What is everyone here opinion of drawing porn of real people like actresses/actors etc? I have a client who would like me to draw an actress for them in a sexual situation. Normally I wouldn't do it but they are offering $120
>>2435913
who is this testicle receptacle
I've drawn a girl the commissioner had a crush on, IIRC she was in one of his classes. I just asked for private commission fee and never posted it.
I don't see a single problem with it. Some people have some kind of moral thing to not draw a real person?
I can fap to that pizza
Do it. $120 is good money for a single image. Nothing unethical or illegal about it, so, as long as you're not physically repulsed by the subject make that money when you can.
>>2435962
My thought exactly, this pizza is one of the sexiest pizza I've ever seen
>>2436097
>$120 is good money
Ha.
You will never make it.
>>2436126
Is it not? Should I increase my commission prices?
>>2436141
Depends; can you do it in 4 hours?
I think it's weird but I'm probably the weird one because I cannot be attracted to people I know. Even with 2D, if I "know" them, for instance watched their anime, I lose attraction. But I don't have a moral problem with it, I just don't understand it, so go ahead guiltlessly OP.
>>2435913
it's a single image, unless your one of those fucktards signing commissioned pieces
>>2436148
Not sure. Sometimes yes sometimes no. Actually mostly no.
Hm...
>>2436097
>>2435947
There is plenty wrong with it. Depicting a character (yes, an actor is a character, especially if it's a well-known actor) in any sort of fashion and selling that for profit without the actor's permission can get you sued.
Obviously, the chances of this happening are near 0% unless the actor personally finds the art and tries to take legal action, but just saying, it's shaky legal ground. Any usage of real people without their permission is just as legally punishable as drawing a trademarketed character for money, committing copyright infringement.
Just saying. Personally, I'd do it, because there's virtually no chance of getting caught, but it CAN fuck you over.
>>2436141
$120 for a single illustration is a bit low for a 1-off personal commission. People here will tell you otherwise, but most of /ic/ thinks that commissions come from some Tumblr fast-food style ordering menu.
You can often get more money just by asking for more money. If you want to make better money, ditch doing personal illustrations and draw for businesses instead. Pricing an illustration has less to do with the time put in, but rather who its for and how it will be used.
Disregarding the content, this single illustration could net you $120 from some guy, or thousands of dollars for the same effort when the client is a business. This is because the big money in illustration comes from the licensing, not the time & effort put in.
I don't see a problem. Shad draws them all the time.
>>2436190
followed this advice and pitched my work to 1000 businesses.
nobody replied. what now?
oh right, back to tumblr fast food illustration. guess that didn't help so much bro, but thanks for trying.
>>2436270
Loads of people make tons of pitches to art directors everyday. Just because it didn't work for you, doesn't mean that it doesn't work for anyone else.
You are likely bad at making connections with businesses, your work isn't catered to the market you're trying to break into, or your work just isn't good.
If you're not willing to work hard for better jobs, then you deserve to be left behind. You know this is true.
>>2436286
i don't think there's any point in trying to push in that direction. there is no work there. maybe once in a decade i can get hired by some company, it's not worth even bothering with. the tumblr fast food work can easily be driven to the point of running a successful patreon and charging 200$-300$ for regular commissions. that's worth pursuing because it's actually achievable. what you are talking about is a complete bullshit pipedream, similar to the idea of doing freelance concept art for game studios. you have a 1 in 500 chance of your work even being looked at, and a 1 in 1000 chance after that, of actually being chosen. you can increase the odds by spamming facebook and sucking dick left and right, but is it really worth the trouble? rather aim for something like incase, building a large fanbase and establishing yourself with a patreon campaign due to having a large following and high level work.
>>2436190
>$120 is low for a single one-off illustration
It sure beats $0. Anything over $75 is reasonable if you can do it quickly enough.
>>2436337
Sounds like shit life
>>2435913
I once drew a really graphic depiction of two efamous bloggers because I got sucked into the online hate campaign against them.
At the time I thought it was funny, but now I'm deeply ashamed. It still gets posted occasionally on 4chan, so it's still out there with my hentai handle on it, which could theoretically be traced to me by someone with a true vendetta. I'm even more ashamed because I've actually come to respect one of the bloggers for how they dealt with the hate directed at them.
>>2435913
Id say it would depend on what medium. Does he want a pencil drawing? Ink? Painting? Oil/acrylic/watercolor? Digital? Any particular style or 1-1 copy? Colored or b&w? How large should it be?
These are the questions you have to ask your client beforeyou take the job, assuming you've got no moral or legal issues. Maybe he's trying to get you in trouble?
>>2436355
It's the failed life of an illustrator, who thinks the world is "too hard:.
>>2435913
Actors accept that some weird shit is going to be made about them when they go into the job; they're public figures and if paps can get away with taking photos of them on the street and publishing them then you can get away with a little drawn porn, as long as they're over 18. I would draw the line at real fucked up fetish shit like underage/bestiality or stuff like that, though; if it's just straight up normal porn then you're fine. If you really need the money then take it; you could probably ask for more because the subject matter is iffy for you and they will likely pay it.
However, it's a line that many artists choose not to cross. I personally don't care about drawing characters with actor's likenesses but if people ask me to draw the actual actor then I squick out; I go to comic con and shit and have had to look straight in the face of actors I've drawn getting fucked in the butt and it's a rude rude feeling. At the very least I can bring out the "I was drawing the character, not you, as a person" defense. Most actors are separated enough from their characters that it doesn't affect them personally, but if it's like, them in some outfit they were jogging in last week, you end up on the same creep level as paparazzi lurking outside their house. At least a movie with a character they play was put out there for everyone to see.
So yeah basically it's where you personally sit morally. Actors can't do much about it unless they prove your content is legally harmful to their safety or their brand, and most won't even bother to act on stuff like that unless it's costing them money, if they ever even see it. If you draw the porn and your customer proceeds to tweet it at the actress multiple times a day then you have a problem. Maybe include in the contract that it's for their private use only.
>>2436362
post pls?
>>2436187
i thought that would fall under fair use, since it's some kind of parody
>>2436387
Celebrity likeness is pretty easy to get away with in art. You can always claim it's coincidence they look like whoever. The true worry is for people who directly use real photos of them or clips from their movie or tv show or something like that to sell a product because that's a tangible and provable use of their actual likeness. Taking inspiration from their likeness and recreating it in another medium falls under fair use most of the time.
>>2435913
You should probably do it OP. I did it once for $100 because I really needed the money. If you need it, do what you have to do. You don't have to publicize it. When I did I just asked the client to keep it offline and I didn't post it either. It doesn't have to be a big thing.
there's many a faggot on /ic/, hesus
>>2436385
TL;DR
>>2436362
post a redeeming drawing with them on the same said site, you can even put a comment below saying how ppl opinions change over time
>>2435913
I felt weird about it but I got over it.
Also,
>cheese pizza
fucking pleb
>>2435913
If you're not gonna do it, some else will. You're not stopping them from getting it done, you're just stopping yourself from getting money. If you're a porn artist you should have no shame either way.
>>2435913
sometimes i draw porn of my facebook friends.
come on
Personally, I think it's tasteless. Not a huge issue if the client keeps it to themselves, but I'd never post it.
As both an artist and someone who's actually had porn drawn of them...it's not flattering. It's very gross, even if the quality is good. Actually, ESPECIALLY if the art is good. That means the person who made it spent time rendering your body. Sick feeling.
Actress as in "public figure"? If so, yeah, fine, can't really get on a high-horse if someone wants to see Ellen Paige fucked by a minotaur or whatever. But if this is a woman the guy knows personally and is just getting this done because he's a creep-ass creep? Pretty creepy, and can potentially forever paint you as creepdude with your art.
>>2436187
Warhol did it without the copyright holder's permission. Like all the time. He didn't really draw that shit either, just made reproductions of other people's photographs and dubbed in color.
