's it young man, no more screentones for you until you learn to use them responsibly.
>>2496678
>>2496588
Veary cool. Reminds me of a painting I saw in the Rolling Stones magazine.
I'm still working on this.
Shieet rendering is hard
>>2496840
I think drawing is harder than rendering, but still just apply layers of graphite softly until you get the tone and gradient you want, and push your values of course
![walking_by_mikejordana-d9zx0ti[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/fO25POR.png "walking_by_mikejordana-d9zx0ti[1].png")
>>2496678
Makes me uncomfortable but I like it
>>2496472
I'm an in house gd too anon- the company I work for is not as cool however. How did you get your job ?How much do they pay you?
>>2496501
I'm actually bothering to comment cause im getting sick of this ego-whore rhetoric I see all the time.
there are some realizations that you really need to make if you want a dream art job, you're not a competent artist or an industry professional at all. Not sure how you got work (regardless of whether you're telling the truth or lying). There's nothing overly appealing about your work nor technically impressive.
Its all samey and bland. The fundamentals of form, lighting, color, rendering, and so on need a lot of work. I suggest you stop ego whoring and get to work on those things. I know of a hundred artists that are unemployed right now that could send you into a mid life crisis.
Throw your ego out the window and get better.
Just fuck my shit up.
>>2497053
Also, does anyone have a good tutorial on how to draw metal?
>>2497059
I guess you could start with using your enemies blood as paint, that's pretty metal.
>>2497053
You have the right idea anon, you're just bad at painting value.
>>2497064
I like the brush you've selected. I feel like you're on the right track with that even though I don't find the figure itself very interesting. (Try flipping your canvas, he's kind of leaning and things aren't very symmetrical.) Try looking up anatomy tutorials for different body shapes as well.
However, I would suggest doing value studies because your painting doesn't have much value to it outside of the background.
>>2496872
Like this a-lot.
>>2497068
Wow, I didn't even notice the lean until you pointed it out. Fuck. Now I can't look at it without thinking he's going to fall over.
Anatomy is my bane, though the thing I'm drawing isn't really a human, so it's not a good model to test that on.
Is the problem that there isn't enough contrast? I'll be honest, I've never really studied color theory or values, so there are a lot of flaws (that I'm unaware of) in my technique.
>I like the brush you've selected
Square brush 4lyfe. Probably my favorite brush for shading.
>>2496872
Holy shit this is absolutely amazing! Blog?
>>2497076
It looks great in digital! I like square or middle flat (Sai), anything other than a circle makes it feel more alive, imo.
Your drawing is a bit humanoid, human anatomy does play a part even if the masses wouldn't exactly call it human.
Yes, contrast is a really big deal for the type of style you're painting in. Unless you want your paintings to be absolutely flat with very little to translate to the viewer (Because you have no lineart.), I would suggest you grab a charcoal or ebony pencil to start working on values!
>>2497088
I abandoned the pencil/pen after picking up the stylus, but I'll definitely work on adding more contrast in the future now.
I certainly do not want flatness.
trying to figure out the best way to lay out the details, since I want it cathedrally/hr giger detail ish
>>2497081
This is pretty fantastic.
>>2496200
Thanks. Very helpful
I tried to follow your advice for the refined sketch.
>>2497778
You're welcome. It's looking better. I'd say her torso could stand to be a little longer and the far leg still looks a tad too high.
>>2497135
Don't worry about details right now.
>>2496064
>>2496514
very nice
>>2497081
Is that graphite?
bout to start rendering and i need to know if there's anything i need to fix before i go for it.
>>2498061
Tiny legs
Some feedback please?
>>2498187
That weapons retarded
>>2498203
Not the artist, but how is it retarded? Besides the hand-guard making it impractical to actually rotate and use the hammer end.
>>2498208
its just kind of silly. swords, axes, spears, bow and arrows. those are the weapons people used. this is overdesigned and honestly doesn't even look that scary. it looks more like a tool than a weapon. like something you'd use to unclog your toilet
Now that I think about it, I probably should've posted >>2498209 here.
Could I get some feedback?
>>2498187
this better not be a main character of sorts because its very generic.
>>2498187
your leather straps look awesome
mmm i'm not really an expert artist, but to me, the skin's shading and lighting just seems off. I mean, the drawing looks awesome, but the skin doesn't look 100% like skin should. I think maybe the skin looks too hard, and it doesn't look like its soft
>>2498215
looks fine to me. its sort of undefined in some areas but I think that's what you're going for
>>2498222
>I am certain somewhere in time steel picks used as weapons
and that guy was swiftly and easily killed by a guy with a sword
person
>>2498233
other person
>>2496182
Nice theme.
I see what you mean by the anataomy being a little off, but it's hardly noticeable. The only issues I see in that department are the right leg of the female, which is pretty well avoided by the eye movement of the staff, and the guy's legs.
Like I said though, these aren't really taking away from the piece. The level of detail is impressive and detracts from any minor error.
In this way the first piece you posted is more impressive because it's so bare, which would flesh out any mistake, whereas this one distracts from mistakes with a lot of eye movement.
Super cool. Sorry for the late response
>>2496415
>>2496465
Lol sure.
Color balance is on point, although the steeple is a little dark. I wouldn't try to fix it by darkening any other part though.
The perspective on the circular windows is a little off. The top one looks a little sharp (like a football). You nailed the lower windows.
Nice touch with the extended lawn for the tombstone.
Tasteful use of the paper's texture.
You should check out Michael Reardon. Really cool watercolor architectural representations.
Thanks to the guy who did this redline for me.
Anyway, I did some corrections. My main concern right now is does she look feminine enough? She's suppose to be Nancy Maruhaki from Read or Die.
Trying to render her a bit more than her anime depiction.
Sry for bad resolution. Just a phone-photo with quick photoshop to plan further colouring.
>>2498517
Looks like a way better version of the thing I tried (and failed) to make.
Really cool stuff. Hope I can get as good as you one day.
>>2498521
thanks m8, pretty much had some sort of medievalish evangelion-thingy in mind
>>2498522
Post again when it's done. I love this sort of shit.
Tried some stuff out since I've been slacking like crazy, unfortunately the I don't have alot of red copic markers so the colors I ended up having looked way to similar.
>>2498527
I really like this, it looks like questionable ground beef. Surprise, instead of having hamburger helper, the hamburgers having you.
I love that arm but my mind kinda wonders where it's coming from. It appears to be sticking out from between two of the mouths.
What did you use to make the saliva?
>>2498547
Jesus christ anon you just made my fuckin day. I was thinking the reason the arm is there its more of a creature that never really takes shape but tries different forms, kind of like The Thing if it couldn't make up its mind. And I used just a nice white Gelly Roll pen.
>>2498554
Ahh, I see. Perhaps it was because of the saliva, but my first thought was that the arm might be part of a meal for the creature. The saliva is grade A, by the way.
>>2498449
The way you are rendering is just way off. Take above the breasts and the bra part of her suit: you have all these paint strokes with different values describing what should be a smooth form transitions. You're using way too many strokes and the end result looks blotchy and diseased. Try rendering some simple spheres correctly and compare that to what you're trying to do.
You're trying to render with a tiny low opacity brush and that's such a hard way to do that. Try lassoing out just one simple form, like the part of her suit cupping her right breast, filling in one flat color, and using a huge (as large as the form you're filling in or larger), soft brush with pressure set to opacity (and, depending on your program, set it so a stroke that passes over itself multiple times won't add more paint unless you press harder) When you lasso out an area like that you can make smooth gradients with massive strokes without fear of fucking up the surrounding painting.
Hope that helps. Read or Die is amazing.
>>2498592
Just reread that and realized how incomplete my advice was. Watch this http://www.ctrlpaint.com/dp101-4/ starting at 4:08 . He makes big, smooth, sexy shapes and then erases them into the correct shape. Lassoing the shape beforehand accomplishes the same thing if you already know what the shape should be. Sections 8 through 12 in his video library explain everything you'd want to know and they're free.
>>2498568
Thanks man, I had a suggestion from a friend to add more saliva around the teeth and gums but I think that might be adding to much white ink.
>>2498187
he looks like hes leaning to the right a lil bit
>>2497858
thanks, does this look better?
Started rendering the spooky skeleton a bit too much so I've taken 10 steps back and worked on rendering out the foreground. About an hour or 2 into picture so far
Crit on anything would be immensely appreciated
Just crit my shit up folks
>>2498860
acually draw shit before trying to render it
>>2498230
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseman%27s_pick
Stop bothering people with stupid comments and read your weapon history.
>>2498230
>swords
>effective weapons against armored foes
You're just showing you have no fucking idea what you're talking about. Tons of knights used hammers and picks because they could punch through chainmail and plate. You go and try and do that with a sword.
>>2498852
Yes, might want to readjust the front antenna thing just a tad.
Good job anon
>>2498950
God you guys are nerds
>>2498972
And without us he'd be banging a chipped to shit sword against a steel plated foe while also enjoying a lovely war pick in his gut. ACCURACY NIGGAY IT IS IMPORTANT.
>>2498976
What about the part where his only armor is a helmet and a giant shoulder pad? Accuracy my ass lol
>>2499004
Uuuuugh, mobility? Aright Ya got me there, his got more of a merc vibe looking like that though.
>>2498592
Thanks friendo, I'll apply these to the next pass I do. I'm not as focused on the rendering part, more worried about my facial anatomy. Excuse my pun, but I want the read ability of her face to come off quick that it's Nancy from Read or Die.
Dirty :c
>>2496182
What materials did you use for this?
>>2498517
my 18 years old self would worship your feet everyday.
>>2498925
There was a sketch later underneath but it was pretty primitive I get what you mean and I often do quite elaborate sketches but they always feel so engineered. Just trying to break away and have some fun :c
my photoshop zoom tool went from manually zooming to selection zooming, i may have pressed a hotkey by mistake but have no clue how to undo it.
help plz
Can I save this? Or just time to scrap it?
>>2499336
refine it and color it, could be good.
wip give advice plz
>>2499336
Looks good to me anon. Only thing I might change is on the woman with the kid. Her leg closest to the kid should be closer to him. Right now she looks like she's leaning but if you move that leg over a bit she should look balanced.
What brushes do you guys use for sketching?
What sensitivity do you use?
What techniques do you use for sketching in general?
Obviously a digital art question. I'm having trouble with sketching properly.
critique on my study?
>>2499309
Have you tried turning it off and then back on?
hey where should I place the light source in this
>>2499349
Its not about the tools, mainly personal preferencw.
Many people like to use a hard round. If youre having trouble sketching then go at it pn a piece of actualy paper, and then try to emulate the feel if you insist on going digital
>>2499391
Wherever you want. 100% serious, what kind of feeling are you going for? Kinda like asking "what should i draw"
>>2499301
Maybe be more inventive with rock-structures in the background? I get it, that it can have more of a solitude-valley-feeling if you leave the background that foggy/empty.
Or try out some crazy cloud-formations or sth
Life drawings from the weekend
>>2499399
>>2499400
>>2499402
hnnnnnggg
>>2499402
Hiding in plain sight...good move, Bigfoot.
>>2499402
Why you gotta take blurry pics at weird angles, not resize or crop them anon?
Hard to give decent critique with the image so distorted
>>2499402
time on the pose? looks like you were kind of at the end of what you were capable of with this pose. try to focus less on constructed gesture and more on value and measurements in your head. just too stylized. but that might be lack of experience. really try to rein it in and just draw what you see.
it'll be harder to do longer poses if you stylize like this because you'll be aiming for simplicity and gesture every time and won't want to render things fully because it'll break the stylization.
this looks too finished and comfortable. you should find a more difficult way to draw things. something you struggle with.
Could I have some tips on my linework and stylisation please?
>>2499461
thanks for the boner
>>2498891
>"gimme a high five"
>>2499430
About an hour with 10 minute breaks scattered in there somewhere. I guess tou are right. Ive been doing quick gestures like on the page of the first image I posted for months now and rarely make it to the longer sessions like I did on saturday. I'm not trying to be comfortable, that's hust the only way I understand how to draw right now since I can get those sorts of marks down really fast I guess.
I'm getting pretty good at drawing in this way I suppose, so do you have an example of anotger way of rendering poses out? Just assume that the three images I posted are the only 3 ways I know atm.
>>2499461
Brute force is a shit style. Learn line economy and simplify the information you transcribe.
Erratic as fuck/10
>>2499512
Could you recommend any exercises you can recommend and things to keep an eye out for next time? And what might be the priorities to keep on figures when trying not to be overly complicated then? Finally, what's brute force?
I know I sound like I'm asking to be spoonfed but I'm frustrated from seeing a lack of progress.
>>2499502
id recommend examining van gogh's early work. his later work was much more gestural but his early stuff was a lot more measured, and more importantly finished, compared to the work that he grew into. There's a lot of long studies of figures sewing, and landscapes that are rendered down to the last line possible.
think of it like you do that work so you can get to the work the stuff you posted wants to be. that doesn't necessarily mean figure drawings done realistically since figures should really be painted in one session but i'd recommend landscapes. go find an area you like and spend as much time on a drawing there as you can possibly muster.
right now i see a lot of time spent on the outline, but not the values or the form of what you are drawing. there's a lot of implied form and a few hatch marks here and there, but really try to render every bit of what you are drawing. if there's a color or value you are translating onto the paper you have a pencil for it. unless it's a light source or a reflection there shouldn't be any white.
i'll just give this image as an example of the kind of work you should aspire to that van gogh did. don't get caught up in what he did the day before he died, try to emulate what he was doing at the start of his career.
that being said try to be fluid in your studies. do a lot of them, and try different things but always come back to your version of realism and what you are comfortable with. some days you might go out to draw a landscape and just do composition studies or individual trees or rocks, some days you might feel up to doing a whole drawing on bigger paper.
>>2499523
the reason im harping on landscape studies is that you don't have a model to draw everyday. you'll find as you do it more that you really want to be doing drawings as much as you can, and even if you want to be a great portrait or figurative artist it's just not feasible when you are starting out. it's better to work from nature because if you have the eye for it you can find compositions anywhere that are beautiful the same way a beautiful nude model would be. and you can spend as much time on them as you'd like. it's the same with still lifes if you find enough things you'd like to paint. it's an important thing to have in your back pocket when people are busy or you are tired of the models at your figure drawing sessions. still do it as much as you can, but having a love of nature and knowing what to look for in it to make great paintings is very important.
personally i've been supplementing my lack of models by drawing my hands all the time, but i'm getting tired of that. it's a useful exercise to do a little bit everyday but I'm finding myself drawn outdoors more and more as the weather gets warmer and i still have no regular models to draw.
>>2499523
Good advise. I'll definitely give his older work a look and try to emulate it. Drawing things I'm no good at have gotten me this far so now's as good a time as any to switch techniques again before I start a new sketchbook. Thanks anon.
>>2499524
Yeah I know what you mean. I haven't drawn a landscape in about 4 years so it will be interesting to say the least. But if I want to be a board artist I need to be Able to do that too I suppose. I'll go to the park on sunday and give it a go.
I feel like I haven't been very productive. got to get serious again
Tried to draw a black bronze sculpture in the musee d'orsay
Last one
How's my head construction? Pls crit so I can improve and better notice my mistakes.
>>2500034
Looks alright. The perspective is a bit weird though on the right. The eye and the cheek should recede a bit from the viewer. Also, I don't think there's enough space between the nose and the mouth. It looks squashed. Also remember to suggest the shapes of the lips.
>>2500034
It's fairly off to be honest. Try doing the same thing again but using a photo reference, and pay close attention to the proportions and way the forms sit in relation to each other.
>>2500039
My lips don't fit into the 1/3rd measurement, but when you say suggest the Shape of the lips do you mean having incomplete/broken lines or contour lines? Thanks for the feedback
>>2500054
Incomplete lines I suppose. I use shadow to suggest the shape of the lips as they are things that protude from the face.
the legs kind of feel wonky, does anyone have any tips or anything?
what did I do right, and where did I fuck up?
>>2500061
they're fine except you've made them flat and removed the ass
>>2495980
Sketching n stuff
Just testing the software, since I installed ganoo linucs on this machine.
>>2500113
samefag here
Working on various character designs. Going to color it soon.
>>2500034
nose too close to mouth, eyes too big/ too close together, nose too long, ear too small, neck too small for that big of a head.
So far its pretty lame, mate
Hi IC, I'm in the middle of something important here and would be very grateful if you gave your opinion.
Let's start from the beginning - More or less one year and a half ago I started drawing and decided it would be my career choice, so I started reading some Loomis books and focusing primarily on Anatomy, skipped many steps on what concerns the general learning curve of drawing; Did one artistic drawing course with an famous DC/Marvel artist that opened a studio nearby and it was mostly focused on anatomy/textures/shading/a bit on perspective but didn't cover some fundamental stuff either.
So now, one month or so ago I started feeling unhappy about my anatomy/drawing ambients and shit from observation and decided to review the basics from scratch,
So, I decided that for the next three months I'd focus on drawing only from observation on my studies. On the present time I'm reading Bert Dodoson's "Keys to Drawing" that covers most of the basics from what I heard about it.
I would like your opinion about what I decided to do, more books about drawing from observation(preferably that can be found on line to download) and who knows what else,
Thanks for the attention
These were the last ones I did, spent 10 mins on each one(didn't do any kind of sketch/measuring on the faces, just traced the lines my eyes were showing)
>>2500275
Here
I'm focusing more on quantity over quality for now, this is what I'm trying to achieve
>>2500275
This was the kind of stuff I did before, sorry for spamming and for any eventual grammar problems, my english is kinda rusty
>>2500275
>a year and a half
>be my career choice
youre too late.
>>2500275
>>2500280
If you want a better assessment post something that isn't just a 'study' or 'practice', something that you took your time on. Anyone's practice can look like total shit but if it's something you drew more seriously then we know all the mistakes that are still there were overlooked.
These are garbage and don't reveal anything concrete about your skill besides how little care about your practice. And you were trying to 'achieve' that second picture as an aesthetic while practicing the first pic or that's just your overall goal? Either way everything about that is completely retarded.
why is it so hard to improve
>>2500393
This is pretty nice, wish the photo was clearer
oh look its my stupid fucking face again
>>2500430
I hate everything about this ugly painting but it's not bad.
>>2500275
Study anatomy books and study each individual body part. Just simply copying images of people isnt enough. Draw bones and figure out the relationship between the exterior and the interior. This will allow you to have a better understanding of where certain body parts should be and what their aproximate sizes are
>>2500190
Got yourself a tumblr or some got of blog?
Solid Snake from the Metal Gear Solid series.
Please give me advice and criticism, thank you.
derp i hav no idea wat im doin
>>2499518
Use less lines and draw from your shoulder.
For priorities, I mean, its probably best to ask yourself what you're tying to achieve.
A high frequency style (meaning many marks/fast variation and repetition in elements) will tend to make a higher energy and busier picture. And the inverse tends to hold for low frequency styles.
Brute force is a perhaps oblique reference to a problem solving method- in this instance, the problem is drawing well, and your solution is to make as many marks as are needed for accuracy, Learn to edit and modify- just because a picture shows certain detail doesn't mean it looks better, or even more realistic, that way. You placed things in the right place, but its ugly and shows low confidence.
I'd recommend drawing as large as possible on newsprint or butcher paper with like a fucking crayon or some other shit you can't erase.
>>2500649
add darker tones in it as well and finish it and it will be nice.
Too lazy to find beginner thread, so here it is. Head is too big or face is too small, might add some hair to hide that hideous ear.
Is her posture ok?
>>2501010
you can use catalog.
It's still really muddy, but any advice/pointers?
>>2501069
Everything is still really dark. You also are treating it like it's made of clay. Everything has the exact same local value and everything is the same material (matte). How can you render it to make it feel like the armor is a large plate of polished metal, the skin is a semi transparent organic thing, the cloth is a thick cotton, the chainmail is slightly old and worn, his hair is greasy, his boots are leather etc. Rather than treat everything the same which looks bland and dull, treat the materials differently. How does a white cloth look different from a black cloth? How does the blade of his sword look different from both of those cloths?
I would recommend getting some reference to help you, and then start making things more specific and bringing in more variety.
>>2501131
bullshit post desu
>>2501069
this>>2501131
>>2500591
I like it a lot, the only thing is that the gun seems really flimsy
>>2501271
The shines on his nose seem out of place to me
what do you think?
>>2501388
Lay off the soft brush for a bit. Everything has a mushy appearance. Think more of the planar structure of things and paint it in cleanly rather than using the same soft brush everywhere. Be careful too of muddy colour, you have some greens and greys that look pretty unnatural for skintones in there.
Might be good to zoom out and work at a smaller size, you will probably see some errors in colours and value, as well as drawing errors (like how her hear and neck sit on the ribcage, and how the boobs are placed on it too.
My current drawing
WIP
>>2500555
love this
if you're gonna try to rip off benjamin bjorklund at least be up front about it
New
rate me plz
>>2499959
The colors are pretty off, but I think I got the value ranges pretty close. Things I should have done differently?
>>2501512
Oh, I'm flattered, he is great
>>2501510
Very pretty.
>>2501535
Overly simplified coloring on daily sketches.
Forced myself to draw daily. been about 2 weeks or so.
Total practice time is about the same. but what I found is that, doing it everyday is way better than not doing it daily.
>>2501494
thx
>>2501535
>but I think I got the value ranges pretty close. You didn't.
from the ref thread, some like ?
>>2501131
yeah, it was just a rough block-in for now, I'm going to add more variation later, place some lighter values, get some highlights and work more on differentiating the materials from one another. It's still in a very WIP state..
>>2501673
got a page?
Brutus bargue done in graphite
>>2501791
Pretty good job mate! Was this done at home or are you attending an atelier somewhere? How long did it take? This is an advanced plate, so I assume you have done several before this?
On a quick glance it seems quite accurate. The only things that jumped out at me were the shape of the nostril is a bit off (yours is too much a sharp triangle shape) and the shape and feel of the laugh line crease projecting off the nose is wrong as well. But those are very minor nitpicks. Overall I think you captured things very accurately. The head as a whole feels a bit narrower in yours though. I'm not sure if it's the face your value range isn't as deep or if it is an actual drawing error, like I think maybe the neck on your might be a few millimeters too thick on the right, which would make the head appear thinner. Or maybe that's just lens distortion making the original in the photo look a bit skewed.
>>2501977
You can keep a layer filled with black with the mode set to Saturation, then keep it on top of your painting. Toggle it on and off to view the greyscale version of it to do a quick value check. Don't rely on it too much, but use it for a quick check now and then if you aren't certain of something.
>>2501980
Thanks for the tip.
I've also switched over to CMYK color picking so I can change chroma and value independently.
>>2501986
What? Do you mean HSB?
>>2501990
My bad. I was making something for print earlier.
I meant HSB
i made a charcoal drawing. i dont draw in charcoal that much but i just didnt have the energy for pencil
>>2501673
you should do some no ref stuff, i think it would show the real "you" style wise.
Some stuff I drew
>>2498187
Not bad. You're moving into rendering too soon, though. If you do that, look forward to a slogfest of trying to design at the same time as you render. Huge time waster. Nail down the drawing first if you don't want to spend a month on every character painting.
No reference.
Character is Noa from Soccer Spirits.
Drawn using Autodesk Sketchbook, Xperia C c2305.
Applied what I have learned from Loomis' fun with pencil.
I am not sure where should I head forward from here.
Thanks, /ic/.
>>2495983
this ic cool, should scan and play around in krita or ps.
>>2496033
just stat another drawing and come back to it much later.
>>2496064
uncanny valley, somewhere where caricature should be, maybe make heavier lines.
>>2496110
this kinda of work is good and bad. reasons. for what it is, its nice.
reason why bad. it is obvious that you are heavily relying on refs to draw your figures and in doing so the perspective is shit.
>>2496182
same reasons as above. the proportions are retarded. the line width and overall AESTHETIC is nice.
>>2496415
beginner thread.
>>2496439
post ref or fuck off.
>>2496449
see above.
>>2496472
>lazy eye
line inking on the helmet does not in any way match the mark making on the face in any way that is pleasing.; also, post ref.
>>2496501
>animal within geometric shape.jpg
>>2496512
line weight can use more attention and patience.
>>2496514
dont go "too" loose.
>>2496518
annd its shit.
>>2496588
how about you post "large" updates and the ref from now on.
>>2496678
drawing the background would have served you and your audience far better.
>>2496797
i really hope you did not charge someone money for this.
post the finished product?
>>2496840
push your darks within the face and push that background further away (brighter).
>>2496872
dropping the hue value on the grass would not hurt this piece.
>>2497043
pose is very stiff.
try to not cover up the whole character with Armour, its just another method of not having to deal with anatomy issues.
>>2497053
draw, much more. also, find the beginners thread.
>>2497081
patience, you are rushing your way through areas such as the hair. yes, blocking in hair in solid shapes is good, but dont rush it, mark making should be uniform
>>2497135
the strokes in the background are far more pleasing that that of the focal point...
>>2497896
its nice for what it is, you should really try more colour, every post i see from you is lacking that.
>>2498061
proportion problems
>>2498187
generic eric.
>1/2
>>2498517
perspective issues are rampant throughout the piece, but this is a good sketch to utilize as an under-painting.
>>2498527
i can looks and know that this is your comfort zone. step out of it.
>>2498891
you need to visit the beginners thread/ post there.
>>2498897
flip your canvas more often.
>>2499097
>le refed animals in a geometric shape. that ship sailed about 7 years ago m8.
>>2499301
composition is lacking anything interesting.
>>2499309
there is no real feeling of weight. add shadows ect. also, spears are heavy, portray that.
>>2499336
refine it.
>>2499343
another stick salesman.
>>2499355
values. colour is out of ones reach atm, do a grey scale study of the same image and repost.
>>2499391
literally anywhere you want...its your image.
>>2499399
>>2499400
>>2499402
the bottom one is the most successful and i might guess that it was done at the end of the session.
its successful because you have a good balance of self style and actual observance.
>>2499461
use less lines to imply more.
>>2500027
>>2500025
>>2500020
>image size.
loomis.
>>2500034
do about 200 more of these.
>>2500061
this better be for an animation, if not. APPLY YOURSELF.
>>2500113
rim lightning is pleasing.
construction needs work.
stroke economy needs more patience.
stop and pay attention to every plane you are working,really make sure that every time you touch the tablet to make a mark, it is carrying its weight.
>>2500146
no
>>2500190
de-saturate.
>>2500214
style thread is your friend here.
>>2500276
good energy felt, decent representation.
looks as if you are hanging everything from the head down, draping almost. remember the body is an entire thing. focus too much on refining the face/head and your figures will feel floppy.
>>2500280
beginners thread.
>>2500393
this had something going for it.
but you just had to do a split colour background and go too fast with your hatching. work bigger.
>>2500395
proportions/perspective.
>continued 2/2
>need another page 2/3
