Romanticism
Post em
>>2433387
>>2433388
>>2433391
Define romantic paintings for me, please. I know romanticism as itself but what are romantic paintings?
>>2433431
I'll dump what I have anyways
>>2433433
>>2433436
Tfw your phone thinks the file's "too big"
>>2433439
Fav
>>2433443
That's it
>>2433433
Come on guy, at least post the whole thing.
>>2433501
Don't satyrs always want to have sex with nymphs?
Why is he resisting
>>2433505
It looks like they're trying to make him take a bath.
>>2433501
I didn't know
>>2433590
I see you finally found a use for that art history degree.
>>2433501
That version looks so saturated.
>>2433606
That's equally awful. If you're going to post another version, at least choose a better one.
Maybe people shouldn't care what it looks like on screen, it will never look anywhere near as good as when standing in front of it.
>>2433729
Maybe people should not care about your opinion since your opinion is not improved in person.
>>2433590
Care to explain what it is then?
>>2433711
>>2434088
i feel like anything here can be considered romanticist art, basing this off of what i know of the romanticist ideology
>>2433988
use google you stupid cunt, god I hate self proclaimed "artists" and this board so much
>>2434118
Ok but this is seriously not romanticism, Art Nouveau is a completely thing altogether
lots of different styles and movements ITT. romanticism is a specific thing guys.
>>2433601
lol
>neoclassicism, p.r.b, baroque, lelgreco, russian realism, art nouveau
>itt: fuck definitions, words mean what ever we want them to
'Romanticism (also the Romantic era or the Romantic period) was an artistic, literary, and intellectual movement that originated in Europe toward the end of the 18th century and in most areas was at its peak in the approximate period from 1800 to 1850. Romanticism was characterized by its emphasis on emotion and individualism as well as glorification of all the past and nature, the latter also being celebrated. It was partly a reaction to the Industrial Revolution,[1] the aristocratic social and political norms of the Age of Enlightenment, and the scientific rationalization of nature.[2] It was embodied most strongly in the visual arts, music, and literature, but had a major impact on historiography,[3] education,[4] and the natural sciences.[5] It had a significant and complex effect on politics, and while for much of the Romantic period it was associated with liberalism and radicalism, its long-term effect on the growth of nationalism was perhaps more significant.
The movement emphasized intense emotion as an authentic source of aesthetic experience, placing new emphasis on such emotions as apprehension, horror and terror, and awe—especially that experienced in confronting the new aesthetic categories of the sublimity and beauty of nature. It considered folk art and ancient custom to be noble statuses, but also valued spontaneity, as in the musical impromptu. In contrast to the rational and Classicist ideal models, Romanticism revived medievalism[6] and elements of art and narrative perceived as authentically medieval in an attempt to escape population growth, early urban sprawl, and industrialism...
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Although the movement was rooted in the German Sturm und Drang movement, which preferred intuition and emotion to the rationalism of the Enlightenment, the events and ideologies of the French Revolution were also proximate factors. Romanticism assigned a high value to the achievements of "heroic" individualists and artists, whose examples, it maintained, would raise the quality of society. It also promoted the individual imagination as a critical authority allowed of freedom from classical notions of form in art. There was a strong recourse to historical and natural inevitability, a Zeitgeist, in the representation of its ideas. In the second half of the 19th century, Realism was offered as a polar opposite to Romanticism.[7] The decline of Romanticism during this time was associated with multiple processes, including social and political changes and the spread of nationalism.[8]
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in the realm of ethics, politics, aesthetics it was the authenticity and sincerity of the pursuit of inner goals that mattered; this applied equally to individuals and groups – states, nations, movements. This is most evident in the aesthetics of romanticism, where the notion of eternal models, a Platonic vision of ideal beauty, which the artist seeks to convey, however imperfectly, on canvas or in sound, is replaced by a passionate belief in spiritual freedom, individual creativity. The painter, the poet, the composer do not hold up a mirror to nature, however ideal, but invent; they do not imitate (the doctrine of mimesis), but create not merely the means but the goals that they pursue; these goals represent the self-expression of the artist's own unique, inner vision, to set aside which in response to the demands of some "external" voice – church, state, public opinion, family friends, arbiters of taste – is an act of betrayal of what alone justifies their existence for those who are in any sense creative.[32]'
>>2435131
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanticism
tldr;
neoclassicism/antiquity = empirical aesthetic standards; there is a formula for constructing a perfect image,
predates romanticism
rationalism= rational understanding of the world, science over emotion. aesthetics largely drawn from antiquity.
predates romanticism
academicism= the greeks and the italians were right about everything, draw lots of naked people very accurately; original gitgudfags.
predates romanticism, but ultimately incorporates it
baroque= the greeks and italians were faggots. we're rich, put gold on everything and be as garish as possible
predates romanticism
pre raphaelite brotherhood= raphael was a faggot. gitgud but paint new stuff
angloboos
concurrent to romanticism, but different philosophy & goals.
peredvizhniki= the academy are faggots, paint realistically but paint slavshit with relevance instead of wanking over the old masters
sort of concurrent to romanticism, but effectively quite different
romanticism= response to rationalism & neoclassicism, paint based on imagination and emotion, things can be scary and ugly. also paint napoleon. original norulesfags.
realism= the romanticists are faggots, emotions are gay. paint what you see.
>>2435300
Too many rules, distinctions, and categorizations, bro. Too pedantic. You sound like one of those people who has to define each and every fucking minuscule change in a type of music as it's own sub-sub-genre.
Am I displaying a romantic attitude?
Pretty sure blackmetal is the romantic movement within heavy metal music. And by that I mean 2nd wave early 90s norsecore blackmetal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmlhq5rtFXw
>>2435381
>Too many rules, distinctions, and categorizations
that's because none of these things happened in a vacuum, they are connected by history, ideas built upon or opposed to other ideas.
saying that events & ideas separated by time and geography are distinct is hardly pedantic.
>Pretty sure blackmetal is the romantic movement within heavy metal music.
lets ignore for a moment that what you just said is fucking retarded
'black met·al
noun
noun: black metal
a type of heavy metal music having lyrics that deal with Satan and the supernatural.'
is gy!be blackmetal? they play noisy guitars and make music about the end of the world
how about tom waits? he has a rough voice and sings about dark stuff
merzbow must be blackmetal, he's noisy and has long hair, same with les rallizes denudes
so if you showed up to a metal show and the band started playing this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wZZu93VsNA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U23sy-RGe4c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9mhsW5aWJM
everyone would be thrilled right? those guys who expected corpse paint and screaming are just a bunch of autistic pedants
>>2435424
>Pretty sure blackmetal is the romantic movement within heavy metal music.
>what you just said is fucking retarded
Was it? Blackmetal has a tendency to look to the past through rose-tinted glasses, and a tendency to revere nature. It imitates forces of nature through instrumentation - whirlwind guitars, rolling thunder and cracks of lightning from the drums, attempts to achieve a "cold" overall sound. Tends towards more unusual/complex compositions, eschewing pop verse/chorus format. Promotes individualism. Was in part a reaction against deathmetal and its perceived commercialization, overproduced sterile sound, and overemphasis of technical ability. Was co-opted by nationalistic/fascist folks. Does none of this remind of romanticism?
>other stuff
I'd bet a lot of people who like blackmetal would also like gy!be. But no, none of your links are blackmetal, obviously, because they are not even metal. The difference between them and metal is rather distinct I would say. But when you try to define what gy!be is, or what metal is, or start delving into subgenres, things quickly become nebulous and pedantic. I can't even agree with your google definition of blackmetal. "Hail satan" and the antics of certain musicians are always used to define blackmetal yet completely ignore the aspects of the genre that make it interesting. When it comes to music I would think instrumentation and composition should trump lyrics and musicians' personal lives but apparently many people do not agree.
Maybe my troubles with art periods stem from the same issue - a disinterest in meaning, and in the artists themselves. If I see a depiction of an idealized past, I think oh, that's romantic. I still can not quite understand what the Pre-Raphaelites were all about, and just lump them with romanticism. Same with a lot of symbolist painters.
What about romantic period artists who only painted portraits? How to identify their work as romantic?
>>2434088
I love this, have anymore of his stuff to post?
