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Im doing this for the sake of tradition.

Post your nsfw, critique work and so on.
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Questions about references for drawing porn will be answered
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>>2468842
Answering from other thread, I'd say so, since that's one of the first things you're attracted to by human instinct.
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if nobody is going to post im going to draw loli and who cares anymore i hate this place
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>>2468868
https://youtu.be/059-0wrJpAU?t=204
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>>2469196
Then leave kiddo
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>>2469202
>Trippe posting
Video didn't jump start to 3:25.
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>>2451763
My take on your pose.
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>>2469211
what the fuck
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i hate this place
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what is the best way to make money drawing porn? wich site is good for comission? i'm interested in doing some side cash that way, any advice?
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>>2468066
Thank you!! That was really helpful! This was a test piece, the original sketch isn't colored yet but I'll be sure to use your tips.

>>2468814
Haha thanks. And yes he is, he really liked her
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>>2469441
im gonna steal it, trace it too and change the baseball bat for a dick. i gonna get millions.
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>>2469448
lmao I doubt that
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>>2469196
Just post it and let normies and sjw's stay buttmad.
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>>2469196
I'm only trolling when someone draws loli lol. I don't really care.
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>>2469211
You literally never improve. I bet you're the type of dude who faps to his own material lmao
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Ok, Im posting here for the first time.
Its been five days since I bought my tablet and Ive been trying it, here is a Ramona inspired by Brian's style.
I wanted to practice in making straight lines from a sketch instead of the usual pencil sketches.
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>>2469211
what flag is that
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>>2469483
Malaysia, our local shitposter
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>>2469474
Post your work.
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>>2469485
how can an entire country be a shitposter
thats like calling rinfag singapore and firez honduras
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>>2469501
He doesn't have a name or a handle. He's just that one faggot shitposter from Malaysia.
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>>2469482
Maybe study anatomy some more, or study thats dude's style a little more.

Hands are ugly. Vagina is out of place imo. But there is a lack of ass. Like there is no ass, as far as I can see. She lacks and glute muscles
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>>2469549
are you talking about the asskissing malaysia namefag in the alt thread?
how is that guy a shitposter nobody cares about him.
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>>2469441
It looks like you meant to draw Hilda, fucked it up along the way and just said "lemme add a baseball bat."
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>>2469578
We know it's your Malaysia stop pretending.
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Who did this one from the last thread? Are the girls OC?
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>>2469669
Forgot the image......
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>>2469671
reimu and superwoman
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just sketching shit.
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>>2469701

The anatomy is pretty lazy. She has no elbow and her neck and head are too small. Just look at the ribcage and ask yourself, "does this look right?"

Apply yourself more.
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i know is lazy, that why i put "sketching shit". and thanks for the tips.
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>>2469579
who the fuck is Hilda??? Nah m8, that's not what's happening here
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>>2469717

You don't know who Hilda is? Never appear before me again and kys.
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>>2469706
what about now
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A couple of pussy selfies I did trying new brushes, they are quick sketches.
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>>2469742
Reminds me of a very abstract happy merchant.
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Tried drawing a trap as practice after a friend suggested it.
Only had a mechanical pencil available so it's not as good as it could be.

I really don't know what I was going for here.
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>>2469945
>trap
muh fetish
>no dicc
might as well be a grill
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the feels when I know I'll never be as good as senpai
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>>2470005
>blatantly trying to copy senpai's signature style
STOP

And you will be as good just draw more
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>>2469671
It's a porn set I'm doing based off of Electra Woman and Dyna Girl
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>>2468855
why do you use my rin face
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>>2470043
whose style is anyone trying to copy here? this is BBC's latest pic.
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>>2470150
make more rin face pls
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>>2470249
what about you find an actual good artist and ask him if he wants to draw more, instead of those shitty abominations that should be cute, and not hideous like they do?
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>>2470257
how about if you stop being autistic
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>>2470260
how about you get some taste, faggot?
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>>2470262
Autism
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>>2470263
tasteless scrub that probably can't even draw, kek.
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>>2469945
kleinfelter's is a hell of a disease
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>>2470267
better than autism
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>>2470267
I'm so sowy for breaking it to ya, tasteless little bitch, but not being autistic and having taste is the only solution here.
so yeah, do the world an /ic/ a favor and either get some taste and maybe even learn to draw, or just kill yourself.
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>>2470267
>>2470282
My God, stop sucking cock and fucking draw.
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>>2470298
>Implying I can't draw and put tasteless dickbrains in their place at the same time.
Try harder.
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>>2470005
Is bbc finally drawing gay porn?
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>>2469969
You can't just imagine that he tucked his deck in between his legs and you're all set.
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Im pretty new to art
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>>2470671
>...and then she farts!
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Did I miss something? Did the porn threads finally die?
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>>2469211
Best one in this thread desu senpai
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>>2470756
>finally
Look guys, a creationist.
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>>2470756

People realized porn is the lowest form of skill and moved on to greener pastures.
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>>2470775
In a month? Damn.
>>2470766
>Look guys, a creationist.
>implying
I was just expecting it
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>>2470154
Then BBC is trying to rip off incase.
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>>2470931
I was in his stream when he was drawing. He made this as a request based on a character of incase.
Senpai really doesn't need to rip off anybody kek.
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>>2470865
I was just being sarcastic about you being glad the porn threads might die.
Are you autistic, or what other problems do you have with the porn threads?
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>>2471188
These threads having been going downhill since about July of last year. It was inevitable. Also, I just have an irrational grudge, is all.
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>>2469726
For a start, that dick looks like it's growing out of her thigh.the centreline places her breasts and neck out of alignment with each other, the back of the head is bulging and her stomach seemed disconnected from her hips.

Eilieen (not Aileen gawsh) is a short and kind of stubby character with big breasts, she doesn't look anything like how you've tried to portray her.
She also has a tail, and her hair isn't up in such a thick pony tail, it's only a small section that should be.
Just fucking stop. Leave Eileen alone.
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I sketched this recently so here
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>>2469211
i love you please make a blog
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>>2468855
First concept for the female lead in a hentai I'm planning. She's supposed to be a hot virgin librarian who's a bit awkward.
Probably gonna be grinding anatomy and shit for a few weeks before I actually start.

pls rate mates.
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>>2471859
This was done kinda quickly too jus' saiyan. I didn't bother finishing the other arm. sry.
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im trying to draw some lewd lizard (luellen) and I need some vision
I've really never done this before so I need someone to confirm that what I'm doing with this body shape (with the features) is correct. the head I would assume is going to be smaller on a realistic scale but this isn't realistic, its just anthro. cartoon anthro.

I know that these pose sketches are suffering from sameface and samepose, so all I need is anyone to tell me that I'm ready to experiment from this point on
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>>2471941

Hello /co/-mrade (webcomic). Try angling the head in different ways a little more, maybe to the side a smidgen, kinda like, you wanna come over feel, (question mark, exclamation)? Try bedroom eyes too, it looks too, friend-zone cartoon friendly, no lewd-idity in it at all. The head too, it is WAY to stiff. Be loose, try some gesture lines and work from there outwards, experiment.
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>>2472010
would you say that the body parts look alright? because I'm about to do just what you said right about now.
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>>2471941
The structure of the head does not match that of the body. The head makes it seem as though there should be a lot more weight on the figure. It might help even things out, but look at some references of lizard women.

To be blunt, it looks like a lizard head on an anime body. But, I should mention that I'm no expert.. Or even beyond beginner when it comes to this stuff. Did a little sketch so you could see what I mean-ish.
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>>2472019

For a quick fix, the torso should be a little more full, and pronounced, not her gazoongas, but her actual chest cavity, rib cage, etc. You can get away barely with the lower torso/hips atm as is, but go ahead and try the other poses anyways.
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>>2472028
ah, I see.
yes, the principle of design relation. big heads = big bodies. I get what you mean. however I was just using the reference sheet given to me by another person to look at and use. honestly, I'd alter the design if I didn't like it so much. thank you for your response though, I'll keep that in mind when designing my own characters.

>>2472029
thank you. I'll try and give her a bigger torso. I'd thought that I would have trouble with some more of the basic arm and leg shaping/sizing, since I don't usually draw humans in general.
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Im working on this, but Im not feeling confortable with any of the PS brushes. I already tried most of them. At first they look nice, but when I disable the sketch layer it looks SO bad, like bad inking.

What would you recommend? Any tips? Im not coloring any of these yet, I want to practice my lines first.
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>>2470005
incase + bbc = this?
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Trying to be loose with mark making. Still very rough, but changes are easier to make when still sketching. Any major issues?
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>>2469211
did i do good squid? have i been a good boy?
im a really bad boy am i squid? i wanna fug
ive too much power oh baby
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always been nervous about drawing anything nsfw, first attempt
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I am going to draw smut. I have gotten sick of trying to grasp realism, so I consider this change as a rebellion unto my own aspirations. Now I am studying women and scratching around the figures.
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>>2471859
Looks like it could maybe be good... eventually.
Would like to see a full character sheet of her with turn arounds and different angles and shit.
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>>2470070
Where do you post your stuff? I want to see the rest.
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>>2472743
>so I consider this change as a rebellion unto my own aspirations

WE'RE BREAKING THE CONDITIONING.
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>>2471859
her face is really well done, i like how the lips came out and the shading around the nose
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>>2469417
Honestly, a quick way is to draw on /h/, /e/ or /d/. If your art is actually good, people will quickly ask if you do commissions and for how much. Less quick (in most cases) is to use Tumblr but again, if it looks good and you use your tags well, the commissions will come in. And then of course deviantart and whatever that porn site everyone likes using.
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>>2469211
>you will never have mikufag make a shitpost about you with dickgirls
Why live.
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>>2472624
Face looks too wonky, all the features are too close scrunched up together. Spread em out and ur good.
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>>2472855
Thanks. Looks like the eyes were to close together.
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>>2472528
this is bbc's illustration of an incase oc.
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what i have so far...
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>>2473042
can't really tell whats going on with that pink shadow, character looks good though, great shading of the muscles
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>>2469211
/ic/ may shit on it but just know I fapped to it you glorious sonovva bitch ;_;7
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Lineart commission
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>>2473401
You're one of the reasons everyone should stop coming here.
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>>2473401
kek I am flattered.
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>>2473450
Her right arm bends asll funny. The mouth is too wide maybe.
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>>2473450
Mouth is the stranger part.
Joker a la "Why so Serious"
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>>2472728
can anyone give me some feedback on the head? hitting the middle ground between realistic and animish/cartoony baffles me
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>>2473450
omg kof girls <3
agreed on the mouth thing
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I tried to do actual lineart but i just erased stray lines from the sketch and figured it looked pretty ok to my penis
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>>2473612
Anything even slightly resembling sexual intercourse looks ok to the penis. That's why obscure fetishists are alright with settling.
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>>2473450
If you want to stylize in an anime way put the mouth lower. You have to exaggerate this if you want to go for cute. Because your mouth is too high, her smile looks like that of a psycho.
Also, her hand is messed up. The palm bends in that direction only at the fingers joints. I think you tried to do a palm in perspective, but instead you made it look like she has obese hands or something.
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>>2473509
just because there are people wthout taste that think with their dicks, you really shouldn't feel flattered. from an artistic standpoint your shit is still only that. shit.
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>>2473612
oh, look, another dickbrain. that's the reason you guys will never make it. stop thinking with your dicks and start looking at your porn from an artistic standpoint. that is with your actual brains.

and no, this doesn't look very okay.
the lineart is stiff and the perspective is bent to accommodate your lack of construction knowledge.
if your dick allows it and you really want to get somewhere, study gesture and construction in perspective.
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>>2469211
omg make a blog already i want to commish you
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>>2473874
either samefagging or just a dickbrain without taste.
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>>2473910
oh right, it could also just be a troll.
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>>2473612
see >>2473678

I'm not really picky about linework in erodrawings, but it looks like a man tbqh.

Do you even know how to color ?
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>>2473671
>just because there are people wthout taste that think with their dicks
In the porn thread? *gasp*
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>>2474050
it doesn't matter who you cater to. you have to have your own standards if you consider yourself a good artist.
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>>2474134
The person you're replying to isn't mikufag, just so you know
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Do anyone here have some clue where I can find some in depth knowledge about the vagina?

I know about doxy's tutorial but I want to build my own groundwork as well.
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>>2474142
Knowledge is a poor word choice.
What about it
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>>2474147
Mostly placement and muscles that affects the fatty tissue of the vulva. I've almost conquered the inner thigh but Hamstring and bottom of the glutes is behaving like a little bitch towards me currently and at the same time trying to figure out at what angles the Ischium affects the ass. I need to know the genital structure for that and figured I ask here if you guys have more sources to draw from so I can complement my stuff better.
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>>2474163
Seems like you want info a gynecologist would know about.
Not sure how much help I can be in source finding.

http://www.glowm.com/section_view/heading/Clinical%20Anatomy%20of%20the%20Vulva,%20Vagina,%20Lower%20Pelvis,%20and%20Perineum/item/445
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>>2474195
Thanks for help, I've found that medical studies, illustrations and books are great when you pair it up with 1080p porn.

I mean, when you have no gf or don't want to get caught hiring a prostitute to find this stuff out you kind of have to go to the closest alternative.
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>>2472728
>>2473604
If you want to strike a nice balance between realism and cartoon proportions, look at the works of artists you admire who have done so. I'd personally recommend sticking to realistic proportions for now, but simplify certain features as needed to preserve a cartoon-ish attractiveness.

As it is, Marie's nose and mouth are too great a distance apart. Her nose looks wrong due in part to the line definition, in part to it being too short for her face, and in part to it being shaped like Squidward's.

I can see that you've got a basic understanding of anatomy, but not too much experience in drawing the naked figure--evidenced by certain mistakes, such as the absurd width of her right arm, the tentative shading and nervous short strokes, which make her look less like a fresh young pop-star and more like a 65-year-old woman.

Anatomy aside, try experimenting with the weight of your lines. As long as you're drawing traditionally, you can use the side of your pencil yo indicate heavily shadowed areas, such as the undersides of her breasts. Don't rely on small detail lines, because if you want Marie to look young and sexy, you're gonna have to embrace youthful simplicity.

Lastly, and most importantly, grab a reference. Even if you don't want to rely on reference, you absolutely need it when you're first starting out drawing anything new. Draw from reference, try again without. Draw from reference again, try without. Repeat until you're comfortable, and then move on.

Pic related is pretty close to the pose you're going for, I think. Reference the shit out of it, or any other picture you choose. Don't let that porn folder go to waste!
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>>2474139
I didn't think I was replaying to mikufag. I was replaying to that anon and was speaking in general.

>>2474142
get laid
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>>2474421
>get laid
Too hard.
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>>2474451
If it remains for more than 4 hours, contact your doctor.
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>>2474454
>If it remains for more than 4 hours, contact your doctor.

Not him but is this true because I know I get hard while I sleep but I don't know for how long it's erect for maybe it's over 4 hours please tell me you're just bullshitting.
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>>2474451
if you think getting laid is hard, wait to see what it means to get good at art kek
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>>2474468
you're not casanova, don't worry
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>>2474468
While you're sleeping doesn't count and it's only a problem if it doesn't go back down. I forget what it is exactly but I think it's a warning sign of either potential heartattack or stroke.
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>>2474472
How do you get good at art if you have an obsession with getting laid ?
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Into my 3rd week of learning to draw.
This is something I've been working on.
I can see that the hatching and hands are pretty poor. This is just a draft.

Tell me what I'm desperately lacking.
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>>2474860
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>>2474860
I suggests you hold back with the "hatching" there really just scribbles. it's pointless if you don't understand form or value. train your eye aka get used to observe. try to do some still life. not the sake of getting a finished piece but just to get used to observe.
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>>2474878
Thanks.
They're mental notes of where clothing is and off putting I guess.
>>2474877
Of course.
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>>2474860

Contours, blind contours, gesture and life (figure) drawing, LOTS and LOTS of LIFE DRAWING, easiest way to god-tier, draw an actual naked live model, it helps a shit ton. Experiment with line thickness. Draw from life, stay the hell away from drawing from photos, only use photos or images for reference material, NOT study material. Imagine, visualize the 2-D image as a 3-D image, it sounds easy, but in application it is, in the beginning, seemingly an impossible task.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contour_drawing

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_contour_drawing

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gesture_drawing

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figure_drawing

Buy, study and read this book, you don't need classes for the most part if you actually DO all the work inside this book. But, that's what most artists lack, if not people in general, self-discipline to see the task through.

>Drawing on the Right Side of your Brain

>http://www.amazon.com/Drawing-Right-Side-Brain-Definitive/dp/1585429201/ref=dp_ob_title_bk

Pro tips:

Look up some old artists, I mean old, the old masters, look them up, study, experiment, understand and make a copy of their work to understand their techniques and level of mastery of their craft/art. See what it means to have a work truly complete and what it takes.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Master

Understand the color wheel and color theory.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_theory

Understand proper shading, shadows, how light affects an object, start with the stupid simple stuff, then SLOWLY work your way up. Understand the 10 shading value scale.

PS: At the bottom of the page in the link it also describes the hardness and softness of pencils, I suggest you buy all of them, along with a fancy asf German metal pencil sharpener, a kneaded eraser and a good solid poly eraser.

>https://wikis.engrade.com/valuescalesdrawingpencil

Work, practice, have fun, and live life free.
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>>2474934
Thanks for the info.
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>>2474934
This is why people usually just say read the sticky.
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>>2474946

Sticky is shit, gotta flip through too much bullshit to find anything, but yes, you are right.
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>>2472506
Looks like you are using the damn pencil tool. You using some low dpi shit?
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>>2474934
>>2474943

Would you say the book is a "use once then toss" kind of thing or do you ever find yourself going back ?

Are the wiki's are fundamentals that need to be drilled in every day until mastery ?
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>>2473614
>>2473678
>>2473918
wow, you guys are right.
i need loomis.
also yea im kinda shitty at coloring and shading so im just trying to practice on complex pieces because im a complete idiot
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>>2474805
getting laid =/= obsession with getting laid

does everyone in here have reading comprehension?
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>>2474860
1st thing you should do is stop trying to draw porn. it's way too difficult for your current level.
2nd thing is to get some art books for beginners. google Loomis books
3rd thing follow those books as they're your bible

your problem is the same as with any other young beginner who is too eager to get good. you're not going to get good by skipping the STEEP learning curve of art. That curve is very STEEP and it should be taken step by step in a specific order (if you skip training of fundamentals you haven't accomplished anything). if you don't you are just going to make it eve STEEPER.
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>>2470005
>>that super-long upper arm that would be on the POV dude out of frame

should be re-done with the subs arm downwards, rather than raised up....it's WAY out of reach of the POV character based on where their chest and lower arm are framed in the picture (no matter how warped the perspective could possibly be).
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>>2472506
Your priorities should be on anatomy and gesture
Even if the pose was good her (ass? vagina?) looks like an open wound
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>>2475043
you are talking to thin air. BBC isn't here anymore.
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>>2475053
yeah i know i know
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>>2474966

Yes and yes, practice daily, also, incorporate timed contour drawings, it helps to speed up your actual drawing speed, 5 to 15 contours, blind contours, gesture and figure drawing. Start for the timed practice with 30 secs to draw a simple mug (cup) with both contour and blind contour, then move onto 60 secs. then onto 5 mins. You'll notice yourself getting faster each time, move onto larger items. Turn a chair over on the ground and draw from the top down, repeat same timed steps above. Then have the chair normally as it should stand and begin drawing from the BOTTOM up, literally start at the legs to draw.

In the book, a good amount of what I am saying will be in there, though I learned my information from college and personal studies. Some of the beginning practice and self study work in the book will seem baby-ish, too easy in fact, but do it, they are fundamental to learning to draw properly. Training your "mind" to draw what the "eye" really sees and relaying that information to the "hand" to properly draw and replicate it through physical motion.

Drawing is the most basic of the basic fundamental fine arts. If you have an amazing foundation in drawing, everything else will be that much easier if not to an extent a breeze vs. others.

Another good practice is to draw the area that is around you, a bedroom is "okay", but get out there, find a nice park, library maybe, maybe somewhere scenic that you enjoy and draw the environment around you.

Also, I forgot to mention, composition, but that comes on a little later after the basics, atm, do not worry about that. But, in creating a exceptionally good piece of art or "smut" the "eye" must follow and read the flow of the image or drawing, it will both stimulate the eye and brain, which keeps the people's attention and peaks their interest. But as I said, focus on the basic stuff, composition will come later.
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>>2474966
>>2475258

Sorry, for the book, I should clarify, no it is not a toss away book, yes I go back to it and use and repeat many of the practices in there to maintain and sharpen my skills further.
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>>2469203
>liking loli
>kiddo
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Again heavily stylized, patchiness is due to acrylics being used (hair and background)
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>>2468855
>FURRY, GURO, SHOTA AND LOLI ARE NOT ALLOWED.

gone for months and come back to this

so we banning art we don't agree with now
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>>2476242
>furry guro shota loli
>art

10/10
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>>2476251
Art is subjective, anonymous user.
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>>2476272
But sfw boards don't really let slide ideals of animal fucking, children fucking, and manslaughter.
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>>2476281
That would be cool if this board were sfw
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>>2476242
>so we banning art we don't agree with now
What is Global Rule #3, for $500
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>>2476306
Who gives a shit what the rules are.
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>>2476306
An outdated set of rules since >>>/trash/ is the furry hideout on 4ch
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>>2476306
>Titties are outlawed depending on what the head looks like
Man... Hiroshima, please.
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>>2476312
Rules for /Trash/
>You can still post normally on /trash/ just like any other board. Global rules 1, 2, 4, 7, 9, 10, 11, 12 and 14 are enforced. The posting of loli or shota pornography is not permitted.

They can post furry there.
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>>2476320
Well, while we're at it, why don't I state the rules for /ic/

/ic/ - Artwork/Critique
Only constructive criticism will be accepted.
>lel
Rude or offensive comments will result in a ban.
>kek
Discussion of drawing tablets belongs in /g/.
>hue

seems like the Janitors have some cleaning to do.
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>>2476328
I remember someone saying something along the lines of "We can say whatever we want" when that is clearly not the case. I'm all for constructive criticism, no buts about it. All I ask is that it's just that. Constructive and not "LOOMIS".
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>>2476328
Dont be that anon who complains and whines. Make sure to report people that dont follow the rules.

As far as Loli is concerned, I think there are some states in the US that can land you some jail time. Apparently in these states, where loli and shota is illegal, you can get hit with child pornography charges.

So in a way global rule 3 is sort of justified
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>>2476336
>>2476336
State laws on this matter don't really matter. Fucking loli onaholes are made and shipped around in america itself.
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>>2476354
>america
Some canadian was forced to enroll in therapy for getting a loli onahole. I think it was on the news.
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>>2476336
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssdsftKZbcc

My face when
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>>2476437
what is even going on
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>>2476437
kinda confusing yee
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>>2476454
>>2476467

It was suppose to be an under the dick shot of a girl getting fucked up the ass.
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>>2476485

Man perhaps needs more specific muscle anatomy since it's a close up.

The guy's supporting his entire body on his quads and is probably using them to go up and down.
They wouldn't look like the woman's who's lying on her back.
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>>2475791
Heavily stiff and heavily out of perspective too.
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>>2472728
Try asking the Splatoon General on /vg/, they know their stuff. Give some very good feedback to their artists too.
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I'm trying guys.
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>>2476437
Great composition.
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>>2476547
trying to get banned or just getting your post deleted?

>>2468855
>FURRY, GURO, SHOTA AND LOLI ARE NOT ALLOWED. (Global rule 3)
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Nother lineart commission
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>>2476554
don't troll them. they obviously don't know what they're doing.
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>>2476579
I'm not trolling. It's not perfect, but there's a great composition in there. I think shaving a little canvas off the bottom would do the trick.
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>>2476578
Your lines are getting better and better. Maybe I can give you just some pointers about anatomy and style.
Style wise you could make her face look a bit more appealing. Try to show the nostrils even if the head is bent forward and the tip and bridge of the nose might cover them. A perky upward nose symbolizes youth and cuteness. Unless your character has prominent features you don't want to lose, then that's the way you want to go.
Another thing you want to address here is her mouth. I'm not sure what kind of expression were you going for (I guess a happy content face), but maybe try to either stylize or push the expression a bit more. In your case you are somewhere in the middle, where you want to be subtle, but you're not managing to achieve that. Remember not to underestimate your audience. A lot of the times stylization means YOU WANT TO DO LESS TO SHOW MORE. Leave some stuff to the imagination by not drawing everything. Let the audience fill the gaps with their own representations. That's what will make the image more appealing to them. They will create their favorite features in their minds.

Next, the overall anatomy.
You have some holes in your knowledge here. Some structural shapes are wrong. Bent tendons and muscle masses that should be straight and firm, bones that connect to nothing instead of muscles and vice versa, fat tissue you put way too much detail into which results in making it unappealing instead of soft and healthy, and so on. Expecially work on your hand anatomy.
I'm not going to point out every single thing in words, so check out the redline instead.

Lineart. You should incorporate more line economy in your strokes. The same way as I explained it for the mouth, you can go way more subtle on certain areas and leave the gap filling to the audience. This way you can make rounded soft object pop out much more (cleavage section!).

Other than that I can only say to keep doing what you are doing. You are definitely on the right track.
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>>2476582
calling this abortion a good composition is bullshit.
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>>2475053
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>>2476648
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>>2476698
Not my problem if you can't see its potential.
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>>2476437
some fixed ur pick
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>>2476723
oooh, now you started using buzzwords like potential, eh?
literally any composition, as shitty as it can get, can have some potential.
you are literally talking 1st class bullshit.
this thing can't be called good composition, because it breaks flow in so many spots and in so many ways, that it almost hurts to look at it.
do you even fucking know what a good composition is?
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>>2476867
Buzzword is more of a buzzword than potential.

A few minor tweaks can fix it right up, mainly the angle of the arm and the negative space at the bottom. Side note, you okay? Sounds like you're having a bad time.
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>>2476870
i'm totally fine. I love to uncover idiots that don't understand art. keep going, sir hackintosh of scrubville.
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>>2477031
I'm sorry lord of artistry, I didn't recognize you right away because you're posting on an anonymous imageboard and you forgot to attach an example of your superior understanding of art.
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are you that good at drawing? can you post a drawing of yours for making our critic?
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>>2477044
That guy is being an uppity faggot about it but I have to agree with him. The composition is probably the worst part of the picture. He's got *okay* anatomy but I am almost certain he used a reference
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>>2477047
no reply mate
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>>2477051
>but I am almost certain he used a reference
You say that like it's a bad thing.

I'll admit the composition isn't done yet, but like I said, I see some great potential in there. It has a nice atmosphere of subjection and security, and I think a few minor tweaks to the composition can easily maximize that atmosphere.

You're allowed to disagree, I'm just having fun watching this angry teen make himself look bad at this point.
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>>2477051
sorry for being an uppity faggot, you are right about that, but I really don't stand idiots that speak about art when they don't have a clue what they're talking about.
his understanding of anatomy and perspecitve is really bad. he almost certainly used a ref, and he used it badly. look at how bad that foreshortened arm is. also the composition is really bad. it makes the entire scene look claustrophobic and the points of interest keep breaking the flow. this guy doesn't have a clue what composition is and so doesn't that tardo who just asked me to post my art. fucking keks haha.
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>>2477059
>angry teen make himself look bad
not just a tardo that has no clue about art
also a major in assuming

please indulge me a bit more and do a redline of the composition, so I can see the awesomeness you are talking about.
if you do it, I can guarantee you that I'll do the same and prove you fucking wrong.

c'mon scrubby, let's do this.
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>>2477059
It's not a bad thing to use a reference at all, but the lack of confidence in his lines (IE chicken scratch) kind of makes it less impressive. I wish he would have done more than "sketch" out his shit before posting it here but that's just me.
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>>2477065
That's a different issue, and I never claimed the piece was good.

>>2477060
>>2477063
>it makes the entire scene look claustrophobic
That's exactly the part I like about it.

>c'mon scrubby, let's do this.
Maybe later if I feel like it, I'm at work right now. I have nothing to prove, you're the one tooting your own horn here.
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>>2476577
Good thing is none of those things, senpai
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>>2477070
well we'll agree to disagree. I wish he'd post his reference
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whats wrong in using a reference??
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>>2477088
nothing, but with lewd art, it shouldn't be super obvious that you used a reference if that makes sense.
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>>2477096
Not sure I get that logic. If you're really good, wouldn't it always look like you used a reference?
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easy rendering, fun to do.
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>>2476953
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>>2477070
>That's exactly the part I like about it.
No matter how much you like this, that's not the point and what he said about the points of interest being placed too chaotically without a previous plan and thus breaking the flow of the picture, is completely true. This composition is nowhere near being a good one.

>>2477077
Well, if that's the case, then you simply don't know how to draw adult bodies.

>>2477088
Nothing, if you know how to do it. This person does not.

>>2477096
In this case it is not super obvious. It's just very poorly done.
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>>2477070
>Maybe later if I feel like it
why am I not surprised you'd be unable to comply kek.

stop trying to sound smart if you don't have enough brain matter to back up your bullshit.
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>>2477176
Yeah, 'cause I'm gonna let my actions be dictated by the judgement of some angry anon on 4chan, who has zero impact on my life.

Your level of buttfluster over something so trivial is frankly amazing.
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>>2477176
I called you an obvious troll last thread and I call you a troll again. You lay out these aggressive ass insults that you call critiques but you weren't even critiquing the picture just the fact that someone liked the picture in a way you didn't and now you're telling them why they need to do a redline to prove why they like what they like about the picture? That's not how redlines work and throughout all of this you still keep saying you're so much more advanced an knowledgeable like anybody's going to just take your word for it. I'm not even gonna give you the benefit of doubt that you might just be stupid, you're blatantly trolling.
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>>2476648
hm, well that's something to think about

thanks
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gonna try doing daily pin-ups
I think the legs are pretty good if simple but the upper body lacks construction and appealing shapes
the apron is probably my favorite part. the japanese are always good at doing flowing clothes with nice shapes that responds to the body
the hair was a crap shoot but it could be worse
ultimately I think the silhouette and positioning is what separates the good from the bad so it's going to be interesting pushing stuff in that direction
suggestions are always appreciated
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Kyle are you around? What is your e-mail? How can I get in touch with you for commissions?
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>>2476787
So Kawaii desu~
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Lookin' for crits before I do any rendering. Thanks!
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>>2477188
you just proved you are a scrub. case closed. stop being butthurt over it by not replying anymore scrubson.
great composition with potential. hahahaha. what a fucking joke.
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>>2477251
it's not a matter of liking a pic or not. I am talking about art technique. composition isn't something you can just dismiss as being a matter of opinion or taste. please stop being fucking butthurt about me not being a fucking spoonfeeding hugging teddy bear and go study drawing instead of posting here, you frustrated excuse for an artist.
if you're so easily triggered by critique and the way people express it (even if it's fucking true!), either stop posting here, or deal with the fact that you're never gonna make it.
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>>2477586
Bottom girl has a tiny torso and a huge head, not sure how you missed that.
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>>2477815
>>2477818
All this fucking posturing. Post a drawing, I dare you.
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Just report the guy for Rule 6.
He needs a 30 day ban to cool his head.
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>>2477822
nah
I'm pretty well known and I don't want to have 4chan idiots trying to ruin my reputation.
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>>2477818
You didn't even critique the drawing. YOU DIDN'T EVEN CRITIQUE THE DRAWING. All you fucking did was come at some guy for saying he could see potential in the drawing like this whole board isn't about helping people get better not expecting them to already be amazing. Then you told them to somehow prove that they saw potential with a redline like wtf??? Now you're just calling people butthurt for pointing out that none of this makes sense? Troll is fucking troll.
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>>2477851
No you're not. You're just some asswipe venting random frustration, and you don't want people to be able to trace your shitty behaviour back to you.

There's plenty of work you could show that wouldn't out you. You could redline the shitty anatomy in the drawing or whatever. But you won't, because you're all bark.
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>>2477867
I don't think he's venting or worried about anyone recognizing him. I don't think he draws at all and is purely here to troll. Nobody could be this obstinately stupid for real. To say grass is red and everyone says wtf no it's green and then just respond with lol ur just butthurt cuz u too much of a pleb to see it's red. There's no way there's any legitimacy to any of that.
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You know, I'm really glad people are seeing this guy out on his bullshit, 9/10 of people with a fucking brain and common sense would not act how this asshole is, being "right" or wrong doesn't matter. You don't have to be an ass to be right. Not being an ass does NOT make you a hugboxing "spoonfeeding hugging teddy bear", fucking trust me I've BEEN in that situation to know what TRUE hugboxing is and no one above giving >>2476437 their critique is hugboxing.
No matter who it is that's not fucking Kyle/ BBC-Chan or whoever's level of skill, this anon goes on a spurging spree spouting "you suck anon, go away and "study"" without giving them full advice on how to "git gud", thinking talking without proof means fucking anything. You don't just get a job being a doctor by going "I know what I'm talking about", you need a damn certificate to PROVE yourself, so a damn redline, drawing of your skill, anything to back up your words would make you less of a spurging asshat, even still your attitude at addressing "critique" is unnecessarily aggressive, I'm really honestly convinced he never had good parenting cause no one with good parents would teach their child to act like a autistic spurg when you try to "give advice".
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>>2477921
He's only pretending to be retarded, anon. He knows full well what he's saying isn't real critique and doesn't make sense and he's purposefully being obtuse and aggressive to get people to waste time arguing with him. I agree he must have shit upbringing to have parents who let their spawn just aspie out all day on the internet instead of getting a job or doing anything meaningful with their life but that's as far as it goes as an excuse for these shitposts.
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>>2477855
I'm not talking about that, YOU FUCKING MORON. I'm talking about the times "you called me out" (fucking kek) for being a big bad meanie boohoo.
here I critiqued an idiot who doesn't know what a good composition is. and in the process I critiqued the drawing. yeah I did, multiple times.

here
>>2476867
>this thing can't be called good composition, because it breaks flow in so many spots and in so many ways, that it almost hurts to look at it.

and here
>>2477060
>his understanding of anatomy and perspecitve is really bad. he almost certainly used a ref, and he used it badly. look at how bad that foreshortened arm is. also the composition is really bad. it makes the entire scene look claustrophobic and the points of interest keep breaking the flow. this guy doesn't have a clue what composition is

quit being a butthurt little bitch. i live off my art. you could literally just lick my fucking shoes, you fucking scrub. i know who you are. i've seen your art. you are a beginner tier dipshit without an ounce of talent.

>>2477867
keep assuming and baiting faggot.
not gonna fall for your desperate attempts at feeling better about yourself kek.

>>2477868
again. get back to your drawings and stop posting. you really don't have a word here, scrub. get good and then come back if you want to be taken seriously.

>>2477921
hahaha.
you need the help of other anons to feel better kiddo? are you going to post that composition breakdown or not? I'm still waiting.
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>>2477930
>keep assuming and baiting faggot.
You're projecting pretty hard there.

>are you going to post that composition breakdown or not? I'm still waiting.
That's not me. By the looks of it, there's like 4 different people calling you out on your bullshit at this point.
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>>2477930
kek loser.
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Lets do some real critiques shall we...

>>2475791
the right side of her face seems to be drooping slightly in comparison to the rest if you mean to make it stylized thats fine but rather than moving the actual pieces if the face downwards you should change the shape itself example. if you draw a straight line from the inside of both of her eyes you can see missmatched height that usually wont happen unless a very large amount of strain is put on the face from a crazy expression so try to draw horizontal lines across from the original eye that you have drawn then using that as a guideline set 3-4 marks around the eye where the eye anchors to the face then change the form in order to make it seem more natural

same as above for the nose mouth and ears
in most cases symettry creates beauty so measure before doing final linework. your line density isnt the best but once again that could eb stylization i dont know however do try to keep the outer edges larger than the inner lines that add details even if you sylize the thickness of the lines whilst doing this it will help

when people are telling you to work on anatomy you dont need to grab a book and memorize every muscle (although it may help) but rather keep in mind that you should pay attention to key features that should seem more distinguished on the face and body by looking at this piece i can tell immediately you did not draw a base stick figure or skeleton before drawing the skin on top of it. almost every artist has had to practice with this method at some point even in anime and especially in westernized artwork. that may help with both proportions and symmetry
>>2476437
you are reaching a point right past the guy i just commented on you most likely had either a skeleton made or a gesture image set down that you composed into a piece. the problem now though is you dont have quite all the muscle knowledge you need in order to create realistic form on the figure. your arms cont.
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>>2477935
calling me out on what bullshit exactly? on me saying that composition is shit?
cmon dude. you are so eager to prove me wrong, but up until now you really haven't managed to come up with any arguments that would disprove my theory about that composition or the fact that you are just a bunch of scrubs who don't have a clue about art and drawing.

>>2477936
don't be jelly anon
it's going to be okay
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>>2477949
cont. your arms are almost symbol drawings of what an arm should be same as the connection points where each limb meets on the body thats the reason why it most likely seems like its too smooth to the eye to be a body. theres a lot of softness represented in the drawing but no hard points that solidify the figure.

the next problem is your proportions are slightly off this is just something you have to practice a bit more im sorry i cant give you more advice.

the face seems a bit scrunched horizontally. this is because the perspective of the skull is not the same perpective of facial features.

the lighting is confused in the piece you seem to have it coming from above right but the shadows dont fall realistically which is helping the confused look you get from the piece. you also dont really have a focal point in the drawing.
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>>2477952
>calling me out on what bullshit exactly?
On behaving like a teenager.

>you are so eager to prove me wrong
What? Not at all, I've been dismissive of your baiting this whole time. I don't care what you think, you seem to be pretty obsessed with what I think.
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>>2477960
>On behaving like a teenager.
wow, you really have to have a degree in science to figure out I'm being toxic and not giving a fuck about how you guys feel about it.
I know I'm right. that's all that matters here.

>What? Not at all,
if you agree or don't care about my opinion on that composition, then just stop fucking posting. are you retarded or something?
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>>2477930
I'll answer this to you this once.
No. I don't need help to prove your an asshole. I've already saw all your sprewing bullshit for the pass weeks from the beginning of this thread and the last >>2467646
There's just so much condescending from your own words, it just kills any and every "critique" you try and pass off. I'm rather surprised you did comment me, you make it seem what I said is true and it struck a nerve, despite how your mannerism is anyways. My point is, I know you're an ass about giving advice, and when people call you out on it you call them hugboxers. No. They aren't bloody hugboxing. If they was, you'd get more of "So good, nice work!", "Can I get your blog?", "Let's be friends, your art is so kawaii desu~!" I've seen people do this, and it's sad. But no, you get >>2477949
among others doing the same, but you go "YOU FUCKING MORON" when your called out giving "advice" while sounding like a God:
>quit being a butthurt little bitch. i live off my art. you could literally just lick my fucking shoes, you fucking scrub. i know who you are. i've seen your art. you are a beginner tier dipshit without an ounce of talent.
Listen to yourself. If you really want to be taken seriously, don't do what you're doing. If you want people to follow your "advice", don't do what you're doing. If you don't want people to call you out for being a overhanded condescending asshole, DON'T. DO. WHAT. YOU. ARE. DOING.
If you can realize this, than I'm sure you'll never have to deal with "idiots." That's all I have to say.
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>>2477986
Well, at least you admit you're being pathetic. Any reason behind it?
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>>2477987
I know I'm an asshole. I don't even try to hide it lol.
but this doesn't change the fact that all I say is true. the only problem here is with you. you are too butthurt because an asshole is better at drawing than you and you can't take the fact that an asshole tells you what you are doing wrong lol.
that's the only problem here. and it's not my problem at all.

keep being a butthurt little bitch and replying to me as much as possible kek
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>>2477993
I don't see this as being pathetic
i just don't give a fuck about you guys and I like to shit on idiots who think porn can be drawn by beginner tier scrubs. that's all there is to it.
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>>2478008
>you are too butthurt because an asshole is better at drawing than you
Provide any way shape or form of proof.

>i just don't give a fuck about you guys
This edgelord. You're shitting up the thread with your teenage angst, redline the drawing, prove you can do anything besides bitch.
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>>2478008
Im sure you got really fucked with critics/academic results and you come here to show your anger to rookies who just want to learn.
The main difference is you cant really improve too much and your style doesnt have success, you are too salty about it and this is your only way to try to grow your ego, bashing others art.

Better start doing something better off your life anon. Making art wont take you out of your parents basement. At least not for you.
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>>2478069
if there is anything remotely good that we could say it resembles art in these threads I don't bash it. I give actual tips how to improve stuff that person needs to improve.
when I see scrubs that can't even hold a pencil correctly yet trying to draw porn, which is one of the hardest things to do if you want it to look god, then yeah, I just try to scare the shit out of them. not because I want to be an asshole at all costs. just because they don't deserve better. they're either too stupid to realize what they're doing or either to young (and thus stupid) to realize that art isn't a fucking joke.
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>>2478013
i don't have to prove nothing to you, scrublord.
my critique of your shitty art is spot on, and this is all the proof you need to realize you are wasting both of our time.
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Are you guys really arguing because someone's fee-fee's got hurt over a critique?
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Say I need a redline but its for furshit, em I better of drawing generic undefined animu grill instead (ie change the head :^) to get a better chance of somebody who knows their shit redlining me?
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>>2478141
Nobody's feelings were hurt and that wasn't a critique. This board is for honest critique and people who talk out of their ass always get called out. Saying shit like "I'm way better than you, u jelly, no I'm not gonna show my art just know I'm better" is never going to be taken seriously. Arguing with someone for complimenting a drawing you don't like isn't a critique it's just you being a jealous troll. Everyone should be ignoring and reporting this dumbass.
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>>2478287
I didn't take the time to read what all the fuss was all about but it seemed to me someone got butthurt over a comment and this is usually what starts a shitstorm around here so it basically boils down to stop liking what I don't like or muh feels.

Point in case you making a big deal about it and going as far as saying everyone should report goes to show how fragile you faggots are so either develop a thick skin now or go suck your thumb at your nearest safe space.
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>>2478287
saying that a composition isn't good after someone falsely said it is, is something totally cool imo. it doesn't matter if the one saying it is an asshole or not.
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>>2478299
>Missing what the argument was about
>>2478294
>bad use of the safe space meme
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>>2478294
>>2478299
He's the one who made a big deal out of someone saying they liked something out of the picture. There were like 4 other replies to it with criticism did he really need to start a huge argument with that one guy? If he really cared sooo much about letting the artist know what he should do better he'd reply to the drawing. Instead he jumped on a guy for saying he liked the idea while it could be executed better, and loaded it up with buzzwords like butthurt and scrub and pleb, not even aimed at the artwork but at some guy's fucking opinion of the artwork. If anyone was acting butthurt it's him. We're only pointing out how stop liking what I don't like isn't critique and insisting he's so good but refusing to prove it is bullshit. Fragility has nothing to do with it. He didn't say anything of substance he just took shots in the dark hoping to hit someone. He's trolling for replies and keeps shitting up threads disrupting the chance for real discussions.
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Ok, returning to the thread, its my first time using color on PS, I started 4 hours ago watching some tutorials and making my own tests with the brushes.
Am I in the right way? Yes, a pussy, it was the first thing I was thinking about.
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>>2478749
Good lord...
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>>2478749
This is fucking horrifying.
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>>2478749
I'd hit her.
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>>2478824
I'd hit her too, with a bat.
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>>2478828
LMAO XD
WHAT A ZINGER
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>>2478749
You really need to work on your faces and stop making your women look like they have herpes
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