Because we should not have to make new threads or post in draw threads with our fundamental exercises.
Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make your mom proud.
AVOID asking unrelated questions, There is a question thread for that.
Visit the usual "Art book Thread" to find your desired books.
Do not forget to PLEASE RESIZE and crop your images before uploading them. 1kpx is fine.
Before asking "what should I read/view/study/learn," Read the f*cking sticky, it's there for a reason: >>1579290 →
There's a new sticky in town! You can see it at https://www.reddit.com/comments/46sb9k/
>Thread study: Try to draw/paint the opening or any other following images.
Feel free to post your original works as well if you're trash.
TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.
Old thread >>2447305
>>2453162
>Do not forget to PLEASE RESIZE and crop your images
fucking OP is 9k x 7k
for the brave people who aren't spooked easily.
>gruesome
>>2453174
it's a ref you fucking mong
I think think 5 refs are more than enough to choose from. Get to drawing cunts! We gone make it!
>>2453188
the ballsack ruins it
>>2453196
most men have those. You just have to get used to it I guess.
>>2453174
That means your drawings, anon.
That said even refs at that resolution are kinda retardedly big.
>>2453174
it's fine for references nigga
>>2453346
Why not?
What I'm getting from learning to stop symbol drawing is to aim for photorealism 100%. Is that right? Obviously photorealism won't be hit but doing it close enough will remove me from symbol drawing?
>>2452808
because everyone has improved ..
So I did a quick sketch before sleep, 3AM in here and I need to be up at 8.
>>2453272
>>2453346
>>2453174
>>2453331
>>2453357
Maybe you assmasters should draw instead of arguing over having too hi-rez refs
>>2453360
The important thing is to draw what you see, not what you know. once you start that, its basically deciding how much detail to put in. Yes, you can shoot for realism but only if your willing to invest the time. Your time is really better spent focusing on gesture and rhythm, getting the feeling of what you see down in as few lines as possible. good luck champ
>>2453423
go to sleep anon. you need it and deserve it. we love you. As for your picture, I know its late but your line quality is really lacking, and its clear to see that you were breaking down a little while working on the hands. Hang in there champ, get sleep
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTW6N5DstHw
Must view before posting! Remember that you are on the steps of a new journey, and one that people spend their lives on! treat yourself nice and be kind. Don't pressure yourself for perfection, just take in and use as much knowledge as you can. Take in every piece of feedback you can and refine it, use it as fuel and push onward. Constantly grow, and someday you will be there. best of luck /beg/!
So I'm working through the Betty Edwards book, and I don't have shit like the viewfinder and frames whatnot. Just paper and pencil. Should I skip the exercises requiring that kinda thing? I'm on the contour line chapter, moving onto negative space without having done the exercise just like how she described it. I just took a picture of my hand and drew it
>>2453504
Sorry, resized the image
How do I paint? How do I shade?
Her arms are tied behind her back btw
>draw something
>think it looks really great
>wake up the next morning
>see it as an incredibly shitty and flawed piece with no sense of flow or direction
>wondering why i thought it was great the day before
is there a word for this?
anatomy study i did at work, hope i'll be able to actually apply it :x
>>2453536
No, but it's something that happens with literally every artist
It's the reason people tell you to take a break or to step back from what you're making.
>>2453536
its call gettin good, i think just seeing it with fresh eyes allows you to see the maladies that plague your drawings. it also means your eyes are improving
>>2453188
I want him to drop those ball into my mouth.
>>2453188
>red dot on the floor
i-is he bleeding?
First time trying landscape sketches. Tried this one free hand.
>>2453657
Why a sledgehammer? Why the nuts? Why is there a bruise/scar on him?
Many questions.
FINALLY starting to find the willpower to work off the rust I've accumulated the past couple of years. It feels so nice to be sketching again.. ;u;
Guys, I need your experience. I attend to a drawing course to an artist highschool, we draw nudes now and I have problems with angles, so yesterday my teacher tossed a drawing frame grid to me (like pic.) and told me to use while practicing. Great help, but while I use this won't I learn only to copy?
>>2453717
size of the head and rest of body make me wonder if I should be calling mods cause she looks 12
>>2453701
For your first, its ok, its not very clear whats going on, the clouds are significantly darker than the sky, sand dunes to the right or an ocean? you need to look at a couple of references to get a grounding at the correct size and feel of things. Aswell as your perspective being off. Keep on at it champ, landscapes are always a pretty fun test of skill
>>2453740
not quite, its a visual aid. It helps your mind break the figure into sectors, and then put them together making a more balanced image. After some practice you'll start to try to do the same but without the grid. Go for it champ. Make me proud
Am i pointless shitting?
If i have a knowledge of face anatomy i can draw it easier
But keep working
>>2453856
Forgot pic
>>2453749
Thanks, I'm on it!
Well it was fun
But some people may think pointless
>>2453909
Pointless how? Dis some good shit m8.
What are your studies?
>>2453920
honestly, read some loomis shit, before
but i have to study for comic
BECAUSE I CAN'T DRAW ANY KIND OF SHIT WITH IMAGINATION
I'll have journey for comic,hentai,manga etc...
and i will visit instructor because i'm lazy and adhd cunt who cant study alone
>>2453909
is this traced or something
>>2453939
draw circle, ,
measure proportion with eye, draw nose first
fix the wrong thing of face
give some value
describing
i learned pencil drawing when i was high school but instructor was pissed off because i am fucking autist
>>2453922
You're on the right path.
If you're having trouble drawing from imagination, try to memorize the construction of the figure (or the face here in this case) then draw it out best from memory. If you're having a hard time remembering something on a specific feature, look for reference then continue your practice.
Just practice it. Attempt it a good 100 times and you should notice progress.
Fell off the wagon for a while. Still working on value scales and gradation. Think I'm slowly getting the hang of it.
Someone please give me a subject to draw, I want to practice perspective, but I dont want to do buildings.
>>2453740
You will learn to see better, as much as I hate using viewfinders and measuring sticks they fucking work.
>>2453536
i've been trying to git gud for 2 years and it never stops happening, i'm never happy with any of my work unless it's just a sketch. kill me
>>2453536
creators curse
It's probably actually just shit though
>>2453994
went with some mcdonalds
I fucked up on the drink.
>>2454046
holy shit how does something like that happen
>>2454050
went too high/too close to vanishing point.
>>2454046
What makes this so funny to me is that everything else you drew looks great, then BOOM Picasso drink
>>2454061
That's how i felt too!
>damn this is actually looking ok
>...shit
>>2454046
omg, why did you draw the lids like that i am soooo curious
>>2454061
>Picasso drink
kek
i can't help but draw without looking at my subject more so than my paper. is this poor etiquette?
MY NIGGAS
My brother is going to Las Vegas next week and wants to buy some art supplies to me. While I usually work on digital, I don't think that our 80$ budget is enough to buy a decent tablet or anything like this there.
So I ask you: Do you have sugestions for pencils/pens or anything else?
Sorry if this isn't the best place to ask it, but looking at the catalog, it seemed to be the closest place to talk about art supplies.
>>2454118
No, that's actually the right way around.
Please post pics related to improving one's ability to draw eyes and mouth. I'm good at constructing the face, getting it ready to draw in the details, but fucking terrible at the details. I at least don't symbol draw.
>>2453909
fuck off, you're not a beginner
How much is a tablet good enough just to start off with?
What do you get from more expensive ones?
>>2454147
Kind of funny.
I have the same problem that you have, but I want to find some digital suplies. So its the opposite I guess.
>>2454164
Tablets are expensive from the start.
If you don't have the funds now for something like an Intuos medium, I would recommend just saving up.
>>2454173
Looks like I have the money then.
I just don't have the skills or knowledge, and I haven't invested enough time to justify that price.
Thanks.
>>2454164
Huions are great and much cheaper than Wacom. 710 pro was like 70$ and it used to be recommended a lot but I think there are newer models now so definitely go check those out before throwing out 300$+ for a wacom.
I got a Wacom One medium for like 60 eurobux but I'm pretty sure those are out of production. For a price like that it's pretty worth it even if you don't have much skill yet. Painting is tons of fun and compared to price of good paint,easel,brushes etc, this is much more affordable.
>>2454147
Go to questions thread next time: >>2451740
To answer your question tho, If you are a beginner and you want to draw, there is no need to spend 80 bucks. You need lots of cheap paper(newsprint rolls or printer paper), some semi-good pencils, pencil sharpener and a kneaded eraser. Maybe some charcoal/conte which is more fun for gesture drawings.
>>2454260
Ok I will check there. Thanks for the advices mate.
>>2454231
bretty good work anon. A few things are off proportion but it all feels good. Keep it up champ I look forward to seeing more from you
>>2454118
No way man, you take in that visual information! put that shit to paper! It doesn't matter how long you look and stare, wither you just look or you use a pencil or a viewfinder to study, just do you and put your worries aside.
>>2454046
The drinks made me have a laughing fit. At least you know your mistakes and even acknowledged them with your little doodle. This being said, everything seems off still. Without your doodle of the hand, we wouldn't visually know how big the drink would be.We would relate it to the burger, the nearest thing our minds knows the size of. And because of that, that means the drink would be very large. On top of that, Its not made clear what the strange box-like things are between the burger and the drink. The closest thing I could relate them to is sauce packets, but they are much too long to be them.
Perhaps the nail in your coffin was the horizon line being so low. Its part of the reason your drink is so strange, and also why your burger seems disconnected from the rest of it. the burger should be closer to the packets, creating depth, but also shown taller and from a lower angle would have given it more uniformity and interest.It was a really valiant effort though champ, give her another shot and make sure to get a strong, solid composition reference
>>2453536
>>2454002
Sounds like you two need a dose of encouragement juice. You are unique. There are ones like you, and even ones that do the same topic as you do, but your work will be different then theirs. Because its created by you. Use that to your advantage. See an issue in your work you hate ? study up and look for a solution. Even if you do one issue at a time per week, after a year that's about 52 issues down. and that's pretty danm good. So you, yea you, reading this now. Hang in there. I believe in all of you. Go champ go
having a really rough time drawing >>2453182
tips for this particular face?
I need to draw 30 different things in my sketchbook for class. I have until monday.
Please post some drawing exercises I should do. I don't mean exercises like draw a line over and over again, but things like tutorials for eyes or mouths or tutorials for skull studies.
>>2454323
>>2454323
Remember to break it down into easily made shapes and build off of it, while making sure your negative space is even so he does not distort. From there, it just comes down to refining it to the level of your choice. Let me take a look at the attempts you have up to this point friend, maybe I can give some more specific advice
Will skills I build drawing on paper, carry over to using a art tablet?
I feel like simplifying the body shouldn't be this hard
1/2
>>2454320
Thanks, for the feedback. The Idea with the low horizon line was to make the burger looks big, but i also make the sauce things enormous so I guess I got the opposite effect. I'll def give it another go today with a reference.
>>2454325
That's an easy do buddy. Its just gonna take some time on your part. If I have alot of pages to fill or just want to practice, I give this place a try
http://earthsworld.com/
It's just filled with a variety of faces that are fun to try and re-create. if your up for figure/gesture drawing, take a shot at
http://reference.sketchdaily.net/en/
They have multiple tabs so you get anything, from just hands, to only birds from the back, to your everyday gesture studies
If your looking for still lives, Remember that every inanimate object, no matter how mundane it is, is a still life waiting to happen! re-arrange that junk into a nice composition with your desk lamp as lighting and you'll be set. Go to it champ! have fun!
Ps: not to be a dick or anything, but all (except earthsworld) of the references I've linked you to were available in the wiki, not to mention dozens more. You should really give it a shot, its more then just a meme <3 good luck
>>2454329
No prob man! some nice figure work you got there. And don't worry, it gets easier the more you do it. Your working at a pretty basic break down level. Papa Loomis will be doing you some good, along with brother Hampton, cousin Vilppu and creepy uncle Bridgeman. From where you are its more a mater of making sure your structures are placed correctly and defining them more and more, while retaining the original gesture (your lacking gesture in these makes them feel stiff champ) That being said,
>>2454330
makes me happy to see that you start going for poses from different angles without ref. push yourself to know your boundaries and then push your boundaries out further. I can see by the last one you were getting tired though, throughout them everything was more less accurate, and by the end the arm length is abysmal. Overall, your coming along great. and with a bit more learning from the Papa, you'll start doing work that you feel more confident in. Keep at it champ
>>2454328
Hell ya! it's not direct, 1-1 because the medium is different, like how drawing doesn't make you a good painter and vice versa, but key things like composition and hand eye co-ordination that you grow when working on drawing, grow on other mediums too. Best of luck champ!
![imaginative-realism[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/gl4zdeK.jpg "imaginative-realism[1].jpg")
>>2454338
Gurney is godsent if your looking to even control values better. Both of his books are great, but the Imaginative realism goes over more basic level things then the other, that goes more in-depth with color. His channel on youtube is fantastic as well. But most of all, use reference. not just one, but many of a similar scene. observe the size and scale of the objects and replicate it. And, if your working with ink, don't be afraid to use washes! a pale grey for the clouds would have been a much better choice. Look forward to seeing the results champ!
Complete beginner here, painting is definitely harder than I had anticipated.
Is trying to paint traditionally in Photoshop complete faggotry though? I'd paint on a real canvas but too poor atm.
>>2453909
Your facial features are all fucked up, spend more time on the lay-in
>>2454355
You're symbol drawing. No shortcuts, just draw what you see.
>>2454498
Thanks for critique
r8
Drawing with photoshop and trying to get these eyes right, and i get the lines and how they are constructed, but drawing digitally, the lines look nowhere near as powerfull. Any recommended brushes for these kind of lines?
forgot the picture
>>2454570
I tried my first time studying anatomy I guess? Halp sirs
im new to painting..what should I start first with? what are the tools needed, anything I need to know? Do I need to be great artist before I jump to painting?
>>2453909
I think the mouth is too small
>>2454584
Read the sticky, it has anything you need to know and where to start.
>Do I need to be great artist before I jump to painting?
No, but i'd start out with drawing at the beginning. The fundamentals you need to learn are easier to practice with pen and paper.
Is this a correct way to get proportions on the face? Is that "relation"?
>>2454771
If you get the correct results then do what works for you. Different methods work for different people.
>>2454801
I'm so lost as how to get the proportions well without a huge heavy grid that feels like... well just tracing by proxy
I'm trying like that
>>2454805
Just place down some really light shapes and move or resize them if they aren't right
>>2454823
Thanks
I feel like this is shit, and it took me at least 4 hours to do. It makes me not want to try this kind of thing again.
ref>https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/Cherry_blossoms_in_Vancouver_3_crop.jpg
>>2454835
Actually that looks better with some shading, even the proportions, less fat
I'm kinda happy but i'll stop there
>>2453506
Almost all exercises include the viewfinder and plastic panel, by the end of the book you won't need it though. I got some really cheap plastic sheets at any art store of school supply stores.
I need some places where I can find references for body parts, interested mainly in arms and legs. Or should I just study the body as a whole?
Jesus i'm getting worse
Fix it later i'm on work
>>2454947
Most references have arms and legs included in them if you look carefully.
you could also try the reference threads
>>2450871
>>2454578
>>2454979
C'mon dude, don't be like that. I was looking for something like Posemaniacs but with just arms or logs in different positions.
>>2455034
Two mirrors?
how the fuck do I draw hands that don't look like fat sausages pls respond
>>2455047
>>2455050
>>2455051
>>2455064
She looks Japanese. Chinese people tend to have rounder faces
Also read "Famous Artist Course" which is where all this stuff is coming from. A quick google should find you a download link.
>>2455071
>>2455071
Thanks anon, I appreciate the feedback, will take a look!
>>2454947
The Vilpuu Drawing Manual, if you haven't already studied it has a great breakdown of every limb.
>>2454933
First time I'm doing such a realistic rendering... finally starting to get how to do "painting"
Except for the proportions, anything specific I should think of when doing lightning?
>>2455084
I think you might want to lighten up your value transitions on the cheek. When highlight and shadow get too close, it can cause the planes to look flatter. Easing up the transition would round it.
>>2455087
Thanks
>>2454352
> like how drawing doesn't make you a good painter and vice versa
Drawing does make you a good painter though.
>key things like composition and hand eye co-ordination (...) grow on other mediums too
Are you retarded?
The fundamentals of drawing work on every medium. The only thing someone switching to digital might have, is adjusting his hand eye coordination. Please don't try to help beginners with your pseudo knowledge.
>>2453162
Am I doing this color thing correctly? As far as shading goes. I still have to study core shadow and reflective lighting
I think i ruined
If i finish thie piece perfectly it will take a 5 day
So if I just draw this once a day, everyday, will I become a good drawer?
>>2455245
as long as you keep training your storing skills
>>2455249
>your storing skills
What do you mean?
>>2455245
It's not about drawing upside down, it's about using the technique you learn from it and applying it to anything drawn from life. That particular drawing is just easy to view as a series of lines.
Are there any really really in depth videos about applying the loomis ball and plane method to drawing portraits of real people? I'm struggling really hard placing everything properly. I've watched proko but I feel like I really need a long ass video so my dumb ass can learn this shit. He does an overly of his head with the planes, but when he actually draws it, it's from imagination, and everything seems to follow the perfect proportions which rarely happens.
Whenever I try to set up the ball and plane, it's always off model from the reference and it just fucks everything up. I find it especially hard since people always vary from the ideal proportions Loomis gives. I really wanna learn to do this right but I've just been sucking shit at it for so long. I dont wanna give up. Even when I finally do get the planes right after trial and error, the details of the face are so fine and even a small discrepancy can destroy the picture. I know its possible, but to me it feels like I'd have to be a computer to get that pin point accuracy. I always find myself erasing and redrawing over and over again trying to get things just right and it really frustrates me.
TL;DR im shit help me pls
>>2455433
Well, not really.
The entire idea of the Loomis ball is to make the head as simple as possible. You can look at Proko's videos since he tries to sum up Head to Hands within his videos, but still doesn't give you too much info.
If your neck is looking off, try drawing the neck as a cylinder. Don't worry about contours. If the neck still looks off, make the cylinder smaller. Do not bend the cylinder.
>>2455438
So is the Loomis technique not meant for portrait drawing? Is it even viable for that? If it isn't, what should I do? I want to draw comics, so I thought learning to draw real people with loomis would help me get used to anatomy before I started stylizing and drawing from imagination.
Is this a bad plan?
Thanks for the advice about the neck.
>>2455442
If you like to draw real people, sure this is a plan.
Jeffrey Watts has some videos on youtube and you can download some of his videos from the internets to see how he uses something similar/improved over Loomis head for the construction phase when drawing people's faces.
There are probably others.
>>2455463
Well I don't really enjoy it that much because I get frustrated, although that will probably go away as I get better. I got the impression that it would be important, so I undertook it anyway because I thought it would be beneficial in the long run. I really just wanna get to the style but I know rushing will just ruin things, and I'm kinda OCD about due process so it would nag at me if I felt i skipped anything even if it was just a little important.
I'll take a look at Jeffery Watts in the mean time. For now I'm just looking at models and trying to apply loomis to draw their basic form before adding details and features.
>>2455492
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc1worxLp4A so you can find the other videos easier
i tried to draw a portrait of me from my imagination
>>2455502
do you even know how to draw a cube
>>2455516
not him, but that kind of condescending comment isnt helpful at all. why dont you tell him what he should improve on and how instead of asking sarcastic questions?
>>2455502
hey there niklas
>>2453162
Tried to draw along this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfyqG21aydM
He makes it look so easy
Started doing this in 20 minutes, can't fix the fast she seems to be leaning forward
>>2455764
Reference (tried to resize the work let me know if i did right, if not tell me how to do
>can't draw no matter how long or hard I practice
>if I draw too long on something it becomes shit
>get told only by people on /ic/ that my art is shit
To all the faggots who give me bad comments without saying anything else I will come to your funeral just to shit on your grave
working on figures for 2 months then seeing these results makes me want to an hero
>>2455779
2 months is not that much, really.
>>2455770
who is this semen demon
>>2455771
>im bad at art waa
literally just keep drawing
there is nothing else you can do at this point other than keep practicing
here's your (You)
all the comments that don't give you critique probably get tired of repeating "practice the fundamentals" over and over which you should do
i drew the skull and the two poses from the refs given. i can't shake that i fucked up the skull somehow, probably the eye placement/general shape.
as for the gestures, how does one go about it? i watched the proko gesture vid to prepare myself but i found it hard to actually put it to good use. would i draw the flow of the entire torso & then use that as a guide for the contours, or use the flow of the contours directly?
Practicing feet.
>>2455879
god i drew a lot today
>>2455881
here's the worst thing i drew today
feel free to give me some hot tips and tricks
>>2455882
quit, you don't have the spark :)
>>2455208
I don't know if you got confused while reading my post, but I said that fundamentals carry between mediums. And Im only slightly disagreeing with you on drawing making you a good painter, since the tools are different and methods are different, its not 1-1. Because I know certain brush strokes does not mean I know how to replicate them while working in pencil. Theres some training to be done in between, but other then that the fundamentals are indeed the same. The goal of my post was to make sure they were not discouraged while transitioning between medium, that's all. I cant tell if you've had a bad day or you're just a hostile anon but you would have been better off to read my post a bit more carefully, that way you wouldn't look quite as foolish, basically yelling at someone you agree with
>>2455887
i said hot tips and tricks not hot memes
>>2455084
Eye is wrong. Close, but wrong.
Upper lip shouldn't have that hard line on the left, same for the nose. Make it a tad bit narrower. As yhe other anon said, either lighten up your darks, or everything.
>>2453536
Realisation.
Made for the tower girls thread. Was intended to be a shark princess but there is so much wrong with it. Could a friendly papa anon redline me so I can scan this in and fix it for the digital redraw
>>2455867
a good way of thinking at first is completely ignoring contours, and think about the forms that create the contours. so get the gesture, then add a bean form for the torso, and long round forms for the arms and legs, all following the gesture. use lines that wrap over the forms to help you to see what's happening too. and once you've done with the basic forms, you can think about adding anatomy onto these
>force myself to draw from the shoulder as i better start sooner rather than later
>regress back to braindamaged chickenscratches
>>2453162
hello again
Help me anon, I'm retarded.
I practice for hours and hours. And I cant wrap my mind around cross hatching.
I cant make the lines work together, they all want to do their own thing.
how will i ever make it without the spark?
>>2455999
wrap them around the forms dude. maybe get good at doing horizontal/vertical wire framing on figures or just basic forms first, after that it should be a lot easier
>>2455833
my art style is unique and isn't western-esque like you dumb hicks
>>2456004
Thank you, that actually helps. Everywhere I read is like: "Just make lines dude, lel. U get it eventually."
I have a better starting point now.
Still at the point where I'm grinding household objects to get better at form.
What could I have done better here, besides not spilling coffee on it?
Do you guys sometimes throw money on art stuff even if you're not that good?
I just went to buy a pencil and I came out of the art store with 4 of those pentel color brushes cause they looked cool ant were on sale and the pocket brush pen. I feel a bit guilty spending all that money because I'm not good enough to really make something that looks good with them but they are fun to use anyway. I feel dirty, like one of those "art haul" youtubers that buy a shitton of copics but can't draw for shit.
>>2456020
it might seem weird but another thing that helped me a lot is studying spirals going around forms. stuff like cacti, pinecones and just simple candy cane patterns helped me to understand what happens to diagonals on a form as they wrap around.
after those try doing diagonal wireframes around figures, and you should be pretty much set for crosshatching in terms of form, then move to working on values
>>2456046
I got them on the figure drawing websites listed on the w/ic/i
https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/#fig
>>2456040
Thanks, I'll try that. Maybe it will help me too!
>>2456063
Didn't know where to look, but I clicked on some wrong links and it lead me to an area that had a listing of local figure drawing places. And holy shit, there's about 6 around my area. I had no idea. Talk about a happy accident.
How did I do?
I did mess with the levels and maybe made the characters too dark.
>>2456078
It's pretty bad, but you probably got a lot out of it at least. you should move on now to something else now fampai.
if you want, I can elaborate more and annotate it
figure from imagination. just kill me now
>>2455779
>>2456085
It is quite the mess, I just got tired of fighting it .
Do elaborate. I'm aware of many problems, but maybe you can point out something I'm not aware off.
>>2456078
m8 you didn't even fix the gesture like we told you to last time you posted a sketch of this. You just dislocated his arm. . Fuck off if you're not going to take advice.
>>2456095
fair enough, if that's the case then i'll just say that I think you need to reconsider how you approach painting a scene like this. when it's dark and the only light source is fire, you can afford to outright ignore the local colour of the various objects depicted in the scene. Most of your composition should be very close to black, and everything else left should just be lit by the fire's light, which is a warm orange hue.
>>2456078
This would be good for you to look at.
It shows what >>2456199 was talking about, specifically with armor. Use a color dropper to pick out the sections of Pearl's armor and you can see all of the greys are quite saturated. There is almost nothing lower than about 40% saturation.
>>2456090
not bad at all, especially from imagination
Hey, /ic/, I need some advice. I know there's a sticky, and I'll continue to browse it, but it's pretty exhaustive and hopefully I can get some more pointed advice from people--particularly who are or were where I'm coming from. My situation is this... Basically, I have a lot of natural talent for drawing. I'm not great and I guess I'd call myself a beginner, but I've always been much better than average at drawing from the time I was a kid. I was a pretty enthusiastic drawer in elementary school and middle school. As of now, I'm pretty decent at drawing certain, more cartoony things from reference--like if given a picture I can draw a pretty good Pikachu or Bugs Bunny for example.
Pic related is an example of something I did--(this was for a thread on /sp/ about drawing famous athletes on this weird ball template thing). This was done in MS Paint just using the mouse. Actually when it comes to drawing I'm ambidextrous even though I'm left handed otherwise.
So I'm not one of those people who "can't even draw a stick figure", but make no mistake I am not at all technically skilled.
All aspects of my drawing need work, but for now I'd like start getting back into drawing by tackling anatomy. I cannot draw really good/accurate anatomy, especially just from memory.
What works for you guys as far as practicing and drawing anatomy? Just in terms of books, or techniques/habits you personally use?
Again, sorry, I know there's a sticky--it's not my intention to be some special snowflake.
TL;DR - Naturally talent drawer who doesn't practice and isn't technically skilled. How do I into anatomy.
>>2456261
please be trolling; i refuse to believe anyone is this un self aware
>>2456261
hampton figure drawing
>>2453162
Hello /ic/!
What is this coloring style called? Water color?
I'm making shit for a roleplaying campaign and I was thinking of just doing this but blue for hologram images and I figured if I found out what to google, I could find a tutorial.
Does it require alot of work to do/learn?
>>2456314
Thank you for the recommendation, I'll check it out.
>>2456318
it's not any specific coloring style, in fact it's just a monochrome painting that doesn't use any blending ie only hard brush strokes.
it looks like the artist started painting each figure by laying in their silhouette in a relatively dark colour, then working up to successively brighter colours for the specific details
you're better off rolling your own or doing something simpler, much simpler.
decide draw porn thing
>have to memorize 1200 muscle
>there are infinite gesture and circumstance and
characters and even perspective
>can't master all that shit even 10years
I'm on my first week of trying to learn all this art shit, I downloaded a bunch of books and whatnot from the sticky. Reading through them is just confusing me and killing all my motivation. I'm trying the practices and it just ain't makin' sense.
I feel like I'd get shit done if I had someone to handhold me or spoonfeed me, should I go to an art school?
If you not smart enough self study i recommend visit instructor (art school is university or college thing i know) i draw what ever shit since i was kid but i'm still shit and even doing now
>>2456393
just draw what you want., even if it's nothing. Also, just look art classes at community colleges
what should I focus on learning-wise?
>>2456393
Draw what you want, and use the books as reference. Be sure to have a good balance of learning all parts of the body. You will only improve with practice.
Some people learn better in a structured environment. Maybe a class is for you.
This is meant to be frustrating. But what matters is getting through it.
I'm trying to learn perspective starting from scratch, and he's what I've got for today.
Am I doing anything wrong with this one?
noob question here, should you mostly use your shoulder to draw everything with little to no wrist?
I drew my hand (my fingers are short in reality too) with a 15 minute timelimit to prove to somebody who only drew Disney style cartoons that I was better at them at art despite never drawing anything since school. I drew this about 5 years ago and I have not drawn anything else since.
I suck at pen control (I only learned how to hold a pen correctly as an adult), but I find drawing what I see fairly easy. Should I just grind straight lines/curves for a few days? Is drawing with arm and shoulder muscles really worth doing?
>>2456415
This is monstrous. you really need to draw from life
>>2456441
aren't the lines supposed to only intersect once on the horizon?
>>2456441
Use a thinner brush and draw with a single line if you're not going to use the line tool. When you start referencing and measuring you're going to want concise points to do it, thick and hatched lines make these points fuzzy and result in error.
Also, if you're doing this for an exercise in visualizing space, draw through the form.
>>2456474
I don't know what you mean, anon. I'm just trying to internalize the first exercises from the Loomis Successful drawing book.
>>2456475
I'll probably just opt for using the line tool because it's more precise. By draw through the form, you mean draw the insides right? That's how I did it initially but I cleaned it up. I'll leave it next time.
Sloppiness aside, did I fuck up too royally or am I headed in the right direction? I'm feeling really unsure about the top and bottom shapes.
>>2453511
Google references of people in the same pose and apply it to your drawing. For shading in general study light logic.
Also pic related, your colors are pretty dull try shading by adjusting color instead of saturation
>>2456451
Drawing from the shoulder is for when you stand or the paper is mounted. This is also where you use a lot of different grips.
When drawing while sitting with the paper close to you, you are best of using a grip similar to when writing (tripod grip) and just use more of your arm for longer lines. Also avoid resting your body on your arms.
still developing that eye tbqh. please tell me what im doing wrong, this time i applied edge control.
>>2456441
Tried to apply the exercise to a figure.
>>2456006
LOOOOOOOOOL
>>2456039
Yea, I just bought a surface despite having never drawn anything in the last 20 years. I figure it's a multipurpose tool though, and a great way to record on the go should I pick up an instrument again.
Just take it as a challenge to yourself to get good. That way, your money isn't wasted, it's invested.
>>2455084
Still haven't done the eyes
>>2455906
Thanks, I think I corrected it.
I tried to replicate the values so hard I began to mess up the colors, what I chose didn't look well when the highlight were near-white
Should study the colors
As for the lines, well, it wasn't supposed to be a painting at first, I'm kind of glad with the result though, should I?
How do I into hair?
>>2456578
you dont draw it strain by strain you draw masses of hair instead, kind of how they do it in animation. if you dont even render it, there will be literally no difference to how they do it in animation.
>>2456577
Nose is still a bit too big though, and the space between the nose and the lips, and the upper lip too. But well the proportions were messed up from the beginning
>>2456585
How they do in animation? You mean like that?
>>2456575
and this is my first attempt at art on the device. It's me, and just a 'trace' from my reflection on the tablet.
>>2456585
Thanks!
>Been getting better
>feel like I understand proportions properly now
>can draw a standard standing pose from front back and slight angle fine now
>getting foot placement and depth going well
But still anything with a limb bent anywhere towards the viewer, I shit the bed
>>2456587
>money shot
>beginner thread
How am I supposed to draw from the shoulder on a tablet? A normal sized intuos is only half the size of a standard sheet of paper. I've spent months learning to draw from the shoulder but every time I use the tablet I regress back to using my hand.
Am I supposed to zoom in and draw every limb seperately? I can't fucking do gesture like that. Help. I'm dying.
>>2456657
You're not good enough at drawing with your shoulder if size is an issue.
Practice more.
>>2456514
You're not pushing your values enough for one.
First figure drawing with no reference
>ignore device rooted
Page made from refs I've snatched from this thread and ic in general. Will go out and draw from life this afternoon.
I never had a problem with chicken scratching but now I sort of regressed I guess and for some reason I started to do it in my sketches? Are there some good excercises to help me stop doing it subconsciously?
>>2456703
experience my dude, there is no secret
>>2456693
remember to resize next time you post
>>2456318
>the fan and spotlight
O i am laffin
>>2455974
ANy tips for this anon?
My approach is to doodle my way to the point where I need to look up refs and fundamentals etc..
The most valuable thing I've learnt by doodling is to always try to do something I've never thought of or considered before.
I have a tendency to do the same lines all the time, but the drawings just gets worse and worse when I do that.
help
>>2456441
You don't have clear vanishing points.
in 2-point perspective, every one of those lines should continue on to intersect the same 2 points on either side of the horizon line.
>>2456393
I'm a noob myself, but may I suggest doodling?
Put something down on paper, that's the fun part. Look up the boring crap when you need it or feel ready for it.
>>2455951
Please send help to me anons
>>2455951
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>>2456462
Why is drawing from life considered the only way to learn figure drawing? Can't you, with a sense of form and perspective, just study photos?
>>2456750
Eh it all looks like random, chaotic scribbles rather than drawings. Pay a little more attention and go slower. Every line should be showing the form, while you have lines all over the place.
>>2455764
Not sure if too late,but here it goes. You have to take landmarks and make use of negative space. On top of that you should try to make less,but cleaner lines instead of scribbling. Think each time befote you draw a line instead of finding the correct one by tracing it 20 times.
we all struggle with these things. Keep practicing and dont get stuck endlessly on a picture. 20 doodles are better than one refined drawing at this stage. Now draw again and come back to post your progress
>>2455951
You are thinking 2d. Go make betty edwards exercises.
And try to clean your lines a little.
Practice practice make more and post
>>2456765
You are missing information because photos have already made the switch to 2d for you. I use photos a lot but I notice faster progress when I go out and draw. Even if it is just a bunch of shaky subway sketches.
>>2456765
it's just very different. Photos are already 2D but in life drawing you have to do a translation of 3D into 2D. You see it differently. You really should try some life drawing to understand this. Before I had my first life drawing session, I didn't understand it either.
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>>2455951
How does the tail attach? It looks like it would fall off if you pulled it slightly. Draw a side view so you can make the tail attach better.
>>2456789
I didnt realize i was browsing /mu/
>>2456789
Loomis
>>2456441
you're not practising perspective, just drawing random 3d cubes and a horizon line drawn in the canvas
Can someone give me some tips on how to draw lighter? I tend to put more pressure on the pen when I try to emphasize on something and sometimes it ruins the paper.
>>2456910
And here's the reference.
>>2456910
Get thicker paper
>>2456910
Draw lighter by default, then you normal pressure now becomes your emphasis
I have the hardes fucking time with 3/4 view of the face. I can never correctly put in the eye that is further away. Any tips/tutorials?
>>2456940
That Etching Rates Above Dem All.
Why are you still in the beginner thread?
>>2456946
u stupid or what?
>>2456946
uhhhhhh thats not mine....
Just started last week and still trying to figure out the female anatomy, could someone give me some red lines? I am trying to get her arms behind her back holding her hands and can't seem to get the breast right. Would greatly appreciate it.
>>2456968
The arm and body are disproportionately long compared to the head, the head is too large, and the breast is saggy and deflated.
Watch some anatomy tutorials and try some basic poses for exercise. Just keep drawing and don't get discouraged.
>>2456971
How exactly is the body too long, isn't it about two heads?
>>2456968
>animu
>anatomy
>>2456968
Redlines will not help you anymore than someone sowing you a brand new drawing at this stage.
I need you to find that 'how to draw anime'
book you have and toss that shit into a heap of burning tires. Trust me, doing the anime thing first actually makes you worse off than knowing fucking nothing.
First, I want to you find some resources that break down the body into understandable shapes. I would suggest watching some proko on youtube or checking out loomis if you're more of a reader.
>learning anatomy
