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How does this make you feel?
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Sad.
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Jesus Christ, no way this is real.
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Cheaper =/= Better

It seems pretty obvious but try telling that to corporations that are looking to monetize on people's emotions. If it was easier to animate using cardboard, hot glue guns, and homeless people's limbs I'm sure they'd use it.
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The bottom doesn't even show all the frames to that animation.
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>>2490218
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>>2490240
lmao she´s like a fucking robot in the new one no emotion at all
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It's especially sad considering this is the fucking intro. They couldn't even be bothered to pay those Koreans a little bit extra to do a proper job on the one thing that they only had to animate once, but gets used every goddamn episode.
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>>2490218

fuck

This is how I know I'm destined to be an independent animator
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>>2490218
>>2490240
Why do Japs animate more with half of the budget western cartoons have?
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>>2490477
anime is easier to draw and their artists are worked to their bones
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>>2490492
definitely not easier to draw, but yeah they're worked like slaves and the country has a larger pool of talent
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>>2490218
>>2490240
this is just saddening
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Because we all watch Simpsons for its mind blowing animation

>I watch family guy instead because the animation is better
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>>2490510
anime is much easier to draw. Producers make it easy with same faces, minimal shape changes, and static backgrounds to say the least
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>>2490539
Do you know what Sazae-san is? If not, I recommend you google it, as it is the longest running anime with the most episodes. It is also drawn today the same as it was in the 90s, not even just using technology to immitate a look but using mostly the same technology they did in the 90s.

No one watches Sazae-san for the animation either, but you know what, there are such things as dedication to craft and respect for a work, which is something modern Simpsons utterly lacks. And the animation isn't the only thing about the Simpsons that's gotten shittier over time either, it is merely a symptom of the problem

>>2490477
Americans love wasting money on their cartoons. The voice actors for Family guy are each paid more money per episode that it takes to animate a whole single cour anime series, and pay the voice actors of that series.
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I think I read somewhere they were going to incorporate a gag of the week into all the characters intro's. They also needed to cut the time of the intro.
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>>2490477
Are you joking

75% of the average anime episode is busts of characters standing over a backdrop and their mouth cycling three different frames and their eyes blinking
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>>2490240
>two frame fist shake
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>2490723
At least Japs know how to keep their powerpoint presentations interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJpatNI1LH4
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>>2490510
>3fps
>sameface
sure
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>>2490776
>the uploader has not made this video available in your country
racist fuck
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>>2490776
You mean Trigger knows how make powerpoints interesting.
Honestly, they're really good stretching their budgets.
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>>2490240
yellow guy is now brown
fucking SJWs
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>>2490837
And buff

Fucking jews
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>>2490837
the show needs more white people

no, I dont mean yellow
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>>2490776
Ninja Slayer's the best parody of 90s western anime fan's ideas of anime out there that's done by Japanese people.
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Sad, i moss the old simpons art quality as wrll as story writing. No longer is a simgle simpons episode impactful
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>>2490881
It's rare to find a digital cartoon that gets better animation over time. (and those that switch to digital usually don't get better)
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>>2490837
Well isnt it supposed to be apu
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>>2490882
You would thinnk they would because of cheaper animation when digital for stuff like blinking and head turning.

Sign of the times and corporate greed i guess. Honestly one of the reasons I dont lile watching cartoons is the sub par animation a lot of the time
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>>2490837
Does this fucking general get triggered over everything?
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>>2490218
I even prefer this version over the new one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEIzuJZj03U
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>>2490884
Exactly. Most people think "its cheaper and easier to make it equivalent quality in digital form" but then creators often think "we can save even more money by pumping out more episodes easily using digital animation". The only shows I know that have increased animation quality are adult swim shows that were either claymation or anime style.

I'm pissed about Gumball, which was eye candy for a televised cartoon. However, the S1 animation company (Boulder Media) only completed 36 out of 40 episodes by the deadline so they dumped them and nerfed the animation budget for the next seasons. Its gotten better recently but still kinda sloppy.

>>2490891
Nice in its own way. But its got fluidity (for most parts), which you rarely see in televised animation.
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>>2490891
this looks so 90s
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>>2490889
>making classic character niggers is good
t. tumbler
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>>2490929
Apu owns the only shop anyone bothers with
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>>2490931
He owns a different shop. You see, they would have made the character Apu in the original if it was his store
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>>2490549
Not really. A cartoon like the Simpsons is a thousand times more simplified than any anime, while having a hundred times their budget. The faces are literally just easy to draw symbols and their bodies are very broad and simplified shapes. Not even remotely comparable to your average anime, where the figures tend to be fairly realistic and only the facial expressions get simplified.
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>>2490510
>4fps
>clone stamp faces
>most clothes are simple naruto cloaks
>hiding poor animation behind shaking cameras
ayy
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>>2490477
Because Japanese (and Korean) animators are paid like garbage and are overworked.
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>>2490929
go back to pol you cretin. a few minorities make it into a show and white people lose their minds lmao
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>>2492030
>i like the new nigger spiderman captain america and female thor
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>>2490957
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>>2490492
>>2490549
>>2490780
>>2490957


I hate it when people say retarded shit because they can't divorce their negative feelings toward something from the discussion. We're in a fucking art board, there shouldn't even be a need to point out western character designs are generally far more somple. You autistic fucks are verly likely equating simple to bad and complex to good, which is why you're having a hard time saying anime designs are more complex.
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>>2490765
Who would actually notice this shit?
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>people still getting mad at this
>not getting that it was obviously made shorter and less detailed so you can have the scene with the two babies afterward
reddit, imgur and 9gag get mad at this
c'mon guys, you re better than that

>>2490477
>no regulation preventing them from having people working arround the clock for the same shitty pay
>optimisation (75% of an episode has very little movement so the whole budget can be burned on fancy attention-grabbing moments that makes you forget than all the rest was basically 10 frames per second with three-coloured backgrounds or close shots on characters faces)
Also, there is some western stuff with quality animation, it's just saved for TV-movies and such (see Marvel and DC's animation departments) since regular cartoons are either for children (who don't really care about it, or at least so says the marketing guys) or are humoristic (and as such "don't need or deserve" the best animation in the world)
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old version is over-animated
new version is under-animated
both suck but the first one took more effor
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK-1zT1gBXk
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>>2492203
>thinking most animes are complex
You need to divorce your weeaboo-ness and see the reality that jap cartoons simply are made to be easier to produce.
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>>2490765
Both are the same, I don't get it.
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>>2490492
>anime is easier to draw
show your work
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>>2492203
Who gives a shit about complex designs if the character only moves its mouth
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FUCKING ENRAGED
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>>2490674
seriously? the animation is pretty simple
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>>2492203
Fuck off back to /a/ you delusional cuck
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>>2492325
banksy sure is full of himself
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>>2492306
>over-animated
Seriously?
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>>2493375
Codeword for:
I'm an elitist and am never going to be satisfied no mater what you do.
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>>2492306
>over-animated
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>>2493375
>>2493424

I'm not that guy but animation is all about pacing. Believe me, too many frames can look very off, especially when you have fairly static scene with low frame count before the sequence.

I mean, see all those walking cycles and bouncing ball examples.
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>>2490723
Go watch redline faggot
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>>2493424
it's an /a/ meme

people would post anime that look pretty good and say how that's a bad thing
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>>2490218
>2016
>still talking about simpsons
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>2490218

thought everyone in this thread would enjoy this

https://youtu.be/9qcY2ERwmaU
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>>2496553
I enjoyed that more than i thought i would. Quality gag
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>>2494660
An outlier is not the norm.
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>>2496553
I liked Hertzfeldts one as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m78gYyTrG7Y
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>>2490265

She's also not supposed to be a sassy black woman. The new animation fits the character better.
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>>2496676
i like hertzfedt but i wish he wasn't so one dimensional
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>>2496916
World of Tomorrow was great though.
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>>2496916
I count more than one dimension in that clip buddy boy
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>>2493259
>being in le 4chinz
>not watching the animu or reading the mango
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>>2490861
Just watched episode 1, this is probably my favourite new anime in a long long time
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>>2490477
>>2490492

what the titty fucking christ are you talking about?

Anime is known for having very little animation but more complex characters. You're fucking retarded.

>>2490510
>larger pool of talent
huehuehuehue
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>>2490898
>>2490891
>lolz random humor
>fake retro look

Fucking christ I hate you faggots.
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>>2497496
been awhile McSalty
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>>2496680
I don't watch the Simpsons but unless her character is that of a garden sprinkler I think they fucked up
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>>2497847
Great post
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>>2490240
>that bottom one
hahahahHAHAHAH LE FUNNY EVIL BABBY XDDDDD
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>>2497847
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>>2490218
like becoming a mind doc just so i have an socially acceptable excuse to preach my pretentious view points on to other just because i don't agree with the way that they choose to live their lives.
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>>2498072
Well then who in the holy hell told me to?
Really though I'd like to know why I flushed it.
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>>2492112
>I'm a 14 year old who has nothing better to do than rant about pointless shit.

Don't like that particular version of the comics? Don't read them.
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>>2492112
>I'm opposed to new things that don't matter to me but matter to people who never got to be superheroes when the canon was being made 20-60 years ago

this is a dumb game
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>>2490477

Because Japanese animators make approximately $5 an hour.
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>>2498065
doesnt really look evil, more really menacing. also ironic shitposting just makes you look like a fucking dumbass
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>>2498339
>people who never got to be superheroes
Huh? When where the auditions held? I never got to be a superhero either.
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>>2493424
as an animator it kinda is.
>flips her hair entire hair all the fuckin way around
>like 6 unneccessary frames of her hair NOT easing and her hand going ever so slightly down
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>>2498631
>as an animator it kinda is.
post your work lol
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>>2490240
As sad as this makes me, I can forgive shoddier animation for the introduction since they likely just wanted to update the look without devoting a big budget to a small part of the entire intro (since the couch gags seem to get much better animation suddenly, and subsequently the series itsself isn't as stiff as the new openings).

But maybe I'm oblivious so if anyone has any kind of comparison clips from the episodes themselves that'd be interesting to see.
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>>2490861
I'm not sure ifthe ninja slayer coming up in google is what's in this gif, any way you can help me with a pic of the main character so I can check? I'm semi retarded sorry
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>>2492288
Except they could've at least given Marge a shocked face like she has for a moment in the older one, rather than not changng AT ALL in ANY way.
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>>2492306
I kind of agree some parts of the old one are over animated. At some point if one action takes too long to look at, the viewer will lose interest and it stops being fluid and just becomes distracting instead. The hairflip in this scene is the most perfect example of that. I still prefer the older one though because at least they tried and cared and had love for it.
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>>2494785
>Using a meme from another board and expecting people to catch on
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>>2496676
God I saw this one and rememberd it really freaking me out. Never paid attenton to who did it. Makes so much fucking sense.

I Agree with other anon though, he is pretty one dimensional but it's because he focuses on story more than the actual art which isn't something I personally like in animation. He likes to do unsettling work but it's all very one-note and could come from literally any of his animations.

I know the one that's like a small movie (it's on netflix right now, forget the name) is pretty critically acclaimed but the super expositional voice over the 2 year old artwork kind of pissed me off a lot.

I like his original works because they were the first to gain nortoriety but seeing his work now makes me think he's kind of like any fine art student hack (you know the kinds, the ones who literally can't paint, draw, sculpt, etc but they love the smell of their own farts so much that they manage to talk people into thinking their simple ass child art has some kind of meaning.

I loathe these kinds of people more than anything else because it's the reason my family kind of sighed when I said I wanted to go to art school until they found out I wanted to make a comic book or be an animator. I don't need this fucker changing peoples' opinion of animation too.

I don't care what anyone says, if you can't draw and you're an animator, I hate you and think you're garbage.
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>>2498971
I thought World of Tomorrow was quite different from his other works.
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