When did you grow out of drawing anime?
I've notice the more I get good the less anime I draw. Most anime is bad anatomy, bad perspective. The better a person gets the more flaws people can see in anime.
That is why fine artist don't draw anime.
>>2448450
Good work you're learning to draw from life now here comes the hard part you ready? Here we go, now apply everything you've learned onto this form of style and deviate away from life while still holding onto fundamentals to essentially "break the rules"
Come back and tell me if you still feel like you've improved after that.
Never, now I can just draw it better and not try to make it ugly with obvious Western influences to be "unique" like I did when I was in my weeaboo denial phase
That bottom girl looks like a disgruntled frog even if it's more "realistic" and the top doesn't have eyelids so of course it's hideous
>>2448450
The only time I drew anime was when I was in 4th grade and doodling DBZ ripoffs. So around age 10 I guess?
>>2448450
If anime is bad then why do you anons fap to it so much?
>>2448488
because autism
>>2448450
fools
there's nothing wrong with falling for an fictional character. if you're a weeb, do yourself a favor and embrace your love for anime waifus
>>2448450
Depends on what you define as anime
>>2448499
Yessssss good goy embrace your waifus don't forget when you buy all related merchandise it is like sending a love letter to her you wouldn't want to disappoint her by not buying that 200 dollar figma figure would you?
>>2448450
I'm jelly
it's been years and I'm still a weeaboofaggot
whenever I draw realism from imagination, it looks more western and a bit simplified
I'm trying to move to better art so I can get better
hell I even hate anime and every 'story' it has but my excuse is that the porn is good
>>2448499
are you still here lefty?
how is your art progressing?
>>2448450
>Most anime is bad anatomy, bad perspective.
That argument is fucking dumb. Most realism is also bad anatomy and bad perspective. Good artists are always the minority, regardless the style or medium they work in. There are thousands of terrible wannabe realist artists for every good one.
>The better a person gets the more flaws people can see in anime.
No, you're just going through the first stage of Dunning Kruger syndrome. That's when you just started studying anatomy and you now feel a false sense of superiority for everything that isn't realism. Once you get good, this will go away and you start appreciating good art regardless of the style.
>>2448506
figma costs 200 doles wtf
in malaysia theyre like 30 bux ppop
![[Abesu] Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei - 12 (720p).mkv_snapshot_00.20_[2016.03.18_18.35.01].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/d5lsb4T.jpg "[Abesu] Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei - 12 (720p).mkv_snapshot_00.20_[2016.03.18_18.35.01].jpg")
>>2448517
>That argument is fucking dumb.
I have watched Twillight and the movies are shit.
Everyone who watches live action movies is a retatrded manchild, live action is shit.
That would an argumant of same intelligence level
>>2448521
This particular fugure would cost 330$ on amazon.
while it's actual cost is 100$.
Some people sell stuff to bakagaijin for ridiculous prices.
Balls, i've even seen a vapeshop in russia that was using consumer's ignorance to try and sell 20$ shit outdated devices to people as if they were super luxurious 1000$ hi-tech shit. And i'm certain they do fing retards who would believe that expensive means good and would actually pay them
squid i think cabin boy killed himself
i havent seen him post ever since last year
or maybe hes too poor to afford internet
>>2448506
200 bucks ain't shit compared to what you'll spend if you ever get married
>>2448544
>if you ever get married
i feel like someone on /ic/ just got married because there has been a lot of marriage talk floating around here lately
>>2448513
i'm not around because i hate my new job. i haven't drawn anything since jan 4th. my love for waifus is the only thing keeping me alive.
sage.
>>2448548
Don't ever get married.
>>2448584
you realize that announcing you've reported a thread is against the rules too, right?
>>2448531
Because profit isn't something that you're supposed to aim for, amiright?
>>2448623
Have you already paid your hospital loan, capitalist pig?
>>2448450
I have read one manga (Battle Angel Alita) and watched one anime (Ranma 1/2) over the course of my entire short life
so I dont feel a need to distance myself from anime
as I do find it rather amusing that I can draw it far better than the vast majority of devout anime fans
its not like its the only thing I draw either
>>2448450
>Implying I'll ever grow out of anime
>>2448450
lol anime is way cuter than the second ugly pic here
that's a dilemma
>>2448450
Sounds more like you're looking for something to put beneath you and anime is an easy target. "oh, anime? No I don't draw anime. I am a good artist, I'm above that". This sort of elitism won't make you good.
I like how some people shit on westerners for trying an 'anime' style but when a japanese/chinese/korean person does it they immediately kneel down and suck their dicks. i guess it can't be helped though since there aren't many westerners that do it convincingly well and not look like shitty imitations
>>2448671
>meme neck and second set of eyebrows
no thank you
>>2449112
I don't see why "westerners" in particular wouldn't be able to draw anime. It's not a matter of nationality, is it?
>>2449131
>meme neck
The badly placed shadow is a meme or is it something else about it?
>>2449143
It's a lack of respect and immersion. I only grew up with anime, so even as a shitty artist, my stuff looks borderline decent versus a lot of weeb shit. But most weebs embraced it because it's trendy, so they don't really respect it as much and only draw chibi or moe shit, most likely because it seems like the easy route to go. Japs, Chinks and Gooks on the other hand, just see it as another style that's just as difficult as others (all things being equal) and that respect causes them to put a little more effort into it.
>>2449152
I can see what you mean, I also grew with it and it feels like I'm more involved with it, like it's a part of me (kill me), unlike other guys who like it more as a trend.
But well I don't think people like things just for show, do they?
Well it matters not
>>2449143
the general response seems to be that professionals, i.e. people can actually draw, don't want anime on their portfolios. that leaves what are essentially symbol drawings by middle school weebs the most visible.
anyone know woof's ethnicity? he has a nice style
>>2449156
Trust me, it happens a lot.
Just look at hipsters.
Or any person in my high school...
>>2449143
Probably a matter of motivation. There aren't any jobs in the west that demands that asian style so the western artists that are actually worth a damn don't pursue it, instead they do that semi realistic foundation-heavy academic/film/sci-fi/fantasy thing that western media demands because that's where the money is and probably the safest means to make a living. Probably also the reason why the few that do that asian style seriously are trying to learn Japanese and are sucking Japanese dicks super hard in social media in hopes of getting popular with them and get more Japanese gigs (..that pay half of what Wizards of the Coast typically pays in a similar project..). You probably know a few of these artists.
picture relevant, by an actual currently working japanese animator and illustrator. probably wouldn't do very well in the west with art directors unless he changes his style completely.
>>2448658
What's happening in this picture?
>>2448524
I'm not the other guy, but that isn't the equivalent of what he was saying at all.
>>2449131
>second set of eyebrows
where do you see that? are you retarded?
>>2448450
mein fellow robot
>>2449131
das epicanthal folds anon
>>2448450
You are just getting your first "i finally create real art" boner, everyone gets it when they start being able to draw portraits and render semi properly,
realism usually seem more impressive than anime because you can regard many mistakes as artistic choices because the realistic human is pretty flexible to account
for error while anime and most simplified styles require precision and when you don't have it it really shows.
*Posting sample because the original scan is larger than 4mb.
>>2450087
That light coming from the calf makes no sense why is there that red line in between the light and shadow why am I getting a sense of chromatic aberration and filter abuse why is her neck snapped is she being possessed by the devil and why are the only things I can appreciate are anything but the thing in the middle where it begs for attention?
>>2450098
top bait
>>2448517
>>2450087
Thank god we have at least a few intelligent people on this board.
This thread is cancerous as fuck. I have no idea why all of you are browsing this board at the moment when reddit would probably fit you much better.
Comments like this one >>2448511 or pretty much the whole thread, what the fuck, how is this possible to be so fucking stupid.
>>2449177
>high school
Get out.
>>2448517
Why
Do
You
Keep
Mentioning
Dunning Kruger
Its literally just you and it's bullshit
It triggers my autism pls stop
>>2450111
What's stopping you from going to reddit and being part of your little circle jerk and passing around ass pats?
>>2450120
You got this the other way around. Normalfags like you have nothing to do on 4chan.
>>2450098
learn subsurface scattering, faggot
>>2448450
Anime is the reason I started drawing and I will never outgrow it. There's nothing inherently wrong with drawing anime styled or inspired drawings as long as you learn good drawing fundamentals.
>>2448450
I never did, but I don't draw moeshit that often anymore. I've developed a slightly more realistic and unique, yet still anime-esque style.
>>2448450
all of my filipino classmates from fine arts - water color program started drawing in anime style. bullshit OP.
>>2449085
this,
sounds like someone wants play with the cool kids
>>2448450
What if your favorite manga is super close to western art?
>>2449193
Source? Google gives me nothing.
>>2448450
I've never drawn anime in my life because I'm not a faggot.
I was never into it to Tbh.
It was always cringy to me. Ever since I first laid eyes on it as young'un.
>>2452302
This. I was raised on disney and don bluth so shit just looked gross. Then puberty hit and animu became cool cuz sooper serial grit.
>>2450541
> implying western art means realism
Retard. Manga art isn't only about moe faces.
>>2448524
>being this retarded
>>2452416
>Wallman
Nice pick, Anon.
>>2449199
Hungary 1956 revolt. Communist guards are executed by other communists
>>2450114
spoken exactly like someone suffering from it
>>2448671
Anime looks like down's syndrome
>>2453714
>Saying it while posting an adorable child.
>>2448450
>I've notice the more I get good
protip: you aren't getting better just because you stop drawing anime
anime or not, you git gud when you git gud.
people like the amateur who drew the op image just trick themselves into thinking that they've overcome a hurdle just by switching styles. in truth they are still on the same level they've always been
>>2448450
Around 16 when I found /ic/ :v Drastically improved after that (not that I'm good, but it's better anyway). I used to get a lot of praise for being great at art/teachers would ask me to design posters and shit. It was all trash hue
>>2448450
>Started to draw in grade 5
>drew anime characters and learned to draw from an anime art book.
>spend all day and night drawing up until grade 9.
>don't progress in any other area of art other then anime art book shit.
>recognize the mistake I made and got so disappointed in my self that I quit art up until now(I am 21 now almost 22.)
>now I am starting from square one and trying to learn to draw properly. At least it made me happy even if I wasn't progressing properly.
>>2450111
>>2454897
So you stopped drawing for 7 years? That's dumb. What's with all of these posts that are like "I then realized anime was gay as fuck and quit for 1000 years" how do you get to that instead of just trying something else like realism or western cartooning or something
I know anime is associated with very painful weeaboos and everything, but what the fuck. You can break up with anime and it's no big deal but to toss out all art out of shame is crazy.
>>2454986
Yeah I recognized that now and I am grateful that I did at all. I guess I wanted to be a comic book artist since i was a small child. ( i have comics I made when I was 3.) I when I saw that all that time drawing anime didn't reap much, fused with watching student that have barely done art doing shit 1000s time better then me made me feel really shitty. I also have a eye hand co-ordination disability and it really hit home at that point too.So got got really upset and dropped drawing.
At this point, I know with practice starting from square one, I can do it. Do you have any tips on what to work on or where to start?So I don't practice bad habits.
>>2454198
the problem with OP image is that it was made by a professional artist (an artist which makes profit through his art) but which got his job, not by skill, but by relations and history
that style is all over the wikihow site. btw, can somebody link me the ... http://www.wikihow.com/Get-Over-an-Anime-Addiction
oh, that's actually pretty good, it isn't that the artist is shitting on anime style, but he just isn't that good at drawing yet, and OP took the pic out of context to create a shitstorm (most likely malaysia )
>>2455000
I can relate bro, I gave up on drawing for school because my father told me there is no way to make a living out of art anymore, and I believed him being young, stupid and listening my parents in almost anything
after I got access to internet, I could see that's not totally true, so I decided to switch after I finish highschool. ofcourse I couldn't enter a college with how much millage I had, so now I am fighting between job and makings studies... and /ic/
I stopped seriously trying to draw anime stuff in late high school, because my mom hated the shit, and so did most of the art magnet I went to...
...but then it fucking turns out that right now, most of my money comes from my weeby boss, even if he's aware that I vastly prefer realism in my spare time and with college assignments.
I was screaming inside over the demand for ridiculously sized cone boobs today.
I worry about the game we're working on being laughed at, but there's a decent market that eats stereotypical anime stuff up, so I guess I can't complain.
I wonder how my boss' attempt at art and sketching would be perceived on /ic/ sometimes, because I'm not one to bite hands that feed me, and I can't seem to be brutally honest.
At least I'm not micromanaged as much as the music and programmer guys.
>>2455026
I learned that, you can make a living doing what you love. After watching Plague of Gripes for a while. (my favorite youtuber ~ <3) It just takes time. So do it, and live a happy life.
>>2455014
are you retarded or just fucking stupid?
>>2455054
Probably both. Retarded and fucking stupid is redundant.
>>2450382
Not the guy, but shouldn't be the sub surface scattering applied to the side of her leg where the shadow makes a softer transition? That's where the light travels through the layers of skin I think.
On the other, more "straight-forward" shadow it just looks wrong. But I don't know
>>2455282
>where the shadow makes a softer transition
it should be both
>>2455000
I'd say just don't succumb to depression (I've stopped drawing for months that eventually add up to a few years at a time cause of it too, it's the worst) and draw everyday no matter what, make it a habit. You can't afford to skip any days since you took a long break. Try your best to work through your disability. You can do it, anon. And don't compare yourself with other artists unless it's for inspiration. That shit will kill you. I get severely ashamed about the level I'm at too, socially, mentally and art wise. But I'm not gonna give up, my crappy little drawings are all I've got.
I can't give you advice on square one cause I've made my entire art style on working through bad habits so I probably still have a ton. And still draw a bunch of kawaii school girls desu, don't want to lead you astray. But depression I know about and you gotta keep that cunt at bay for at least an hour or two everyday so you can practice. Draw stuff around you, like your tv or pc or a pet if you have one. Then try to draw a bigger object. Then try to draw the entire room. Go outside and try to draw a tree. Slowly build up your confidence and visuals.
Godspeed.
>>2450114
you have dunning kruger m8
>>2455341
Ty for the advice!
>>2449193
I think with a lot of Asian countries drawing in an anime style is really a passion project rather than to make a decent living.
It's partially the reason why prints/doujins in comic festivals in Asia cost way less than cons in the west.
>>2454897
Same. I drew as a kid and then had a break of 10 years. I picked it up again a year ago, with 22. I don't feel like I missed anything. (I'm actually glad I skipped the cringey teen years)
>>2454986
western cartooning is shit compared to anime
>>2448450
How does one grow out of getting paid
pic unrelated
>>2455753
I unironically like Jazza; he's not the best at anything he does by any means, but calling him a joke is pretty rude tbhfam; working with Flash's shitty brush for 20 years almost exclusively would fuck anybody's shit up.
Post your work Luke Taylor
>>2455780
Why would I post my work? I was over that once here before. I work in the ca industry. why would I waste any of my pieces, sketches even to back up anything I write on ic? I cannot post anything I have on my artstation, no professional would want this kind of exposure. Especially when we talk Jazza- a topic hardly worth any discussion. Also why would I care what's the reason Jazza is shitty artist? You can argue his comic style can appeal to certain crowd (I don't like stylised stuff to begin with), but his fundamentals are simply not there. You cannot bend rules if you don't know them in the first place. JAZZA IS SHIT AND CRINGE, I AGREE WITH THAT FB GUY.
>>2454900
what is this a picture for ants?
Sure got alota time to write 'you will never make it' over n over, Profesional artist.
>>2449173
he has convention pictures, he's an asian dude. probably japanese american seeing how he only speaks japanese or english and lives somewhere in america.
>>2448511
Go back to tumblr you newfag piece of shit.
>>2448450
serious answer?
art school. I saw how badly other people drew anime, and then my drawing was coming up next for critique with mangaish garbage going on. I clenched my teeth embarrassed. And I immediately started to try and distance myself from it.
One saving grace was seeing an artist show their sketchbook, drawing from life. So I did that and it helped a lot. More recently I love anime again so I don't give two fucks. I'd love to draw something nice in a manga or anime influence.
Anime is only a problem when you learn to draw *from* anime.
Anime style is an abstraction of life, so if you're learning from it you're not going to get all the concepts you need to know. There's way too many weebs who try to replicate dragonballz pictures or whatever without knowing what half the things they're trying to draw actually are.
If you actually do want to draw it then the only correct way is to learn to draw properly and THEN learn to draw anime.
>>2456344
99% of professional artists working on anime and manga projects learned to draw anime and manga by copying the pictures they liked before ever studying fundamentals if they even consciously studied fundamentals
>>2456573
And that's why anime's inbred as fuck. Look at the difference it makes if manga artists actually study their fundamentals thoroughly like Araki Hirohiko.
>>2448531
I will never understand why someone would sexualize Rei, she symbolizes a broken person and loneliness, not sexual nature, why the fuck do things like this exist.
