How do you get paid for a commission without revealing your real name to the client?
>inb4 noob, inb4 shitcoin
>>2443372
I know but will not say you. Lurk moar
Make a Paypal business account.
>>2443376
What a shit reason.
From your personal account you can just an invoice.
There should be an 'Send invoice' button somewhere, that takes you to a new page where there is also a 'Settings' tab.
In that tab you can put down the information you want to send with the invoice and remove your real name from it.
Just make sure you don't put anything related to porn or anything and make sure your client doesn't do that either.
That will get your account locked.
>>2443385
This is for a Paypal account, if that was not clear.
>>2443385
>spoonfeeding guy who create new thread just for one question
You don't like fun huh?
>>2443388
If that's your definition of fun, no
Besides, trying to figure this shit out can be pretty frustrating.
>>2443372
Stop caring.
>>2443385
wait, since your paypal account is linked to an email, what if someone found that email and got your real name from the account assocaited with it
>>2443385
your private info is still sent to the client via email. surprised so many pornfags are still around after that was discovered.
Literally what is the problem with your 'real name' being out there? If drawing porn isn't too shameful for you then stick to adoptables or whatever bullshit tartlets are doing nowadays.
>>2445548
i dont wanna get doxxed dipshit
what if some deg commish me a loli futa guro triple lesbian trump sex with a nazi sieg heil dragon furry undertale tumblr skelton anal douching RWBY beastilaity and attribute me as the artist
>>2445665
that's your own fault you degenerate
You can literally dox kyle if you commission him
>>2443372
>>2443385
God bless whoever made this.
Hi Malaysia. I know this is you because you were talking about keeping your anonymity through commissions via patreon on /pol/.
It doesn't really matter. It's not like you're going to get commissions for anything more than scraps.
If anyone was so inclined, they can file a complaint with paypal, possibly get your information, and terminate your account.
If a commissioner really wanted to find your information on paypal, they could. They'd be putting themselves in danger with paypal's security measures but I'm sure people on /pol/ and the SJWS on tumblr hate you enough to do something that stupid.
Just stay away from paypal or start a new pseudonym and cut all ties with your faggot online persona. Change your style, too.
I doubt you can do that though because it's incredibly easy to spot when you're posting. I have doubts you will be able to contain your faggotry, even for shekels.
Maybe you could do it via gift cards that work with a code?
>>2445727
Just use bitcoin.
Expect most normies not to have it, though.
>>2445717
you do know malaysia got rangebanned right
Why does paypal care if people are making porn commissions?
It's weird to see a business that big moralising over dicks and tits
why not making two paypal accounts? Use one (fake) to get commission money and send it to the second (real) account.
>>2445798
to send money you still need to register a bank account, even on the fake one
>>2445785
Playing it safe with regional pornography laws, and keeping an image.
>>2445762
Shut up Malaysia. You're so terrible at "throwing off the scent".
Maybe if you weren't such a plague no one would want to dox you in the first place.
>>2445717
wouldnt it be better if he just keep pushing this persona? at his art level it's going to be almost impossible for him to compete with millions of freelancers for commissions and patreon money.
>>2445913
he havent got doxxed yet. only his comics were removed from tapastic. But then again, tapastic isnt a political free speech shithole where they allow comics shitting on people of all kinds so he pretty much got that coming. Hats off to him for maintaining underneath the radar for 4 months.
>>2445913
He's not a plague. His haters are.
He's just a puppetmaster.
>>2445965
If you've seen any of his threads on /pol/, he will samefag it to bump limit with hundreds of posts.
Most of the "hate" he gets is just him talking to himself.
He's the most autistic person I have seen on 4chan.
I use Paypal account with name Anus Maximus adress Fuckington city Hitler street.
Just works.
>>2446053
I used it for years and once even contacted support.
But Murrikan, probably no one ever checked, or if they did they don't give a shit i'm still a customer who gives them money, who cares what name i use.
>>2446054
>But Murrikan
NOT murrikan, i dunno if you need an ID or something to get a paypal account and how much is you're being watched.
I just got burned hard by a commissioner. Wasn't happy with the work and filed a dispute on paypal and linked the work and my FA gallery in the dispute description. I asked him to take it down but it's been up for like 16 hours already.
How fucked am I? I never thought this would happen to me. I'm frankly terrified.
>>2446139
Furfags must suffer
>>2443372
It depends on your country, but you might be able to register as a one-man business under your alias. So if your alias is "Penfur" or something you can just register it as "Penfur Art" or "Penfur Studios".
You can then use the company name for most transaction platforms.
Be very though, depending on your country, people can 'ask' for information of the CEO of the company (You).
Look up the taxation laws though, it might either fuck you over by paying more, or lucky and pay less.
Source: Own a non-art startup in yurop.
>>2445913
This
>>2446139
depends on the commissioner, if its someone that the community as a whole knows is hard to please, it means literally shit.
contact them directly and have a meeting. welcome to adult life. you now know the meaning of the word.
meeting.
>>2446139
Keep us updated anon, I'd love to know how big of a deal this really is. Either way it's a scary situation to be in if you depend on paypal for your livelihood.
Speaking of which, is payoneer a viable alternative? What else is there? Bank transfer is not really doable is it?
>>2446003
Why are you talking to yourself, dumbfuck?
>>2446139
How much would a furfag pay to keep his paypal?
Sounds like a good idea
>comission some furry faggot
>what a nice paypal you have, would be a shame if something happened to it
>>2446218
>Anime
>/a/ shitposter
>Thinking you can ruin other peoples income for le meme mob mentality
>Realizing that anyone with no brain damage will just make a new one or change payment platform
>>2446223
>>Thinking you can ruin other peoples income for le meme mob mentality
>>Realizing that anyone with no brain damage will just make a new one or change payment platform
Once paypal nukes one account, your data is besmudged. Any account you make with the same bank info or name will be under heavy scrutiny.
And changing payment platform is no option, nobody uses the alternatives. Literally nobody. It's actually fucked how dependant artists are on paypal.
>>2446243
I don't get why no one has used the stupidest fucking loophole that I do.
They commission me for art and all the sorts on private messages.
When they send payment, it's for "digital art", but the image that they pay for is shitty pixel art like pic related. I send it to them and they have all rights to use it. Mark it off as the 'commodity'.
I do public commisions, which means that I upload it to my page, and mention "For (Commisioner)".
I'm never officially been payed for porn. Some guy tried to take me down but I just flicked it off as a pixel artist.
Even then, people don't mind using other platforms for paying if they really want to actually commission you.
and, btw, I'm also >>2446151
It's easy to 'restart'.
>Register 1-man business
>Register business account at bank
>Register paypal
All fresh and free.
>>2446250
okay thanks for the input. gonna screencap this and save in my 'important as fuck' folder. might just save my life right now.
>>2446254
Elaborating a bit;
If you are a lucky motherfucker like me and has 2 last names, you effectively have 3 names. Example:
>John Jeffson Jameson
>John Jameson
>John Jeffson
You could in theory take it even further and use the abbreviation that looks professional
>John J. Jameson
>John Jeffson J
>J. Jeffson Jameson
>J. J. Jameson
>John J. J.
iirc paypal is mostly automated, so with a new bank account and just a similar name, nothing should happen.
Please note though; it might be different by country, paypal is constantly changing, and banks treat you differently. So research your own specific situation a bit to find your own get-out-of-deepshit-free card
Malaysia I promise you, if you open up a Paypal I will commission you and leak your information.
:^)
>he he look at me everyone! I'm an annoying abrasive manchild who constantly samefags, brags, baits, insults people, and starts drama literally everywhere I go. I've systematically alienated myself in every community I go to, even the ones I rely on for my projected source of income!
>o-oh shit i need money to pay for my rat infested malaysian hovel and supply of coconuts and ass lube
>pls /ic/ how do I not get doxxed? those meanie sjws and LIBRULS are bullying me ;_; im scared because im just a struggling artist (only have been drawing for 1 month btw) trying to get by and sell my amazing art but all of these horrible meanies just wanna tear me down!
>hey guys check out my patreon
>hey guys check out my patreon
>pls support my patreon
>patreon
>>2446324
Stop bullying people!
>>2446333
Maybe malaysia shouldn't have shot himself in the foot.
It's entirely his fault that he can't make money. He's going to plateau at his 50/month since that's his only option.
Redeem yourself. Start a new name and style. Cut out the shitposting. People will forget about you, and maybe you'll get gud enough to live like a king in your squalored nation.
>>2445665
>attribute me as racist
Malaysia you never cease to amaze me with your absolute lack of self awareness
At least you're smart enough to know people hate you.
>>2446746
Read it again dyslexic person
>>2446750
My bad desu
>>2445681
I think this old "how to avoid getting screwed" guide is out of date.
First, requesting payment still gives buyer choice to send incriminating messages when they pay. So gotta warn your buyers to shut up and not leave comments in the PayPal comment field.
Second, I believe requesting money is for moneygiving which doesn't incur fees, and PayPal will eventually throw red flag if you keep doing that. You wanna select "send an invoice" and pay the little fee, instead of "request money" as indicated.
If you draw light fetish material, you can use commission widget on deviantArt, and avoid PayPal entirely (dA can mail your money as a check). However deviantArt takes 20% fee and
Maximum commission amount is $80. Actually it's pretty bad, I wish dA alternative was better.
If we wait another 2-3 years some decentralized bitcoin-using application will knock paypal out of the landscape and we will be able to conduct business without having to put up with any of this bullshit.
cannot possibly happen fast enough desu. funny how i'm already typing desu instead of t-b-h.
>>2446344
Looks like you still havent forgot about him yet sperg boy.
I wonder if it will trigger your autism to ruin /ic/ even further if he got a new pledge.
>>2446344
>everyone that disagrees with me is malaysia
>>2446811
>>>/pol/67869176
>>2446808
>if he got a new pledge.
omg he got 58 dollars!
Literally the most successful artist who ever lived! /ic/ on suicide watch!
>>2446890
>bitches about a literal boogieman
>>2446880
Looks like he was provoked to reply with shitposts.
The first post is literally a salty chinese asking him to be banned.
>>2446880
He was acting in self defense. nothing strange here. Your fucking fault to keep autistic grudges
>>2446880
holy fuck suddenly i 100% understand all the hate that guy gets. what an incredibly annoying retarded imbecile. good job on ruining his patreon or whatever it was /ic/. i defended him because i associated his infantile comics with some poor victim young kid (i never go on /pol/) but you guys were right. this dude is a fucking shit-for-brains lunatic and way into himself.
Cryptocurrencies are your only option to be sure. Bitcoin is good because it's the most popular and people are more likely to have it.
Just be aware that it's not completely anonymous, with new advances in thechonolgy people found a way to uncover identities BUT to uncover your identity the people looking for it would have to go to GREAT lengths to find it. So unless you are a terrorist organization, it's pretty safe. If you are still paranoid, there are cryptocurrencies designed to be fully anonymous like ZeroCoin or CloakCoin.
>>2446995
>>2443372
Bitcoins have local atms even in shitty small countries now and i have seen many normalfag tier people
using them to buy/sell to countries with embargoes, a service that's like paypal and deals in bitcoin is almost sure to come at some point.
But until then you either put your name out there or you pray that your fanbase is technologically literate enough to use bitcoins.
>>2446965
You sound like you've always had a grudge on him.
You see, shithead? you're one of the fucking cancers here. Stop shitposting about him you literal tub of shit.
>>2447030
ouch
who the fuck is malaysia
>>2447032
some poor, innocent guy who just started arting a few weeks ago and jelly shits are sperging all over him because people are supporting him on patreon.
I feel bad for the guy honestly, he just want to draw and these dumbfucks are shitting on him just because hes trying to get good.
smyh famn
>>2443566
they'd only find it if you use stupid shit like facebook and thats your own stupid fault
why would you want to hide your real name anyway? got something to hide????
>>2445785
do you see ebay or amazon selling dildos?
>>2447045
You don't? ebay is chock full of dildos and sex toys, they even got detailed categories.
>>2447045
http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Health-Personal-Care-Dildos/zgbs/hpc/676319011
unless you meant they do??
Holy shit malaysia im not playing your game.
Dude i know what youre doing and im just gonna sit here and watch holy shit dude, that buzzword is going to fuck with lots of people lel.
>>2447043
>why would you want to hide your real name anyway? got something to hide????
Yhea why would you want to hide your name from being found out from spergs from 4chan and tumblr, it's unheard of anything going wrong.
>>2447042
His comic got kicked from patrion didn't it? i got really sad about it, censorship is not ok, it boggles my mind how "artists" are actually happy about it and endorses censorship.
>>2447054
no only tapastic. i wonder what he mustve felt, he never showed his true feelings on things, im really curious what he hides behind those $100 posts.
https://openbazaar.org/
A nice place to sell stuff (including art) for bitcoins without getting jewed in transaction fees and other bullshit by intermediaries.
>>2447058
>I am confused
Jesus Christ looks like it's really him. I take my words back. I understand why people report him
How furfags do it? i remember see guys get paid like $800 in things, and it seems that they have been doing that for a long time
>>2447038
>>>/pol/67869176
top lel
>>2447054
Why would you want to get commissioned on 4chan or tumblr? Commission on 4chan sounds desperate and retarded and commission on tumblr will just be underpaid shit
>>2447061
You'll unlock his secrets.
>>2447136
why would you want to be commissioned at all?
Doing commissions are fucking retarded. almost 7 out of 10 of your customers will bitch about your shit and take weeks to complete.
>>2447136
>Why would you want to get commissioned on 4chan
He's underage. 4chan = friends
>>2447153
You'd want to be commissioned with the right clients and as long as you set the terms right.
>>2447231
youre not a true artist if youre commissioned by somebody. that makes you an illustrator
a true artist draw whatever he has in mind and people pay him as a symbol of appreciation for his creativity
thats why patreon is for true artists
I don't use paypal for commissions that's for fucking sure fuck them.
I only take bank notes, cashieers checks. If you don't have a bank account then I don't want your business. I draw furries, hentai and fucking cars. Not once had an issue with this except people crying about paypal is easier.
Easier to scam me maybe. Fuck you want my shit pay me properly.
>check patreon
>nobody paid for the $100 pledge
thank god. theres so much stupid shit in there, i hope to god nobody actually went ahead and do it.
>>2447269
yeah getting anything over 50$ is way too much to handle isn't it?
Good thing you'll never be overburdened with too much money, you dirty faggot.
>>2447500
i put it as $100 so nobody will see it. Its mostly just random comic pages of me talking honestly to myself.
dont be bothered with that shit though, theres too much personal info.
>>2447509
i'm so happy you only made it possible for yourself to make scraps.
Do you ever regret being the faggot that you are? Would you risk being doxxed for 100 shekels, my man?
Come on. As a rich white man like myself, I'll pay whatever asking price in your stupid chink currency just to see you shit yourself on /pol/ when everyone knows exactly where you dug your cave to sleep in.
:^)
>>2447511
>implying you can afford $100
lel dream on you poor fucking no money nigger lover
>>2447517
You're talking real big for a little shiskin dicklet who can barely amass that amount in 60 fucking days.
How much malaysia? How much do I have to pay you?
>>2447520
just fuck off dumbfuck. That pledge is for hardcore fans who wants to get to know me better and check out my routine works. Its like the $100 google hangouts pledge by Jacques.
you're not a fan and you're fucking unemployed so you're wasting my time so kill yourself.
>>2447529
>that last part
SAVAGE
>>2447241
what the fuck man
get that head out of your ass
I expect if someone is already sending you real money dollars to produce art for them, they won't try to doxx you and wouldn't mind keeping your name private.
>>2447032
A fucking attention-whoring shitposter.
Nobody cares about his art. They dennounced his patreon because it was the easiest way to get rid of his cancer.
Anyone telling you anything about censorship is a retard.
>>2447957
his stuff literally got taken down due to offensive content.
that's censorship. are you retarded, dumbfuck?
>>2446808
>>2446808
lmao
>>2447980
it's a privately owned website and the owner can ban whatever the fuck they want
>>2447980
Oh, yeah. Like if everyone tired of his cancer just dennounced his fucking comic for offensive content cuz it was the easiest way to stop his attention whoring.
I told you, nobody gives a shit about his art.
Can you understand? Are you high on chromosomes, retarded nigger?
>>2448430
yeah they do. otherwise that glorious shit wont get pulled down.
also hes a really nice guy outside of 4chan. he never said anything mean on any of his sites.
you need to get out of your basement, dumbfuck, or you might kill yourself from the sheer jealousy and depression at looking at others making it.
>>2448430
>spouts the n word like some aspie with tourettes
>calling people high on chromosomes
kys
I just have people mail me a physical check the old fashioned way, and I don't start the project until it arrives and doesn't bounce. I don't give a fuck if they know my address. (my name's not on the lease and can't be looked up that way, and I do good enough work that I don't have to worry about someone being so dissatisfied they might call the cops or mail me weird/dangerous bullshit). I tell the commissioner to make up a phony name with the address and USPS doesn't seem to give a fuck as I've never not gotten mail. I even had a few guys write joke names like Dick Hurtz, Phil Uponya, etc. that arrived just fine.
Yea, I can see the downsides if you take smaller commissions and need to make dozens of trips to the bank, or your commissioners are kids that don't have checkbooks, etc.
I don't take commissions for less than 200, and generally anyone willing to drop that much cash for a digital picture will be an adult with a bank account and a full book of checks they've gotten with their account and never used. I also only take commissions from US/Canada residents so I'm not waiting 2+ weeks for a letter.
>>2443388
>You don't like fun huh?
epic, we need more great useless shitposters like you to spice this place up bro!
